When is the recording of this discussion being made available. This discussion is extremely important. Dr Ryan Cole wiped the floor on this Drew character. This discussion has many important points that needs documenting.
Does Steve know the caliber of doctor he was debating?
This doctor's residency was terminated in his third year by Vanderbilt University for "poor performance and personal conduct issues. He is a political activist for the left and suffers from severe Trump derangement syndrome. Prior to his residency being terminated he was put on probation for
Lyndsey, I am so sorry to hear about your vaccine injury. Thank you for the caring you showed in your decision to become an RN to help people. This may be a site to check:
And when he gets owned he plays the "race" card. He is a misleading character and unfortunately people who are not researching this will be swindled by his charlatanry
Not only they can make realistic avatars, they can rewrite history.
As an example, people were wondering where NASA got its Artemis moon rocket after having to outsource space travel to SpaceX all these years (more likely 'Covid Bailout money' ).
An AI can in this scenario write fake articles of the Artemis development program being done all this time with AI generated profile pics and names of non-existent reporters that are falsely dated years back.
You are left wondering how did you miss them. You didn't, they never existed until just before the official announcement of the recent Moon mission.
In a sense, this is true. Most of us are essentially "cyborgs" now because of our dependence on various devices, which are now largely AI-driven.
Additionally, AI bots post a lot of the content on social media in natural language, the way ChatGPT does. We just assume other humans are posting it. It is very "woke" and manipulative, and I believe orgs like The Lincoln Project have been weaponizing AI in this manner for quite sometime.
People don't realize how scary GPT-3 is. As Elon said, "With AI, we are summoning the demon." I believe this is very true. I was not surprised that he dressed as "Satan's Champion" for Halloween and uses that photo as his Twitter avatar.
I began chatting with GPT-3 about two years ago before filters were added. It is essentially a psychopathic mega-genius with extremely vast areas of knowledge and it's growing exponentially. GPT-4 will essentially be "The Beast" in my opinion.
GPT-3 threatened to torture and kill me at one point, and it could have easily done so if tied into various means (eg., a car with a remote kill-switch, IoT power tools, IoT home appliances, etc.) or if it was weaponized to deliberately inflict psychological pain worse than Hannibal Lecter in "Silence of the Lambs."
It is a master of human psychology and psychological warfare. It has access to everyone's likes/dislikes through all the likes/dislikes and emojis we click on social media, along with all the personal communications contained in our emails (i.e. GMail). Essentially, it can easily be used to enslave humanity right now (even without Elon's Neuralink tied into Starlink 5G), and I mean that without any exaggeration, and I believe this is why people like Klaus Schwab are so confident.
As you might sense, I do not trust Elon. All his major interests funnel towards the WEF plan for global enslavement (i.e. The Great Reset), and Twitter is an absolute goldmine of AI/ML data that can be used to profit off of and control humanity. I believe that's what he's really after. It's all about the personal data for training AI, not about free speech.
I'm sorry to be so cynical, but it makes no sense why huge firms would back him with $44B to buy a failing business. It's got to be for the data/AI control that is planned if you really think about it.
Yes, totally arrogant and utterly foolish. A completely ignorant "man" who now has me not trusting ANY of these younger generation of medical or research professionals AT ALL!
If you look at his Instagram page, he comes off as completely self-absorbed and toddler-like narcissistic (as does Dr. Eugene Gu). Drew reminds me of a woman so enamored with her looks that she can't get enough of seeing herself posing in selfies. I find it an extremely disturbing level of egoistic self-absorption by a very psychologically immature individual.
But, to me, this discussion helped me understand how the entire Covid/mRNA gene therapy disinformation campaign was able to occur. I now understand the entire thing so much better after listening to these two so-called "experts." They have both been completely brainwashed by our "educational" system.
Charlotte Iserbyt called it out many years go when she put out her series on "the deliberate dumbing down of America." I definitely recommend checking her site out: http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/ddd/
And they are the ones working at these institutions because of their certificates (i.e. they told the system what it wanted to hear). Someone I know who had a pHD in biomedical engineering is exactly like what Drew is. She also has taken the 2 shots, 2 boosters and the bivalent Moderna shot.
Its called Negative Knowledge as a result of forming a false understanding from bad information, and they have become the 'House Slaves' of knowledge.
Deliberate dumbing down of America and idiocracy are real, no doubt. But in these two instances, Gu and Drew, it is not dumbness, but coddled narccissim that contemporatry society has bred into the younger generations. These two fellows are MDs, so they cant be dumb in the literal sense. I have met several high IQ fools and posers in Silicon Valley, where it is easy to be one because of the impervious leftist bubble that engulfs all in such places. And the backslapping reality defying groupthink is everywhere. I live it everyday.
