I don’t see how Trump can really be blamed. He’s not a doctor or a scientist, and he was lied to by Fauci, Collins , and Birx.
Deborah Birx bragged in her book about how they misled ( lied to) Donald Trump about the pandemic.
You can’t blame the man for trying to save lives. You certainly can blame the others for lying to him.....
So is the flu no danger to 99% of the population. But there’s a big flu shot push every year. He probably knew that COVID was not a big deal. But people thought it was. His plan was to get it out there, assuming it would be like the yearly flu shot - ie mainly useless but more or less harmless. He was lied to. He was out of office before anything definitive could be known.
So the defense of Trump is that he is a moron? Okay, we all knew this already.
I suppose it would be something if he got in front of cameras to apologize for being responsible (and he IS the one who is ultimately reponsible) for killing hundreds of thousands of people.
Trump may not be very polished and you may not agree with him, but he is far from being a moron.
If you want to see a moron, look at the current occupant of the White House. Even before his brain broke he wasn’t very bright. And he’s always been corrupt.
Biden and the Dims in Congress have given us the economic mess with their stupid policies.
If I hire an ax murderer with impeccable credentials to run a daycare and he chops everyone to pieces am I ‘ultimately responsible’? Of course not. Fauci, Birx, Bourla are ultimately responsible. The vax should have been stopped by February. April at the latest. That’s on Biden.
The actual analogy is you hire a professional daycare manager who has a terrible track record (in this case Fauci), and then demand that he run the daycare without any consideration for the health and well being of the children. You say to the guy "just get it done no matter what it takes."
As a backstop, you do have the sense to get at least some consultation on your warp speed daycare plan from another professional (Atlas) but then later fire him when the primary person with the terrible track record says that you shouldn't have hired the secondary consultant in the first place.
Because you're a moron, you just blissfully go about your warp speed daycare operation and even after it's clear that the daycare professional you hired is a criminal, you still claim that your original daycare plan was the most brilliant move any person has ever made.
You hate Trump. I get it. But use your head. Stop thinking with your hatred. He was told terrible lies. Including they can get a vaccine. By the time he knew COVID was no big deal the vaccine was on its way. They had manufactured millions of doses before they had approval. Not approval from Trump. From the letter agencies. NO ONE could have anticipated what happened. Anticipating the vax would be useless was easy to anticipate. Anticipating the entire worlds medical community would conspire to kill people was not reasonable to think when he set it in motion.
You're a Trump sycophant, I get it. Instead of being a cultist how about look at this if it had been Obama who had rolled out an experimental "vaccine" that everyone with an ounce of sense knew couldn't possibly have been adequately tested. And then that program killed hundreds of thousands. "Oh, Obama was lied to - he didn't mean it."
That's not the way this works. Another example is that Bush was lied to about WMDs yet people still hold Bush responsible for his decision to take out Saddam and instigate the Iraq debacle. Same goes for Trump.
So he was lied to. The thing is, Trump LIKES being lied to. This is his entire MO. The Covid response is just one in a long line of terrible and insane mistakes Trump made during his entire administration because the man simply has no discernment whatsoever.
I don't hate the man. However, he needs to be held accountable for his terrible choices. The fact that he even listened to Fauci in the first place is indictment enough. If Fauci goes to jail (and he should) then the man who hired him and gave him the mandate to roll out an experimental vaccine in 10 months when doing so was obviously impossible, should go to jail as well.
Biden is a dementia addled old fool who doesn’t know where he is half the time. His handlers are either evil geniuses hell bent on our destruction or complete morons. I’m not sure which. The sad truth is we don’t elect the best among us. With few exceptions most politicians are fools and idiots.
Enough with the pedantic responses. Obviously Trump has people to do the hiring.
The head of the mob family also doesn't hire the hitman but he is still pursued for the murders committed by said hitman.
But I do follow your logic thus far. Trump is a bumbling fool you say and shouldn't be held accountable for the deadly program that he personally authorized and promoted. He signed the emergency authorization that allowed Pfizer to proceed and which, incidentally also absolved Pfizer of any liability.
Indeed the fact that all the bad players in this debacle were acting under the emergency authorization signed by Trump, means they can't actually be held accountable. Trump gave them carte blanche to proceed.
So the fool gave them free reign and that will be their defense.
We all know this. It was also well known that he was engaging in all kinds of shady antics from the days of the AIDS epidemic. Trump could have easily put Atlas in charge.
I don’t see how Trump can really be blamed. He’s not a doctor or a scientist, and he was lied to by Fauci, Collins , and Birx.
Deborah Birx bragged in her book about how they misled ( lied to) Donald Trump about the pandemic.
You can’t blame the man for trying to save lives. You certainly can blame the others for lying to him.....
So Biden is not to blame then, either. Not being that.
We could even make that claim about Biden Up until about April.
Trump didn’t try to FORCE people to get the clotshots.
Biden did.....repeatedly.
Enough said.
