" Historically you can absolutely look at population groups and watch vaccines result in either the outright eradication of diseases or see them go from a common occurrence to unheard of. "
That is not how you do science. All you are looking at is manipulation of definitions. With 'polio' for example it is on record that statistics were …
" Historically you can absolutely look at population groups and watch vaccines result in either the outright eradication of diseases or see them go from a common occurrence to unheard of. "
That is not how you do science. All you are looking at is manipulation of definitions. With 'polio' for example it is on record that statistics were manipulated. Similar methods were used for other 'vaccines' such as 'smallpox' being redefined 'chickenpox' and 'measles' etc:
"The fact that dubious tactics were used to fabricate efficacy rates was corroborated by Dr. Bernard Greenberg, chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of the American Public Health Association during the 1950s. His expert testimony was used as evidence during Congressional hearings in 1962. He cred- ited the “decline” of polio cases not to the vaccine, but rather to a change in the way doctors were required to report cases: “Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was do- ing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospi- talization... two examinations at least 24 hours apart was all that was required... In 1955 the criteria were changed... residual pa- ralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset... This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease... Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be refined. Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from poliomyelitis... Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic crite- ria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease... [52:96,97]” https://medicinekillsmillions.com/articles/pdf/Polio-decline-vaccine-dangers-cancer-AIDS-mad-cow-disease-Miller.pdf
The simple reclassification of disease doesn’t explain why the deaths and severe symptoms disappeared. If polio was simply reclassified as other things there would be no reason for the iron lung to be put out to pasture, it would simply be used in other types of patients. If smallpox simply got renamed then we should have seen deaths in whatever category those cases were reclassified to. If the reason rabies rates in humans have dropped 99% in North America and have dropped by massive amounts in Europe is due to different detection techniques then why didn’t rates fall similarly in much of the Middle East and Africa?
Miller is a hack which is why he quoted Farm Sanctuary about BSE and not anyone who could vaguely be considered knowledgeable let alone experts. Anyone who goes to animal rights nut jobs for information on animal health does not deserve to be taken seriously in any way.
It was Sister Kenny who helped 'polio' cases. It was in the farms due to some chemical poisoning. You can watch this film about her. She is who you admire not this Salk charachter out to steal credit. https://odysee.com/@Terra:42/Sister-Kenny-1946-Full-Movie:3
Want to know how many kids have been on ventilators or have been intubated in my local hospital in the last year? Zero.
Sister Kenny’s work revolutionized the treatment of polio and practically invented the field of rehabilitative medicine, something for which she is rightly celebrated. But nothing she did prevented patients from needing respiratory support, she treated polio she didn’t prevent it which is why even her center had an iron lung it used for patients.
How many cases of scurvy were treated in your local hospitall? Are you trying to embarass the 'vaccine' cult or is this actually a genuine attempt at 'science' on your part? The sort of training you have to draw wild conclusions using pseudoscience?
You do not believe scientific studies, so I thought maybe historical trends would speak more to your common sense as there isn’t a study on the planet that would convince you that you are wrong. But you also think tetanus only comes from rusty horseshoe nails and that horses are some sort of mysterious creature that nobody ever sees anymore and you think that a nun who did an amazing job treating the devastating effects of polio is somehow responsible for its practical eradication. So clearly appeals to common sense are also unfortunately out of the question.
I’m not part of the “vaccine” cult. I don’t like our current schedules, I think there are far too many vaccines out there that are of limited efficacy and we have absolutely no idea of the long term effects of these vaccines. In a better system the focus would be on who most benefits from specific vaccines based on risk factors, genetic factors, and immune system status, and then to determine what’s the least possible number of vaccines necessary to provide reasonable protection for said people. But I’m also not going to pretend that tetanus is a vitamin deficiency akin to scurvy or that smallpox didn’t go from wiping out a significant portion of the population of North America to literally unheard of. If you think that pollution and modern medicine is to blame for everything and that viruses don’t exist maybe go talk to a member of the Patuxet tribe about that. Oh wait you can’t because they all died of infectious diseases brought on by Europeans by 1622. They did so in a virgin land free of pollution or chemicals.
