This is going to have to get far worse before people wake up. I say that because where I live and worked (retired from my healthcare job end of 2020 but still in close contact with co-workers), there have not been any sudden deaths or injuries in these folks. And I have been watching closely. So among my neighbors (I know about 50 of t…
This is going to have to get far worse before people wake up. I say that because where I live and worked (retired from my healthcare job end of 2020 but still in close contact with co-workers), there have not been any sudden deaths or injuries in these folks. And I have been watching closely. So among my neighbors (I know about 50 of them), my co-workers (approx 30), and members of my church (I know about 50 of them well), none have died or showed any sign of injury from the COVID vax. Out of all of those people, I can only count 3 who are not vaccinated. And this does not even include all of my extended family living in other states, all of whom are vaccinated for COVID. They are fine, so far. No deaths, no known injuries. Yet. This is why they don’t believe. It has not become personal yet.
I doubt what you’re saying. Im not accusing you of lying. But, in that many people you might easily not have a death. And it would be less likely but possible not to have a major injury. But I doubt five to ten are not injured. For example a neighbour came to my house to get her dog whom we had been caring for. We dog-sit her pet as they travel often. She called to say they’re back. I said I would be outside waiting. She drove up, got out of her car and DIDN’T recognize me! She is late 50s. She is very pro vax. Been vaxed four times. I see lots of people who seem to have aged ten years in two. One guy has one arm Atrophying. The doctor said it is because ten years before he had broken his thumb on that arm. He also is very pro vax. A death in that many people? Questionable. A major injury would be more likely. But major injuries growing? Unless your whole cohort got saline for the first couple of doses it would be very unlikely for none of them to be showing signs of damage.
There are batches that perhaps were rendered ineffective due to poor handling. My son and DIL got jabs and did not even have a sore arm. I am praying. My niece , less than 40, got a pulmonary clot and blamed it on hitting her shin on the bedstead. She’s a vaccine freak and would not even go see her folks till they were Vaxxed.
We have family who would not see us for 2 years because my cousin who is a doctor convinced everyone we might kill her parents (my aunt/uncle). She’s eased up recently.
My job has been an excellent control group study for the vax. Even though I haven't seen anyone die from the jab, I have seen the erosion of the immune system in perfectly healthy mid 40s and younger adults who are now chronically sick. I've worked with these people for years, they aren't obese or having any health issues prior to the jab campaign. Those who were very pro vax were quite vocal about it and boasted proudly when they got their booster, or two. We pretty much knew everyone who chose to remain unvaccinated. All of us got Covid once and we are doing well. Everyone who got the third, or forth shot, have been having respiratory infections of some kind almost every 2-3 months. My supervisor is the worst case so far out of work again right now: had Covid four times, three times with pneumonia in the past year and a half, and now currently supposedly has this RSV junk of some kind I'm hearing about that is circling around with the jabbed.
Im Seeing the same thing. At one point there were 40 young guys on my job site. 25 were off sick. All jabbed. The 16 not off were about 90% unjabbed. I had six office staff. Five were off sick. All jabbed. The one guy not sick? Not jabbed.
Oh that’s interesting and so sad for your co-workers. All of my vaccinated friends and family have had COVID 2 times, a few of them 3 times. We are unvaccinated and we have only had it once so far. Hoping it has conferred some longer term, broader immunity on us.
Honestly I’ve been baffled by what I have observed up until now. I live in a small town so it hasn’t been that challenging to monitor. I had expected to see some very obviously injured people by now in my small world but I haven’t. But you may very well be right - people may be injured but I just covering well.
I suspect it is 1 in 30 severely injured. I also suspect 1 in 150 dead. Numbers say if you know well 60 people or 90 people 2 or 3 would be badly hurt. However, numbers never evenly distribute. Someone might know 7 or 10 while a few others not know any. Also where i live the real results didn’t show until the third shot. If your cohort got AZ first shot, with half getting saline, then Pfizer only after the second shot it might take awhile. I am not saying AZ is better but the negative effects are cumulative to each brand. Getting one AZ and then one Pfizer is arguably better than two of either. Possibly.
agree - injuries definitely not evenly spread and not everyone i know well got a third shot. i did read a while back from dr yeadon that in the US the majority of injuries had been linked to around 10 percent of the batches. my belief (or maybe just hope) is that there have been placebo saline shots, or that the vaccines were improperly stored, possibly causing a degradation of the contents, thus making them ineffective.
When I review data from my area there is an exponential uptick on the booster. One shot and unjabbed show little difference. Two shots and differences show. Three shots is where the ‘rubber hits the road’
My experience. Is the older the cohort the less noticeable the effect. Their eyes start to go. Their energy wanes, they get dozy. But they’re already old. I notice a slight sag to their faces. One side droops ever so slightly. Younger people seem to virulently respond. Negatively.
