Del Bigtree was right. The CO2 levels in masks worn by kids rises to over 13,000 ppm. This is above the normal 1,000 ppm level, and significantly above the 2,000 acceptable level. The CDC is silent.
Back in early 2021, I personally saw two grassroots demonstration of people with a basic safety in mine background connecting such a CO2 sensor under a mask and showing the physiological insult.
OK, so it doesn't matter what I (or other science) say here, you're gonna mask up anyway - and you think it will help! Warm is one thing, humid and re-breathing your own air is a very different thing.
All I can say is that you're gonna lose some brain function. But hey, it's your life, Moon Diamond.
Love your voice. Love your courage. Love the twist of humour to drive it all home.
Call Harold. The author of the study you cited. Incredible guy, important story. His study was fraudulently retracted, without just cause. Originally published June 21. I reached out to him and eventually interviewed him. Brilliant fella.
Exhaled air into one's mask is known to be 4% CO2, or 40,000 ppm. A substantial portion of it will be re-breathed on the next inhalation, absolutely off-the-scale of being unhealthy! The exhalation level of CO2 is easily verified. e.g. https://byjus.com/biology/composition-gases-breathe/
The amount of inhaled air contains 21% of oxygen and 0.04% of carbon dioxide, while the air we breathe out contains 16.4% of oxygen and 4.4% of carbon dioxide.
I've been telling people (my patients included) for YEARS now that CO2 levels rise (& O2 levels drop) when wearing masks. You just need to understand some simple science for this. It's honestly not hard to 'get' this concept, I don't think, and the premise is this: breathing regular air the regular way ie unencumbered) is NOT the same as breathing air through a mask. Anyone who thinks it is the same would not be very good at 'spot the difference' picture puzzles.
This paper was from 2016. So we had the data already. And now we have MORE data. It's all out there. But it's not being listened to because....no-one really cares...?
No-one cares if themselves or their kids are slowly going brain-dead?
No takers yet? No? No-one from the back? No-one...?
Wow. And people are still planning for Retirement. Funny. Maybe they should instead plan for Nursing Home Retirement...at 33.
Firstly, there are holes at the sides of the face/cheeks and nose in a regular face mask. They're not sealed. So gas can escape/get in. As can all other things floating about in the gas including pollen and those viruses you mention etc.
BUT the reason CO2 levels rise is because people breathe whilst wearing these masks. There's slightly more CO2 in an exhalation than there is in an inhalation. Over time, that CO2 rises and hovers in the mask. Sure, some will escape, but plenty stays because it can't all escape at once behind the mask. It gets warm, wet, and the make-up of the air becomes slightly changed.
To put it another way, imagine you are hiding under your blanket in bed. Over time, it gets hot and warm under the blanket. You feel like you're running out of air. There is still air, but the air is not free-flowing. And to top it off, because you're respirating, you've changed the chemical structure of the air so it's not the same air as when you first hid under the blanket! Anyway, it's precisely this lack of free-flowing air that leads to problems. There is a reason why respirators have exit valves.
Not sure how else you want me to explain it to you. It's not that things can't get in/out of a mask - they absolutely can and they do. All sorts of microscopic stuff gets breathed in. BUT when air hovers whilst we breathe (we slowly take the O2 out of air whilst we put back a bit of CO2 as we respire) then we're actually changing the chemical composition of the air.
Also, the air is not going to just escape like that, bang! when it doesn't have free reign of the environment. Gases need LOADS of space to do their 'thing'. When air is tethered, it takes TIME to normalise. And air is not exactly free-flowing when one puts layers of fabric right in front of one's mouth/nose.
Masks don't stop bacteria, pollen and all those microscopic things (hell, sometimes flying bugs make it under people's masks!), but they DO change the chemical composition of the air in that small space between your nose/lips and the mask - because you are BREATHING. If you put a mask on a mannequin, the air quality probably isn't going to change - because it's a static environment. We're a living environment. Everything changes!
And don't forget that masks can and do get moist with a person's humid exhalation, and that can also change a lot of things (like molecules clinging to things, more chemical reactions etc).
