There are now 13 different bets listed on the term sheet. If you think the virus doesn't exist or any other such nonsense, you should accept one of the bets and let's resolve the issue.
But it's clear that NOBODY has any conviction for any of these beliefs as you can see from the bet acceptances and the side bets (which are all consistent with my beliefs). The link for the term sheet is in the article. Please stop claiming the virus doesn't exist if you are not willing to demonstrate your commitment by accepting my bet or making a commitment in the side-pool. thanks.
The burden of proof is on you. No debate or $1MM needed. Just show us any virus ever in the snot of a sick person. That’s it. You’ll end the debate and shut us all up. Use your money to find a virologist with this evidence. Super simple.
Lol. Now that is funny. Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence. Time for your scientists to pony up the evidence. Or do you have scientists? I really don't think so.
Huh? I make no claim. The claim is that there is something called a virus that causes illness. That’s not my claim. Those who make a claim carry the burden of proof. That’s how it works.
All I’ve asked for is proof of their claim that virus is carried in the lung sputum or other fluids among those infected.
Oh, and appeals to authority are my least favorite logical fallacies. I don’t care who claims what. Credentials mean nothing unless you choose to outsource your opinions to some authority. If you need this affirmation to process logical rationale, then yes I have an army of scientists who are colleagues and agree with me. But you can bring any virologist in the world to me, bring them all. Not one of them can find any virus, and I mean any virus ever, in the fluids taken directly from a sick person. So either use logic to deduce whether this poses a problem to the claim, or go ask some “scientists” and let us know their excuse for never finding virus in some snot.
Let me tell you how it works in the real world be because your little cult doesn't seem to live in it. When something in the scientific world is widely accepted as real based on many decades of research if someone challenges those facts it is up the challanger to show their facts.
Your cult not only doesn't have provabe facts you expect others to pay for your research. That is the definition of pathetic. And your little projection games are laughable.
Aw you seem nice. Thanks for your opinion. In my experience consensus is usually based on a marriage, a rally cry, financial motivation, and so on. See masks, vaccination, wars, and on and on and on…
I am still waiting for you to produce hard evidence that have never danced around naked on your lawn in the middle of the night with a dildo up your arse.
Provide hard evidence of the virus AND that it is in fact the CAUSE of the disease, and this will end the debate. The ONLY reason there is a debate, is because there is NOT clear enough evidence that this particular particle is ACTUALLY causing disease. We DO have ample evidence that the SPIKE PROTEIN (shell, delivery system) is causing disease. But this argument about the virus (payload) causing anything other than a pile of false positive tests, is just a diversion.
The strawman argument that it surely does exist if we cannot provide evidence of its NON-existence, is beyond absurd. You have insulted your readers terribly with that bet.
He will not provide any such evidence because it doesn't exist.
That's why he wants to debate instead and have a panel of experts agree with his baseless allegations. Doing a simple experiment using the supposed SARS COV2 isolate would kill his confirmation bias as nothing in this world can get infected by a dead particles called viruses...
It originated in a lab and was released intentionally (the mRNA 'cure' is the real bioweapon). Event 201, Rockefeller 'Lockstep', The Great Reset/New Normal, Schwab, Gates, eugenics and the elite, and myriad other dry runs in the past (swine flu, bird flu, etc) are dead giveaways.
Steve, if you think it was released 'accidentally' and the whole world (including our 'enemies') participated in the largest coordinated coverup in world history because someone at the NIH screwed up, you've been deceived. You need to think this one through.
Huh? What are you even trying to say? Because the virus was circulating in Italy in 2019 it therefore was not man made? That makes no sense whatsoever.
What I'm trying to say is the very evidence (genetic tree) for the origins of the virus is self-contradictory...
BTW: the supposed gain of function leading to SARS COV2 can't be replicated. If you insert furin cleavage sequence into any of the corons virus models, I will help you to collect the Nobel Prize...Until then, the lab created virus remains a computer simulation; in the imagination and wishful thinking of people who lost touch with reality...
I believe I read that this gain of function crap was going on long before 2019. But I am also of the belief that there is ZERO hard evidence this particle, (whether or not it had ever been isolated) is actually the CAUSE of any disease. The spike protein, (delivery system for the so-called virus) appears to cause problems. And this is WHY they loaded the syringes with the spikes. We still have ZERO evidence that the virus (payload) causes anything bad.
ALL of this hype was intended for ONE purpose, to drive people to the needle out of FEAR. And now, the evidence that their injections DO cause disease, could not be any more OBVIOUS;-)
Maybe whatever it is that they deployed, was only intended to assure they would get enough positives, so they could falsely blame every death on this virus. I am just saying,....maybe. They were clearly testing for a particle that is UBIQUITOUS, whether they played a role in making it so or not.
Most people who "believe" the "virus" doesn't exist, likely actually do believe that it does when/if everyone is on the same page.
They just simply believe that it's an engineered poison being injected into people and not some "contagious" pandemic causing pathogen, so a little bit different take is all.
But until people comprehend that there was no pandemic caused by a pathogen before the shots then it's all moot anyway.
Until people can see that there were hardly any "true" excess deaths at all when using real numbers and not garbage CDC modeling data (and that the vast majority of those who did die let's just say, prematurely, did so due to protocols and not due to a pathogen "spreading" throughout the population), then any analysis conducted under such false pretenses is sure to be bunk as well.
There were never people "dying in the streets" like they tried to fear monger people into believing and long before the "shots" were even available to the general public at large many of us were warning people not to fall for this BS and certainly to never fall for getting yourself injected with their engineered bio-poison.
I guess we failed miserably on all accounts though because not only do people still "believe" there was in fact a pre-injection pandemic, but they actually ran out in huge numbers (hundreds of millions) and got themselves injected by anyone in scrubs at their local gas station, or wherever, just because the TV told them to.
two reasons.... first off the evil greedy big pharma cartel NEEDS the virus myth to push all their "virus killing" drugs and vaccines...without the virus myth they would literally go broke...which would greatly benefit humanity...secondly...the virus myth is whats used to push vaccines which even Steve acknowledges are not only useless but also dangerous and would put an end to all of their fabricated plandemics..just look at the history of viral plandemics...its a never ending scam...
