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Nice study of vaxxed vs unvaxxed survival rates after hospitalisation with either or both Flu and Covid. Not sure if you covered the aspect of the massive financial rewards paid to hospitals for every Covid death of every patient that was 'ventilated' (to DEATH)?

For 4 years I've been trying to obtain a reason for the most important inexplicable issue relating to the 'vax makers' who have been able to sidestep responsibility for their deadly products. These evil and mercenary injection makers are encouraged to continue to depopulate the planet with total impunity as they enjoy ZERO LIABILITY. It is the most bizarre condition for such a dangerous but profitable business practice. But nobody wants to explain the logic behind this insane condition of use.

Thanks!

Mick from Hooe (UK) Unjabbed to live longer!

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Very disappointing list.

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But there's a big kinda 'random' thing here. The chances of hospitalisation. You see there was/is no rigour to being hospitalised. Either hospitalised at all or hospitalised 'for covid'.

The 'for covid' thing gets much press even from critics like Kirsch. They claim many simply had a flu or whatever. That they got covid in hospital. That there is no covid. and so on.

We we can't have a reliable understanding of what it means to have a cohort that were hospitalised 'for covid'.

And similar applies to hospitalisations in any case.

The clear fact is that your risk of being hospitalised is a kinda 'political' risk. It depends on local politics.

And generally they went lunatic and hospitalised everyone. Which would effectively mask any true clinical needs. Is another aspect. Which should be clear enough from the records - if they really did that, as I say, hospitalised everyone madly - then hospitalisation numbers should have soared.

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Just left a lunch meeting with an old friend (age 57, I’m 51), who is off to have her flu jab and says she might get the shingles jab too.

I told her I never get those shots anymore and she said ever since she had pneumonia she gets the flu shot.

I didn’t even get into it, because she knows how I feel about it, but now I’ll have to just cross my fingers and pray, and hope that my friend doesn’t suffer a stroke or some other serious side effect from these vaccines.

I hate what the propaganda has done to people.

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How did that work out for your friend? Mick.

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Never trust "summaries" with percentages or "X times more than" statements. 2 people are 100% more people than 1 person. Always look for the number of participants, and where they came from.

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I like how the CDC post has to footnote the sentences with "variant" and "risk". As if those words should need a legal disclaimer attached to them.

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An amazing post and a very notable study!

I also discussed it:

https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/huge-veterans-study-covid-and-flu

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I guess the point is that since 55% of each group was boosted, for example, and both groups came from the same VA population, we can say for sure that being boosted isn't any better at keeping you out of the hospital for Covid than it is at keeping you out for the flu. And if we assume it's no good for the flu, then we can say it also must be no good for Covid. I guess I'm not confident enough about that to totally agree yet. What confounders might there be?

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Oct 19, 2023Liked by Steve Kirsch

I think our society will survive only if enough people learn how to think!

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The sampson senario becomes more viable?

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Ok, Isreal is most vaxxed country in world, was used as a guinea pig. They are unfortunatley paying a price at a horrible time.If it spins out of control and becomes protracted and multi fronts. They do not have enough people for the army

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Thanks Steve, please look at my Irael question about mrna and troop si e I would love your opionion or more facts

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OF COURSE THE COVID JAB DID NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE SIMPLY PUT IT IS NOT A VACCINE. WHEN WILL SOMEONE REALISE THIS. THE JAB IS A VERY DANGEROUS TOXIC SUBSTANCE DESCRIBED AS SIMILAR WITH SNAKE VENOM THAT ALSO CONTAINS SPIKE PROTIEN. CAN NEVER GET A LICENCE AS ONLY 1/3 REMAINS IN THE ARM MUSCLE THE REST SPREADS TO EVERY PART OF THE BODY CAUSING ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS SOME VERY SERIOUS. SOME CAN ONLY SHOW UP AFTER THREE YEARS. THE JAB IS MORE LIKLEY TO TO PUT ONE IN HOSPITAL.THE JAB REMOVES ONES NATURAL DEFENCES OF COVID SO MANY CATCH IT. THE JAB MEANS O0NE LOOSES ONES NATURAL IMMUNITY TO COVID.

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I am the wife of a Vietnam Veteran, sister of a Vietnam Veteran, daughter of a WWII Veteran, as well a niece of several uncles, my mom had 8 brothers all who were Veteran of WWII and/or Korea. From observing different VA centers, I can tell you that this study isn’t worth the paper on which it is written. Some VA Hospitals offer excellent care, some mediocre at best, and some are down right scary. Some Hospitals keep better records than others. So this paper doesn’t really compare apples to apples. You don’t have a clue as to the quality of prior care, hospital care, record keeping, etc. If only Covid and flu shots were the biggest concern of these veterans, their lives would, Should, and could be far better. Steve, thank you for reminding us of the importance of actual facts and valid reporting.

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REPEAT Commie Odd Vaccine Is Death , With all who weff shits all involved TIME TO HANG THESE EVIL TERRORIST CULPRITS

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