You are a pseudoscientific charlatan. N95 masks should be fit tested to reduce air leaks from the sides. CO2 levels inside the mask do not increase because the diameter of CO2 is 0.33 nanometers, far smaller than 0.3 micrometer pores in N95 masks. Masks do stop most bacteria and viruses in 5 micrometer respiratory droplets. Brownian motion results in electrostatic forces of network of fibers trapping respiratory droplets and nuclei.
I made an experiment at home. I measured my blood-oxigen levels with a Pulse Oximetry sensor. It showed 93%. I then put on a N95 mask and worked out on my ellyptical for 30 minutes. Then I immediately measured again, and it showed 95%. It actually went UP! Your claim that masks cause you to raise CO2 levels in your body is bullshit. And it makes sense, becasue gas molecules are so tiny that they have no problem going through a mask. However, I accept the fact that it traps more HEAT, and therefore it makes you feel more stuffy. But that has NOTHING to do with supposedly breathing in more CO2!
Yes I think wearing a mask just causes you to breathe more to compensate, perhaps to the point where you get hyperventilation syndrome if you take it off.
Trapping heat should help to prevent viruses for the same reason that you’re more likely to get a cold in the winter.
Well then it sounds like it can slow down viruses even if not completely stop them. At least if you’re the one breathing them out.
Also it keeps your face warm. If you can keep your nose warm enough it will reduce the replication rate of Omicron. I’ve been wearing masks all winter even outdoors mostly just to keep my face warm. Would it be better to just wear a scarf over my face?
Also see a study saying that the mask increases humidity by trapping your breath and increases humidity reduces flu severity or whatever. But masks make your breath drier at first and by the time it collects enough spit to get humid you need to change it.
OK, we're not on the same page here. I NEVER wear masks. They just don't work. A good immune system is your best bet, helped along by a great diet, plenty of Vit C & D, sunshine, exercise etc etc. Masks won't save you from anything. Except maybe a flying bit of tooth hitting you hard at the dentist's!
Warm and humid air IS nice for the body, but we also naturally humidify air with our conchae in the tops of our noses, before it reaches our lungs. Breathing cooler or drier air shouldn't pose a huge problem, but air that's 10 degrees below zero or ridiculously low humidity sound like silly places to live to me. But each to their own. But covering your face to breathe isn't helping, though, because you're affecting your airflow - in AND out.
And you know those gaps at the side, top, everywhere in masks? They let all sorts of bugs in and out. And if you're susceptible to getting sick from something because your immune system is down, you're gonna get sick whether it's 50 bugs that get to you or 500000 bugs that get to you.
Also, the problem with humidity is that you've got all that flora at the back of your throat. When it's super humid inside a mask, it's a great breeding ground for golden staph and all the other goodies that live at the back of our throat (and they DO live there, trust me). Humidity inside a mask will make you sicker, not better. Hence the need to change them regularly (which most people do not do). And then you've STILL got increased carbon dioxide levels in there as well since the air flow is not happening, regardless of the 'humidity' factor inside the mask. The mask isn't 'slowing down' viruses at all. It's slowing down your breathing capabilities, though, and your brain function!
Anyway, I just read your blurb about yourself, Moon Diamond, and it seems you could be here just to take the piss out of everyone, so I'm going to end this conversation now.
The reason why colds are more common in the winter is because the cold reduces the population of immune cells in the throat and nose, and increases the rate at which viruses replicate. So anything that keeps your face warm WILL reduce the rate of disease and transmission even if only by a tiny amount. But that is to say that cloth masks that don't obstruct your breathing that bad would be good enough. If it's that leaky out the sides then getting enough oxygen shouldn't be an issue. I imagine the amount by which it reduces viruses is at least proportional to the amount it reduces oxygen. You can't really argue that it keeps tiny oxygen molecules out and at the same time argue that it lets hulking virus particles in.
I actually find that the mask dries my mouth out which is just as bad. You have to wear it for a really long time and get it really soaked in spit for it to make it more humid in there.