For the suffering they cause, they'll have to be born again and again to suffer. This is the law of Karma - the law of action and reaction or as "you shall sow so shall you reap."
The wisdom is the path to happiness, not the ignorance and arrogance.
See my challenge above Steve. You show your commitment. Burden of proof is on you. If viruses exist, show us virus in fluids taken directly from a sick person. Any virus. Covid or otherwise. Do this and you win. Cowan, Kaufman, Zeck, Lanka will admit defeat once you find someone to show us these images. Fail to do it, you lose. It’s simple and no reason you shouldn’t be able to show the world given your confidence. We’ll be waiting (a very long time)…
EXACTLY! It is the person making the claim that something is true, who must provide evidence of it's existence.
The person who says, "If you can't prove you were NOT dancing on your lawn at 3:30 am with a blue dildo up your arse, then this proves you WERE dancing around with that thing up your pooper" who is the bad guy. He's the one playing the role of the charlatan.
Not having evidence that something is untrue, is NOT evidence that it IS true.
Lol! There are a handful of common logical fallacies we see over and over again: ad hominem, affirming the consequent, and so on. And this one is so obvious. If you make a positive claim, logic dictates YOU must prove your claim. Steve, we’ll await your proof. And for gods sake don’t show us some study where they poison vero cells and show us the dead cell debris claiming it’s a virus. Just show us virus directly from some Covid snot. Easy.
I was once granted a legal finding of factual innocence, i.e., I was able to prove there was ZERO chance I could have committed a crime I was accused of. The court (over 100 years in business) admitted they had never before granted this type of petition , (Cal. Penal Code 851). Proving such a negative is close to impossible.
So now prove to me that you were NOT dancing naked on your back lawn with a purple dildo at 3:30 am last night. Prove it. If you cannot prove this, then you did it;-) THIS is very much how our justice system functions these days, particularly in the court of public opinion.
So bring on the pissing Russian hookers, who couldn't even give a DATE for the event. There is at least some chance you have an alibi for 3:30 am last night.
So here you are asking someone to prove the virus does NOT exist. You should offer a million dollars to anyone who can prove it DOES exist. If it does exist, it should be EASY to collect that money. In fact, you could bring it down to $20 and if it does exist, SOMEONE will be able to easily collect their $20 and make a fool of everyone who said it is not real.
Btw - I will debate you for free, I don't care for this million. It is an obstacle to the debate, because we are not materially equal. But I would take an argument challenge.
According to Gates "It is not your fault you were born poor it is your fault to die poor." Well, depending on what makes a person rich. I would say to Gates - "Well, even if it was your fault you were born with poverty of heart but certainly you wasted your life if you die with poverty of your heart" - so wealth is relative.
I mean I will debate you but I HAVE NO 200 K to put in front of the debate - not that I lose it, but I can't offer of what I don't have - so you need to debate the rich.
If you truly want to debate, I will debate you with a PLEASURE and I will destroy your arguments
Who cares what his credentials are? Look at what the people with credentials have done to this world. It’s the people without credentials (credentials issued by those who control the entire medical paradigm) that I trust. F credentials.
Truth is one does t have to be a genius to win this debate. I’m certainly not but he can’t show me anywhere in the history of virology where anyone identifies the particles they call virus in a sample taken from a sick person. It’s an easy debate to win.
He should take a serious offer for the debate's sake, not for money - do you think we should set up thresholds that are not possible to meet for a poor genius - but well, this world is a crazy place
Viruses are more complicated than most people have been led to believe by media or basic schooling. The subject of how much we really know about viruses and germ theory deserves more attention and discussion, but not here. If you want to debate the existence of viruses or germ theory, start a substack on it and hammer away at it. People that keep making this point on covid threads come across like Pfizer shills or feds to me.
two quick questions...are your "experts" that are confirming that the virus exists the same "experts" that conned you into getting the clot shot...and can you answer the five questions posed by Dr. Kaufman in this short video...if you are time constrained just go the 35 minute mark where the questions are presented...but I highly suggest watching the entire video as it also debunks the "pictures of the virus" claim...https://www.bitchute.com/video/rekrHZ52IKZy/
Tha_kanye_east has just under a million tik followers. Can you just try sponsoring him a little as I FED him David Martin's indictees & collaborated. I can make a better video with your slides too if you want to ad[d] input. The masses need to be reached and the pressure shall mount. That plus prayer to g-d goes the glory and triumph. Shabbat Shalom! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRDnCC84/?k=1
Since 1918 the reality of the deadly Spanish Flu virus was predominant until 2008 when the preserved samples from many victims of the deadly Spanish Flu virus were analyzed.
Results?
"...In 2008, he coauthored a study for the Journal of Infectious Disease confessing that virtually all of the “influenza” casualties in 1918 did not actually die from flu but from bacterial pneumonia and bronchial meningitis, which are, today, easily treated with antibiotics unavailable in 1918..."
“Predominant Role of Bacterial Pneumonia as a Cause of Death in Pandemic Influenza: Implications for Pandemic Influenza Preparedness”
David M.. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, Anthony S. Fauci
The Journal of Infectious Diseases, Volume 198, Issue 7, 1 October 2008, Pages 962–970, https://doi.org/10.1086/591708 Published 01 October 2008
It looks like Mike agrees with me that SARS CoV-2 was pieced together on genbank under instructions to find the nearest bat to match it to. That's how they came up with RaTG13. I remember the article that laid out the method used in obtaining the genetic links to RaTG13.
Mike suspects nothing leaked from a lab, or that it wasn't causing what's been called COVID.
It's like I've been harping on since 2019 when the virus was first announced. This was a psyop to get people to take transhuman, depopulation shots. As Mike says, COVID is just one part of a broad effort to usher in the NWO.
And here's the motive from the lips of Peter Daszak and Anthony Fauci.
Peter Daszak said at the National Academies for Science in 2015, and published in 2016:
"…until an infectious disease crisis is very real, present, and at an emergency threshold, it is often largely ignored. To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis … we need to increase public understanding of the need for [medical countermeasures] such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of process."
