Firstly, there are holes at the sides of the face/cheeks and nose in a regular face mask. They're not sealed. So gas can escape/get in. As can all other things floating about in the gas including pollen and those viruses you mention etc.
BUT the reason CO2 levels rise is because people breathe whilst wearing these masks. There's slightly more CO2 in an exhalation than there is in an inhalation. Over time, that CO2 rises and hovers in the mask. Sure, some will escape, but plenty stays because it can't all escape at once behind the mask. It gets warm, wet, and the make-up of the air becomes slightly changed.
To put it another way, imagine you are hiding under your blanket in bed. Over time, it gets hot and warm under the blanket. You feel like you're running out of air. There is still air, but the air is not free-flowing. And to top it off, because you're respirating, you've changed the chemical structure of the air so it's not the same air as when you first hid under the blanket! Anyway, it's precisely this lack of free-flowing air that leads to problems. There is a reason why respirators have exit valves.
Not sure how else you want me to explain it to you. It's not that things can't get in/out of a mask - they absolutely can and they do. All sorts of microscopic stuff gets breathed in. BUT when air hovers whilst we breathe (we slowly take the O2 out of air whilst we put back a bit of CO2 as we respire) then we're actually changing the chemical composition of the air.
Also, the air is not going to just escape like that, bang! when it doesn't have free reign of the environment. Gases need LOADS of space to do their 'thing'. When air is tethered, it takes TIME to normalise. And air is not exactly free-flowing when one puts layers of fabric right in front of one's mouth/nose.
Masks don't stop bacteria, pollen and all those microscopic things (hell, sometimes flying bugs make it under people's masks!), but they DO change the chemical composition of the air in that small space between your nose/lips and the mask - because you are BREATHING. If you put a mask on a mannequin, the air quality probably isn't going to change - because it's a static environment. We're a living environment. Everything changes!
And don't forget that masks can and do get moist with a person's humid exhalation, and that can also change a lot of things (like molecules clinging to things, more chemical reactions etc).
You are a pseudoscientific charlatan. N95 masks should be fit tested to reduce air leaks from the sides. CO2 levels inside the mask do not increase because the diameter of CO2 is 0.33 nanometers, far smaller than 0.3 micrometer pores in N95 masks. Masks do stop most bacteria and viruses in 5 micrometer respiratory droplets. Brownian motion results in electrostatic forces of network of fibers trapping respiratory droplets and nuclei.
I made an experiment at home. I measured my blood-oxigen levels with a Pulse Oximetry sensor. It showed 93%. I then put on a N95 mask and worked out on my ellyptical for 30 minutes. Then I immediately measured again, and it showed 95%. It actually went UP! Your claim that masks cause you to raise CO2 levels in your body is bullshit. And it makes sense, becasue gas molecules are so tiny that they have no problem going through a mask. However, I accept the fact that it traps more HEAT, and therefore it makes you feel more stuffy. But that has NOTHING to do with supposedly breathing in more CO2!
Yes I think wearing a mask just causes you to breathe more to compensate, perhaps to the point where you get hyperventilation syndrome if you take it off.
Trapping heat should help to prevent viruses for the same reason that you’re more likely to get a cold in the winter.
Well then it sounds like it can slow down viruses even if not completely stop them. At least if you’re the one breathing them out.
Also it keeps your face warm. If you can keep your nose warm enough it will reduce the replication rate of Omicron. I’ve been wearing masks all winter even outdoors mostly just to keep my face warm. Would it be better to just wear a scarf over my face?
Also see a study saying that the mask increases humidity by trapping your breath and increases humidity reduces flu severity or whatever. But masks make your breath drier at first and by the time it collects enough spit to get humid you need to change it.
OK, we're not on the same page here. I NEVER wear masks. They just don't work. A good immune system is your best bet, helped along by a great diet, plenty of Vit C & D, sunshine, exercise etc etc. Masks won't save you from anything. Except maybe a flying bit of tooth hitting you hard at the dentist's!
Warm and humid air IS nice for the body, but we also naturally humidify air with our conchae in the tops of our noses, before it reaches our lungs. Breathing cooler or drier air shouldn't pose a huge problem, but air that's 10 degrees below zero or ridiculously low humidity sound like silly places to live to me. But each to their own. But covering your face to breathe isn't helping, though, because you're affecting your airflow - in AND out.