I'm of an anxious disposition so I have a tendency to breathe excessively sometimes to the point of getting hyperventilation syndrome. So even if the mask reduces my oxygen and increases my carbon dioxide it's if anything to my benefit. In either case I really don't wear it that much because I don't leave the house much. I just don't think it's sanitary to breathe the same air as vaccinated people and I taste COVID every time I come home from a place where everybody is boosted to the gills. I wish I could force them all to mask up and to stop shedding spikes and live viruses on everyone.
"force to breathe same air as vaccinated people" ?? "shedding spike" ??? "Taste Covid"?? Holy moly you lost me.... This is right up there with the same people claiming that masks trap CO2.
We love Carlos and want him safe. Please Carlos double or triple mask and keep being injected with mrna. Social distance and please self-isolate and do not interact with other humans its very dangerous.
Ha ha ha ha! That's hilarious - if it weren't so sad.
That sort of stuff is not new for Chiropractors. They used to be imprisoned in the early 1900s for 'practicing medicine without a license'! Shame the negativity is still going on after all these years. Everyone has a skill they can bring to the table.
I suppose these professions are still trying to be discredited here in Oz, but usually it's more from say, the 'Skeptics Society'...and there is PLENTY of anecdotal evidence where GPs tell their patients NOT to see a Chiropractor. But if medicos are actively saying other registered health practitioners are wayward/dangerous, they can be hauled before a tribunal. But hey, I'm sure I've said similar of the medicos, too, when appropriate, and I've not been hauled before a tribunal. So that part of our regulation is not exactly being policed. And of course this didn't stop the govt from stopping Naturopathy or Homeopathy from being able to be claimed on your private health fund, regardless of the swathe of input from the public etc supporting the professions!
About the only time you'll find a medical doc sending patients for Chiropractic care is when the patient specifically ASKS for it, and also because the docs get PAID quite well by Medicare for filling in an "Enhanced Primary Care" form. The patient sees the primary/allied health practitioner up to 5 times for a 'chronic' condition, Medicare pays for 85% of it, and the doc gets a nice paycheck for filling out a very simple form. The treating health practitioner of course invariably gets paid LESS than their normal rates for those 5 treatments, but hey, welcome to the world where inequality rules!
I'm pretty used to people not listening to me. As my sister so unlovingly once said to me, "The annoying thing about you, Robyn, is that you're usually right!", it still doesn't mean people listen to me, even if they're paying me for my care/opinion!! :-D
Australia may be different. I worked with a work comp doctor in Colorado, and we had a chiropractor on site. We would send most of our back and neck patients to him. He would do high velocity manipulation on the lumbar spine but only use an activator on the c-spine. His outcomes were good. Colorado work comp allowed 30 chiropractic visits. The state never refused my requests.
I saw a lot of asbestos removal workers that needed masks. After a year or 2 they all had abnormal pulmonary function tests even though they did not smoke There are situations where masks are needed but covid is not not one.
Agreed, masks CAN be useful - when there is particulate matter about, and so long as the type of mask is appropriate for the task at hand. But no, masks are not helpful when it comes to covid or things like that! And if you have to do a job where you NEED a mask - or there will be dire consequences - invariably there are also going to be other (negative) repercussions from wearing them! I think the takeaway here is 'get a different job if you can', right?!
Pascal Najadi, the Swiss Investment banker who filed a criminal complaint against Pfizer, against the Swiss President and Minister of Health, has submitted a new case in the USA that has been accepted by the Supreme Court in NY against Pfizer Inc. The case is based on Pfizer’s violation of US law for selling products for profit into the Swiss market in a way that violates the Swiss National Constitution. In his dedication to justice, Pascal Najadi who was injured by the Pfizer shot, has filed the lawsuit against Pfizer in the United States in a private case. Pfizer now faces litigation on multiple fronts in multiple countries. So far no MSM outlet has reported on this bombshell. Help us get the word out! https://m.youtube.com/live/H_PJkBV4GiU?feature=share#dialog
Cochrane Review of RCTs had limitations, including low adherence to protocol in mask wearing. RCTs for influenza occurred during non-pandemic eras. Non-RCTs appropriate for face masks were excluded.