A video emerged where Fauci and others planned for a “Universal mRNA Flu Vaccine” which became the “COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine” because people were not afraid enough of the flu virus.
Remember, according to a social security whistleblower who grabbed copies of the U.S. Deaths master file, death by all causes remained unchanged by the end of 2019 - late 2020. I have read the CDC went back and altered that data to conceal that truth. I checked the reports when they first came out, the deaths were not statistically different from the 10 year average," as I recall.
The Chinese people dropping dead in Wuhan appeared to be staged. Doctors were failing to treat people with bacterial pneumonia. Mike found during 2020-2021, 50% of the antibiotics needed for bacterial pneumonia cases were used, meaning a lot of doctors simply were not treating it. We already know about deadly hospital protocols, like sending people home with respiratory distress, and telling them to come back when they're near death, but doing nothing to help them. Mike said these cases were easy to treat. He cites numerous doctors who developed successful protocols.
This is a great segment on by Michael Yeadon. Mike has lost family and friends due to his enlightenment about COVID. I really feel bad for the guy. He's doing his best to wake people up to the truth, that we're all going to lose our freedom if we don't start waking people up and doing something about it.
Soooo, Mike Yeadon who has been very outspoken about Covid BS, and as you probably know is a former VP at Pfizer, just acknowledged he believes there is no such thing as a respiratory virus. Understand how difficult this must have been for Mike. This is a man who spent his entire career studying virology. I’ve been privy to email exchanges between Mike and some prominent scientists on the terrain (no virus) side. He fought back early but admitted shortcomings of virology. And then slowly came around as presumably he could no longer deny the obvious. Understand that there is ZERO chance Mike Yeadon would have publicly stated his new position unless he was absolutely certain. I hate appeals to authority but I think this is significant and will help others start to break down their own cognitive dissonance. I have so much respect for Mike and the courage it took to admit that for decades he was studying a fictional entity called a virus. He clung to this throughout the “pandemic” and only recently came out with this. Hopefully this link works for you. https://t.me/c/1546177402/4551
**Steve, maybe Mike will debate you. Something tells me you’d want no part of that one.
1. Diseases are not caused by viruses or germs. Correct.
2. Flus, colds, ‘germs’, and other disease cannot be transmitted from person to person. Correct.
3. Spoiled food can result in bacteria making us sick, but is not transmissible from person to person. Not exactly... Bacteria do not make us sick. Bacteria are only present to consume dead and dying tissue.
4. Bacteria is not the same thing as a germ. It is real and can be viewed in a microscope without changing the substance of the sample. - Germ is a pretty generic term. Whether you think of germs as a virus (they dont exist) or bacteria (these are the good guys), there simply arent microscopic germs that make us sick. With a sickness, we usually think of symptoms. Runny nose, coughing, fever, swelling, etc. Most doctors are taught and therefore tell their patients that these symptoms ARE the illness. This is completely wrong. Symptoms are our body's beautiful way of detoxing itself. Symptoms are the cure! Yet we are told they are the disease. So what to MDs do? Give us pharmaceuticals to get rid of the symptoms!! And we wonder why despite all our advanced medical technologies we are one of the sickest countries on earth! Unfortunately, we live in a world surrounded by toxins: chemicals, cleaning supplies, herbicides, pesticides, we live in homes built with chemically treated lumber, plastics, overwhelming non native EMF's, vaccines... we are constantly ingesting toxins, breathing them in, bathing in them... so we get symptoms to detox. That's it. No bogeyman invisible germ that no one ever has seen. :)
5. Bacteria is not transmissible from person to person. - Bacteria is essentially omni present. There are literally trillions living in your body right now. They're everywhere. Kiss your wife and you'll exchange bacteria. But it won't make you sick.
6. No ‘virus’ is visible in a microscope (not even an electron miscroscope) without doing something to the sample to make it visible. - You're close. Even after they starve and poison monkey kidney cells mixed with fetal bovine serum and antibiotics, etc. they do not see a virus. They see particles created by the cell death that they caused, and call those particles a virus. Mysteriously, they CANNOT see these same particles in the sputum taken from a sick person.
7. No one in history has ever proven a ‘virus’ can be transmitted from person to person. Correct. Not even close. We only have bogus theories to explain epidemiological observations -- a bunch of people getting sick. We have nothing resembling proof.
8. The appearance of a virus in a prepared sample is the body’s expulsion of particles from toxins, contaminations, or other environmental injury. - No. See #6 if this is what you mean by prepared sample. If you mean sputum directly from a patient, they cannot see virus. They can get a positive PCR test. This is a long rabbit hole (PCR) but the simplest thing to consider is - given the fact they have NEVER seen or isolated a SARS-CoV-2 virus, what are they testing for? Well, they're testing for a match of a genetic sequence constructed in-silico (on a computer) based on one of these BS in-vitro cultures they do in a lab (see #6). To get this genetic sequence they upload a batch of data representing the various genetic material that appeared in this soup of monkey cells, bovine calf serum, etc. and even then, they can't build out the entire viral genome. So the computer fills in the gaps with likely missing links. So, they are LITERALLY testing for a sequence that has never appeared in nature. They readily admit this. I'll shut up on this one, but there's a lot more to say on PCR.
9. The PCR test doesn’t prove the existence of a virus, but may reveal the existence of a common set of symptoms caused by similar environmental factors or contamination. - Almost and maybe. Honestly, it doesn't matter what they are testing for or what the test shows once you realize where they get the original sequence from. It's literally a guess based on throwing a shit ton of data on genetic particles they found from their toxic lab soup into a computer, making up the missing pieces because they dont have a complete genome. PCR cant tell us anything about symptoms, but maybe it tells us commonalities humans have when experiencing detox/illness. Maybe our cells break down in the same way. Whatever it is, it doesnt matter because it definitely DOES NOT tell us we have a virus. So whatever it tells us, it ain't that! : )
10. It is still possible the appearance of COVID was caused by a biological or some other environmental weapon. - I do not think this is possible. We could all be poisoned by something, sure. Poison the water, the air, our electro-magnetic environment (The Invisible Rainbow is a MUST READ)...