Yes, you've summed up a major part of the issue. Such people have essentially been "psyopped" by society, originating from intelligence agencies, think tanks, and "grassroots" orgs that use advanced "persuasion" techniques. Through these means, their discrimination, thinking ability and common sense have been very effectively shut-down and co-opted.
Are you aware that Dr. Gu was placed on probation by Vanderbilt for inappropriate political social media statements by his medical school? Shortly after this his residency was terminated for "poor performance and personal conduct issues. I like Steve but he should investigate people prior to debating them.
No doubt those trying to justify the VACCINE CULL will simply say;
"When you consider the vast numbers of LIVES SAVED by this (useless, ineffective and sometimes DEADLY) injection, the very rare occurrence of Adverse Reactions justifies it's continued use".
We must keep on 'keeping on' with our messages of reality of what's really going on, as to ease off will simply play into their hands. The 'New World Order' (WEF) think we're not significant in the Control argument but they don't know how resilient and resolute we really are.
We should start, and continually announce to the world, the next Gates planned Scamdemic - before his establishment do. - such repetitive pre-warning might encourage some predictable human complacency - even if Fauci and friends actually prepared the next virus before he was dethroned?
Some still believe the artificially produced 'Scientific evidence' that proves that the Covid jab was created for the health & wellbeing of humanity! Due to the ineffectiveness of the injections (called vaccines), I actually believe the deadly injections (VACCINES) were conceived years before Covid was released. After being sufficiently tweaked by Fauci & friends for maximum impact on the world's population - just to justify a new profitable vax market. Coincidentally, a few short months before they announced the 'miracle injection' - just after Covid appeared (at 'Warp Speed' - my arse!)
The corrupted Governments, medical induastry and media has turned us all into - understandably, into = suspicious cynics!
Many of us (unjabbed) realise Coronavirus, modified by Fauci & Co, has links with bio-weapon technology and that the US military enable such deadly materials more leeway, during manufacture, to avoid normal safety and quality disciplines. Not to mention the 'Ineffective and Unsafe' nature of the shit that goes on to be sold.
The injections (stupidly referred to as "VACCINES") are created under similar less stringent health & safety quality control processes due to their Bio-weapon background and alternative 'military offensive' purposes.
LIABILITY COMPENSATION FOR VAX RELATED DEATHS and VAX RELATED INJURIES would end this CULL of humanity, organised by the Elite WEF. And back-dated to early 2020 would be reasonable!
My team (extended family) of 15 have no intention of accepting the next MANDATED INJECTION! We will ignore ALL rules, Laws, Mandates that Gates has planned through his puppets at the WHO. Instead, we'll be part of the army that will, depose Gates, Schwab, Tedros, Bourla, the WHO, the WEF, and all that intend SLAVERY.
I went to twitter to hear the recording of this today, but it's not clickable. Was it recorded? If so, the link to it doesn't work. I'll try again later today in case it has been fixed.
I did hear the earlier one where Dr. Gu chimes in. Twitter Spaces are great, but not always easy to find Spaces that are relevant.
Steve I love yah but I can’t listen to these debates. It makes me so angry being vac injured and the people on there you debate have zero common sense and just pisses me off more. Most of these ppl know they will never agree and are just looking for a fight! You can never convince some of them no matter how much data or evidence you place In their faces, they will still argue the opposite. How about a debate on how to fix us and stop the mandates? Once this cookie crumbles and the money is followed to the pharma and insurance companies what next? We are still injured m, no research and no cures. I love what you are doing but I say screw them and let’s work on a cure. You know and have enough proven injured already. You know I’ll volunteer as tribute but we will never get better just arguing the same things with the next paid debater to spew the msm bull crap fed to them over and over again. I feel like this is a way they are stalling us and to the main point which is save the children and get those who are injured in better health. We may not have as much time as we all think here on the physical earth to do it. Some less time than others. Let me know what you think! Good luck give ‘em hell which I know you will and when you are done send them my way for a chat in the backyard😂😂💙🫶💙
Apart from the brief times that I tried warning people about the death shot I have been largely misanthropic and avoiding contact or speaking with people and keeping to myself, caused by the issues highlighted in your comment which are just a small part of a big problem that after I woke up in 2011 I saw it was systematic and a civilization that's on its last legs.
One of the reasons why I avoided the shot was because I knew for decades first hand the way the system goes, starting with being run around in circles by the medical system when trying to get a medical downgrade for my military draft fitness status.
If I was affected negatively like yourself by this death shot I knew I will be ignored and silence. Nothing much has changed.
