I like going to Steves site from time to time. On this thread there are close to 15 graphs that make little sense to me. I may be wrong, but it seems he is preaching to the choir. At least on visitors to this site - Are there still people that are undecided on the issue of covid shots? I guess there are people that love graphs and data. …
I like going to Steves site from time to time. On this thread there are close to 15 graphs that make little sense to me. I may be wrong, but it seems he is preaching to the choir. At least on visitors to this site - Are there still people that are undecided on the issue of covid shots? I guess there are people that love graphs and data. I'm more simplistic. For one I did not think covid presented a risk to me and believe in natural immunity, also after a vaccine forced on me in the military partially paralyzed my face, I decided to never take any vaccines again.
Again, I'm sorry you were forced into that . Unfortunately, when the WHO's "World Health Assembly" meets this May 21-30, they will probably vote in amendments to the International Health Regulations and the Pandemic treaty which will give it the power to mandate the pandemic response of all member nations, including the US. They will be able to override congress, the president and out constitution and could mandate shots, "Global Digital Health Certificates," be able to restrict our travel, institute quarantines, commandeer planes and ships and do surveillance for "health events" among other things.
We are trying to stop this by asking Congress to vote to ExitTheWHO.com . (When you get to the site, there's a lot you can read, but if you don't want to (trust me, you won't) scroll down a couple of times. You'll get to the link where you can send a message to all of Congresses Senators and Representatives that we want OUT of the WHO with just one click.
I'm part of that choir you describe. My reason for coming here is to update my understanding of a very complex issue, and to try to reduce it to terms that can be easily understood by anyone willing to listen. That may be a small number at present, but it's not zero, and if things continue the way they appear to, that number will grow according to a well established pattern that goes something like this:
I'm definitely a choir member and love your point, first described (so far as I know) by Kubler-Ross.
Where do you think the broader public is on the spectrum? From my perch, most are in denial. The only anger I've noticed is...against me for my "non-scientific", voodoo views.
Thank you Gemma. It's hard to gauge exactly where we are in that progression. Globally, I'd say NZ is ahead of us in the anger dept. which probably accounts for Jacinda bailing out. For bargaining I'd substitute 'backtracking' at least where the authorities are concerned. The anger is noticeable and has been for a while, it just doesn't get reported, which is why we need this place (substack).
I'm not the best person to ask for a measure of local conditions because I'm way off the beaten track in a small community, but from our local TV I get the impression that we're reaching exhaustion and what I'd call the f'it stage, where you just let that truck you're trying save slid into the canyon. Nothing else you can do. What I mean is, those that understand the actual science, or who can translate it effectively like Steve does, have all been reached at this point. The doesn't mean we shouldn't press on though, because we still have to help those who've been injured, and we haven't yet found anything you could call a 'cure.' Just remedial stuff.
Denial can only last as long as you aren't directly affected, a number which gets smaller every day. At some threshold that trips into action, as we saw with the trucker rebellion. That's a big step for most though, putting everything on the line. We'll get there, it's just hard to say when. In the meantime, here we are.
Unfortunately, even some of those directly affected don't know it, because they've been given false information about why a death, disease, miscarraige, injury happened. And I've found articles claiming "Long COVID" is to blame for things I am pretty sure were caused by the shots. So they are then both denying the damage of the shots and falsely increasing the alleged damage supposedly done by COVID.
Can't speak for the other guy but I was Army and certain it was the anthrax jab. I had muscle weakness to the point I could not walk. I fully recovered but it took 3 months.
I like going to Steves site from time to time. On this thread there are close to 15 graphs that make little sense to me. I may be wrong, but it seems he is preaching to the choir. At least on visitors to this site - Are there still people that are undecided on the issue of covid shots? I guess there are people that love graphs and data. I'm more simplistic. For one I did not think covid presented a risk to me and believe in natural immunity, also after a vaccine forced on me in the military partially paralyzed my face, I decided to never take any vaccines again.
Again, I'm sorry you were forced into that . Unfortunately, when the WHO's "World Health Assembly" meets this May 21-30, they will probably vote in amendments to the International Health Regulations and the Pandemic treaty which will give it the power to mandate the pandemic response of all member nations, including the US. They will be able to override congress, the president and out constitution and could mandate shots, "Global Digital Health Certificates," be able to restrict our travel, institute quarantines, commandeer planes and ships and do surveillance for "health events" among other things.
We are trying to stop this by asking Congress to vote to ExitTheWHO.com . (When you get to the site, there's a lot you can read, but if you don't want to (trust me, you won't) scroll down a couple of times. You'll get to the link where you can send a message to all of Congresses Senators and Representatives that we want OUT of the WHO with just one click.
that just took two minutes! Thank you!
You did it? That's great!
So sorry to hear. May G-d heal you.
I'm part of that choir you describe. My reason for coming here is to update my understanding of a very complex issue, and to try to reduce it to terms that can be easily understood by anyone willing to listen. That may be a small number at present, but it's not zero, and if things continue the way they appear to, that number will grow according to a well established pattern that goes something like this:
denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.
I'm definitely a choir member and love your point, first described (so far as I know) by Kubler-Ross.
Where do you think the broader public is on the spectrum? From my perch, most are in denial. The only anger I've noticed is...against me for my "non-scientific", voodoo views.
Is your experience better?
Thank you Gemma. It's hard to gauge exactly where we are in that progression. Globally, I'd say NZ is ahead of us in the anger dept. which probably accounts for Jacinda bailing out. For bargaining I'd substitute 'backtracking' at least where the authorities are concerned. The anger is noticeable and has been for a while, it just doesn't get reported, which is why we need this place (substack).
I'm not the best person to ask for a measure of local conditions because I'm way off the beaten track in a small community, but from our local TV I get the impression that we're reaching exhaustion and what I'd call the f'it stage, where you just let that truck you're trying save slid into the canyon. Nothing else you can do. What I mean is, those that understand the actual science, or who can translate it effectively like Steve does, have all been reached at this point. The doesn't mean we shouldn't press on though, because we still have to help those who've been injured, and we haven't yet found anything you could call a 'cure.' Just remedial stuff.
Denial can only last as long as you aren't directly affected, a number which gets smaller every day. At some threshold that trips into action, as we saw with the trucker rebellion. That's a big step for most though, putting everything on the line. We'll get there, it's just hard to say when. In the meantime, here we are.
Unfortunately, even some of those directly affected don't know it, because they've been given false information about why a death, disease, miscarraige, injury happened. And I've found articles claiming "Long COVID" is to blame for things I am pretty sure were caused by the shots. So they are then both denying the damage of the shots and falsely increasing the alleged damage supposedly done by COVID.
Being military, you had a lot of vaccines forced on you.
Do you know which one caused the paralysis? And was it long lasting? Any other symptoms?
Can't speak for the other guy but I was Army and certain it was the anthrax jab. I had muscle weakness to the point I could not walk. I fully recovered but it took 3 months.