But it's not a virus. Johns Hopkins gave a presentation in 2020 showing no excess deaths in the US. We are told the "virus" called the flu just disappeared and we just nod our heads like mindless zombies and just accept that that's true. There was no virus. Remdesivir, Ventilators, isolation, heartache, depression, and vaccines killed people. We all know noone dies from Covid at home right? Only in the hospital. This was all propaganda. Mass formation.
Hope this helps. Email me if you want to continue the convo - jthompclt@gmail.com
You should watch this documentary on AIDS. Same as covid, they just reclassified an already existing set of symptoms. Really good film-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgmzbnckII
You should watch House of Numbers on AIDS. Will blow your mind. They get into the lab tests, electron microscopy, everything I mention above on Covid. WIth AIDS, just like covid, they reclassified an already existing set of symptoms and called it AIDS. RFK Jr. actually has great insight on this. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgmzbnckII
The virus originated in the humans, animals and birds that God made.
It's gone through alterations in labs since the advent of vaccines.
The gene deletions were done with CRSPR.
Gene alterations happened from growing human cells together in immortalized animal or bird cells over decades in processes called vaccine attenuation of live viruses and Gain of Function research.
In 2019 the CDC announced the new influenza vaccines for 2019-2020 would have influenza A(h1N1,) and influenza B. I think we all know influenza vaccinated shed the virus. A couple of years ago I read they shed virus as much as 12x the rate of the vaccinated, it was posted on an autism website. I can't find the article now.
Steve, Is there a video of virologists explaining the scientific method they use step by step to find any kind of viruses especially seasonal flu viruses. Can your team of experts make a video showing us laypeople how they find viruses from people with the common seasonal flu?
I have written 40 blog chapters on THE CORONA CONSPIRACY, with special focus on virus denialists such as Icke, Kaufman, Cowan, Lanka, Bailey etc. (but including lab leak theories, Li Meng Yan, Fleming, McKairn).
I am interested in these three warring segments of society:
- STRONG VIRUS: mainstream science and politics
- WEAK VIRUS: science skeptics and alternative medicine
- NO VIRUS: viruses don't exist in the first place
The WEAK/STRONG controversy is widely covered in the media, but recently the NO VIRUS/WEAK VIRUS camps have started to raise their voices as well. I see you are taking a stand here for the WEAK VIRUS camp and challenge the NO VIRUS folks. Good for you.
Please check out: https://www.integralworld.net/visser211.html for my challenges to Stefan Lanka and company. This is a chapter from a two-volume series of books on corona conspiracies,
I don't mean disrespect, you sound very confident about the existence of viruses and specifically of COVID-19, so I was wondering:
what do you think about the "control" experiments of Prof Stefan Lanka, that show the following: following the customary and ONLY supposedly authorized method in virology of testing for any virus existence, ie.
A) by mixing other (bad for cell survival) things + the purported infected by virus sample
is indistringuishable from a control experiment of
B) by mixing other (bad for cell survival) things + known NOT-to-be infected (ie. healthy) sample.
Thus if A) and B) produce the same bad results for the cells (supposedly attributed to the virus), it certainly opens the door for the common part in A) and B), namely the mixing of other (bad for cell survival) things to actually be the cause of the purported effect normally attributed to the by-virus-infected sample.
Maybe you have another reasonable explanation for these control experiments, it'd be interesting to know how can you exclude the possibility of causation by the other-bad-for-cell-survival things...
But Steve....PATRICK GUNNELS who has his own "show" on Rumble says that YOU are a terrible, horrible, liar for even suggesting anyone can isolate the covid virus or any virus!! ..and he said he wrote into you and wants to debate you for a MILLION DOLLARS. Will you please let us know when you speak with him? I really want to watch/listen to this debate!
"Viruses are so small that they are best viewed using an electron microscope, which is how they were first visualized in the 1940s" There....start with that :-)
There are now 13 different bets listed on the term sheet. If you think the virus doesn't exist or any other such nonsense, you should accept one of the bets and let's resolve the issue.
But it's clear that NOBODY has any conviction for any of these beliefs as you can see from the bet acceptances and the side bets (which are all consistent with my beliefs). The link for the term sheet is in the article. Please stop claiming the virus doesn't exist if you are not willing to demonstrate your commitment by accepting my bet or making a commitment in the side-pool. thanks.
I bet against you. Will you take my offer? I don't have so much money to offer, but I will gladly debate you...
The burden of proof is on you. No debate or $1MM needed. Just show us any virus ever in the snot of a sick person. That’s it. You’ll end the debate and shut us all up. Use your money to find a virologist with this evidence. Super simple.
Lol. Now that is funny. Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence. Time for your scientists to pony up the evidence. Or do you have scientists? I really don't think so.
Huh? I make no claim. The claim is that there is something called a virus that causes illness. That’s not my claim. Those who make a claim carry the burden of proof. That’s how it works.
All I’ve asked for is proof of their claim that virus is carried in the lung sputum or other fluids among those infected.
Oh, and appeals to authority are my least favorite logical fallacies. I don’t care who claims what. Credentials mean nothing unless you choose to outsource your opinions to some authority. If you need this affirmation to process logical rationale, then yes I have an army of scientists who are colleagues and agree with me. But you can bring any virologist in the world to me, bring them all. Not one of them can find any virus, and I mean any virus ever, in the fluids taken directly from a sick person. So either use logic to deduce whether this poses a problem to the claim, or go ask some “scientists” and let us know their excuse for never finding virus in some snot.
Let me tell you how it works in the real world be because your little cult doesn't seem to live in it. When something in the scientific world is widely accepted as real based on many decades of research if someone challenges those facts it is up the challanger to show their facts.
Your cult not only doesn't have provabe facts you expect others to pay for your research. That is the definition of pathetic. And your little projection games are laughable.
Aw you seem nice. Thanks for your opinion. In my experience consensus is usually based on a marriage, a rally cry, financial motivation, and so on. See masks, vaccination, wars, and on and on and on…
*narrative not marriage lol
I am still waiting for you to produce hard evidence that have never danced around naked on your lawn in the middle of the night with a dildo up your arse.