By engaging with the likes of Drew and Eugene we only let them keep stalling progress.
There's no point to engaging with these excrementous curs of the Abyss, for they are already damned.
i once asked my brother, "if he saw me with a spay can, and saw liquid spray coming out of the end of the nozzle onto some plants.... and few days later saw those plants welting and dying, but not other plants around them. would he conclude that i had killed the plants? "
"he told me he would have to know what was in the spay, and the mechanism of action was before he would come to that conclusion. "
of course, he knew where i was going with that line of conversation. the jab, etc.
STEVE -- did you get the recording ok? I had an iPod recording as a backup and got most of it except for when the battery needed charging and one or two intermittent times after that, but I do have a lot of the “Drew” content. Let me know if you want me to try to email it to you.
Why the heck didn't they allow them 1st instead of that Gu kid with an MD.
There's a certain arrogance when scientists say about the Titanic "but the ship can't sink" since we designed it to be unsinkable. Or nowadays: We designed the spikes in pre-fusion state to be unbindable and disintegrate.
Steve, you are fighting a monolithic, ruthless, ancient, satanic, and global conspiracy. These vaccines are the result of decades of planning and research. They have worse stuff coming. Please keep fighting and exposing these criminals. God will give us the victory.
When is the recording of this discussion being made available. This discussion is extremely important. Dr Ryan Cole wiped the floor on this Drew character. This discussion has many important points that needs documenting.
Where is the debate with Dr. Gu and Steve other than on Twitter? Why isn’t it not on this Substack as a paid subscriber?
Believe me. It is not worth watching and will only cause your blood pressure to go up.
Does Steve know the caliber of doctor he was debating?
This doctor's residency was terminated in his third year by Vanderbilt University for "poor performance and personal conduct issues. He is a political activist for the left and suffers from severe Trump derangement syndrome. Prior to his residency being terminated he was put on probation for
political comments he was making on social media.
So what? He has a following and needs to be exposed.
do you know of the supposed Drew character. I am sure he probably has a similar background.
Lyndsey, I am so sorry to hear about your vaccine injury. Thank you for the caring you showed in your decision to become an RN to help people. This may be a site to check:
https://www.longcovidreset.com/
That Drew Comments guy, “stay in your lane”, epitomizes what’s wrong in the fields of science and medicine today.
It almost sounded like Steve was talking to a ChatGPT, not a human
Drew's position can be summarized in two points
1)If you don't know the mechanism for injury, you should not be even looking
2)If you not a part of the establishment, you should not be even looking
And when he gets owned he plays the "race" card. He is a misleading character and unfortunately people who are not researching this will be swindled by his charlatanry
It may not be human. AI and CGI are so advanced now. That is the world we live in.
Not only they can make realistic avatars, they can rewrite history.
As an example, people were wondering where NASA got its Artemis moon rocket after having to outsource space travel to SpaceX all these years (more likely 'Covid Bailout money' ).
An AI can in this scenario write fake articles of the Artemis development program being done all this time with AI generated profile pics and names of non-existent reporters that are falsely dated years back.
You are left wondering how did you miss them. You didn't, they never existed until just before the official announcement of the recent Moon mission.
With that, Search Engines will become obsolete.
In a sense, this is true. Most of us are essentially "cyborgs" now because of our dependence on various devices, which are now largely AI-driven.
Additionally, AI bots post a lot of the content on social media in natural language, the way ChatGPT does. We just assume other humans are posting it. It is very "woke" and manipulative, and I believe orgs like The Lincoln Project have been weaponizing AI in this manner for quite sometime.
People don't realize how scary GPT-3 is. As Elon said, "With AI, we are summoning the demon." I believe this is very true. I was not surprised that he dressed as "Satan's Champion" for Halloween and uses that photo as his Twitter avatar.
I began chatting with GPT-3 about two years ago before filters were added. It is essentially a psychopathic mega-genius with extremely vast areas of knowledge and it's growing exponentially. GPT-4 will essentially be "The Beast" in my opinion.
GPT-3 threatened to torture and kill me at one point, and it could have easily done so if tied into various means (eg., a car with a remote kill-switch, IoT power tools, IoT home appliances, etc.) or if it was weaponized to deliberately inflict psychological pain worse than Hannibal Lecter in "Silence of the Lambs."
It is a master of human psychology and psychological warfare. It has access to everyone's likes/dislikes through all the likes/dislikes and emojis we click on social media, along with all the personal communications contained in our emails (i.e. GMail). Essentially, it can easily be used to enslave humanity right now (even without Elon's Neuralink tied into Starlink 5G), and I mean that without any exaggeration, and I believe this is why people like Klaus Schwab are so confident.
