I'm part of that choir you describe. My reason for coming here is to update my understanding of a very complex issue, and to try to reduce it to terms that can be easily understood by anyone willing to listen. That may be a small number at present, but it's not zero, and if things continue the way they appear to, that number will grow …
I'm part of that choir you describe. My reason for coming here is to update my understanding of a very complex issue, and to try to reduce it to terms that can be easily understood by anyone willing to listen. That may be a small number at present, but it's not zero, and if things continue the way they appear to, that number will grow according to a well established pattern that goes something like this:
I'm definitely a choir member and love your point, first described (so far as I know) by Kubler-Ross.
Where do you think the broader public is on the spectrum? From my perch, most are in denial. The only anger I've noticed is...against me for my "non-scientific", voodoo views.
Thank you Gemma. It's hard to gauge exactly where we are in that progression. Globally, I'd say NZ is ahead of us in the anger dept. which probably accounts for Jacinda bailing out. For bargaining I'd substitute 'backtracking' at least where the authorities are concerned. The anger is noticeable and has been for a while, it just doesn't get reported, which is why we need this place (substack).
I'm not the best person to ask for a measure of local conditions because I'm way off the beaten track in a small community, but from our local TV I get the impression that we're reaching exhaustion and what I'd call the f'it stage, where you just let that truck you're trying save slid into the canyon. Nothing else you can do. What I mean is, those that understand the actual science, or who can translate it effectively like Steve does, have all been reached at this point. The doesn't mean we shouldn't press on though, because we still have to help those who've been injured, and we haven't yet found anything you could call a 'cure.' Just remedial stuff.
Denial can only last as long as you aren't directly affected, a number which gets smaller every day. At some threshold that trips into action, as we saw with the trucker rebellion. That's a big step for most though, putting everything on the line. We'll get there, it's just hard to say when. In the meantime, here we are.
Unfortunately, even some of those directly affected don't know it, because they've been given false information about why a death, disease, miscarraige, injury happened. And I've found articles claiming "Long COVID" is to blame for things I am pretty sure were caused by the shots. So they are then both denying the damage of the shots and falsely increasing the alleged damage supposedly done by COVID.
I'm part of that choir you describe. My reason for coming here is to update my understanding of a very complex issue, and to try to reduce it to terms that can be easily understood by anyone willing to listen. That may be a small number at present, but it's not zero, and if things continue the way they appear to, that number will grow according to a well established pattern that goes something like this:
denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.
I'm definitely a choir member and love your point, first described (so far as I know) by Kubler-Ross.
Where do you think the broader public is on the spectrum? From my perch, most are in denial. The only anger I've noticed is...against me for my "non-scientific", voodoo views.
Is your experience better?
Thank you Gemma. It's hard to gauge exactly where we are in that progression. Globally, I'd say NZ is ahead of us in the anger dept. which probably accounts for Jacinda bailing out. For bargaining I'd substitute 'backtracking' at least where the authorities are concerned. The anger is noticeable and has been for a while, it just doesn't get reported, which is why we need this place (substack).
I'm not the best person to ask for a measure of local conditions because I'm way off the beaten track in a small community, but from our local TV I get the impression that we're reaching exhaustion and what I'd call the f'it stage, where you just let that truck you're trying save slid into the canyon. Nothing else you can do. What I mean is, those that understand the actual science, or who can translate it effectively like Steve does, have all been reached at this point. The doesn't mean we shouldn't press on though, because we still have to help those who've been injured, and we haven't yet found anything you could call a 'cure.' Just remedial stuff.
Denial can only last as long as you aren't directly affected, a number which gets smaller every day. At some threshold that trips into action, as we saw with the trucker rebellion. That's a big step for most though, putting everything on the line. We'll get there, it's just hard to say when. In the meantime, here we are.
Unfortunately, even some of those directly affected don't know it, because they've been given false information about why a death, disease, miscarraige, injury happened. And I've found articles claiming "Long COVID" is to blame for things I am pretty sure were caused by the shots. So they are then both denying the damage of the shots and falsely increasing the alleged damage supposedly done by COVID.