Provide hard evidence of the virus AND that it is in fact the CAUSE of the disease, and this will end the debate. The ONLY reason there is a debate, is because there is NOT clear enough evidence that this particular particle is ACTUALLY causing disease. We DO have ample evidence that the SPIKE PROTEIN (shell, delivery system) is causing disease. But this argument about the virus (payload) causing anything other than a pile of false positive tests, is just a diversion.
The strawman argument that it surely does exist if we cannot provide evidence of its NON-existence, is beyond absurd. You have insulted your readers terribly with that bet.
He will not provide any such evidence because it doesn't exist.
That's why he wants to debate instead and have a panel of experts agree with his baseless allegations. Doing a simple experiment using the supposed SARS COV2 isolate would kill his confirmation bias as nothing in this world can get infected by a dead particles called viruses...
THIS was one of the most logical statements I have seen on this entire issue. Thank you for bringing sanity back;-)
Should be easy Steve. We’ll wait…
Until Hell freezes over I imagine;-)
Well said. You are spot on.
It originated in a lab and was released intentionally (the mRNA 'cure' is the real bioweapon). Event 201, Rockefeller 'Lockstep', The Great Reset/New Normal, Schwab, Gates, eugenics and the elite, and myriad other dry runs in the past (swine flu, bird flu, etc) are dead giveaways.
Steve, if you think it was released 'accidentally' and the whole world (including our 'enemies') participated in the largest coordinated coverup in world history because someone at the NIH screwed up, you've been deceived. You need to think this one through.
Really?
Did it travel back in time and spread in Italy in September 2019?
"Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the prepandemic period in Italy "
Https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0300891620974755?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Huh? What are you even trying to say? Because the virus was circulating in Italy in 2019 it therefore was not man made? That makes no sense whatsoever.
What I'm trying to say is the very evidence (genetic tree) for the origins of the virus is self-contradictory...
BTW: the supposed gain of function leading to SARS COV2 can't be replicated. If you insert furin cleavage sequence into any of the corons virus models, I will help you to collect the Nobel Prize...Until then, the lab created virus remains a computer simulation; in the imagination and wishful thinking of people who lost touch with reality...
I believe I read that this gain of function crap was going on long before 2019. But I am also of the belief that there is ZERO hard evidence this particle, (whether or not it had ever been isolated) is actually the CAUSE of any disease. The spike protein, (delivery system for the so-called virus) appears to cause problems. And this is WHY they loaded the syringes with the spikes. We still have ZERO evidence that the virus (payload) causes anything bad.
ALL of this hype was intended for ONE purpose, to drive people to the needle out of FEAR. And now, the evidence that their injections DO cause disease, could not be any more OBVIOUS;-)
Funding gain of funtion and having the actual results of creating something new, are two different things...
Gain of function in the sense of the word, is not possible...
Obviously it was intentional. Anyone attempting to soft peddle this as an accident is trying to protect the perps.
Maybe whatever it is that they deployed, was only intended to assure they would get enough positives, so they could falsely blame every death on this virus. I am just saying,....maybe. They were clearly testing for a particle that is UBIQUITOUS, whether they played a role in making it so or not.
What evidence? Computer simulation?
Most people who "believe" the "virus" doesn't exist, likely actually do believe that it does when/if everyone is on the same page.
They just simply believe that it's an engineered poison being injected into people and not some "contagious" pandemic causing pathogen, so a little bit different take is all.
But until people comprehend that there was no pandemic caused by a pathogen before the shots then it's all moot anyway.
Until people can see that there were hardly any "true" excess deaths at all when using real numbers and not garbage CDC modeling data (and that the vast majority of those who did die let's just say, prematurely, did so due to protocols and not due to a pathogen "spreading" throughout the population), then any analysis conducted under such false pretenses is sure to be bunk as well.
There were never people "dying in the streets" like they tried to fear monger people into believing and long before the "shots" were even available to the general public at large many of us were warning people not to fall for this BS and certainly to never fall for getting yourself injected with their engineered bio-poison.
I guess we failed miserably on all accounts though because not only do people still "believe" there was in fact a pre-injection pandemic, but they actually ran out in huge numbers (hundreds of millions) and got themselves injected by anyone in scrubs at their local gas station, or wherever, just because the TV told them to.
Simply amazing.
Steve, why is it so important to prove this point? Isn't it more important to focus on the vaccine adverse events?
two reasons.... first off the evil greedy big pharma cartel NEEDS the virus myth to push all their "virus killing" drugs and vaccines...without the virus myth they would literally go broke...which would greatly benefit humanity...secondly...the virus myth is whats used to push vaccines which even Steve acknowledges are not only useless but also dangerous and would put an end to all of their fabricated plandemics..just look at the history of viral plandemics...its a never ending scam...
Hell has three gates: lust, anger and greed.
They chase broken glass in this sect, things of no value but they think they are so smart and such winners.
For the suffering they cause, they'll have to be born again and again to suffer. This is the law of Karma - the law of action and reaction or as "you shall sow so shall you reap."
The wisdom is the path to happiness, not the ignorance and arrogance.
BINGO!!!
It is important - this is why the stake is so high, so no one destroys the MYTH
See my challenge above Steve. You show your commitment. Burden of proof is on you. If viruses exist, show us virus in fluids taken directly from a sick person. Any virus. Covid or otherwise. Do this and you win. Cowan, Kaufman, Zeck, Lanka will admit defeat once you find someone to show us these images. Fail to do it, you lose. It’s simple and no reason you shouldn’t be able to show the world given your confidence. We’ll be waiting (a very long time)…
EXACTLY! It is the person making the claim that something is true, who must provide evidence of it's existence.
The person who says, "If you can't prove you were NOT dancing on your lawn at 3:30 am with a blue dildo up your arse, then this proves you WERE dancing around with that thing up your pooper" who is the bad guy. He's the one playing the role of the charlatan.
Not having evidence that something is untrue, is NOT evidence that it IS true.
I call bad form here.
