I want nothing to do with the Covid jabs and my kids certainly won’t be getting them under my roof. There are a fair number of the recommended vaccines that we already opted out of. But I’ve seen tetanus it’s ghastly. I’ve seen diphtheria and I’ve seen diphtheria lungs on necropsy. I’ve known mothers who lost babies to pertussis becau…
I want nothing to do with the Covid jabs and my kids certainly won’t be getting them under my roof. There are a fair number of the recommended vaccines that we already opted out of. But I’ve seen tetanus it’s ghastly. I’ve seen diphtheria and I’ve seen diphtheria lungs on necropsy. I’ve known mothers who lost babies to pertussis because they were too young to be vaccinated. I’ve read the cards and notes my grandmother’s schoolmates sent her when it looked like she might die of measles encephalitis and have some of her diary entries from when she finally recovered enough to write. My local museum has an iron lung on display that was practically worn out by the local hospital prior to the polio vaccine’s invention. So while I would definitely like more transparency and data and I think the current vaccine schedule is suspect, I want my children to have those vaccines. I am well aware of the possibility of vaccine reactions but as a parent I want to be the one making that cost benefit analysis given what I know about my own family’s genetic propensities and medical history as well as my child’s risk level based on our lifestyle. I don’t want anybody else taking that decision from me, not the government by forcing my to get whatever vaccines they want and not random people who want to impose their cost benefit analysis on me and mine.
#1: You're going under the false assumption that vaccines work.
#2: Absolutely, if YOU want to get vaccinated, have at it. As many and as often as you want. No problems here. But, so often people screech, scream and demand that everybody else has to do as they do; to protect THEM (or their kids). Makes no sense. Doesn't work that way. Right? No mandated shots for anyone including kids, correct?
#3: 'My local museum has an iron lung on display that was practically worn out by the local hospital prior to the polio vaccine’s invention'
Rethink this sentence above? and the rest of your examples? You're basing your decision to VACCINATE kids on emotion, if not outright hysteria. Am I wrong? I could pick most anything and present a hysterical reason as to why we should vaccinate for any/everything. Car accidents? HORRIFIC. Followed up by 'letters' from the surviving family members going into gruesome detail of the accident(s)
Fentanyl/Heroin/Meth addiction maiming and death? Gruesome. Taken step by step, even more gruesome. But what does that have to do with crappy (very dangerous) vaccines that don't work?
I, nor anybody, has stated nobody is going to suffer/die if we stop vaccines.
Bottom Line. In some ways, I'm with you. If you want vaccines, you should be able to take them. As long as you don't impose your opinions (key word) on others. Although I do cringe a little re: parents, using very sketchy (at best) data, who force kids to take very dangerous vaccines that don't work. But, that's my peccadillo, I guess.
1.) I am not under the false assumption that vaccines work, I know that certain vaccines, especially older vaccines do work. Historically you can absolutely look at population groups and watch vaccines result in either the outright eradication of diseases or see them go from a common occurrence to unheard of. Thanks to illegal immigration and anti-vax parents we can also see those diseases return with increasing numbers of unvaccinated children.
Plus it’s not like people are the only creatures on this planet that receive vaccines. I have seen vaccines prevent and stop outbreaks and disease in animals and I have seen a failure to vaccinate result in disease and death. Want to know why your average American doesn’t think twice about a stray dog on the street unless it’s an overwhelming desire to take it home and someone from the Middle East or India will freak out seeing a stray dog? It’s because rabies in dogs is practically unheard of in the US (thanks to heavy vaccination use) and it’s far more common in that part of the world.
2.) I have never ever pushed for others or their children to be forced to have vaccines, it should be a personal choice. I also think that there are definitely people for whom the vaccines do more harm than good and there certainly are people for whom the vaccines really do very little for them as an individual. Focusing on identifying who is in which group should be a goal of medicine rather than just slapping blanket recommendations or requirements on everyone. There seems to be some sort of genetic component to severe adverse vaccine reactions to the classic vaccines so yeah if you have a history of those problems in your family that might change your analysis and I don’t blame anyone for that. But when I can look at my own family history and we have had zero severe vaccine reactions or long lasting reactions and the family tree and oral history are littered with horror stories of illness and mortality in young children I’m going to do what I can to avoid measles. I just want people to be able to make their own choices.
3.) The iron lung isn’t an emotional example it’s the opposite it’s scientific evidence. My small town had a hospital that had enough children with polio to not only have an iron lung but to use it. They also have all sorts of pictures of kids in it and lists of some of the patients who used it. None of the doctors or nurses are around but some of the old timers still remember what that time was like. After mass vaccination with the polio vaccine started that machine went out of use immediately. These days it’s practically unheard of for a child to need assisted breathing in such a way and generally if they need that sort of airway support it’s due to some terrible accident and not disease. That machine is physical proof of the success of the polio vaccination program.
4.) Cars are an interesting example because I look at vaccines much like I look at seatbelts. Something that should be completely optional that I personally want to take advantage of. It’s a small thing that I can do to try and prevent death or severe disability, it’s no guarantee and there is a chance that my choice to try and protect myself is the very thing that killed me (there are car wrecks in which it’s better not to have a seatbelt) but I’m willing to play the odds on that. I don’t drink under the influence because of all the fear porn of wrecked cars I was shown in school and because I have seen people I personally know in similar wrecks. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I always wear a seatbelt and make anyone riding with me wear one because I knew a kid that got ejected from his truck and it rolled on him. Sure it’s an emotionally based decision but that doesn’t mean the decision is a bad one. Also for what it’s worth I think people should fear driving and be more respectful of it than they are. You are trying to control a couple of tons of metal and plastic hurling down roads often at 50-80 mph. Roads that have other people on them, often have weather related hazards as well as wildlife or other animals on them. The roads would be much safer if people took that responsibility seriously and remembered the gravity of what they were doing rather than becoming complacent or treating it like a game.
5.) There is a difference between thinking that vaccines that prevent deadly diseases have value and thinking that a vaccine can fix everything. Like I said in my original post there are vaccines my kids don’t get because I either don’t think the science supports it’s use or because I don’t think the disease is bad enough to warrant a vaccine. To be fair though the reason both medical professionals and the public want vaccines for everything is because it’s an easy answer. It’s easier to get a jab once every few years or even months than it is to do the hard work to get clean of an addiction or to live a clean and healthy lifestyle. The want to invent an easy solution to every problem is understandable but the utility of vaccines is quite limited and just because people want an easy fix doesn’t mean there is one.
As far as parents making their kids take dangerous vaccines that don’t work I think on a population level that’s of much less concern than the parents who feed their kids absolute garbage, let them have far too much screen time, and don’t make them get outside and get some exercise. It’s extremely unfortunate that parents are often making these decisions based on faulty data and that’s a serious problem. But the responsibility for such decisions always has been and always should be in the hands of parents.
I've read your whole post. Parts of it I agree with 100%. Good stuff.
Would you want to list the older vaccines that do work? With little to none causing (creating actually) -> illness, long term pain, deformation, maiming, death? Do they exist? I say no. I know you've mentioned tetanus; can you get this as tetanus alone? Or is the 2/3 in 1 jabber? Measles? any other 'older' vaccines?