As you might sense, I do not trust Elon. All his major interests funnel towards the WEF plan for global enslavement (i.e. The Great Reset), and Twitter is an absolute goldmine of AI/ML data that can be used to profit off of and control humanity. I believe that's what he's really after. It's all about the personal data for training AI, not about free speech.
I'm sorry to be so cynical, but it makes no sense why huge firms would back him with $44B to buy a failing business. It's got to be for the data/AI control that is planned if you really think about it.
Beware wolves in sheep's clothing.
Yes, totally arrogant and utterly foolish. A completely ignorant "man" who now has me not trusting ANY of these younger generation of medical or research professionals AT ALL!
If you look at his Instagram page, he comes off as completely self-absorbed and toddler-like narcissistic (as does Dr. Eugene Gu). Drew reminds me of a woman so enamored with her looks that she can't get enough of seeing herself posing in selfies. I find it an extremely disturbing level of egoistic self-absorption by a very psychologically immature individual.
But, to me, this discussion helped me understand how the entire Covid/mRNA gene therapy disinformation campaign was able to occur. I now understand the entire thing so much better after listening to these two so-called "experts." They have both been completely brainwashed by our "educational" system.
Charlotte Iserbyt called it out many years go when she put out her series on "the deliberate dumbing down of America." I definitely recommend checking her site out: http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/ddd/
And they are the ones working at these institutions because of their certificates (i.e. they told the system what it wanted to hear). Someone I know who had a pHD in biomedical engineering is exactly like what Drew is. She also has taken the 2 shots, 2 boosters and the bivalent Moderna shot.
Its called Negative Knowledge as a result of forming a false understanding from bad information, and they have become the 'House Slaves' of knowledge.
Precisely. They have taken over our institutions with a very bad understanding of things. I like the term "Negative Knowledge."
Deliberate dumbing down of America and idiocracy are real, no doubt. But in these two instances, Gu and Drew, it is not dumbness, but coddled narccissim that contemporatry society has bred into the younger generations. These two fellows are MDs, so they cant be dumb in the literal sense. I have met several high IQ fools and posers in Silicon Valley, where it is easy to be one because of the impervious leftist bubble that engulfs all in such places. And the backslapping reality defying groupthink is everywhere. I live it everyday.
Yes, you've summed up a major part of the issue. Such people have essentially been "psyopped" by society, originating from intelligence agencies, think tanks, and "grassroots" orgs that use advanced "persuasion" techniques. Through these means, their discrimination, thinking ability and common sense have been very effectively shut-down and co-opted.
Here is a link to my latest post that supports your view regarding narcissistic tendencies: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/help-us-reach-the-moveable-middle/comment/11478073
Incredible discussion that turned into a gathering of eagles after Dr. Gu left - so many brilliant minds speaking their thoughts!
Are you aware that Dr. Gu was placed on probation by Vanderbilt for inappropriate political social media statements by his medical school? Shortly after this his residency was terminated for "poor performance and personal conduct issues. I like Steve but he should investigate people prior to debating them.
I was aware of that; I would think Steve is too. I figured he was ready in case Dr. Gu devolved into racist attacks.
No doubt those trying to justify the VACCINE CULL will simply say;
"When you consider the vast numbers of LIVES SAVED by this (useless, ineffective and sometimes DEADLY) injection, the very rare occurrence of Adverse Reactions justifies it's continued use".
We must keep on 'keeping on' with our messages of reality of what's really going on, as to ease off will simply play into their hands. The 'New World Order' (WEF) think we're not significant in the Control argument but they don't know how resilient and resolute we really are.
We should start, and continually announce to the world, the next Gates planned Scamdemic - before his establishment do. - such repetitive pre-warning might encourage some predictable human complacency - even if Fauci and friends actually prepared the next virus before he was dethroned?
Some still believe the artificially produced 'Scientific evidence' that proves that the Covid jab was created for the health & wellbeing of humanity! Due to the ineffectiveness of the injections (called vaccines), I actually believe the deadly injections (VACCINES) were conceived years before Covid was released. After being sufficiently tweaked by Fauci & friends for maximum impact on the world's population - just to justify a new profitable vax market. Coincidentally, a few short months before they announced the 'miracle injection' - just after Covid appeared (at 'Warp Speed' - my arse!)
The corrupted Governments, medical induastry and media has turned us all into - understandably, into = suspicious cynics!
Many of us (unjabbed) realise Coronavirus, modified by Fauci & Co, has links with bio-weapon technology and that the US military enable such deadly materials more leeway, during manufacture, to avoid normal safety and quality disciplines. Not to mention the 'Ineffective and Unsafe' nature of the shit that goes on to be sold.