This is going to have to get far worse before people wake up. I say that because where I live and worked (retired from my healthcare job end of 2020 but still in close contact with co-workers), there have not been any sudden deaths or injuries in these folks. And I have been watching closely. So among my neighbors (I know about 50 of them), my co-workers (approx 30), and members of my church (I know about 50 of them well), none have died or showed any sign of injury from the COVID vax. Out of all of those people, I can only count 3 who are not vaccinated. And this does not even include all of my extended family living in other states, all of whom are vaccinated for COVID. They are fine, so far. No deaths, no known injuries. Yet. This is why they don’t believe. It has not become personal yet.
I doubt what you’re saying. Im not accusing you of lying. But, in that many people you might easily not have a death. And it would be less likely but possible not to have a major injury. But I doubt five to ten are not injured. For example a neighbour came to my house to get her dog whom we had been caring for. We dog-sit her pet as they travel often. She called to say they’re back. I said I would be outside waiting. She drove up, got out of her car and DIDN’T recognize me! She is late 50s. She is very pro vax. Been vaxed four times. I see lots of people who seem to have aged ten years in two. One guy has one arm Atrophying. The doctor said it is because ten years before he had broken his thumb on that arm. He also is very pro vax. A death in that many people? Questionable. A major injury would be more likely. But major injuries growing? Unless your whole cohort got saline for the first couple of doses it would be very unlikely for none of them to be showing signs of damage.
There are batches that perhaps were rendered ineffective due to poor handling. My son and DIL got jabs and did not even have a sore arm. I am praying. My niece , less than 40, got a pulmonary clot and blamed it on hitting her shin on the bedstead. She’s a vaccine freak and would not even go see her folks till they were Vaxxed.
We have family who would not see us for 2 years because my cousin who is a doctor convinced everyone we might kill her parents (my aunt/uncle). She’s eased up recently.
My job has been an excellent control group study for the vax. Even though I haven't seen anyone die from the jab, I have seen the erosion of the immune system in perfectly healthy mid 40s and younger adults who are now chronically sick. I've worked with these people for years, they aren't obese or having any health issues prior to the jab campaign. Those who were very pro vax were quite vocal about it and boasted proudly when they got their booster, or two. We pretty much knew everyone who chose to remain unvaccinated. All of us got Covid once and we are doing well. Everyone who got the third, or forth shot, have been having respiratory infections of some kind almost every 2-3 months. My supervisor is the worst case so far out of work again right now: had Covid four times, three times with pneumonia in the past year and a half, and now currently supposedly has this RSV junk of some kind I'm hearing about that is circling around with the jabbed.
Im Seeing the same thing. At one point there were 40 young guys on my job site. 25 were off sick. All jabbed. The 16 not off were about 90% unjabbed. I had six office staff. Five were off sick. All jabbed. The one guy not sick? Not jabbed.
Wow. That’s awful. Just so sad.
Oh that’s interesting and so sad for your co-workers. All of my vaccinated friends and family have had COVID 2 times, a few of them 3 times. We are unvaccinated and we have only had it once so far. Hoping it has conferred some longer term, broader immunity on us.
Honestly I’ve been baffled by what I have observed up until now. I live in a small town so it hasn’t been that challenging to monitor. I had expected to see some very obviously injured people by now in my small world but I haven’t. But you may very well be right - people may be injured but I just covering well.
I suspect it is 1 in 30 severely injured. I also suspect 1 in 150 dead. Numbers say if you know well 60 people or 90 people 2 or 3 would be badly hurt. However, numbers never evenly distribute. Someone might know 7 or 10 while a few others not know any. Also where i live the real results didn’t show until the third shot. If your cohort got AZ first shot, with half getting saline, then Pfizer only after the second shot it might take awhile. I am not saying AZ is better but the negative effects are cumulative to each brand. Getting one AZ and then one Pfizer is arguably better than two of either. Possibly.
agree - injuries definitely not evenly spread and not everyone i know well got a third shot. i did read a while back from dr yeadon that in the US the majority of injuries had been linked to around 10 percent of the batches. my belief (or maybe just hope) is that there have been placebo saline shots, or that the vaccines were improperly stored, possibly causing a degradation of the contents, thus making them ineffective.
When I review data from my area there is an exponential uptick on the booster. One shot and unjabbed show little difference. Two shots and differences show. Three shots is where the ‘rubber hits the road’
I’ve two 70 year old aunts who have taken 4 jabs. I’ve literally held my breath, just waiting for something awful to happen but so far so good.
My experience. Is the older the cohort the less noticeable the effect. Their eyes start to go. Their energy wanes, they get dozy. But they’re already old. I notice a slight sag to their faces. One side droops ever so slightly. Younger people seem to virulently respond. Negatively.