Did you know that 98% of measles were wiped out (natural immunity) before the 1st measles vaccine hit the U.S. ?
Here's 2-3 (of many) that might be interesting to you .. or not :
#1: Majority of mumps cases are among the vaccinated, CDC finds
As many as 94 percent of children and adolescents who contracted the highly contagious virus had been vaccinated.
According to Dr. Gary Goldman, before the universal chickenpox or varicella vaccine was introduced in the USA in 1996, 95% of adults had experienced natural chickenpox, usually as children, and had life-long immunity. Subsequent exposures to natural chickenpox prevented or postponed shingles.
Childhood chickenpox vaccination programmes have increased the cases of shingles in adults by 100%. To counteract the dramatic increase in shingles cases, a shingles vaccine, Zostavax, was introduced.
After the introduction of the shingles vaccine, adults began falling ill with chickenpox – a childhood disease. Additionally, since the universal chickenpox vaccine was introduced, the high percentage of people with long-term immunity has been compromised.
Vaccination at best provides 70%-90% immunity that is temporary and of unknown duration making these children susceptible to chickenpox as adults. It has, therefore, shifted chickenpox to a more vulnerable adult population where chickenpox carries 15 times more risk of hospitalisation and 20 times more risk of death compared to children."
Vaccines play with, actually destroy, Mother Nature i.e. our SuperDuperComputer CNS. Bad idea, with disastrous results for the masses.
BS!!! Stay away from vaccines............ALL OF THEM!!!
"The medical authorities keep lying. Vaccination has been an assault on the immune system. It actually causes a lot of illnesses. We are actually changing our genetic code through vaccination.....100 years from now we will know that the biggest crime against humanity was vaccines."
-Dr Guylaine Lanctor author of "The Medical Mafia"
"Much of what you have been led to believe about immunization simply isn't true. If I were to follow my deeper convictions, I would urge you to reject all inoculations for your child....There in convincing scientific evidence that mass inoculations can be credited with eliminating any childhood disease"
-Dr Robert Mendelsohn author of "Confessions of a Medical Heretic"
"These chronic diseases, including hay fever, asthma, cancer, and AIDS, are the result of wrong interventions upon the organism by conventional medicine.....the immune systems of the Western population, through strong chemical drugs and repeated vaccinations, have broken down.....medicine, instead of curing diseases, is actually the cause of the degeneration of the human race"
-Dr Juan Manuel Martinez Mendez writing in the Aug/Sept 2004 Townsend Letter
You can believe and do what you want, I just want people to be able to make decisions for themselves. We have no history of any of the things you describe in my family despite multiple generations being “fully” vaccinated. What we do have a history of is measles meningitis, we live a lifestyle where we are constantly at risk of tetanus exposure, and I see no reason to let one of my children join those of my ancestors in an early grave due to pertussis or diphtheria. If my choice is between my kid developing allergies or measles meningitis it’s a pretty freaking easy choice to make. If I have to choose between risking asthma and diphtheria that is also an easy choice.
I agree that I think we underestimate the potential long term dangers of vaccines on the immune system and in a system where good health was actually of concern more science would be done to determine which people would benefit from which vaccines and the appropriate timing of them, but I also know enough about infectious disease and history to know that many of these diseases were devastating and should they become common place again they would still be devastating.
Choosing between allergies and measles meningitis is not the reality at all. This is what is known as the lesser of 2 evils propagada technique. Something you used repeatedly in a professional manner like a trained terrorist. I can not emphasise enough. This is not a scientific argument to support anything based on evidence but a ploy to poison children.
If you expect others to take your views seriously you should probably stop calling people terrorists just because they politely disagree with you. (Something I see you do regularly in this Substack.) Declaring every website on the planet part of the dark web doesn’t do much to support your views either.
I provided you with a number of scientific journals and historical evidence to support my views and you couldn’t even be bothered to read them. So do forgive me for writing you off as someone who simply cannot and will not have a serious conversation about the subject. I suppose you do have a point, I left hope and pray my kid has better luck than my grandma or the 400-500 kids who died annually of measles in the US prior to the invention of vaccines or the 100,000+ who still die of it globally off my list of choices.
Your crazy. I looked at your study and it was pseudoscience. Now you want me to look at more whilst telling me I didn't look at it. If the first study was pseudoscience what hope is there for the rest?None. I call entities terrorists based on their activity not what sounds good to them. I'm telling you I don't believe your story about 'your grandma'. It is anecdotal which you would critise others of in a second but then post spam all over the web with these anecdotal claims. In my opinion the childrens author Rohld Dahl was in trouble when 'vaccine' pushers realised he had a daughter who had 'measles'. They knew if she died it could be used to push their poison. That is your idea of 'science'. Ambush, hostage taking, terrorism. Emotional anecdotal propaganda.
A warning is required for national security purposes. What you are doing is off limits. A warning is for your protectiion and you refuse to warn and stop your terrorism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcY2QZbpcL0
As a 13 year Cancer survivor, I'm alive today because of Jesus Christ and avoiding doctors like the plague. Tell me Doc, when you prescribe a drug for a disease/symptom that causes side effects (and all drugs do) is that ethical? In the eyes of a doctor, yes, because that is what you have been trained to do. Because Medical schools teach nothing about nutrition/health doctors know NOTHING about healing people. They know how to recognize a symptom, treat the symptom (with drugs, vaccines, surgery, etc) and keep the patient coming back (when their prescription needs to be refiled) for most of their lives. This is NOT healthcare. THAT IS DISEASE CARE.......PERIOD!
As a 13 year cancer survivor I have seen medical ethics first hand with my Urologist screaming at me to take Chemo/Radiation or I would be dead within a year. I told him to take his chemo and shove it up his ass (and this idiot interned at the Mayo Clinic). This also proves doctors do NOT practice medicine. They do what they have been trained to do and go where the money is at even if the procedure only has a 2% success rate. I thank God that He opened my eyes to do my own research and beat this disease the way ANY disease can be beaten......by faith in God, eating right, exercise, and removing as many toxins from our lives as possible. And yes it is that easy. I bet you didn't know that going a a 3 day water fast can heal most diseases and a 10 day water fast will heal any disease. With around 70% of our immune system in our gut, the digestive system will shut down after 2 to 3 days with no food and the immune system will begin to attack any disease in the body and heal it. This is the way God designed the body to heal itself. But man in his infinite wisdom says a man-made pill/vaccine that is foreign to the body is the way to heal.....WRONG! This IS where doctors make their living and will continue to make their living..........pushing drugs/vaccines/procedures/tests to treat and mask a disease and never getting to the root cause of the problem.............IT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO DO and to do otherwise you WILL lose your medical license. I will NEVER set foot in a Doctor's office again unless it's an emergency!!!
I am not a human medical doctor so most of what you have written has nothing to do with me. I have never claimed that modern medicine is the be all end all or that every doctor is good. I am horrified by oncology and pretty much all handling of chronic diseases particularly chronic pain. I agree that a great many diseases and conditions would be better treated through diet, exercise, and lifestyle changes. However a good many people are unwilling to make such changes, I think it’s nice that people with Type 2 diabetes too lazy to eat healthy and exercise can live longer by taking insulin. I wish more would choose better diet and exercise but those people are entitled to make their own decisions.