Repeating other posters but adults have free will do do stupid things as long as they do not hurt others. Masking children is child abuse. Children are not at risk for covid. Masks lower IQ, cause depression and anxiety and cause severe language developmental delays. We already have a huge amount of children that were placed on ADD meds for bogus reasons- that as they transition to adulthood have severe problems. This masking thing will end up being worse. Shame on you parents that mask your kids.
My pediatrician and you are not one carlos says the odds a child dies of covid is the same is being struck by lighting 2 times on the same day. You are a a joke.
Deal lord in heaven. Wayne tolerates you because free speech is part the substack policy but everything you have posted as it relates to covid or masks is pure lies and propaganda. You do have an agenda and it is blatantly obvious.
The good thing is nobody on these forums believes anything you say.
After reading some of your comments all I can do is pray to God that you are not a parent. I also pray that you wear a mask and take as many mrna shots that you can.
No they died of the covid treatment protocols not covid itself. But you are always predacatable and have an obvious agenda. That is why smart people here consider you a joke. There is an ongoing debate as to whether you are paid troll or AI bot. Change your username to "masks work and mrna shots are safe and effective."
Wrong, people died from complications from COVID-19 infection. Ventilators saved lives in severe COVID-19 cases requiring oxygen, since benefits outweighed risks. Remdesivir did not kill COVID-19 patients because kidney failure is caused by COVID-19 itself.
He has a following but most laugh at him. Some think it is a paid troll some think its an AI bot. The main thing its agenda is very consistent. Worship masks and take mrna shots.
Nothing ever empowered fugly women like Covid. They got to force the productive men to stay home. They got to close all the restaurants they were never invited to. They got to cover all the prettier faces. They got to cover their own pathetic mug. They got to torture all the children for years. They got to close all the gyms they never go to. They got to keep their favorite fast food drive thru open. They got to act like a State Trooper and Surgeon barking orders about one way grocery lines. Don't take this away from fugly women!
Kirk when our communist governor shut down the gyms I lost it. I had an alcohol abuse problem and lifting weights and going to the gym with friends helped keep me sober. In any case you are correct about the female covid mask nazis.
There was an industrial hygienist, and another woman whose title I can’t recall, calling out this fraud early on. I can’t remember her name but I feel like she was out of the Dakotas. Maybe I saw her with FLCCC group. Can anyone recollect this also?
My CO2 blood level was elevated having to wear a mask at work. When I was a nurse for 39 years and had to wear a mask during different jobs I partook in. Never had elevated CO2 levels until required at my Disney job because I am unjabbed. Now, I have not been required to wear a mask any longer, my blood levels are normal again!
VERY TRUE AND VERY SAD.THE MAIN PROMOTERS OF IT WITH THE REGULATION MUST HAVE KNOWEN ABOUT IT. DEATH WAS THE AIM OR ILLHEALTH?. COMBINED WITH THE JAB?. THE MASKS GOT WET WITH THOSE WHO BREATHOUT MOISTURE LIKE I COULD.THE LUNGS SUFFERD AND SERIOUS LUNG INFECTIONS COULD OCCUR EVEN PNMONIA. SOME HAD EYE PROBLEMS AS CLOSE TO THE EYES ALSO EXHAUST WHENT UP INTO THEM. SPEAKING THROUGH THEM ALSO CAUSED A PROBLEM AS LIKE BEING GAGGED. THE MASKS DID FAR MORE HARM AND DID NOTHING TO STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
Not that I needed proof,
Back in early 2021, I personally saw two grassroots demonstration of people with a basic safety in mine background connecting such a CO2 sensor under a mask and showing the physiological insult.
OK, so it doesn't matter what I (or other science) say here, you're gonna mask up anyway - and you think it will help! Warm is one thing, humid and re-breathing your own air is a very different thing.
All I can say is that you're gonna lose some brain function. But hey, it's your life, Moon Diamond.
Thanks Steve. Not the first time that proof positive has shown that masks are dangerous.
Steve.
Love your voice. Love your courage. Love the twist of humour to drive it all home.
Call Harold. The author of the study you cited. Incredible guy, important story. His study was fraudulently retracted, without just cause. Originally published June 21. I reached out to him and eventually interviewed him. Brilliant fella.