Rabies post-exposure prophylaxis vaccination with purified chick embryo cell vaccine (PCECV) and purified Vero cell rabies vaccine (PVRV) in a four-site intradermal …
A Ambrozaitis, A Laiškonis, L Balčiuniene, A Banzhoff… - Vaccine, 2006 - Elsevier
Longevity of rabies antibody titre in recipients of human diploid cell rabies vaccine
DJ Briggs, JR Schwenke - Vaccine, 1992 - Elsevier
Safety and efficacy of purified Vero cell rabies vaccine given intramuscularly and intradermally.(Results of a prospective randomized trial)
W Jaiiaroensup, J Lang, P Thipkong, O Wimalaratne… - Vaccine, 1998 - Elsevier
Measles mortality and vaccine efficacy in rural West Africa
HF Hull, PJ Williams, F Oldfield - The Lancet, 1983 - Elsevier
Administration of Enders' live measles virus vaccine with human immune globulin
Robert Weibel, Ronald Halenda, Joseph Stokes, Maurice R Hilleman, Eugene B Buynak
JAMA 180 (13), 1086-1094, 1962
John F. Enders and measles virus vaccine—a reminiscence
SL Katz
Measles: History and Basic Biology, 3-11, 2009
Development and Evaluation of the Moraten Measles Virus Vaccine
Maurice R. Hilleman, PhD, DSc; Eugene B. Buynak, PhD; Robert E. Weibel, MD; et al
Joseph Stokes Jr., MD, DSc; James E. Whitman Jr., PhD; M. Bernice Leagus, PhD
The first one you can read for 40$ but the abstract already gives it away. It says " Rabipur™, is as safe and effective as the rabies human diploid cell vaccine (HDCV)". This means they compared one poison jab with another. There was no inert placebo. No proper control groups. Pseudoscience. That is the top of your list of 'science'. The rest are probably even worse. There is no warning on the article. That would be like walking into the reactor in the Chernobyl exclusion zone and nobody put any signs up to warn you. There is the gold standard and your article fails. As does the publisher. It is on the dark web.
You didn’t bother to read it and made assumptions about what it said and then made assumptions about every other paper listed based on your assumptions of the first article. Then you use the dark web as a source.
I never claimed the sources were in any particular order because they are not.
Nice of you to omit this part “ When used appropriately, new cell culture vaccines provide nearly 100% protection with a high degree of safety; yet over 40,000 people world-wide die from rabies each year. Additionally, PCEC vaccine does not result in immune-mediated hypersensitivity reactions following booster doses seen in about 6% of those receiving HDCV boosters following an initial series of HDCV.”
Also having a control group in humans for a disease with a 100% fatality rate is extremely unethical, far worse than what they did experimenting on people with the Covid jab. So rabies has a 100% fatality rate, this vaccine has a close to 100% effective rate and a lower than 6% reaction rate and you are mad because they didn’t let people die needlessly a horrible and agonizing death? For what it’s worth they did have control groups in the earlier nonhuman studies and you could have looked at those studies if you had bothered reading the actual paper. (Spoiler alert 100% of the control group got rabies.)
Your demands for studies are insincere because you are too cheap and lazy to get access to them or to bother reading them. Then you automatically declare any publisher of such studies as biased and suspect and then you use sources like the Dark Web. That’s like saying that since every pharmacist is corrupt I should go to my local neighborhood meth cook for pharmaceutical advice. After all there’s very little “science” to prove him wrong.
If you are going to ask for evidence the least you could do is pretend to look at it.