Did he or did he not pressure people THAT HE HIRED, to get the job done at “warp speed”?
When it became obvious that the trials were inadequate, did he put a stop to the rollout?
Did he not know that Covid was no danger to 99% of the population?
I knew. Why didn’t Trump?
All of this is clearly on Trump and he should answer for his terrible decisions.
Did it occur to you that he was trying to save lives?
Not everything is done with malevolent intent.
So is the flu no danger to 99% of the population. But there’s a big flu shot push every year. He probably knew that COVID was not a big deal. But people thought it was. His plan was to get it out there, assuming it would be like the yearly flu shot - ie mainly useless but more or less harmless. He was lied to. He was out of office before anything definitive could be known.
So the defense of Trump is that he is a moron? Okay, we all knew this already.
I suppose it would be something if he got in front of cameras to apologize for being responsible (and he IS the one who is ultimately reponsible) for killing hundreds of thousands of people.
That would be a good start.
Trump may not be very polished and you may not agree with him, but he is far from being a moron.
If you want to see a moron, look at the current occupant of the White House. Even before his brain broke he wasn’t very bright. And he’s always been corrupt.
Biden and the Dims in Congress have given us the economic mess with their stupid policies.
I ll take Trump over Biden any time.
If I hire an ax murderer with impeccable credentials to run a daycare and he chops everyone to pieces am I ‘ultimately responsible’? Of course not. Fauci, Birx, Bourla are ultimately responsible. The vax should have been stopped by February. April at the latest. That’s on Biden.
Your analogy is flawed. But good try anyway.
The actual analogy is you hire a professional daycare manager who has a terrible track record (in this case Fauci), and then demand that he run the daycare without any consideration for the health and well being of the children. You say to the guy "just get it done no matter what it takes."
As a backstop, you do have the sense to get at least some consultation on your warp speed daycare plan from another professional (Atlas) but then later fire him when the primary person with the terrible track record says that you shouldn't have hired the secondary consultant in the first place.
Because you're a moron, you just blissfully go about your warp speed daycare operation and even after it's clear that the daycare professional you hired is a criminal, you still claim that your original daycare plan was the most brilliant move any person has ever made.
You hate Trump. I get it. But use your head. Stop thinking with your hatred. He was told terrible lies. Including they can get a vaccine. By the time he knew COVID was no big deal the vaccine was on its way. They had manufactured millions of doses before they had approval. Not approval from Trump. From the letter agencies. NO ONE could have anticipated what happened. Anticipating the vax would be useless was easy to anticipate. Anticipating the entire worlds medical community would conspire to kill people was not reasonable to think when he set it in motion.
You're a Trump sycophant, I get it. Instead of being a cultist how about look at this if it had been Obama who had rolled out an experimental "vaccine" that everyone with an ounce of sense knew couldn't possibly have been adequately tested. And then that program killed hundreds of thousands. "Oh, Obama was lied to - he didn't mean it."
That's not the way this works. Another example is that Bush was lied to about WMDs yet people still hold Bush responsible for his decision to take out Saddam and instigate the Iraq debacle. Same goes for Trump.
So he was lied to. The thing is, Trump LIKES being lied to. This is his entire MO. The Covid response is just one in a long line of terrible and insane mistakes Trump made during his entire administration because the man simply has no discernment whatsoever.
I don't hate the man. However, he needs to be held accountable for his terrible choices. The fact that he even listened to Fauci in the first place is indictment enough. If Fauci goes to jail (and he should) then the man who hired him and gave him the mandate to roll out an experimental vaccine in 10 months when doing so was obviously impossible, should go to jail as well.
Fauci has been in his position since the 80s. Trump may be an idiot but he inherited Fauci and his corrupt agencies.
If you consider Trump to be an idiot, then what do you think about Biden and his minders?
Biden is a dementia addled old fool who doesn’t know where he is half the time. His handlers are either evil geniuses hell bent on our destruction or complete morons. I’m not sure which. The sad truth is we don’t elect the best among us. With few exceptions most politicians are fools and idiots.
He didn’t hire Fauci.
Enough with the pedantic responses. Obviously Trump has people to do the hiring.
The head of the mob family also doesn't hire the hitman but he is still pursued for the murders committed by said hitman.
But I do follow your logic thus far. Trump is a bumbling fool you say and shouldn't be held accountable for the deadly program that he personally authorized and promoted. He signed the emergency authorization that allowed Pfizer to proceed and which, incidentally also absolved Pfizer of any liability.
Indeed the fact that all the bad players in this debacle were acting under the emergency authorization signed by Trump, means they can't actually be held accountable. Trump gave them carte blanche to proceed.
So the fool gave them free reign and that will be their defense.
Fauci had his positions for decades before Trump.
We all know this. It was also well known that he was engaging in all kinds of shady antics from the days of the AIDS epidemic. Trump could have easily put Atlas in charge.
But nooo.
If that is the case then his defense will show that, no?
And it certainly doesn't explain his silence now does it?