Truth and Love win in the end (MG).
NZ media is loving you at the moment Steve.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/lifestyle/travel/tech-millionaire-slammed-for-creepy-offer-to-woman-on-delta-airlines-flight
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Exhaled air into one's mask is known to be 4% CO2, or 40,000 ppm. A substantial portion of it will be re-breathed on the next inhalation, absolutely off-the-scale of being unhealthy! The exhalation level of CO2 is easily verified. e.g. https://byjus.com/biology/composition-gases-breathe/
The amount of inhaled air contains 21% of oxygen and 0.04% of carbon dioxide, while the air we breathe out contains 16.4% of oxygen and 4.4% of carbon dioxide.
I've been telling people (my patients included) for YEARS now that CO2 levels rise (& O2 levels drop) when wearing masks. You just need to understand some simple science for this. It's honestly not hard to 'get' this concept, I don't think, and the premise is this: breathing regular air the regular way ie unencumbered) is NOT the same as breathing air through a mask. Anyone who thinks it is the same would not be very good at 'spot the difference' picture puzzles.
I've even posted links of tests/studies done on workplace CO2 level checks and resultant (reduced) cognitive function. Here's one FYI again: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/27662232/4892924.pdf?sequence=1
This paper was from 2016. So we had the data already. And now we have MORE data. It's all out there. But it's not being listened to because....no-one really cares...?
No-one cares if themselves or their kids are slowly going brain-dead?
No takers yet? No? No-one from the back? No-one...?
Wow. And people are still planning for Retirement. Funny. Maybe they should instead plan for Nursing Home Retirement...at 33.
How does a mask trap tiny CO2 molecules and block out tiny O2 molecules if it can’t even do that with viruses?
Firstly, there are holes at the sides of the face/cheeks and nose in a regular face mask. They're not sealed. So gas can escape/get in. As can all other things floating about in the gas including pollen and those viruses you mention etc.
BUT the reason CO2 levels rise is because people breathe whilst wearing these masks. There's slightly more CO2 in an exhalation than there is in an inhalation. Over time, that CO2 rises and hovers in the mask. Sure, some will escape, but plenty stays because it can't all escape at once behind the mask. It gets warm, wet, and the make-up of the air becomes slightly changed.
To put it another way, imagine you are hiding under your blanket in bed. Over time, it gets hot and warm under the blanket. You feel like you're running out of air. There is still air, but the air is not free-flowing. And to top it off, because you're respirating, you've changed the chemical structure of the air so it's not the same air as when you first hid under the blanket! Anyway, it's precisely this lack of free-flowing air that leads to problems. There is a reason why respirators have exit valves.
Not sure how else you want me to explain it to you. It's not that things can't get in/out of a mask - they absolutely can and they do. All sorts of microscopic stuff gets breathed in. BUT when air hovers whilst we breathe (we slowly take the O2 out of air whilst we put back a bit of CO2 as we respire) then we're actually changing the chemical composition of the air.
Also, the air is not going to just escape like that, bang! when it doesn't have free reign of the environment. Gases need LOADS of space to do their 'thing'. When air is tethered, it takes TIME to normalise. And air is not exactly free-flowing when one puts layers of fabric right in front of one's mouth/nose.
Masks don't stop bacteria, pollen and all those microscopic things (hell, sometimes flying bugs make it under people's masks!), but they DO change the chemical composition of the air in that small space between your nose/lips and the mask - because you are BREATHING. If you put a mask on a mannequin, the air quality probably isn't going to change - because it's a static environment. We're a living environment. Everything changes!
And don't forget that masks can and do get moist with a person's humid exhalation, and that can also change a lot of things (like molecules clinging to things, more chemical reactions etc).