" Historically you can absolutely look at population groups and watch vaccines result in either the outright eradication of diseases or see them go from a common occurrence to unheard of. "
That is not how you do science. All you are looking at is manipulation of definitions. With 'polio' for example it is on record that statistics were manipulated. Similar methods were used for other 'vaccines' such as 'smallpox' being redefined 'chickenpox' and 'measles' etc:
"The fact that dubious tactics were used to fabricate efficacy rates was corroborated by Dr. Bernard Greenberg, chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of the American Public Health Association during the 1950s. His expert testimony was used as evidence during Congressional hearings in 1962. He cred- ited the “decline” of polio cases not to the vaccine, but rather to a change in the way doctors were required to report cases: “Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was do- ing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospi- talization... two examinations at least 24 hours apart was all that was required... In 1955 the criteria were changed... residual pa- ralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset... This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease... Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be refined. Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from poliomyelitis... Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic crite- ria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease... [52:96,97]” https://medicinekillsmillions.com/articles/pdf/Polio-decline-vaccine-dangers-cancer-AIDS-mad-cow-disease-Miller.pdf
The simple reclassification of disease doesn’t explain why the deaths and severe symptoms disappeared. If polio was simply reclassified as other things there would be no reason for the iron lung to be put out to pasture, it would simply be used in other types of patients. If smallpox simply got renamed then we should have seen deaths in whatever category those cases were reclassified to. If the reason rabies rates in humans have dropped 99% in North America and have dropped by massive amounts in Europe is due to different detection techniques then why didn’t rates fall similarly in much of the Middle East and Africa?
Miller is a hack which is why he quoted Farm Sanctuary about BSE and not anyone who could vaguely be considered knowledgeable let alone experts. Anyone who goes to animal rights nut jobs for information on animal health does not deserve to be taken seriously in any way.
Don't believe everything you read in your medical journals. The Polio vaccines did NOT eradicate Polio like we've been told.
American Pravda: Vaccines and the Mystery of Polio
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-vaccines-and-the-mystery-of-polio/
The Inventor of the Polio Vaccine Wanted To Depopulate the World
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-inventor-of-the-polio-vaccine
The Poisoned Needle - Eleanor McBean:
HTTPS://THEBIGVIRUSHOAX.COM/THE-POISONED-NEEDLE
https://archive.org/details/the-poisoned-needle-eleanor-mc-bean/page/n11/mode/2up
Iron lung is called a ventilator these days. There is worse. It is called intubation. Before you believe that polio has been eradicated, have a look at this graph of AFP and Polio: https://drsuzanne.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Smoke-Mirrors-and-the-%E2%80%9CDisappearance%E2%80%9D-Of-Polio-_-International-Medical-Council.pdf
It was Sister Kenny who helped 'polio' cases. It was in the farms due to some chemical poisoning. You can watch this film about her. She is who you admire not this Salk charachter out to steal credit. https://odysee.com/@Terra:42/Sister-Kenny-1946-Full-Movie:3
Want to know how many kids have been on ventilators or have been intubated in my local hospital in the last year? Zero.
Sister Kenny’s work revolutionized the treatment of polio and practically invented the field of rehabilitative medicine, something for which she is rightly celebrated. But nothing she did prevented patients from needing respiratory support, she treated polio she didn’t prevent it which is why even her center had an iron lung it used for patients.
How many cases of scurvy were treated in your local hospitall? Are you trying to embarass the 'vaccine' cult or is this actually a genuine attempt at 'science' on your part? The sort of training you have to draw wild conclusions using pseudoscience?
You do not believe scientific studies, so I thought maybe historical trends would speak more to your common sense as there isn’t a study on the planet that would convince you that you are wrong. But you also think tetanus only comes from rusty horseshoe nails and that horses are some sort of mysterious creature that nobody ever sees anymore and you think that a nun who did an amazing job treating the devastating effects of polio is somehow responsible for its practical eradication. So clearly appeals to common sense are also unfortunately out of the question.
I’m not part of the “vaccine” cult. I don’t like our current schedules, I think there are far too many vaccines out there that are of limited efficacy and we have absolutely no idea of the long term effects of these vaccines. In a better system the focus would be on who most benefits from specific vaccines based on risk factors, genetic factors, and immune system status, and then to determine what’s the least possible number of vaccines necessary to provide reasonable protection for said people. But I’m also not going to pretend that tetanus is a vitamin deficiency akin to scurvy or that smallpox didn’t go from wiping out a significant portion of the population of North America to literally unheard of. If you think that pollution and modern medicine is to blame for everything and that viruses don’t exist maybe go talk to a member of the Patuxet tribe about that. Oh wait you can’t because they all died of infectious diseases brought on by Europeans by 1622. They did so in a virgin land free of pollution or chemicals.
Where are these scientific studies? You only have pseudoscience which is why you have nothing to post. A terrorist in plain English.