However a ten day water fast isn’t going to cure rabies or tetanus. It certainly wasn’t going to cure my multi-system organ failure brought on by pregnancy complications. The simple fact of the matter is at any other time in history or in any place in the world without modern medical care my son and I both would have died.
Yes God can heal whoever He chooses but the Bible also tells us not to tempt the Lord our God. I do not think it’s coincidence that Luke was a physician as was St Valentine. Generally people of faith don’t do foolish things like close their eyes and walk across a busy interstate in an attempt to prove God’s sovereignty, completely avoiding modern medicine is no different, something you seem to agree with since you admit that you would seek help in an emergency.
You seem determined to make a bunch of generalizations and jump to conclusions, thinking that you want to avoid watching your child die an excruciating death via tetanus is quite different than thinking there aren’t any problems whatsoever with modern medicine.
What concerns me is that happens far too often with people being labeled as either anti-vax or followers of the vaccine cult. There definitely should be more discussion about the role of diet, exercise and lifestyle in disease especially chronic disease. There’s certainly important discussions to be had surrounding vaccines, their appropriate and inappropriate uses. However the Puritans lived faith filled lives free of modern medicine and processed foods where exercise was a necessity for survival let alone fitness and they still died of things like smallpox and measles and tetanus. If clean living and faith in God protected you from disease the history of the Puritans, Society of Friends, and many other Christian sects throughout history would be very different.
Most Doctors are hypocrites. They will say one thing but do another. Why? Because their hands are tied. They CANNOT practice medicine. The must do what our government and their administrators tell them. They must do what they been trained to do…prescribe drugs/vaccines and/or surgery for any sickness/disease. To do otherwise is to lose their license and their livelihood. Also, most are bought by and in bed with Big Pharma. A lot of Doctors get kick backs for pushing certain drugs/vaccines, especially new ones.
I have lost ALL trust in the Medical Profession when it comes to treating disease. Doctors know NOTHING about health. As a 13 year cancer survivor I KNOW!!! Doctors only know what they been trained to do which is to recognize the symptom/disease, treat it with surgery and/or drugs/vaccines and that's it!
You walk into any doctors office for any type of disease whether it be hypertension, type II diabetes, Parkinson's, etc, you WILL become a lifetime money maker for that doctor. He/she will put you on drugs for the rest of your life NEVER getting to the root cause of your disease and ALL drugs have side effects which compounds your problem and leads to more drugs.
As you can tell I have lost ALL faith in the medical system when it comes to treating disease. I believe doctors have their place which is in emergencies, trauma, injuries and some Pediatrics. But, when it comes to treating disease modern medicine is a complete FAILURE.
I want to live and to stay alive.........and to do so I WILL AVOID DOCTORS!!!!!!!!!!!
" Historically you can absolutely look at population groups and watch vaccines result in either the outright eradication of diseases or see them go from a common occurrence to unheard of. "
That is not how you do science. All you are looking at is manipulation of definitions. With 'polio' for example it is on record that statistics were manipulated. Similar methods were used for other 'vaccines' such as 'smallpox' being redefined 'chickenpox' and 'measles' etc:
"The fact that dubious tactics were used to fabricate efficacy rates was corroborated by Dr. Bernard Greenberg, chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of the American Public Health Association during the 1950s. His expert testimony was used as evidence during Congressional hearings in 1962. He cred- ited the “decline” of polio cases not to the vaccine, but rather to a change in the way doctors were required to report cases: “Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was do- ing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospi- talization... two examinations at least 24 hours apart was all that was required... In 1955 the criteria were changed... residual pa- ralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset... This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease... Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be refined. Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from poliomyelitis... Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic crite- ria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease... [52:96,97]” https://medicinekillsmillions.com/articles/pdf/Polio-decline-vaccine-dangers-cancer-AIDS-mad-cow-disease-Miller.pdf
The simple reclassification of disease doesn’t explain why the deaths and severe symptoms disappeared. If polio was simply reclassified as other things there would be no reason for the iron lung to be put out to pasture, it would simply be used in other types of patients. If smallpox simply got renamed then we should have seen deaths in whatever category those cases were reclassified to. If the reason rabies rates in humans have dropped 99% in North America and have dropped by massive amounts in Europe is due to different detection techniques then why didn’t rates fall similarly in much of the Middle East and Africa?
Miller is a hack which is why he quoted Farm Sanctuary about BSE and not anyone who could vaguely be considered knowledgeable let alone experts. Anyone who goes to animal rights nut jobs for information on animal health does not deserve to be taken seriously in any way.
It was Sister Kenny who helped 'polio' cases. It was in the farms due to some chemical poisoning. You can watch this film about her. She is who you admire not this Salk charachter out to steal credit. https://odysee.com/@Terra:42/Sister-Kenny-1946-Full-Movie:3
Want to know how many kids have been on ventilators or have been intubated in my local hospital in the last year? Zero.
Sister Kenny’s work revolutionized the treatment of polio and practically invented the field of rehabilitative medicine, something for which she is rightly celebrated. But nothing she did prevented patients from needing respiratory support, she treated polio she didn’t prevent it which is why even her center had an iron lung it used for patients.
How many cases of scurvy were treated in your local hospitall? Are you trying to embarass the 'vaccine' cult or is this actually a genuine attempt at 'science' on your part? The sort of training you have to draw wild conclusions using pseudoscience?
You do not believe scientific studies, so I thought maybe historical trends would speak more to your common sense as there isn’t a study on the planet that would convince you that you are wrong. But you also think tetanus only comes from rusty horseshoe nails and that horses are some sort of mysterious creature that nobody ever sees anymore and you think that a nun who did an amazing job treating the devastating effects of polio is somehow responsible for its practical eradication. So clearly appeals to common sense are also unfortunately out of the question.
I’m not part of the “vaccine” cult. I don’t like our current schedules, I think there are far too many vaccines out there that are of limited efficacy and we have absolutely no idea of the long term effects of these vaccines. In a better system the focus would be on who most benefits from specific vaccines based on risk factors, genetic factors, and immune system status, and then to determine what’s the least possible number of vaccines necessary to provide reasonable protection for said people. But I’m also not going to pretend that tetanus is a vitamin deficiency akin to scurvy or that smallpox didn’t go from wiping out a significant portion of the population of North America to literally unheard of. If you think that pollution and modern medicine is to blame for everything and that viruses don’t exist maybe go talk to a member of the Patuxet tribe about that. Oh wait you can’t because they all died of infectious diseases brought on by Europeans by 1622. They did so in a virgin land free of pollution or chemicals.
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I've noticed the flu and pneumonia shots seem ineffective at best. Before 2020 my dad bragged about being first to get the flu shot and he was always first to catch it I noticed. Same with that year we all caught pneumonia (January 2017.) Dad got his pneumonia shot and gave it to the rest of us because he caught it first.
Respiratory infections have a poor track record with shots. This was an excuse to use mRNA technology to permanently modify your natural system. I didn't understand the whole thing, but it sounded fishy from the start.