Does that make it clearer for you? I hope so :-)
You are a pseudoscientific charlatan. N95 masks should be fit tested to reduce air leaks from the sides. CO2 levels inside the mask do not increase because the diameter of CO2 is 0.33 nanometers, far smaller than 0.3 micrometer pores in N95 masks. Masks do stop most bacteria and viruses in 5 micrometer respiratory droplets. Brownian motion results in electrostatic forces of network of fibers trapping respiratory droplets and nuclei.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-13711-2
I made an experiment at home. I measured my blood-oxigen levels with a Pulse Oximetry sensor. It showed 93%. I then put on a N95 mask and worked out on my ellyptical for 30 minutes. Then I immediately measured again, and it showed 95%. It actually went UP! Your claim that masks cause you to raise CO2 levels in your body is bullshit. And it makes sense, becasue gas molecules are so tiny that they have no problem going through a mask. However, I accept the fact that it traps more HEAT, and therefore it makes you feel more stuffy. But that has NOTHING to do with supposedly breathing in more CO2!
Yes I think wearing a mask just causes you to breathe more to compensate, perhaps to the point where you get hyperventilation syndrome if you take it off.
Trapping heat should help to prevent viruses for the same reason that you’re more likely to get a cold in the winter.
Well then it sounds like it can slow down viruses even if not completely stop them. At least if you’re the one breathing them out.
Also it keeps your face warm. If you can keep your nose warm enough it will reduce the replication rate of Omicron. I’ve been wearing masks all winter even outdoors mostly just to keep my face warm. Would it be better to just wear a scarf over my face?
Also see a study saying that the mask increases humidity by trapping your breath and increases humidity reduces flu severity or whatever. But masks make your breath drier at first and by the time it collects enough spit to get humid you need to change it.
OK, we're not on the same page here. I NEVER wear masks. They just don't work. A good immune system is your best bet, helped along by a great diet, plenty of Vit C & D, sunshine, exercise etc etc. Masks won't save you from anything. Except maybe a flying bit of tooth hitting you hard at the dentist's!
Warm and humid air IS nice for the body, but we also naturally humidify air with our conchae in the tops of our noses, before it reaches our lungs. Breathing cooler or drier air shouldn't pose a huge problem, but air that's 10 degrees below zero or ridiculously low humidity sound like silly places to live to me. But each to their own. But covering your face to breathe isn't helping, though, because you're affecting your airflow - in AND out.
And you know those gaps at the side, top, everywhere in masks? They let all sorts of bugs in and out. And if you're susceptible to getting sick from something because your immune system is down, you're gonna get sick whether it's 50 bugs that get to you or 500000 bugs that get to you.
Also, the problem with humidity is that you've got all that flora at the back of your throat. When it's super humid inside a mask, it's a great breeding ground for golden staph and all the other goodies that live at the back of our throat (and they DO live there, trust me). Humidity inside a mask will make you sicker, not better. Hence the need to change them regularly (which most people do not do). And then you've STILL got increased carbon dioxide levels in there as well since the air flow is not happening, regardless of the 'humidity' factor inside the mask. The mask isn't 'slowing down' viruses at all. It's slowing down your breathing capabilities, though, and your brain function!
Anyway, I just read your blurb about yourself, Moon Diamond, and it seems you could be here just to take the piss out of everyone, so I'm going to end this conversation now.
Multivitamins do not necessarily prevent illness. Face masks fo not cause elevated CO2 levels inside the air volume of the wearer.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-masks/fact-check-covid-19-face-masks-do-not-trap-dangerous-levels-of-carbon-dioxide-idUSL1N2T01U3
No I'm serious about this.
The reason why colds are more common in the winter is because the cold reduces the population of immune cells in the throat and nose, and increases the rate at which viruses replicate. So anything that keeps your face warm WILL reduce the rate of disease and transmission even if only by a tiny amount. But that is to say that cloth masks that don't obstruct your breathing that bad would be good enough. If it's that leaky out the sides then getting enough oxygen shouldn't be an issue. I imagine the amount by which it reduces viruses is at least proportional to the amount it reduces oxygen. You can't really argue that it keeps tiny oxygen molecules out and at the same time argue that it lets hulking virus particles in.
I actually find that the mask dries my mouth out which is just as bad. You have to wear it for a really long time and get it really soaked in spit for it to make it more humid in there.