Lol! There are a handful of common logical fallacies we see over and over again: ad hominem, affirming the consequent, and so on. And this one is so obvious. If you make a positive claim, logic dictates YOU must prove your claim. Steve, we’ll await your proof. And for gods sake don’t show us some study where they poison vero cells and show us the dead cell debris claiming it’s a virus. Just show us virus directly from some Covid snot. Easy.
Awesome! You nailed it.
I was once granted a legal finding of factual innocence, i.e., I was able to prove there was ZERO chance I could have committed a crime I was accused of. The court (over 100 years in business) admitted they had never before granted this type of petition , (Cal. Penal Code 851). Proving such a negative is close to impossible.
So now prove to me that you were NOT dancing naked on your back lawn with a purple dildo at 3:30 am last night. Prove it. If you cannot prove this, then you did it;-) THIS is very much how our justice system functions these days, particularly in the court of public opinion.
So bring on the pissing Russian hookers, who couldn't even give a DATE for the event. There is at least some chance you have an alibi for 3:30 am last night.
So here you are asking someone to prove the virus does NOT exist. You should offer a million dollars to anyone who can prove it DOES exist. If it does exist, it should be EASY to collect that money. In fact, you could bring it down to $20 and if it does exist, SOMEONE will be able to easily collect their $20 and make a fool of everyone who said it is not real.
Logic Steve. You are normally pretty good at it.
Btw - I will debate you for free, I don't care for this million. It is an obstacle to the debate, because we are not materially equal. But I would take an argument challenge.
According to Gates "It is not your fault you were born poor it is your fault to die poor." Well, depending on what makes a person rich. I would say to Gates - "Well, even if it was your fault you were born with poverty of heart but certainly you wasted your life if you die with poverty of your heart" - so wealth is relative.
I mean I will debate you but I HAVE NO 200 K to put in front of the debate - not that I lose it, but I can't offer of what I don't have - so you need to debate the rich.
If you truly want to debate, I will debate you with a PLEASURE and I will destroy your arguments
What are your credentials?
I am a genius
Who cares what his credentials are? Look at what the people with credentials have done to this world. It’s the people without credentials (credentials issued by those who control the entire medical paradigm) that I trust. F credentials.
Exactly, I have been asked so many times over last two years - BUT WHO ARE YOU? What are your credentials?
Well, I am actually a genius, it is true. It took me a a while to figure it all out.
I can say - I am immune to the virus - this is why Steve NEVER will debate me
Truth is one does t have to be a genius to win this debate. I’m certainly not but he can’t show me anywhere in the history of virology where anyone identifies the particles they call virus in a sample taken from a sick person. It’s an easy debate to win.
If I would have the money, I would debate him just for the pleasure of slaying this nonsense
I would go, over Steve's points and destroy them
Very simple - I am a genius - and they know it, Steve KNOWS it - that why HE WILL NEVER TAKE MY OFFER
Look, I would say like this:
As an act of his generosity, he could accept an offer from a poverty-stricken genius :)
He should take a serious offer for the debate's sake, not for money - do you think we should set up thresholds that are not possible to meet for a poor genius - but well, this world is a crazy place
Viruses are more complicated than most people have been led to believe by media or basic schooling. The subject of how much we really know about viruses and germ theory deserves more attention and discussion, but not here. If you want to debate the existence of viruses or germ theory, start a substack on it and hammer away at it. People that keep making this point on covid threads come across like Pfizer shills or feds to me.
two quick questions...are your "experts" that are confirming that the virus exists the same "experts" that conned you into getting the clot shot...and can you answer the five questions posed by Dr. Kaufman in this short video...if you are time constrained just go the 35 minute mark where the questions are presented...but I highly suggest watching the entire video as it also debunks the "pictures of the virus" claim...https://www.bitchute.com/video/rekrHZ52IKZy/
Yes, I will - I will debate you
I am outraged that you are outraged...must be contagious
Hopefully, hopefully
Tha_kanye_east has just under a million tik followers. Can you just try sponsoring him a little as I FED him David Martin's indictees & collaborated. I can make a better video with your slides too if you want to ad[d] input. The masses need to be reached and the pressure shall mount. That plus prayer to g-d goes the glory and triumph. Shabbat Shalom! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRDnCC84/?k=1
Since 1918 the reality of the deadly Spanish Flu virus was predominant until 2008 when the preserved samples from many victims of the deadly Spanish Flu virus were analyzed.
Results?
"...In 2008, he coauthored a study for the Journal of Infectious Disease confessing that virtually all of the “influenza” casualties in 1918 did not actually die from flu but from bacterial pneumonia and bronchial meningitis, which are, today, easily treated with antibiotics unavailable in 1918..."
“Predominant Role of Bacterial Pneumonia as a Cause of Death in Pandemic Influenza: Implications for Pandemic Influenza Preparedness”
David M.. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, Anthony S. Fauci
The Journal of Infectious Diseases, Volume 198, Issue 7, 1 October 2008, Pages 962–970, https://doi.org/10.1086/591708 Published 01 October 2008
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/198/7/962/2192118
Why wouldn't Anthony Fauci prepare for the next pandemic by stockpiling antibiotics?
Michael Yeadon could use the money.
It looks like Mike agrees with me that SARS CoV-2 was pieced together on genbank under instructions to find the nearest bat to match it to. That's how they came up with RaTG13. I remember the article that laid out the method used in obtaining the genetic links to RaTG13.
Mike suspects nothing leaked from a lab, or that it wasn't causing what's been called COVID.
It's like I've been harping on since 2019 when the virus was first announced. This was a psyop to get people to take transhuman, depopulation shots. As Mike says, COVID is just one part of a broad effort to usher in the NWO.
And here's the motive from the lips of Peter Daszak and Anthony Fauci.
Peter Daszak said at the National Academies for Science in 2015, and published in 2016:
"…until an infectious disease crisis is very real, present, and at an emergency threshold, it is often largely ignored. To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis … we need to increase public understanding of the need for [medical countermeasures] such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of process."