And you know those gaps at the side, top, everywhere in masks? They let all sorts of bugs in and out. And if you're susceptible to getting sick from something because your immune system is down, you're gonna get sick whether it's 50 bugs that get to you or 500000 bugs that get to you.
Also, the problem with humidity is that you've got all that flora at the back of your throat. When it's super humid inside a mask, it's a great breeding ground for golden staph and all the other goodies that live at the back of our throat (and they DO live there, trust me). Humidity inside a mask will make you sicker, not better. Hence the need to change them regularly (which most people do not do). And then you've STILL got increased carbon dioxide levels in there as well since the air flow is not happening, regardless of the 'humidity' factor inside the mask. The mask isn't 'slowing down' viruses at all. It's slowing down your breathing capabilities, though, and your brain function!
Anyway, I just read your blurb about yourself, Moon Diamond, and it seems you could be here just to take the piss out of everyone, so I'm going to end this conversation now.
The reason why colds are more common in the winter is because the cold reduces the population of immune cells in the throat and nose, and increases the rate at which viruses replicate. So anything that keeps your face warm WILL reduce the rate of disease and transmission even if only by a tiny amount. But that is to say that cloth masks that don't obstruct your breathing that bad would be good enough. If it's that leaky out the sides then getting enough oxygen shouldn't be an issue. I imagine the amount by which it reduces viruses is at least proportional to the amount it reduces oxygen. You can't really argue that it keeps tiny oxygen molecules out and at the same time argue that it lets hulking virus particles in.
I actually find that the mask dries my mouth out which is just as bad. You have to wear it for a really long time and get it really soaked in spit for it to make it more humid in there.
I'm of an anxious disposition so I have a tendency to breathe excessively sometimes to the point of getting hyperventilation syndrome. So even if the mask reduces my oxygen and increases my carbon dioxide it's if anything to my benefit. In either case I really don't wear it that much because I don't leave the house much. I just don't think it's sanitary to breathe the same air as vaccinated people and I taste COVID every time I come home from a place where everybody is boosted to the gills. I wish I could force them all to mask up and to stop shedding spikes and live viruses on everyone.
"force to breathe same air as vaccinated people" ?? "shedding spike" ??? "Taste Covid"?? Holy moly you lost me.... This is right up there with the same people claiming that masks trap CO2.
I don’t know for sure that they shed spike but I do know that they breed the virus. The mRNA injections have a Typhoid Mary like effect. COVID has a flavor unlike any I’ve tasted before and I’ve tasted it twice again with almost no other symptoms after the first time I got it. Sort of like the taste of regular common cold boogers but pukier if that makes any sense.
No man that makes no sense. I have had covid, there is no TASTE to covid. No i didn't lose my sense of smell or taste, i was able to taste regular food just fine. the vaccine does not breed the virus. It instruct your cells to create harmless spike proteins. So that when your immune system sees the real thing, it will already know what to do with it.
What variant did you get? Maybe only Omicron tastes like that.
And the spike proteins in the mRNA injection are not harmless, they still contain the furin cleavage site which enables syncytia to form. And it doesn't even contain an adjuvant (except accidentally, through DNA contamination or whatever) so more likely it will trick your body into becoming immune tolerant to the spike protein. Read this:
The furin cleavage site, it is important to note that the presence of this site is not unique to the mRNA vaccines. It is actually present in the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself. The vaccines have been designed to target this specific protein, which is necessary for the virus to enter human cells. By generating an immune response against the spike protein, the vaccine helps the body to recognize and fight the virus.
For the concern about immune tolerance, it is true that the immune system can sometimes become tolerant to a particular antigen, such as the spike protein. However, this is not a concern with the mRNA vaccines. The vaccines are designed to stimulate a strong immune response, including the production of neutralizing antibodies, which can effectively prevent infection.
Overall, it's important to rely on credible scientific sources and evidence-based information when evaluating the safety and efficacy of vaccines.
How does a mask trap tiny CO2 molecules and block out tiny O2 molecules if it can’t even do that with viruses?
Firstly, there are holes at the sides of the face/cheeks and nose in a regular face mask. They're not sealed. So gas can escape/get in. As can all other things floating about in the gas including pollen and those viruses you mention etc.