I'm of an anxious disposition so I have a tendency to breathe excessively sometimes to the point of getting hyperventilation syndrome. So even if the mask reduces my oxygen and increases my carbon dioxide it's if anything to my benefit. In either case I really don't wear it that much because I don't leave the house much. I just don't think it's sanitary to breathe the same air as vaccinated people and I taste COVID every time I come home from a place where everybody is boosted to the gills. I wish I could force them all to mask up and to stop shedding spikes and live viruses on everyone.
"force to breathe same air as vaccinated people" ?? "shedding spike" ??? "Taste Covid"?? Holy moly you lost me.... This is right up there with the same people claiming that masks trap CO2.
Taste covid? What's that?
CO2 and O2 levels remain within normal range during face mask usage. The study on workplace CO2 levels was unrelated to face masks
We love Carlos and want him safe. Please Carlos double or triple mask and keep being injected with mrna. Social distance and please self-isolate and do not interact with other humans its very dangerous.
Is funny the moderator of the forum Wayne noticed that you have a habit of clicking the like button on your own posts?
Why is it that industrial hygienists and OSHA certified mask fitters disagree with your statements?
Provide evidence from industrial hygienists and OSHA experts.
N95 masks should be fit tested to be effective, reducing air leaks.
The US has has an active PR campaign to discredit chiropractors, accupuncturists, naturopaths
and other non MD's that question masks and covid injections. I have seen tv and press articles that say your chiropractor etc is dangerous to you.
Ha ha ha ha! That's hilarious - if it weren't so sad.
That sort of stuff is not new for Chiropractors. They used to be imprisoned in the early 1900s for 'practicing medicine without a license'! Shame the negativity is still going on after all these years. Everyone has a skill they can bring to the table.
I suppose these professions are still trying to be discredited here in Oz, but usually it's more from say, the 'Skeptics Society'...and there is PLENTY of anecdotal evidence where GPs tell their patients NOT to see a Chiropractor. But if medicos are actively saying other registered health practitioners are wayward/dangerous, they can be hauled before a tribunal. But hey, I'm sure I've said similar of the medicos, too, when appropriate, and I've not been hauled before a tribunal. So that part of our regulation is not exactly being policed. And of course this didn't stop the govt from stopping Naturopathy or Homeopathy from being able to be claimed on your private health fund, regardless of the swathe of input from the public etc supporting the professions!
About the only time you'll find a medical doc sending patients for Chiropractic care is when the patient specifically ASKS for it, and also because the docs get PAID quite well by Medicare for filling in an "Enhanced Primary Care" form. The patient sees the primary/allied health practitioner up to 5 times for a 'chronic' condition, Medicare pays for 85% of it, and the doc gets a nice paycheck for filling out a very simple form. The treating health practitioner of course invariably gets paid LESS than their normal rates for those 5 treatments, but hey, welcome to the world where inequality rules!
I'm pretty used to people not listening to me. As my sister so unlovingly once said to me, "The annoying thing about you, Robyn, is that you're usually right!", it still doesn't mean people listen to me, even if they're paying me for my care/opinion!! :-D
Australia may be different. I worked with a work comp doctor in Colorado, and we had a chiropractor on site. We would send most of our back and neck patients to him. He would do high velocity manipulation on the lumbar spine but only use an activator on the c-spine. His outcomes were good. Colorado work comp allowed 30 chiropractic visits. The state never refused my requests.
Invasion of the body snatchers 1978.
I saw a lot of asbestos removal workers that needed masks. After a year or 2 they all had abnormal pulmonary function tests even though they did not smoke There are situations where masks are needed but covid is not not one.
Agreed, masks CAN be useful - when there is particulate matter about, and so long as the type of mask is appropriate for the task at hand. But no, masks are not helpful when it comes to covid or things like that! And if you have to do a job where you NEED a mask - or there will be dire consequences - invariably there are also going to be other (negative) repercussions from wearing them! I think the takeaway here is 'get a different job if you can', right?!
A lot of this was common sense
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Cochrane Review of RCTs had limitations, including low adherence to protocol in mask wearing. RCTs for influenza occurred during non-pandemic eras. Non-RCTs appropriate for face masks were excluded.
What's your next user name going to be?
You never go away. But some people like you. They never take you seriously but you are a great source of entertainment.