A video emerged where Fauci and others planned for a “Universal mRNA Flu Vaccine” which became the “COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine” because people were not afraid enough of the flu virus.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/bombshell-video-emerges-where-fauci-and-others-planned-for-a-universal-mrna-flu-vaccine-which-became-the-covid-19-mrna-vaccine-because-people-were-not-afraid-enough-of-the-flu-virus/
Remember, according to a social security whistleblower who grabbed copies of the U.S. Deaths master file, death by all causes remained unchanged by the end of 2019 - late 2020. I have read the CDC went back and altered that data to conceal that truth. I checked the reports when they first came out, the deaths were not statistically different from the 10 year average," as I recall.
The Chinese people dropping dead in Wuhan appeared to be staged. Doctors were failing to treat people with bacterial pneumonia. Mike found during 2020-2021, 50% of the antibiotics needed for bacterial pneumonia cases were used, meaning a lot of doctors simply were not treating it. We already know about deadly hospital protocols, like sending people home with respiratory distress, and telling them to come back when they're near death, but doing nothing to help them. Mike said these cases were easy to treat. He cites numerous doctors who developed successful protocols.
This is a great segment on by Michael Yeadon. Mike has lost family and friends due to his enlightenment about COVID. I really feel bad for the guy. He's doing his best to wake people up to the truth, that we're all going to lose our freedom if we don't start waking people up and doing something about it.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/2022/09/covid-pandemic-fraud-doctors-mike-yeadon-paul-alexander-video/#menu
The virus has never been shown to exist. Why does Steve let the perpetrators off the hook when it comes to the core lie/delusion behind "covid-19"?
And re Steve's disinfo campaign against me colleagues and I:
The real reason I now refuse to debate Steve Kirsch (hint: it’s not what Steve tells his readers):
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/why-i-now-refuse-to-debate-steve-kirsch-or-richard-fleming-or-kevin-mccairn/
The virus has never been shown to exist. Why does Steve let the perpetrators off the hook when it comes to the core lie/delusion behind "covid-19"?
And re Steve's disinfo campaign against me colleagues and I:
The real reason I now refuse to debate Steve Kirsch (hint: it’s not what Steve tells his readers):
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/why-i-now-refuse-to-debate-steve-kirsch-or-richard-fleming-or-kevin-mccairn/
Steve,
since these 1 milly bets are not being taken, would you consider paying for autopsies on some of the people suffering sudden or mysterious deaths?
autopsy where I live costs 2k-5k
Soooo, Mike Yeadon who has been very outspoken about Covid BS, and as you probably know is a former VP at Pfizer, just acknowledged he believes there is no such thing as a respiratory virus. Understand how difficult this must have been for Mike. This is a man who spent his entire career studying virology. I’ve been privy to email exchanges between Mike and some prominent scientists on the terrain (no virus) side. He fought back early but admitted shortcomings of virology. And then slowly came around as presumably he could no longer deny the obvious. Understand that there is ZERO chance Mike Yeadon would have publicly stated his new position unless he was absolutely certain. I hate appeals to authority but I think this is significant and will help others start to break down their own cognitive dissonance. I have so much respect for Mike and the courage it took to admit that for decades he was studying a fictional entity called a virus. He clung to this throughout the “pandemic” and only recently came out with this. Hopefully this link works for you. https://t.me/c/1546177402/4551
**Steve, maybe Mike will debate you. Something tells me you’d want no part of that one.
Here's another great video from Mike.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/2022/09/covid-pandemic-fraud-doctors-mike-yeadon-paul-alexander-video/#menu
1. Diseases are not caused by viruses or germs. Correct.
2. Flus, colds, ‘germs’, and other disease cannot be transmitted from person to person. Correct.
3. Spoiled food can result in bacteria making us sick, but is not transmissible from person to person. Not exactly... Bacteria do not make us sick. Bacteria are only present to consume dead and dying tissue.
4. Bacteria is not the same thing as a germ. It is real and can be viewed in a microscope without changing the substance of the sample. - Germ is a pretty generic term. Whether you think of germs as a virus (they dont exist) or bacteria (these are the good guys), there simply arent microscopic germs that make us sick. With a sickness, we usually think of symptoms. Runny nose, coughing, fever, swelling, etc. Most doctors are taught and therefore tell their patients that these symptoms ARE the illness. This is completely wrong. Symptoms are our body's beautiful way of detoxing itself. Symptoms are the cure! Yet we are told they are the disease. So what to MDs do? Give us pharmaceuticals to get rid of the symptoms!! And we wonder why despite all our advanced medical technologies we are one of the sickest countries on earth! Unfortunately, we live in a world surrounded by toxins: chemicals, cleaning supplies, herbicides, pesticides, we live in homes built with chemically treated lumber, plastics, overwhelming non native EMF's, vaccines... we are constantly ingesting toxins, breathing them in, bathing in them... so we get symptoms to detox. That's it. No bogeyman invisible germ that no one ever has seen. :)
5. Bacteria is not transmissible from person to person. - Bacteria is essentially omni present. There are literally trillions living in your body right now. They're everywhere. Kiss your wife and you'll exchange bacteria. But it won't make you sick.
6. No ‘virus’ is visible in a microscope (not even an electron miscroscope) without doing something to the sample to make it visible. - You're close. Even after they starve and poison monkey kidney cells mixed with fetal bovine serum and antibiotics, etc. they do not see a virus. They see particles created by the cell death that they caused, and call those particles a virus. Mysteriously, they CANNOT see these same particles in the sputum taken from a sick person.
7. No one in history has ever proven a ‘virus’ can be transmitted from person to person. Correct. Not even close. We only have bogus theories to explain epidemiological observations -- a bunch of people getting sick. We have nothing resembling proof.
8. The appearance of a virus in a prepared sample is the body’s expulsion of particles from toxins, contaminations, or other environmental injury. - No. See #6 if this is what you mean by prepared sample. If you mean sputum directly from a patient, they cannot see virus. They can get a positive PCR test. This is a long rabbit hole (PCR) but the simplest thing to consider is - given the fact they have NEVER seen or isolated a SARS-CoV-2 virus, what are they testing for? Well, they're testing for a match of a genetic sequence constructed in-silico (on a computer) based on one of these BS in-vitro cultures they do in a lab (see #6). To get this genetic sequence they upload a batch of data representing the various genetic material that appeared in this soup of monkey cells, bovine calf serum, etc. and even then, they can't build out the entire viral genome. So the computer fills in the gaps with likely missing links. So, they are LITERALLY testing for a sequence that has never appeared in nature. They readily admit this. I'll shut up on this one, but there's a lot more to say on PCR.