I know woman whose sister is in the military and she's required to get a flu shot every year, which gives her flu-like symptoms for two weeks. I guess from her perspective she might as well get the flu--I don't think they claim now it prevents transmission to others, and with the shot she gets the symptoms 100% of the time, even without coming down with the flu.
A great many of the vaccines available and pushed are in my opinion questionable at best and yes many of those are respiratory in nature. Coronaviruses in any species have been notoriously difficult to control via vaccination even those that are non-respiratory in nature. So I agree I have always been skeptical of these vaccines particularly with the mRNA vaccines as this has never made medical or scientific sense from the get go. But I’m not going to watch my kid die of tetanus because the influenza vaccine is garbage or the Covid vaccine is probably a bio weapon.
There is no "tetanus vaccine". There is Tdap/ DTap. Stepping on rusty nails was from a time when horse droppings might be around. Have you seen any horses recently? Even if there was horses is there really any evidence to support this 'vaccine' working or taking 'pertissis' with it? Pertussis is one of the worst jabs for a 'disease' that had declined to 9 deaths a year in the 80s.
I see horses literally every day of my life (which is why it’s so important to keep lifestyle in mind) also that’s far from the only place one can get tetanus and yes you can opt out of the TDAp and request a straight tetanus vaccine. The pertussis vaccine came out in 1914, the combo vaccine was available in the 1940s so the decline in the disease points to the success of the vaccine not a lack of a need for it.
Not sure I agree that parents should have a right to order their children around, but apart from that very interesting, reasonable and well written, thank you. One question, if you have time to answer, have you read "Turtles All The Way Down" and, if so, can you summarize your opinion?
By children I specifically mean underage children, someone has to “order them around” or otherwise be responsible for their well-being and while parents are far from perfect I trust them more than I trust a government or healthcare entity to make such choices. No I haven’t read Turtles All the Way Down. It’s on my reading list but it’s a long list so it will probably be a while.
That is not how you do science. Someone could say it was melting icecaps responsible and have as much evidence as you gave. More really coz most decline was before the poison injection. Have you not thought about charging back your 'health insurance' yet? It is anti terrorism. You could switch sides. You would have the chargeback document. An early one. Be a heroin of the movement. What could be better? Or do you want to get raked on the coals?
You are welcome to see physicians and hospitals however you want and you are welcome to avoid them. It’s an understandable response even if it’s not my own response.
I think the only justice to be seen here is eternal justice, there’s little change of any earthly justice occurring.
You are welcome to wake up and stop letting people get away with murder.
The covid shots are the same as shooting a gun into a crowd. 99.7% will live... BUT IT IS STILL MURDER.
Remdesivir is like feeding someone a poisoned apple. "Dr." Tara. Wake up. It is murder... Many people should be in prison. Soft people like you are allowing murder to happen.
Many people should be in prison, but they won’t be. There isn’t a court on the planet that’s going to convict any of these people and they certainly won’t see any jail time. I’m not soft I’m just not stupid. Name me a single time in history when people were actually held accountable for these sorts of medical atrocities. Most of the Nazis got away with it and the higher ups that were held accountable were made to do so mostly by Mossad. The US government happily welcomed many of them into the scientific community in America.
How many of the people responsible for the Tuskegee experiments were jailed? Or even fired?
The only hope for justice in this world is vigilante justice and that is absolutely not something I am partaking in and since I haven’t heard anything on the news I’m guessing it’s something you aren’t up to either and for good reason.
Cancel your 'health insurance'. Sponsoring terrorism is a felony. Do you really believe you will get away with it when there is terrorists in your reality that you are sponsoring to kill you? No, you need to cancel now. Everyone needs to cancel now.
Well since my insurance is through the US government I don’t disagree that those in charge of it are guilty of terrorism. However by your reckoning every American taxpayer is guilty of sponsoring terrorism, federal tax evasion is also a felony. So if you can figure out a way to legally get out of paying federal income tax (and other federal taxes) I will drop my health insurance in a heartbeat and switch to a cost share program which is my preference anyway. But I can’t afford a cost share program because taxes etc eat up 20% of my paycheck. So you work out a way to keep that 20% in my bank account and I will do my part to bring down the health insurance industry.
Have you talked to your bank about charging back funds going to terrorists? They have to retrieve any funds that are going thru the bank to terrorism. Lives could be lost if they do not return the funds and continue aiding the terrorists. You said " I don’t disagree that those in charge of it are guilty of terrorism" What have you done to stop these financial flows from your account?
Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I do not pay for health insurance. My health insurance is provided via the US government through taxpayer dollars. So some of my federal tax money goes to those programs just like some of it goes to fund the war in Ukraine and a million other stupid programs. But your tax dollars and the federal tax dollars of every American also pays for it. I think it’s safe to say my local bankers would agree that our federal income taxes finance terrorism perpetrated by the government. However for some reason that whole going to prison for tax fraud and evasion keeps them from acting on those convictions which to be fair is also why I pay my taxes in the first place. So if you want to stop the terrorists that run my health insurance all you have to do is quit paying any federal taxes. I don’t recommend it but you do you.
I want nothing to do with the Covid jabs and my kids certainly won’t be getting them under my roof. There are a fair number of the recommended vaccines that we already opted out of. But I’ve seen tetanus it’s ghastly. I’ve seen diphtheria and I’ve seen diphtheria lungs on necropsy. I’ve known mothers who lost babies to pertussis because they were too young to be vaccinated. I’ve read the cards and notes my grandmother’s schoolmates sent her when it looked like she might die of measles encephalitis and have some of her diary entries from when she finally recovered enough to write. My local museum has an iron lung on display that was practically worn out by the local hospital prior to the polio vaccine’s invention. So while I would definitely like more transparency and data and I think the current vaccine schedule is suspect, I want my children to have those vaccines. I am well aware of the possibility of vaccine reactions but as a parent I want to be the one making that cost benefit analysis given what I know about my own family’s genetic propensities and medical history as well as my child’s risk level based on our lifestyle. I don’t want anybody else taking that decision from me, not the government by forcing my to get whatever vaccines they want and not random people who want to impose their cost benefit analysis on me and mine.
Three points.
#1: You're going under the false assumption that vaccines work.
#2: Absolutely, if YOU want to get vaccinated, have at it. As many and as often as you want. No problems here. But, so often people screech, scream and demand that everybody else has to do as they do; to protect THEM (or their kids). Makes no sense. Doesn't work that way. Right? No mandated shots for anyone including kids, correct?
#3: 'My local museum has an iron lung on display that was practically worn out by the local hospital prior to the polio vaccine’s invention'
Rethink this sentence above? and the rest of your examples? You're basing your decision to VACCINATE kids on emotion, if not outright hysteria. Am I wrong? I could pick most anything and present a hysterical reason as to why we should vaccinate for any/everything. Car accidents? HORRIFIC. Followed up by 'letters' from the surviving family members going into gruesome detail of the accident(s)
Fentanyl/Heroin/Meth addiction maiming and death? Gruesome. Taken step by step, even more gruesome. But what does that have to do with crappy (very dangerous) vaccines that don't work?
I, nor anybody, has stated nobody is going to suffer/die if we stop vaccines.
