I can't tell you how I look forward to your stack when it's covering arrests and trials and the aftermath of all this insanity. It must be coming. It must.
I can't tell you how I look forward to your stack when it's covering arrests and trials and the aftermath of all this insanity. It must be coming. It must.
YouтАЩre correct, time always tells. But some things are predictable. A few tells as to how this will play out.
1. Hillary is not in prison.
2. No one from Perdue spent one second in jail over Oxy.
3. Zero people from Pfizer went to jail for Vioxx, even though it killed 88,000 people.
Perdue execs pay a fine around $680 million for killing an untold number of people. Alex Jones has to pay $1 billion for telling the truth about Sandy Hoax.
Sorry but anyone hoping for any sort of trials for this needs to put down the hopium pipe and just walk away.
One thing the MAGA crowd needs to recognize is that if trials do happen, Trump is going down as well. He (and his SIL) were obviously the prime movers behind Operation Warp Speed. You can bet that anyone being hauled before a Nuremberg II style trial (including Fauci), will claim that they were pressured by Trump to get the "vaccine" to market ASAP. It wouldn't surprise me that, if Fauci were put on the hot seat, he would gladly turn over emails and texts from Trump that lays this whole crime against humanity, at Trump's feet.
In other words, if Fauci, et al. are convicted, Trump would necessarily be convicted as well.
@Beeblebrox: I donтАЩt blame Donald Trump. He should have been able to trust his medical & public health staff. Doubt seriously that he was aware of the corruption that was going on. He did many things right & made an effort to flood the country with Hydroxychloroquine early on. His efforts were sabotaged by corrupt bureaucrats. Widespread early treatment would have ended the pandemic.
Your premise is faulty, so your argument fails. Your premise is that it is the mere availability of the vaxx that is the problem. It's not. The problems are 1. Mandates 2. Lack of informed consent/suppression of material information/suppression of alternative treatments and protocols 3. Lack of follow-up 4. Unnecessarily prolonged emergency status 5. Imposition of punishments such as long of medical licenses, job/income loss, imprisonment or other censures.
Actually no. My premise is sound. The things you add are certainly true but Trump's Emergency declaration and later, his Warp Speed operation were the evils that made the other later evils possible.
If Trump had not been so intent on being the savior of the world, the mRNA tech would, to this day, still be in trials. Covid would be a memory by the time those trials finished 5 or 10 years hence.
So is the flu no danger to 99% of the population. But thereтАЩs a big flu shot push every year. He probably knew that COVID was not a big deal. But people thought it was. His plan was to get it out there, assuming it would be like the yearly flu shot - ie mainly useless but more or less harmless. He was lied to. He was out of office before anything definitive could be known.
So the defense of Trump is that he is a moron? Okay, we all knew this already.
I suppose it would be something if he got in front of cameras to apologize for being responsible (and he IS the one who is ultimately reponsible) for killing hundreds of thousands of people.
Trump may not be very polished and you may not agree with him, but he is far from being a moron.
If you want to see a moron, look at the current occupant of the White House. Even before his brain broke he wasnтАЩt very bright. And heтАЩs always been corrupt.
Biden and the Dims in Congress have given us the economic mess with their stupid policies.
If I hire an ax murderer with impeccable credentials to run a daycare and he chops everyone to pieces am I тАШultimately responsibleтАЩ? Of course not. Fauci, Birx, Bourla are ultimately responsible. The vax should have been stopped by February. April at the latest. ThatтАЩs on Biden.
The actual analogy is you hire a professional daycare manager who has a terrible track record (in this case Fauci), and then demand that he run the daycare without any consideration for the health and well being of the children. You say to the guy "just get it done no matter what it takes."
As a backstop, you do have the sense to get at least some consultation on your warp speed daycare plan from another professional (Atlas) but then later fire him when the primary person with the terrible track record says that you shouldn't have hired the secondary consultant in the first place.
Because you're a moron, you just blissfully go about your warp speed daycare operation and even after it's clear that the daycare professional you hired is a criminal, you still claim that your original daycare plan was the most brilliant move any person has ever made.
You hate Trump. I get it. But use your head. Stop thinking with your hatred. He was told terrible lies. Including they can get a vaccine. By the time he knew COVID was no big deal the vaccine was on its way. They had manufactured millions of doses before they had approval. Not approval from Trump. From the letter agencies. NO ONE could have anticipated what happened. Anticipating the vax would be useless was easy to anticipate. Anticipating the entire worlds medical community would conspire to kill people was not reasonable to think when he set it in motion.
You're a Trump sycophant, I get it. Instead of being a cultist how about look at this if it had been Obama who had rolled out an experimental "vaccine" that everyone with an ounce of sense knew couldn't possibly have been adequately tested. And then that program killed hundreds of thousands. "Oh, Obama was lied to - he didn't mean it."
That's not the way this works. Another example is that Bush was lied to about WMDs yet people still hold Bush responsible for his decision to take out Saddam and instigate the Iraq debacle. Same goes for Trump.
So he was lied to. The thing is, Trump LIKES being lied to. This is his entire MO. The Covid response is just one in a long line of terrible and insane mistakes Trump made during his entire administration because the man simply has no discernment whatsoever.