9. The PCR test doesn’t prove the existence of a virus, but may reveal the existence of a common set of symptoms caused by similar environmental factors or contamination. - Almost and maybe. Honestly, it doesn't matter what they are testing for or what the test shows once you realize where they get the original sequence from. It's literally a guess based on throwing a shit ton of data on genetic particles they found from their toxic lab soup into a computer, making up the missing pieces because they dont have a complete genome. PCR cant tell us anything about symptoms, but maybe it tells us commonalities humans have when experiencing detox/illness. Maybe our cells break down in the same way. Whatever it is, it doesnt matter because it definitely DOES NOT tell us we have a virus. So whatever it tells us, it ain't that! : )
10. It is still possible the appearance of COVID was caused by a biological or some other environmental weapon. - I do not think this is possible. We could all be poisoned by something, sure. Poison the water, the air, our electro-magnetic environment (The Invisible Rainbow is a MUST READ)...
But it's not a virus. Johns Hopkins gave a presentation in 2020 showing no excess deaths in the US. We are told the "virus" called the flu just disappeared and we just nod our heads like mindless zombies and just accept that that's true. There was no virus. Remdesivir, Ventilators, isolation, heartache, depression, and vaccines killed people. We all know noone dies from Covid at home right? Only in the hospital. This was all propaganda. Mass formation.
Hope this helps. Email me if you want to continue the convo - jthompclt@gmail.com
You should watch this documentary on AIDS. Same as covid, they just reclassified an already existing set of symptoms. Really good film-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgmzbnckII
You should watch House of Numbers on AIDS. Will blow your mind. They get into the lab tests, electron microscopy, everything I mention above on Covid. WIth AIDS, just like covid, they reclassified an already existing set of symptoms and called it AIDS. RFK Jr. actually has great insight on this. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgmzbnckII
The virus originated in the humans, animals and birds that God made.
It's gone through alterations in labs since the advent of vaccines.
The gene deletions were done with CRSPR.
Gene alterations happened from growing human cells together in immortalized animal or bird cells over decades in processes called vaccine attenuation of live viruses and Gain of Function research.
so they release a bioweapons with a 99percent survival rate? How idiotic are people to believe such nonsense
Following Hill's I found this. Two major symptoms of 2019-2020 COVID are old symptoms from H1N1.
h1n1 causes low oxygen saturation
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/rx/Swine-flu-patients-with-respiratory-failure-survive-with-oxygen/article16886400.ece
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091012121341.htm
h1n1 causes loss of taste and smell
https://www.practo.com/consult/losing-sense-of-smell-due-to-swine-flu-2-week-before-i-was-tested-my-blood-the-results-was-typhoid-and-swine-flu/q
https://www.raleighcapitolent.com/blog/lost-sense-of-smell
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-02-21-mn-44059-story.html
In 2019 the CDC announced the new influenza vaccines for 2019-2020 would have influenza A(h1N1,) and influenza B. I think we all know influenza vaccinated shed the virus. A couple of years ago I read they shed virus as much as 12x the rate of the vaccinated, it was posted on an autism website. I can't find the article now.
"virus"
Steve, Is there a video of virologists explaining the scientific method they use step by step to find any kind of viruses especially seasonal flu viruses. Can your team of experts make a video showing us laypeople how they find viruses from people with the common seasonal flu?
Steve,
I have written 40 blog chapters on THE CORONA CONSPIRACY, with special focus on virus denialists such as Icke, Kaufman, Cowan, Lanka, Bailey etc. (but including lab leak theories, Li Meng Yan, Fleming, McKairn).
I am interested in these three warring segments of society:
- STRONG VIRUS: mainstream science and politics
- WEAK VIRUS: science skeptics and alternative medicine
- NO VIRUS: viruses don't exist in the first place
The WEAK/STRONG controversy is widely covered in the media, but recently the NO VIRUS/WEAK VIRUS camps have started to raise their voices as well. I see you are taking a stand here for the WEAK VIRUS camp and challenge the NO VIRUS folks. Good for you.
Please check out: https://www.integralworld.net/visser211.html for my challenges to Stefan Lanka and company. This is a chapter from a two-volume series of books on corona conspiracies,
Frank Visser
Amsterdam
f.visser3@upcmail.nl
$1 million doesn’t buy peace of mind.
$1 million doesn’t buy integrity
$1 million doesn’t buy truth
$1 million doesn’t buy a million things
But they’re probably turning your offer down cause they’re cowards.
Mr Kirsch,
I don't mean disrespect, you sound very confident about the existence of viruses and specifically of COVID-19, so I was wondering:
what do you think about the "control" experiments of Prof Stefan Lanka, that show the following: following the customary and ONLY supposedly authorized method in virology of testing for any virus existence, ie.
A) by mixing other (bad for cell survival) things + the purported infected by virus sample
is indistringuishable from a control experiment of
B) by mixing other (bad for cell survival) things + known NOT-to-be infected (ie. healthy) sample.
Thus if A) and B) produce the same bad results for the cells (supposedly attributed to the virus), it certainly opens the door for the common part in A) and B), namely the mixing of other (bad for cell survival) things to actually be the cause of the purported effect normally attributed to the by-virus-infected sample.
Maybe you have another reasonable explanation for these control experiments, it'd be interesting to know how can you exclude the possibility of causation by the other-bad-for-cell-survival things...
https://odysee.com/@DeansDanes:1/cpe-english:f
But Steve....PATRICK GUNNELS who has his own "show" on Rumble says that YOU are a terrible, horrible, liar for even suggesting anyone can isolate the covid virus or any virus!! ..and he said he wrote into you and wants to debate you for a MILLION DOLLARS. Will you please let us know when you speak with him? I really want to watch/listen to this debate!
"Viruses are so small that they are best viewed using an electron microscope, which is how they were first visualized in the 1940s" There....start with that :-)