Bottom Line. In some ways, I'm with you. If you want vaccines, you should be able to take them. As long as you don't impose your opinions (key word) on others. Although I do cringe a little re: parents, using very sketchy (at best) data, who force kids to take very dangerous vaccines that don't work. But, that's my peccadillo, I guess.
1.) I am not under the false assumption that vaccines work, I know that certain vaccines, especially older vaccines do work. Historically you can absolutely look at population groups and watch vaccines result in either the outright eradication of diseases or see them go from a common occurrence to unheard of. Thanks to illegal immigration and anti-vax parents we can also see those diseases return with increasing numbers of unvaccinated children.
Plus it’s not like people are the only creatures on this planet that receive vaccines. I have seen vaccines prevent and stop outbreaks and disease in animals and I have seen a failure to vaccinate result in disease and death. Want to know why your average American doesn’t think twice about a stray dog on the street unless it’s an overwhelming desire to take it home and someone from the Middle East or India will freak out seeing a stray dog? It’s because rabies in dogs is practically unheard of in the US (thanks to heavy vaccination use) and it’s far more common in that part of the world.
2.) I have never ever pushed for others or their children to be forced to have vaccines, it should be a personal choice. I also think that there are definitely people for whom the vaccines do more harm than good and there certainly are people for whom the vaccines really do very little for them as an individual. Focusing on identifying who is in which group should be a goal of medicine rather than just slapping blanket recommendations or requirements on everyone. There seems to be some sort of genetic component to severe adverse vaccine reactions to the classic vaccines so yeah if you have a history of those problems in your family that might change your analysis and I don’t blame anyone for that. But when I can look at my own family history and we have had zero severe vaccine reactions or long lasting reactions and the family tree and oral history are littered with horror stories of illness and mortality in young children I’m going to do what I can to avoid measles. I just want people to be able to make their own choices.
3.) The iron lung isn’t an emotional example it’s the opposite it’s scientific evidence. My small town had a hospital that had enough children with polio to not only have an iron lung but to use it. They also have all sorts of pictures of kids in it and lists of some of the patients who used it. None of the doctors or nurses are around but some of the old timers still remember what that time was like. After mass vaccination with the polio vaccine started that machine went out of use immediately. These days it’s practically unheard of for a child to need assisted breathing in such a way and generally if they need that sort of airway support it’s due to some terrible accident and not disease. That machine is physical proof of the success of the polio vaccination program.
4.) Cars are an interesting example because I look at vaccines much like I look at seatbelts. Something that should be completely optional that I personally want to take advantage of. It’s a small thing that I can do to try and prevent death or severe disability, it’s no guarantee and there is a chance that my choice to try and protect myself is the very thing that killed me (there are car wrecks in which it’s better not to have a seatbelt) but I’m willing to play the odds on that. I don’t drink under the influence because of all the fear porn of wrecked cars I was shown in school and because I have seen people I personally know in similar wrecks. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I always wear a seatbelt and make anyone riding with me wear one because I knew a kid that got ejected from his truck and it rolled on him. Sure it’s an emotionally based decision but that doesn’t mean the decision is a bad one. Also for what it’s worth I think people should fear driving and be more respectful of it than they are. You are trying to control a couple of tons of metal and plastic hurling down roads often at 50-80 mph. Roads that have other people on them, often have weather related hazards as well as wildlife or other animals on them. The roads would be much safer if people took that responsibility seriously and remembered the gravity of what they were doing rather than becoming complacent or treating it like a game.
5.) There is a difference between thinking that vaccines that prevent deadly diseases have value and thinking that a vaccine can fix everything. Like I said in my original post there are vaccines my kids don’t get because I either don’t think the science supports it’s use or because I don’t think the disease is bad enough to warrant a vaccine. To be fair though the reason both medical professionals and the public want vaccines for everything is because it’s an easy answer. It’s easier to get a jab once every few years or even months than it is to do the hard work to get clean of an addiction or to live a clean and healthy lifestyle. The want to invent an easy solution to every problem is understandable but the utility of vaccines is quite limited and just because people want an easy fix doesn’t mean there is one.
As far as parents making their kids take dangerous vaccines that don’t work I think on a population level that’s of much less concern than the parents who feed their kids absolute garbage, let them have far too much screen time, and don’t make them get outside and get some exercise. It’s extremely unfortunate that parents are often making these decisions based on faulty data and that’s a serious problem. But the responsibility for such decisions always has been and always should be in the hands of parents.
I've read your whole post. Parts of it I agree with 100%. Good stuff.
Would you want to list the older vaccines that do work? With little to none causing (creating actually) -> illness, long term pain, deformation, maiming, death? Do they exist? I say no. I know you've mentioned tetanus; can you get this as tetanus alone? Or is the 2/3 in 1 jabber? Measles? any other 'older' vaccines?
Did you know that 98% of measles were wiped out (natural immunity) before the 1st measles vaccine hit the U.S. ?
Here's 2-3 (of many) that might be interesting to you .. or not :
#1: Majority of mumps cases are among the vaccinated, CDC finds
As many as 94 percent of children and adolescents who contracted the highly contagious virus had been vaccinated.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/majority-mumps-cases-are-vaccinated-cdc-finds-rcna6482
#2: Measles AND mumps infection could save millions of lives.
https://thedrswolfson.com/measles-and-mumps-infection-could-save-millions-of-lives/
#3:
a: Chickenpox vaccine for kids causes shingles when older.
b: Shingles vaccines for adults cause Chickenpox.
What a hoot, huh?
https://expose-news.com/2023/03/02/chickenpox-vaccines-result-in-outbreaks-of-shingles/
According to Dr. Gary Goldman, before the universal chickenpox or varicella vaccine was introduced in the USA in 1996, 95% of adults had experienced natural chickenpox, usually as children, and had life-long immunity. Subsequent exposures to natural chickenpox prevented or postponed shingles.
Childhood chickenpox vaccination programmes have increased the cases of shingles in adults by 100%. To counteract the dramatic increase in shingles cases, a shingles vaccine, Zostavax, was introduced.
After the introduction of the shingles vaccine, adults began falling ill with chickenpox – a childhood disease. Additionally, since the universal chickenpox vaccine was introduced, the high percentage of people with long-term immunity has been compromised.
Vaccination at best provides 70%-90% immunity that is temporary and of unknown duration making these children susceptible to chickenpox as adults. It has, therefore, shifted chickenpox to a more vulnerable adult population where chickenpox carries 15 times more risk of hospitalisation and 20 times more risk of death compared to children."
Vaccines play with, actually destroy, Mother Nature i.e. our SuperDuperComputer CNS. Bad idea, with disastrous results for the masses.
BS!!! Stay away from vaccines............ALL OF THEM!!!
"The medical authorities keep lying. Vaccination has been an assault on the immune system. It actually causes a lot of illnesses. We are actually changing our genetic code through vaccination.....100 years from now we will know that the biggest crime against humanity was vaccines."