BUT the reason CO2 levels rise is because people breathe whilst wearing these masks. There's slightly more CO2 in an exhalation than there is in an inhalation. Over time, that CO2 rises and hovers in the mask. Sure, some will escape, but plenty stays because it can't all escape at once behind the mask. It gets warm, wet, and the make-up of the air becomes slightly changed.
To put it another way, imagine you are hiding under your blanket in bed. Over time, it gets hot and warm under the blanket. You feel like you're running out of air. There is still air, but the air is not free-flowing. And to top it off, because you're respirating, you've changed the chemical structure of the air so it's not the same air as when you first hid under the blanket! Anyway, it's precisely this lack of free-flowing air that leads to problems. There is a reason why respirators have exit valves.
Not sure how else you want me to explain it to you. It's not that things can't get in/out of a mask - they absolutely can and they do. All sorts of microscopic stuff gets breathed in. BUT when air hovers whilst we breathe (we slowly take the O2 out of air whilst we put back a bit of CO2 as we respire) then we're actually changing the chemical composition of the air.
Also, the air is not going to just escape like that, bang! when it doesn't have free reign of the environment. Gases need LOADS of space to do their 'thing'. When air is tethered, it takes TIME to normalise. And air is not exactly free-flowing when one puts layers of fabric right in front of one's mouth/nose.
Masks don't stop bacteria, pollen and all those microscopic things (hell, sometimes flying bugs make it under people's masks!), but they DO change the chemical composition of the air in that small space between your nose/lips and the mask - because you are BREATHING. If you put a mask on a mannequin, the air quality probably isn't going to change - because it's a static environment. We're a living environment. Everything changes!
And don't forget that masks can and do get moist with a person's humid exhalation, and that can also change a lot of things (like molecules clinging to things, more chemical reactions etc).
Does that make it clearer for you? I hope so :-)
You are a pseudoscientific charlatan. N95 masks should be fit tested to reduce air leaks from the sides. CO2 levels inside the mask do not increase because the diameter of CO2 is 0.33 nanometers, far smaller than 0.3 micrometer pores in N95 masks. Masks do stop most bacteria and viruses in 5 micrometer respiratory droplets. Brownian motion results in electrostatic forces of network of fibers trapping respiratory droplets and nuclei.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-13711-2
I made an experiment at home. I measured my blood-oxigen levels with a Pulse Oximetry sensor. It showed 93%. I then put on a N95 mask and worked out on my ellyptical for 30 minutes. Then I immediately measured again, and it showed 95%. It actually went UP! Your claim that masks cause you to raise CO2 levels in your body is bullshit. And it makes sense, becasue gas molecules are so tiny that they have no problem going through a mask. However, I accept the fact that it traps more HEAT, and therefore it makes you feel more stuffy. But that has NOTHING to do with supposedly breathing in more CO2!
Yes I think wearing a mask just causes you to breathe more to compensate, perhaps to the point where you get hyperventilation syndrome if you take it off.
Trapping heat should help to prevent viruses for the same reason that you’re more likely to get a cold in the winter.
Well then it sounds like it can slow down viruses even if not completely stop them. At least if you’re the one breathing them out.
Also it keeps your face warm. If you can keep your nose warm enough it will reduce the replication rate of Omicron. I’ve been wearing masks all winter even outdoors mostly just to keep my face warm. Would it be better to just wear a scarf over my face?
Also see a study saying that the mask increases humidity by trapping your breath and increases humidity reduces flu severity or whatever. But masks make your breath drier at first and by the time it collects enough spit to get humid you need to change it.
OK, we're not on the same page here. I NEVER wear masks. They just don't work. A good immune system is your best bet, helped along by a great diet, plenty of Vit C & D, sunshine, exercise etc etc. Masks won't save you from anything. Except maybe a flying bit of tooth hitting you hard at the dentist's!
Warm and humid air IS nice for the body, but we also naturally humidify air with our conchae in the tops of our noses, before it reaches our lungs. Breathing cooler or drier air shouldn't pose a huge problem, but air that's 10 degrees below zero or ridiculously low humidity sound like silly places to live to me. But each to their own. But covering your face to breathe isn't helping, though, because you're affecting your airflow - in AND out.