I don't hate the man. However, he needs to be held accountable for his terrible choices. The fact that he even listened to Fauci in the first place is indictment enough. If Fauci goes to jail (and he should) then the man who hired him and gave him the mandate to roll out an experimental vaccine in 10 months when doing so was obviously impossible, should go to jail as well.
Enough with the pedantic responses. Obviously Trump has people to do the hiring.
The head of the mob family also doesn't hire the hitman but he is still pursued for the murders committed by said hitman.
But I do follow your logic thus far. Trump is a bumbling fool you say and shouldn't be held accountable for the deadly program that he personally authorized and promoted. He signed the emergency authorization that allowed Pfizer to proceed and which, incidentally also absolved Pfizer of any liability.
Indeed the fact that all the bad players in this debacle were acting under the emergency authorization signed by Trump, means they can't actually be held accountable. Trump gave them carte blanche to proceed.
So the fool gave them free reign and that will be their defense.
Sadly it's a bigger problem than that. Our DoD has partnered with Big Pharma. So they are actually no longer working for the us - the US. It's a globally coordinated plan, and our government appears captured and working for a larger entity.
We'll need to go after the many tentacles to get to the "head."
This is the honest approach but I know some Trump fans who think Trump тАЬjust got bad adviceтАЭ so itтАЩs not his fault.
So apparently the thinking is that underlings are to blame? Not the top dog?
If thatтАЩs the case then no one will be held accountable since people higher on the food chain (like Fauci) will simply claim that they too got bad advice.
However, thatтАЩs not how any of this works. The buck has to stop with someone.
If Trump тАЬgot bad adviceтАЭ then Biden for bad advice, too ( from the same little man, no less). No way is that an excuse to do what has been done to those who simply wished to decline this medical intervention.
I can't tell you how I look forward to your stack when it's covering arrests and trials and the aftermath of all this insanity. It must be coming. It must.
Sorry but there will be no trials.
Time will tell.
YouтАЩre correct, time always tells. But some things are predictable. A few tells as to how this will play out.
1. Hillary is not in prison.
2. No one from Perdue spent one second in jail over Oxy.
3. Zero people from Pfizer went to jail for Vioxx, even though it killed 88,000 people.
Perdue execs pay a fine around $680 million for killing an untold number of people. Alex Jones has to pay $1 billion for telling the truth about Sandy Hoax.
Sorry but anyone hoping for any sort of trials for this needs to put down the hopium pipe and just walk away.
One thing the MAGA crowd needs to recognize is that if trials do happen, Trump is going down as well. He (and his SIL) were obviously the prime movers behind Operation Warp Speed. You can bet that anyone being hauled before a Nuremberg II style trial (including Fauci), will claim that they were pressured by Trump to get the "vaccine" to market ASAP. It wouldn't surprise me that, if Fauci were put on the hot seat, he would gladly turn over emails and texts from Trump that lays this whole crime against humanity, at Trump's feet.
In other words, if Fauci, et al. are convicted, Trump would necessarily be convicted as well.
@Beeblebrox: I donтАЩt blame Donald Trump. He should have been able to trust his medical & public health staff. Doubt seriously that he was aware of the corruption that was going on. He did many things right & made an effort to flood the country with Hydroxychloroquine early on. His efforts were sabotaged by corrupt bureaucrats. Widespread early treatment would have ended the pandemic.
Your premise is faulty, so your argument fails. Your premise is that it is the mere availability of the vaxx that is the problem. It's not. The problems are 1. Mandates 2. Lack of informed consent/suppression of material information/suppression of alternative treatments and protocols 3. Lack of follow-up 4. Unnecessarily prolonged emergency status 5. Imposition of punishments such as long of medical licenses, job/income loss, imprisonment or other censures.
Actually no. My premise is sound. The things you add are certainly true but Trump's Emergency declaration and later, his Warp Speed operation were the evils that made the other later evils possible.
If Trump had not been so intent on being the savior of the world, the mRNA tech would, to this day, still be in trials. Covid would be a memory by the time those trials finished 5 or 10 years hence.
I donтАЩt see how Trump can really be blamed. HeтАЩs not a doctor or a scientist, and he was lied to by Fauci, Collins , and Birx.
Deborah Birx bragged in her book about how they misled ( lied to) Donald Trump about the pandemic.
You canтАЩt blame the man for trying to save lives. You certainly can blame the others for lying to him.....
So Biden is not to blame then, either. Not being that.
We could even make that claim about Biden Up until about April.
Trump didnтАЩt try to FORCE people to get the clotshots.
Biden did.....repeatedly.
Enough said.
Did he or did he not pressure people THAT HE HIRED, to get the job done at тАЬwarp speedтАЭ?
When it became obvious that the trials were inadequate, did he put a stop to the rollout?
Did he not know that Covid was no danger to 99% of the population?
I knew. Why didnтАЩt Trump?
All of this is clearly on Trump and he should answer for his terrible decisions.
Did it occur to you that he was trying to save lives?
Not everything is done with malevolent intent.