-Dr Guylaine Lanctor author of "The Medical Mafia"
"Much of what you have been led to believe about immunization simply isn't true. If I were to follow my deeper convictions, I would urge you to reject all inoculations for your child....There in convincing scientific evidence that mass inoculations can be credited with eliminating any childhood disease"
-Dr Robert Mendelsohn author of "Confessions of a Medical Heretic"
"These chronic diseases, including hay fever, asthma, cancer, and AIDS, are the result of wrong interventions upon the organism by conventional medicine.....the immune systems of the Western population, through strong chemical drugs and repeated vaccinations, have broken down.....medicine, instead of curing diseases, is actually the cause of the degeneration of the human race"
-Dr Juan Manuel Martinez Mendez writing in the Aug/Sept 2004 Townsend Letter
The Truth About Vaccinations – History and Hoax
https://thetruthaboutvaccines.com/the-truth-about-vaccinations/
Vaccine Ingredients and Vaccine Secrets
https://healthwyze.org/reports/60-vaccine-secrets
The Poisoned Needle - Eleanor McBean:
HTTPS://THEBIGVIRUSHOAX.COM/THE-POISONED-NEEDLE
https://archive.org/details/the-poisoned-needle-eleanor-mc-bean/page/n11/mode/2up
VAXXED VS. UNVAXXED: A STUDY FINALLY PROVES UNVACCINATED CHILDREN ARE HEALTHIER
https://thefamilythathealstogether.com/vaxxed-vs-unvaxxed-are-unvaccinated-children-healthier-than-those-who-are-vaccinated/
10 Most SURPRISING and DANGEROUS ingredients in vaccines, and the industry’s poor explanations for why they’re used
https://www.dcclothesline.com/2022/12/08/10-most-surprising-and-dangerous-ingredients-in-vaccines-and-the-industrys-poor-explanations-for-why-theyre-used/
Dr. Andrew Moulden: All Vaccines Cause Ischemia (Impaired Blood Flow) Which Blocks Oxygen Delivery Leading to Chronic Disease
https://educate-yourself.org/cn/All-Vaccines-Cause-Ischemia-(Impaired-Blood-Flow)-Which-Blocks-Oxygen-Delivery22jul15.shtml#top
https://thevaccinereaction.org/
https://www.vaccinesandchristianity.org/
Vaccination industry in a nutshell
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/vaccination-industry-in-a-nutshell/
https://odysee.com/@drsuzanneh:f
You can believe and do what you want, I just want people to be able to make decisions for themselves. We have no history of any of the things you describe in my family despite multiple generations being “fully” vaccinated. What we do have a history of is measles meningitis, we live a lifestyle where we are constantly at risk of tetanus exposure, and I see no reason to let one of my children join those of my ancestors in an early grave due to pertussis or diphtheria. If my choice is between my kid developing allergies or measles meningitis it’s a pretty freaking easy choice to make. If I have to choose between risking asthma and diphtheria that is also an easy choice.
I agree that I think we underestimate the potential long term dangers of vaccines on the immune system and in a system where good health was actually of concern more science would be done to determine which people would benefit from which vaccines and the appropriate timing of them, but I also know enough about infectious disease and history to know that many of these diseases were devastating and should they become common place again they would still be devastating.
Choosing between allergies and measles meningitis is not the reality at all. This is what is known as the lesser of 2 evils propagada technique. Something you used repeatedly in a professional manner like a trained terrorist. I can not emphasise enough. This is not a scientific argument to support anything based on evidence but a ploy to poison children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WewTpcOAJu8
If you expect others to take your views seriously you should probably stop calling people terrorists just because they politely disagree with you. (Something I see you do regularly in this Substack.) Declaring every website on the planet part of the dark web doesn’t do much to support your views either.
I provided you with a number of scientific journals and historical evidence to support my views and you couldn’t even be bothered to read them. So do forgive me for writing you off as someone who simply cannot and will not have a serious conversation about the subject. I suppose you do have a point, I left hope and pray my kid has better luck than my grandma or the 400-500 kids who died annually of measles in the US prior to the invention of vaccines or the 100,000+ who still die of it globally off my list of choices.
Your crazy. I looked at your study and it was pseudoscience. Now you want me to look at more whilst telling me I didn't look at it. If the first study was pseudoscience what hope is there for the rest?None. I call entities terrorists based on their activity not what sounds good to them. I'm telling you I don't believe your story about 'your grandma'. It is anecdotal which you would critise others of in a second but then post spam all over the web with these anecdotal claims. In my opinion the childrens author Rohld Dahl was in trouble when 'vaccine' pushers realised he had a daughter who had 'measles'. They knew if she died it could be used to push their poison. That is your idea of 'science'. Ambush, hostage taking, terrorism. Emotional anecdotal propaganda.
A warning is required for national security purposes. What you are doing is off limits. A warning is for your protectiion and you refuse to warn and stop your terrorism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcY2QZbpcL0
I sincerely hope you get the help you need, you are clearly not well.
Reputation precedes me. They told you I'm crazy. I swear I don't love the drama, it loves me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfnCAmr569k
As a 13 year Cancer survivor, I'm alive today because of Jesus Christ and avoiding doctors like the plague. Tell me Doc, when you prescribe a drug for a disease/symptom that causes side effects (and all drugs do) is that ethical? In the eyes of a doctor, yes, because that is what you have been trained to do. Because Medical schools teach nothing about nutrition/health doctors know NOTHING about healing people. They know how to recognize a symptom, treat the symptom (with drugs, vaccines, surgery, etc) and keep the patient coming back (when their prescription needs to be refiled) for most of their lives. This is NOT healthcare. THAT IS DISEASE CARE.......PERIOD!
As a 13 year cancer survivor I have seen medical ethics first hand with my Urologist screaming at me to take Chemo/Radiation or I would be dead within a year. I told him to take his chemo and shove it up his ass (and this idiot interned at the Mayo Clinic). This also proves doctors do NOT practice medicine. They do what they have been trained to do and go where the money is at even if the procedure only has a 2% success rate. I thank God that He opened my eyes to do my own research and beat this disease the way ANY disease can be beaten......by faith in God, eating right, exercise, and removing as many toxins from our lives as possible. And yes it is that easy. I bet you didn't know that going a a 3 day water fast can heal most diseases and a 10 day water fast will heal any disease. With around 70% of our immune system in our gut, the digestive system will shut down after 2 to 3 days with no food and the immune system will begin to attack any disease in the body and heal it. This is the way God designed the body to heal itself. But man in his infinite wisdom says a man-made pill/vaccine that is foreign to the body is the way to heal.....WRONG! This IS where doctors make their living and will continue to make their living..........pushing drugs/vaccines/procedures/tests to treat and mask a disease and never getting to the root cause of the problem.............IT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO DO and to do otherwise you WILL lose your medical license. I will NEVER set foot in a Doctor's office again unless it's an emergency!!!
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I am not a human medical doctor so most of what you have written has nothing to do with me. I have never claimed that modern medicine is the be all end all or that every doctor is good. I am horrified by oncology and pretty much all handling of chronic diseases particularly chronic pain. I agree that a great many diseases and conditions would be better treated through diet, exercise, and lifestyle changes. However a good many people are unwilling to make such changes, I think it’s nice that people with Type 2 diabetes too lazy to eat healthy and exercise can live longer by taking insulin. I wish more would choose better diet and exercise but those people are entitled to make their own decisions.
