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Betsy, it's obvious that AN is a stalker, like Dr. Jekyll. Medical doctors can be like that, esp. when they belong to a state trade cartel used by them to inflate revenues and to marginalize medics outside the cartel.

Since democrats, too, are malevolent stalkers, it's a good idea to poke holes in their faith.

Consider, for example, the problem of how to establish a democracy democratically. Must one do that through voting or not through voting? If democratically through voting, the founding fanatics will need a government to organize a plebiscite and to impose the results, but this organizing government itself isn't necessarily democratic. (Was it established by plebiscite?) This method of establishing democracy leads to the problem of infinite regress.

If voting is unnecessary to establish a democracy democratically, then why do we need voting to pick politicians? The founding fanatics themselves were not chosen by a popularity contest, so they ought to be happy with a system of chosing legislators, executives, and judges without voting.

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