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David A's avatar

The "are viruses real" questions came out of nowhere, and in my view are an irrelevant semantic distraction. (There are over 1,000 peer review papers showing the many harms of Covid) So call it what you will, it, and the spike protein are real and contagious. Jo Nova is very very honorable blogger from Australia, and has the educational background to back up her take on this...

"I know some people want to believe viruses are not real. It would be comforting. I applaud everyone who questions assumptions, but not those who don’t want to learn any genetics or virology. There are billion observations that can’t be explained with the hypothesis that viruses don’t exist. I just keep pointing at the data. Isn’t that what science is?

Viruses have been isolated genetically, antigenically, with electron microscopes, and in functional plaque assays millions of times. The requirement that someone must also isolate them molecularly is an anachronistic, semantic, expensive and irrelevant point.

We don’t have to isolate a box of pure computer virus to know that computer viruses exist.

We can only make copies of viruses by putting them in cells which use all the same chemical elements and much of the same coding and proteins. Separating out the viruses from 100,000 similar chemicals to get purity is possible but expensive and scientifically pointless.

We isolate them with plaque assays, antibody tests, electron micrographs, PCR analysis, contact tracing, symptoms, blood tests for D-Dimer, Cytokines, blood oxy levels, etc etc etc. We do binding tests on various subparts of the virus with ACE2 TMPRSS2 and nuclear transport proteins, etc etc etc. See Nextstrain to get some idea of how much data they can’t explain. (Mouseover and then double click the dots on Nextstrain to see more data).

There’s a billion observations that already fit the hypothesis that viruses are real. The hypothesis that all viruses are fake explains none of them…"

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/06/weekend-unthreaded-417/#comment-2561474

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Baldmichael's avatar

"The "are viruses real" questions came out of nowhere,"

This it not true, it has been understood in the past, only the so-called scientists in the late 1800's change the understanding essentially so as foist on the public their Nazi drugs and chemicals including vaccines.

Viruses have been mistaken if anything for the exosome, the body's own defense system.

The issue is one where something exists, but it is not what they, the so-called experts, say it is.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/e-is-for-exosomes/

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I never said "viruses aren't real", I said THIS "virus" isn't real. The PCR test was never meant to diagnose anything, as per it's inventor, the late Kary Mullis.

Isn't it strange how in 2020, the tried and true methods used in "science" have "suddenly" become "anachronistic, semantic, expensive and irrelevant"??? LOL!

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David A's avatar

There is much to be concerned with regarding how Covid was developed,

The PCR test was used to exaggerate the virus when that is what they wanted to do. Yet every method mentioned in my response has been used for Covid. It is real.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

This "virus" is nothing but a cgi computer creation.

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David A's avatar

It is almost certainly a GOF Coronavirus made by the US and China.

"I applaud everyone who questions assumptions, but not those who don’t want to learn any genetics or virology. There are billion observations that can’t be explained with the hypothesis that viruses don’t exist. I just keep pointing at the data. Isn’t that what science is?

Viruses have been isolated genetically, antigenically, with electron microscopes, and in functional plaque assays millions of times. The requirement that someone must also isolate them molecularly is an anachronistic, semantic, expensive and irrelevant point.

We don’t have to isolate a box of pure computer virus to know that computer viruses exist.

We can only make copies of viruses by putting them in cells which use all the same chemical elements and much of the same coding and proteins. Separating out the viruses from 100,000 similar chemicals to get purity is possible but expensive and scientifically pointless.

We isolate them with plaque assays, antibody tests, electron micrographs, PCR analysis, contact tracing, symptoms, blood tests for D-Dimer, Cytokines, blood oxy levels, etc etc etc. We do binding tests on various subparts of the virus with ACE2 TMPRSS2 and nuclear transport proteins, etc etc etc. See Nextstrain to get some idea of how much data they can’t explain. (Mouseover and then double click the dots on Nextstrain to see more data). (EVERY ONE OF THESE IS DONE WITH SARS )

There’s a billion observations that already fit the hypothesis that viruses are real. The hypothesis that all viruses are fake explains none of them…

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/06/weekend-unthreaded-417/#comment-2561474

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/06/thursday-open-thread-107/#comment-2560722

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