However a ten day water fast isn’t going to cure rabies or tetanus. It certainly wasn’t going to cure my multi-system organ failure brought on by pregnancy complications. The simple fact of the matter is at any other time in history or in any place in the world without modern medical care my son and I both would have died.
Yes God can heal whoever He chooses but the Bible also tells us not to tempt the Lord our God. I do not think it’s coincidence that Luke was a physician as was St Valentine. Generally people of faith don’t do foolish things like close their eyes and walk across a busy interstate in an attempt to prove God’s sovereignty, completely avoiding modern medicine is no different, something you seem to agree with since you admit that you would seek help in an emergency.
You seem determined to make a bunch of generalizations and jump to conclusions, thinking that you want to avoid watching your child die an excruciating death via tetanus is quite different than thinking there aren’t any problems whatsoever with modern medicine.
What concerns me is that happens far too often with people being labeled as either anti-vax or followers of the vaccine cult. There definitely should be more discussion about the role of diet, exercise and lifestyle in disease especially chronic disease. There’s certainly important discussions to be had surrounding vaccines, their appropriate and inappropriate uses. However the Puritans lived faith filled lives free of modern medicine and processed foods where exercise was a necessity for survival let alone fitness and they still died of things like smallpox and measles and tetanus. If clean living and faith in God protected you from disease the history of the Puritans, Society of Friends, and many other Christian sects throughout history would be very different.
Most Doctors are hypocrites. They will say one thing but do another. Why? Because their hands are tied. They CANNOT practice medicine. The must do what our government and their administrators tell them. They must do what they been trained to do…prescribe drugs/vaccines and/or surgery for any sickness/disease. To do otherwise is to lose their license and their livelihood. Also, most are bought by and in bed with Big Pharma. A lot of Doctors get kick backs for pushing certain drugs/vaccines, especially new ones.
I have lost ALL trust in the Medical Profession when it comes to treating disease. Doctors know NOTHING about health. As a 13 year cancer survivor I KNOW!!! Doctors only know what they been trained to do which is to recognize the symptom/disease, treat it with surgery and/or drugs/vaccines and that's it!
You walk into any doctors office for any type of disease whether it be hypertension, type II diabetes, Parkinson's, etc, you WILL become a lifetime money maker for that doctor. He/she will put you on drugs for the rest of your life NEVER getting to the root cause of your disease and ALL drugs have side effects which compounds your problem and leads to more drugs.
As you can tell I have lost ALL faith in the medical system when it comes to treating disease. I believe doctors have their place which is in emergencies, trauma, injuries and some Pediatrics. But, when it comes to treating disease modern medicine is a complete FAILURE.
I want to live and to stay alive.........and to do so I WILL AVOID DOCTORS!!!!!!!!!!!
" Historically you can absolutely look at population groups and watch vaccines result in either the outright eradication of diseases or see them go from a common occurrence to unheard of. "
That is not how you do science. All you are looking at is manipulation of definitions. With 'polio' for example it is on record that statistics were manipulated. Similar methods were used for other 'vaccines' such as 'smallpox' being redefined 'chickenpox' and 'measles' etc:
"The fact that dubious tactics were used to fabricate efficacy rates was corroborated by Dr. Bernard Greenberg, chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of the American Public Health Association during the 1950s. His expert testimony was used as evidence during Congressional hearings in 1962. He cred- ited the “decline” of polio cases not to the vaccine, but rather to a change in the way doctors were required to report cases: “Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was do- ing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospi- talization... two examinations at least 24 hours apart was all that was required... In 1955 the criteria were changed... residual pa- ralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset... This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease... Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be refined. Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from poliomyelitis... Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic crite- ria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease... [52:96,97]” https://medicinekillsmillions.com/articles/pdf/Polio-decline-vaccine-dangers-cancer-AIDS-mad-cow-disease-Miller.pdf
The simple reclassification of disease doesn’t explain why the deaths and severe symptoms disappeared. If polio was simply reclassified as other things there would be no reason for the iron lung to be put out to pasture, it would simply be used in other types of patients. If smallpox simply got renamed then we should have seen deaths in whatever category those cases were reclassified to. If the reason rabies rates in humans have dropped 99% in North America and have dropped by massive amounts in Europe is due to different detection techniques then why didn’t rates fall similarly in much of the Middle East and Africa?
Miller is a hack which is why he quoted Farm Sanctuary about BSE and not anyone who could vaguely be considered knowledgeable let alone experts. Anyone who goes to animal rights nut jobs for information on animal health does not deserve to be taken seriously in any way.
Don't believe everything you read in your medical journals. The Polio vaccines did NOT eradicate Polio like we've been told.
American Pravda: Vaccines and the Mystery of Polio
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-vaccines-and-the-mystery-of-polio/
The Inventor of the Polio Vaccine Wanted To Depopulate the World
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-inventor-of-the-polio-vaccine
The Poisoned Needle - Eleanor McBean:
HTTPS://THEBIGVIRUSHOAX.COM/THE-POISONED-NEEDLE
https://archive.org/details/the-poisoned-needle-eleanor-mc-bean/page/n11/mode/2up
Iron lung is called a ventilator these days. There is worse. It is called intubation. Before you believe that polio has been eradicated, have a look at this graph of AFP and Polio: https://drsuzanne.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Smoke-Mirrors-and-the-%E2%80%9CDisappearance%E2%80%9D-Of-Polio-_-International-Medical-Council.pdf
It was Sister Kenny who helped 'polio' cases. It was in the farms due to some chemical poisoning. You can watch this film about her. She is who you admire not this Salk charachter out to steal credit. https://odysee.com/@Terra:42/Sister-Kenny-1946-Full-Movie:3
Want to know how many kids have been on ventilators or have been intubated in my local hospital in the last year? Zero.
Sister Kenny’s work revolutionized the treatment of polio and practically invented the field of rehabilitative medicine, something for which she is rightly celebrated. But nothing she did prevented patients from needing respiratory support, she treated polio she didn’t prevent it which is why even her center had an iron lung it used for patients.
How many cases of scurvy were treated in your local hospitall? Are you trying to embarass the 'vaccine' cult or is this actually a genuine attempt at 'science' on your part? The sort of training you have to draw wild conclusions using pseudoscience?
You do not believe scientific studies, so I thought maybe historical trends would speak more to your common sense as there isn’t a study on the planet that would convince you that you are wrong. But you also think tetanus only comes from rusty horseshoe nails and that horses are some sort of mysterious creature that nobody ever sees anymore and you think that a nun who did an amazing job treating the devastating effects of polio is somehow responsible for its practical eradication. So clearly appeals to common sense are also unfortunately out of the question.
I’m not part of the “vaccine” cult. I don’t like our current schedules, I think there are far too many vaccines out there that are of limited efficacy and we have absolutely no idea of the long term effects of these vaccines. In a better system the focus would be on who most benefits from specific vaccines based on risk factors, genetic factors, and immune system status, and then to determine what’s the least possible number of vaccines necessary to provide reasonable protection for said people. But I’m also not going to pretend that tetanus is a vitamin deficiency akin to scurvy or that smallpox didn’t go from wiping out a significant portion of the population of North America to literally unheard of. If you think that pollution and modern medicine is to blame for everything and that viruses don’t exist maybe go talk to a member of the Patuxet tribe about that. Oh wait you can’t because they all died of infectious diseases brought on by Europeans by 1622. They did so in a virgin land free of pollution or chemicals.