Repeating other posters but adults have free will do do stupid things as long as they do not hurt others. Masking children is child abuse. Children are not at risk for covid. Masks lower IQ, cause depression and anxiety and cause severe language developmental delays. We already have a huge amount of children that were placed on ADD meds for bogus reasons- that as they transition to adulthood have severe problems. This masking thing will end up being worse. Shame on you parents that mask your kids.
Face masks with clear material around the mouth are commercially available. This allows lip reading for language development.
Children are at lower risk of COVID-19 infection. Over 1500 American children have died from COVID-19.
My pediatrician and you are not one carlos says the odds a child dies of covid is the same is being struck by lighting 2 times on the same day. You are a a joke.
Most board-certified pediatricians recommend childhood vaccines for COVID-19 because the risk of infection and death is low, not zero.
Deal lord in heaven. Wayne tolerates you because free speech is part the substack policy but everything you have posted as it relates to covid or masks is pure lies and propaganda. You do have an agenda and it is blatantly obvious.
The good thing is nobody on these forums believes anything you say.
After reading some of your comments all I can do is pray to God that you are not a parent. I also pray that you wear a mask and take as many mrna shots that you can.
If you are a human try masking my child. You will regret it.
No they died of the covid treatment protocols not covid itself. But you are always predacatable and have an obvious agenda. That is why smart people here consider you a joke. There is an ongoing debate as to whether you are paid troll or AI bot. Change your username to "masks work and mrna shots are safe and effective."
Wrong, people died from complications from COVID-19 infection. Ventilators saved lives in severe COVID-19 cases requiring oxygen, since benefits outweighed risks. Remdesivir did not kill COVID-19 patients because kidney failure is caused by COVID-19 itself.
It's hilarious how Carlos always likes his own post.
He has a following but most laugh at him. Some think it is a paid troll some think its an AI bot. The main thing its agenda is very consistent. Worship masks and take mrna shots.
It's a logical fallacy to suggest that if Cochrane didn't prove mask DON'T work, then it proved they do.
Nothing ever empowered fugly women like Covid. They got to force the productive men to stay home. They got to close all the restaurants they were never invited to. They got to cover all the prettier faces. They got to cover their own pathetic mug. They got to torture all the children for years. They got to close all the gyms they never go to. They got to keep their favorite fast food drive thru open. They got to act like a State Trooper and Surgeon barking orders about one way grocery lines. Don't take this away from fugly women!
Kirk when our communist governor shut down the gyms I lost it. I had an alcohol abuse problem and lifting weights and going to the gym with friends helped keep me sober. In any case you are correct about the female covid mask nazis.
A consult with an Industrial Hygienist would have cleared up ALL this mask misinformation from jump.
The They obscured this knowledge.
Deliberately.
I doctor will not admit is but Industrial Hygienists know way more about masks than doctors.
There was an industrial hygienist, and another woman whose title I can’t recall, calling out this fraud early on. I can’t remember her name but I feel like she was out of the Dakotas. Maybe I saw her with FLCCC group. Can anyone recollect this also?
My CO2 blood level was elevated having to wear a mask at work. When I was a nurse for 39 years and had to wear a mask during different jobs I partook in. Never had elevated CO2 levels until required at my Disney job because I am unjabbed. Now, I have not been required to wear a mask any longer, my blood levels are normal again!
VERY TRUE AND VERY SAD.THE MAIN PROMOTERS OF IT WITH THE REGULATION MUST HAVE KNOWEN ABOUT IT. DEATH WAS THE AIM OR ILLHEALTH?. COMBINED WITH THE JAB?. THE MASKS GOT WET WITH THOSE WHO BREATHOUT MOISTURE LIKE I COULD.THE LUNGS SUFFERD AND SERIOUS LUNG INFECTIONS COULD OCCUR EVEN PNMONIA. SOME HAD EYE PROBLEMS AS CLOSE TO THE EYES ALSO EXHAUST WHENT UP INTO THEM. SPEAKING THROUGH THEM ALSO CAUSED A PROBLEM AS LIKE BEING GAGGED. THE MASKS DID FAR MORE HARM AND DID NOTHING TO STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.