The injections (stupidly referred to as "VACCINES") are created under similar less stringent health & safety quality control processes due to their Bio-weapon background and alternative 'military offensive' purposes.
LIABILITY COMPENSATION FOR VAX RELATED DEATHS and VAX RELATED INJURIES would end this CULL of humanity, organised by the Elite WEF. And back-dated to early 2020 would be reasonable!
My team (extended family) of 15 have no intention of accepting the next MANDATED INJECTION! We will ignore ALL rules, Laws, Mandates that Gates has planned through his puppets at the WHO. Instead, we'll be part of the army that will, depose Gates, Schwab, Tedros, Bourla, the WHO, the WEF, and all that intend SLAVERY.
Mick from Hooe (UK) Unjabbed to live longer.
I went to twitter to hear the recording of this today, but it's not clickable. Was it recorded? If so, the link to it doesn't work. I'll try again later today in case it has been fixed.
I did hear the earlier one where Dr. Gu chimes in. Twitter Spaces are great, but not always easy to find Spaces that are relevant.
Thank you for all you are doing!
Steve I love yah but I can’t listen to these debates. It makes me so angry being vac injured and the people on there you debate have zero common sense and just pisses me off more. Most of these ppl know they will never agree and are just looking for a fight! You can never convince some of them no matter how much data or evidence you place In their faces, they will still argue the opposite. How about a debate on how to fix us and stop the mandates? Once this cookie crumbles and the money is followed to the pharma and insurance companies what next? We are still injured m, no research and no cures. I love what you are doing but I say screw them and let’s work on a cure. You know and have enough proven injured already. You know I’ll volunteer as tribute but we will never get better just arguing the same things with the next paid debater to spew the msm bull crap fed to them over and over again. I feel like this is a way they are stalling us and to the main point which is save the children and get those who are injured in better health. We may not have as much time as we all think here on the physical earth to do it. Some less time than others. Let me know what you think! Good luck give ‘em hell which I know you will and when you are done send them my way for a chat in the backyard😂😂💙🫶💙
Always debate when available must be engaged. There is a great deal of active research on Covid and vaccine harms AND cures or help.
Apart from the brief times that I tried warning people about the death shot I have been largely misanthropic and avoiding contact or speaking with people and keeping to myself, caused by the issues highlighted in your comment which are just a small part of a big problem that after I woke up in 2011 I saw it was systematic and a civilization that's on its last legs.
One of the reasons why I avoided the shot was because I knew for decades first hand the way the system goes, starting with being run around in circles by the medical system when trying to get a medical downgrade for my military draft fitness status.
If I was affected negatively like yourself by this death shot I knew I will be ignored and silence. Nothing much has changed.
By engaging with the likes of Drew and Eugene we only let them keep stalling progress.
There's no point to engaging with these excrementous curs of the Abyss, for they are already damned.
There is every reason to engage in properly moderated debate.
The smoke & mirrors. Well this one smashed the mirror & blew away the smoke completely. https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/discussion-with-sam-dube-and-lara
wow.... although i am not surprised...
true story that sort of goes along with this:
i once asked my brother, "if he saw me with a spay can, and saw liquid spray coming out of the end of the nozzle onto some plants.... and few days later saw those plants welting and dying, but not other plants around them. would he conclude that i had killed the plants? "
"he told me he would have to know what was in the spay, and the mechanism of action was before he would come to that conclusion. "
of course, he knew where i was going with that line of conversation. the jab, etc.
i kind of dropped that approach. :(
STEVE -- did you get the recording ok? I had an iPod recording as a backup and got most of it except for when the battery needed charging and one or two intermittent times after that, but I do have a lot of the “Drew” content. Let me know if you want me to try to email it to you.
Thank you Steve. God bless you.
Lipid nanoparticle chemicals listed and further explained in 'Explanation of Ingredients' for Pfizer and Moderna:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414029370437402626/844017175978967111/unknown.png
OMG, Drew vs Cole at 1:45am EST
Why the heck didn't they allow them 1st instead of that Gu kid with an MD.
There's a certain arrogance when scientists say about the Titanic "but the ship can't sink" since we designed it to be unsinkable. Or nowadays: We designed the spikes in pre-fusion state to be unbindable and disintegrate.
That's the issue vs theory vs practice.
Steve, you are fighting a monolithic, ruthless, ancient, satanic, and global conspiracy. These vaccines are the result of decades of planning and research. They have worse stuff coming. Please keep fighting and exposing these criminals. God will give us the victory.