Where are these scientific studies? You only have pseudoscience which is why you have nothing to post. A terrorist in plain English.
Let me know when you get through with these how many more of which diseases I can get for you.
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I've noticed the flu and pneumonia shots seem ineffective at best. Before 2020 my dad bragged about being first to get the flu shot and he was always first to catch it I noticed. Same with that year we all caught pneumonia (January 2017.) Dad got his pneumonia shot and gave it to the rest of us because he caught it first.
Respiratory infections have a poor track record with shots. This was an excuse to use mRNA technology to permanently modify your natural system. I didn't understand the whole thing, but it sounded fishy from the start.
I know woman whose sister is in the military and she's required to get a flu shot every year, which gives her flu-like symptoms for two weeks. I guess from her perspective she might as well get the flu--I don't think they claim now it prevents transmission to others, and with the shot she gets the symptoms 100% of the time, even without coming down with the flu.
A great many of the vaccines available and pushed are in my opinion questionable at best and yes many of those are respiratory in nature. Coronaviruses in any species have been notoriously difficult to control via vaccination even those that are non-respiratory in nature. So I agree I have always been skeptical of these vaccines particularly with the mRNA vaccines as this has never made medical or scientific sense from the get go. But I’m not going to watch my kid die of tetanus because the influenza vaccine is garbage or the Covid vaccine is probably a bio weapon.
A lot of so called "anti vaxxers" support tetanus and rabies vaccines if someone steps on a nail or gets bitten.
There is no "tetanus vaccine". There is Tdap/ DTap. Stepping on rusty nails was from a time when horse droppings might be around. Have you seen any horses recently? Even if there was horses is there really any evidence to support this 'vaccine' working or taking 'pertissis' with it? Pertussis is one of the worst jabs for a 'disease' that had declined to 9 deaths a year in the 80s.
https://deeprootsathome.com/fun-facts-on-tetanus-rusty-nails-horses/
https://odysee.com/@QuantumRhino:9/DPT--Vaccine-Roulette-1982-Documentary:f
I see horses literally every day of my life (which is why it’s so important to keep lifestyle in mind) also that’s far from the only place one can get tetanus and yes you can opt out of the TDAp and request a straight tetanus vaccine. The pertussis vaccine came out in 1914, the combo vaccine was available in the 1940s so the decline in the disease points to the success of the vaccine not a lack of a need for it.
Not sure I agree that parents should have a right to order their children around, but apart from that very interesting, reasonable and well written, thank you. One question, if you have time to answer, have you read "Turtles All The Way Down" and, if so, can you summarize your opinion?
By children I specifically mean underage children, someone has to “order them around” or otherwise be responsible for their well-being and while parents are far from perfect I trust them more than I trust a government or healthcare entity to make such choices. No I haven’t read Turtles All the Way Down. It’s on my reading list but it’s a long list so it will probably be a while.
Thanks.
That is not how you do science. Someone could say it was melting icecaps responsible and have as much evidence as you gave. More really coz most decline was before the poison injection. Have you not thought about charging back your 'health insurance' yet? It is anti terrorism. You could switch sides. You would have the chargeback document. An early one. Be a heroin of the movement. What could be better? Or do you want to get raked on the coals?
1) It no longer matters if vaccines work or not. They are created by and pushed through by CORRUPT CRIMINAL organizations.
All credibility to any vaccine is GONE. I now see physicians and hospitals as murderers because they pushed death shots when the data was obvious.
2), 3), 4)... All rest of points are mute until we have justice for MURDER.
You are welcome to see physicians and hospitals however you want and you are welcome to avoid them. It’s an understandable response even if it’s not my own response.
I think the only justice to be seen here is eternal justice, there’s little change of any earthly justice occurring.
I don't like it. I'm sure you don't either. But it looks like you may be right.
You are welcome to wake up and stop letting people get away with murder.
The covid shots are the same as shooting a gun into a crowd. 99.7% will live... BUT IT IS STILL MURDER.
Remdesivir is like feeding someone a poisoned apple. "Dr." Tara. Wake up. It is murder... Many people should be in prison. Soft people like you are allowing murder to happen.
Many people should be in prison, but they won’t be. There isn’t a court on the planet that’s going to convict any of these people and they certainly won’t see any jail time. I’m not soft I’m just not stupid. Name me a single time in history when people were actually held accountable for these sorts of medical atrocities. Most of the Nazis got away with it and the higher ups that were held accountable were made to do so mostly by Mossad. The US government happily welcomed many of them into the scientific community in America.
How many of the people responsible for the Tuskegee experiments were jailed? Or even fired?
The only hope for justice in this world is vigilante justice and that is absolutely not something I am partaking in and since I haven’t heard anything on the news I’m guessing it’s something you aren’t up to either and for good reason.
Cancel your 'health insurance'. Sponsoring terrorism is a felony. Do you really believe you will get away with it when there is terrorists in your reality that you are sponsoring to kill you? No, you need to cancel now. Everyone needs to cancel now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0T0uCdVzMM
Well since my insurance is through the US government I don’t disagree that those in charge of it are guilty of terrorism. However by your reckoning every American taxpayer is guilty of sponsoring terrorism, federal tax evasion is also a felony. So if you can figure out a way to legally get out of paying federal income tax (and other federal taxes) I will drop my health insurance in a heartbeat and switch to a cost share program which is my preference anyway. But I can’t afford a cost share program because taxes etc eat up 20% of my paycheck. So you work out a way to keep that 20% in my bank account and I will do my part to bring down the health insurance industry.
Have you talked to your bank about charging back funds going to terrorists? They have to retrieve any funds that are going thru the bank to terrorism. Lives could be lost if they do not return the funds and continue aiding the terrorists. You said " I don’t disagree that those in charge of it are guilty of terrorism" What have you done to stop these financial flows from your account?
Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I do not pay for health insurance. My health insurance is provided via the US government through taxpayer dollars. So some of my federal tax money goes to those programs just like some of it goes to fund the war in Ukraine and a million other stupid programs. But your tax dollars and the federal tax dollars of every American also pays for it. I think it’s safe to say my local bankers would agree that our federal income taxes finance terrorism perpetrated by the government. However for some reason that whole going to prison for tax fraud and evasion keeps them from acting on those convictions which to be fair is also why I pay my taxes in the first place. So if you want to stop the terrorists that run my health insurance all you have to do is quit paying any federal taxes. I don’t recommend it but you do you.
re: my comments above re: Fentanyl
Anti Fentanyl Addiction Vaccine. Insanity/hysteria prevails. Yet again:
"Fentanyl Vaccine a Potential 'Game Changer' for Opioid Crisis"
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/984327
Next up? Anti Car Crash Vaccine. Anti Falling Off Tall Ladders Vaccine.
All of the above will sicken, maim, deform and kill. And, none will work. Not smart.