And you know those gaps at the side, top, everywhere in masks? They let all sorts of bugs in and out. And if you're susceptible to getting sick from something because your immune system is down, you're gonna get sick whether it's 50 bugs that get to you or 500000 bugs that get to you.
Also, the problem with humidity is that you've got all that flora at the back of your throat. When it's super humid inside a mask, it's a great breeding ground for golden staph and all the other goodies that live at the back of our throat (and they DO live there, trust me). Humidity inside a mask will make you sicker, not better. Hence the need to change them regularly (which most people do not do). And then you've STILL got increased carbon dioxide levels in there as well since the air flow is not happening, regardless of the 'humidity' factor inside the mask. The mask isn't 'slowing down' viruses at all. It's slowing down your breathing capabilities, though, and your brain function!
Anyway, I just read your blurb about yourself, Moon Diamond, and it seems you could be here just to take the piss out of everyone, so I'm going to end this conversation now.
Multivitamins do not necessarily prevent illness. Face masks fo not cause elevated CO2 levels inside the air volume of the wearer.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-masks/fact-check-covid-19-face-masks-do-not-trap-dangerous-levels-of-carbon-dioxide-idUSL1N2T01U3
No I'm serious about this.
The reason why colds are more common in the winter is because the cold reduces the population of immune cells in the throat and nose, and increases the rate at which viruses replicate. So anything that keeps your face warm WILL reduce the rate of disease and transmission even if only by a tiny amount. But that is to say that cloth masks that don't obstruct your breathing that bad would be good enough. If it's that leaky out the sides then getting enough oxygen shouldn't be an issue. I imagine the amount by which it reduces viruses is at least proportional to the amount it reduces oxygen. You can't really argue that it keeps tiny oxygen molecules out and at the same time argue that it lets hulking virus particles in.
I actually find that the mask dries my mouth out which is just as bad. You have to wear it for a really long time and get it really soaked in spit for it to make it more humid in there.
I'm of an anxious disposition so I have a tendency to breathe excessively sometimes to the point of getting hyperventilation syndrome. So even if the mask reduces my oxygen and increases my carbon dioxide it's if anything to my benefit. In either case I really don't wear it that much because I don't leave the house much. I just don't think it's sanitary to breathe the same air as vaccinated people and I taste COVID every time I come home from a place where everybody is boosted to the gills. I wish I could force them all to mask up and to stop shedding spikes and live viruses on everyone.
"force to breathe same air as vaccinated people" ?? "shedding spike" ??? "Taste Covid"?? Holy moly you lost me.... This is right up there with the same people claiming that masks trap CO2.
I don’t know for sure that they shed spike but I do know that they breed the virus. The mRNA injections have a Typhoid Mary like effect. COVID has a flavor unlike any I’ve tasted before and I’ve tasted it twice again with almost no other symptoms after the first time I got it. Sort of like the taste of regular common cold boogers but pukier if that makes any sense.
No man that makes no sense. I have had covid, there is no TASTE to covid. No i didn't lose my sense of smell or taste, i was able to taste regular food just fine. the vaccine does not breed the virus. It instruct your cells to create harmless spike proteins. So that when your immune system sees the real thing, it will already know what to do with it.
What variant did you get? Maybe only Omicron tastes like that.
And the spike proteins in the mRNA injection are not harmless, they still contain the furin cleavage site which enables syncytia to form. And it doesn't even contain an adjuvant (except accidentally, through DNA contamination or whatever) so more likely it will trick your body into becoming immune tolerant to the spike protein. Read this:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-021-00880-0
The furin cleavage site, it is important to note that the presence of this site is not unique to the mRNA vaccines. It is actually present in the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself. The vaccines have been designed to target this specific protein, which is necessary for the virus to enter human cells. By generating an immune response against the spike protein, the vaccine helps the body to recognize and fight the virus.
For the concern about immune tolerance, it is true that the immune system can sometimes become tolerant to a particular antigen, such as the spike protein. However, this is not a concern with the mRNA vaccines. The vaccines are designed to stimulate a strong immune response, including the production of neutralizing antibodies, which can effectively prevent infection.
Overall, it's important to rely on credible scientific sources and evidence-based information when evaluating the safety and efficacy of vaccines.
Taste covid? What's that?
COVID has a peculiar flavor of its own when you get it.