Let me know when you get through with these how many more of which diseases I can get for you.
A global review of rabies vaccines for human use
Dreesen, David W
ISSN: 0264410X , 0264-410X , 1873-2518; DOI: 10.1016/S0264-410X(96)00314-3
Vaccine Vaccine. , 1997, Vol.15, p.S2-
Rabies post-exposure prophylaxis vaccination with purified chick embryo cell vaccine (PCECV) and purified Vero cell rabies vaccine (PVRV) in a four-site intradermal …
A Ambrozaitis, A Laiškonis, L Balčiuniene, A Banzhoff… - Vaccine, 2006 - Elsevier
Longevity of rabies antibody titre in recipients of human diploid cell rabies vaccine
DJ Briggs, JR Schwenke - Vaccine, 1992 - Elsevier
Safety and efficacy of purified Vero cell rabies vaccine given intramuscularly and intradermally.(Results of a prospective randomized trial)
W Jaiiaroensup, J Lang, P Thipkong, O Wimalaratne… - Vaccine, 1998 - Elsevier
Measles mortality and vaccine efficacy in rural West Africa
HF Hull, PJ Williams, F Oldfield - The Lancet, 1983 - Elsevier
Administration of Enders' live measles virus vaccine with human immune globulin
Robert Weibel, Ronald Halenda, Joseph Stokes, Maurice R Hilleman, Eugene B Buynak
JAMA 180 (13), 1086-1094, 1962
John F. Enders and measles virus vaccine—a reminiscence
SL Katz
Measles: History and Basic Biology, 3-11, 2009
Development and Evaluation of the Moraten Measles Virus Vaccine
Maurice R. Hilleman, PhD, DSc; Eugene B. Buynak, PhD; Robert E. Weibel, MD; et al
Joseph Stokes Jr., MD, DSc; James E. Whitman Jr., PhD; M. Bernice Leagus, PhD
Author Affiliations
JAMA. 1968;206(3):587-590. doi:10.1001/jama.1968.03150030043009
Poliovirus
PD Minor - eLS, 1997 - Wiley Online Library
Minor, 2012b
P.D. Minor
The polio eradication programme and issues of the endgame
J. Gen. Virol., 93 (2012), pp. 457-474
The first one you can read for 40$ but the abstract already gives it away. It says " Rabipur™, is as safe and effective as the rabies human diploid cell vaccine (HDCV)". This means they compared one poison jab with another. There was no inert placebo. No proper control groups. Pseudoscience. That is the top of your list of 'science'. The rest are probably even worse. There is no warning on the article. That would be like walking into the reactor in the Chernobyl exclusion zone and nobody put any signs up to warn you. There is the gold standard and your article fails. As does the publisher. It is on the dark web.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGPjj4B_jEk
You didn’t bother to read it and made assumptions about what it said and then made assumptions about every other paper listed based on your assumptions of the first article. Then you use the dark web as a source.
I never claimed the sources were in any particular order because they are not.
Nice of you to omit this part “ When used appropriately, new cell culture vaccines provide nearly 100% protection with a high degree of safety; yet over 40,000 people world-wide die from rabies each year. Additionally, PCEC vaccine does not result in immune-mediated hypersensitivity reactions following booster doses seen in about 6% of those receiving HDCV boosters following an initial series of HDCV.”
Also having a control group in humans for a disease with a 100% fatality rate is extremely unethical, far worse than what they did experimenting on people with the Covid jab. So rabies has a 100% fatality rate, this vaccine has a close to 100% effective rate and a lower than 6% reaction rate and you are mad because they didn’t let people die needlessly a horrible and agonizing death? For what it’s worth they did have control groups in the earlier nonhuman studies and you could have looked at those studies if you had bothered reading the actual paper. (Spoiler alert 100% of the control group got rabies.)
Your demands for studies are insincere because you are too cheap and lazy to get access to them or to bother reading them. Then you automatically declare any publisher of such studies as biased and suspect and then you use sources like the Dark Web. That’s like saying that since every pharmacist is corrupt I should go to my local neighborhood meth cook for pharmaceutical advice. After all there’s very little “science” to prove him wrong.
If you are going to ask for evidence the least you could do is pretend to look at it.