So is the flu no danger to 99% of the population. But thereтАЩs a big flu shot push every year. He probably knew that COVID was not a big deal. But people thought it was. His plan was to get it out there, assuming it would be like the yearly flu shot - ie mainly useless but more or less harmless. He was lied to. He was out of office before anything definitive could be known.
So the defense of Trump is that he is a moron? Okay, we all knew this already.
I suppose it would be something if he got in front of cameras to apologize for being responsible (and he IS the one who is ultimately reponsible) for killing hundreds of thousands of people.
That would be a good start.
Trump may not be very polished and you may not agree with him, but he is far from being a moron.
If you want to see a moron, look at the current occupant of the White House. Even before his brain broke he wasnтАЩt very bright. And heтАЩs always been corrupt.
Biden and the Dims in Congress have given us the economic mess with their stupid policies.
I ll take Trump over Biden any time.
If I hire an ax murderer with impeccable credentials to run a daycare and he chops everyone to pieces am I тАШultimately responsibleтАЩ? Of course not. Fauci, Birx, Bourla are ultimately responsible. The vax should have been stopped by February. April at the latest. ThatтАЩs on Biden.
Your analogy is flawed. But good try anyway.
The actual analogy is you hire a professional daycare manager who has a terrible track record (in this case Fauci), and then demand that he run the daycare without any consideration for the health and well being of the children. You say to the guy "just get it done no matter what it takes."
As a backstop, you do have the sense to get at least some consultation on your warp speed daycare plan from another professional (Atlas) but then later fire him when the primary person with the terrible track record says that you shouldn't have hired the secondary consultant in the first place.
Because you're a moron, you just blissfully go about your warp speed daycare operation and even after it's clear that the daycare professional you hired is a criminal, you still claim that your original daycare plan was the most brilliant move any person has ever made.
You hate Trump. I get it. But use your head. Stop thinking with your hatred. He was told terrible lies. Including they can get a vaccine. By the time he knew COVID was no big deal the vaccine was on its way. They had manufactured millions of doses before they had approval. Not approval from Trump. From the letter agencies. NO ONE could have anticipated what happened. Anticipating the vax would be useless was easy to anticipate. Anticipating the entire worlds medical community would conspire to kill people was not reasonable to think when he set it in motion.
You're a Trump sycophant, I get it. Instead of being a cultist how about look at this if it had been Obama who had rolled out an experimental "vaccine" that everyone with an ounce of sense knew couldn't possibly have been adequately tested. And then that program killed hundreds of thousands. "Oh, Obama was lied to - he didn't mean it."
That's not the way this works. Another example is that Bush was lied to about WMDs yet people still hold Bush responsible for his decision to take out Saddam and instigate the Iraq debacle. Same goes for Trump.
So he was lied to. The thing is, Trump LIKES being lied to. This is his entire MO. The Covid response is just one in a long line of terrible and insane mistakes Trump made during his entire administration because the man simply has no discernment whatsoever.
I don't hate the man. However, he needs to be held accountable for his terrible choices. The fact that he even listened to Fauci in the first place is indictment enough. If Fauci goes to jail (and he should) then the man who hired him and gave him the mandate to roll out an experimental vaccine in 10 months when doing so was obviously impossible, should go to jail as well.
Fauci has been in his position since the 80s. Trump may be an idiot but he inherited Fauci and his corrupt agencies.
If you consider Trump to be an idiot, then what do you think about Biden and his minders?
He didnтАЩt hire Fauci.
Enough with the pedantic responses. Obviously Trump has people to do the hiring.
The head of the mob family also doesn't hire the hitman but he is still pursued for the murders committed by said hitman.
But I do follow your logic thus far. Trump is a bumbling fool you say and shouldn't be held accountable for the deadly program that he personally authorized and promoted. He signed the emergency authorization that allowed Pfizer to proceed and which, incidentally also absolved Pfizer of any liability.
Indeed the fact that all the bad players in this debacle were acting under the emergency authorization signed by Trump, means they can't actually be held accountable. Trump gave them carte blanche to proceed.
So the fool gave them free reign and that will be their defense.
If that is the case then his defense will show that, no?
And it certainly doesn't explain his silence now does it?
I couldn't care in the least what party anyone who is guilty is from.
The FDA approved it. Studies were provided by pharma. Start there.
Sadly it's a bigger problem than that. Our DoD has partnered with Big Pharma. So they are actually no longer working for the us - the US. It's a globally coordinated plan, and our government appears captured and working for a larger entity.
We'll need to go after the many tentacles to get to the "head."
This is the honest approach but I know some Trump fans who think Trump тАЬjust got bad adviceтАЭ so itтАЩs not his fault.
So apparently the thinking is that underlings are to blame? Not the top dog?
If thatтАЩs the case then no one will be held accountable since people higher on the food chain (like Fauci) will simply claim that they too got bad advice.
However, thatтАЩs not how any of this works. The buck has to stop with someone.
If Trump тАЬgot bad adviceтАЭ then Biden for bad advice, too ( from the same little man, no less). No way is that an excuse to do what has been done to those who simply wished to decline this medical intervention.
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