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Lynn's avatar

The fact of the matter is this is only the beginning of what is in store for us. Fauci said a few days ago "there is a high probability another variant could emerge that would evade immunity". Thanks Tony for the heads-up and telling us what the plan is. Have we ever heard a reassuring message from this guy that gives us hope of brighter days? The world is crumbling around us in every way, and he continues with his reign of terror. He's obviously frustrated that he couldn't get the shot in every arm yet and the shot hasn't done as much damage as he'd like to see, so he needs to continue until he meets that goal. He probably promised Gates he had the power to do so. What new and improved killing agent does he intend to carpet bomb or inject us with next? The argument of whether the virus has been isolated or not doesn't change the reality we are in and what we really need to focus on to prepare for what's to come.

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I will debate you. What you wrote above is just pseudo-scientific gobbledygook.

1. The paper you linked to from the CDC has ALL the errors that Christine Massey and others have pointed out over and over again. No virus was isolated. It was claimed as isolated without isolation. What is so hard to see about that? Just read the paper.

2. The "isolate" that you linked to which you can buy also was never actually isolated virus, but as your scientist friend admitted above was just nasal swab added to cell culture. Just because I can buy a magic wand doesn't mean it has magic in it. Just because I can buy "virus isolate" doesn't mean it's isolated virus. Again, read the paper linked to on the purchasing website, which explains how it was "isolated." Nothing was ever isolated. Just read the paper.

3. Bacteriophages are not what's under debate. What is debated is that there are other active entities which act like bacteriophages and make you sick. But these have NOT been isolated. So back to square one.

4. Your sequencing section is ridiculous. That is not at all a proper metaphor for what is going on. Arguing by metaphor is silly anyway. BUT...you claim that everyone sequenced the same sequence of sars-cov2. That is riddled with flaws. First they assembled, not sequenced. Second, they have NOT assembled the same sequence. They arrive at slightly different sequences, which is why there are "variants" and why we have millions of such "variants" now being claimed to exist. Here is a better metaphor if we are playing that game. You claim there is a lego castle of 30,000 pieces in a box of legos that has about 15 billion pieces in it. I claim there is not. You cannot find such a lego castle by looking for it directly. When you do, you don't see it. So what you do is break everything in the box into small pieces and then run a computer check of millions of those small pieces until you assemble together on the computer what looks like your idea of the castle. In the original sars-cov2 paper they came up with thousands of different castles, and then CHOSE to go with one theoretical castle that was 85% similar to the theoretical castle of a bat-coronavirus. That is obviously NOT proof that such a castle existed in the box.

Finally, in the your photos of the "virus" there is no proof attached that the photos are of "the virus" and not of cellular debris. It is well accepted in the field of even virology and Electron Microscopy that one cannot tell these apart from a photo.

In conclusion, you have offered nothing new to the discussion. Instead you have rehashed 5 "proofs" of virus existence, of which NONE prove a virus, individually nor collectively.

Virology is the modern day equivalent of eugenics. It is pseudo-scientific story-telling based on unproven assumptions to attempt to justify those assumptions. It does not prove them. Its obvious flaws given the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on it since the 1950's make it clear that it is a worthless and misdirected effort. I tell you one thing - I would not want someone who believes in viruses to be my doctor. Because they would ascribe my illness to the wrong thing. They would think a little demon-virus is making me sick, when obviously something else was. That is the point. Insisting on viruses is distracting the nation and us from looking at what actually make us ill - all the of the attacks on our food, water and air that we need to be healthy.

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