Jamie Andrews has a protocol where he claims that SARS-CoV-2 can be created de novo by starving a cell line of nutrients. I propose a high stakes experiment to settle the question.
I assume you don’t have any prior commitments that you could use to progress on this platform to intimidate people from pursuing their scientific experiments that may or may to not be favourable to your investments?
The paradigm shifters are often not wealthy or powerful people. I would run away from your "offer" as stated. I know that the virus paradigm is flawed, and I also know you are not asking the right question.
The fact that so few respond to Steve's generous offer illustrates the depth of the pseudoscientific rot. Real researchers and scientists jump at the chance to defend their "paradigms". It's not up to us to prove or disprove the existence of their imaginary dragons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJRy3Kl_z5E&t=2s
Carl Sagan’s “Dragon in my garage” is flawed because the application of the same “critical thinking” would disqualify cause and effect of things (causes) we can’t see and yet we know they exist because of their effects.
Sagan had also shied away from infinite regress; he refused to accept that all his theories about the universe and the existence of first cause would collapse if he had accepted an uncaused cause..
I didn't graduate college, so I'm befuddled by concepts like cause/effect and correlation/causation. I try to keep an open mind but, more often than not, the dragon isn't real.
Umm, you don't need a college education to understand concepts like cause/effect... Example: Don't take out the garbage and you'll hear about it from Dad, or watch it pile up and create lots of other problems. Even first graders can understand this. Same with correlation and causation. Example: We see fire trucks at scenes of fires all the time (firetrucks' correlation with fires) but the trucks don't actually cause the fires...
Getting high education does not guarantee acquiring real insights.
I happen to know someone who figured out a metabolic pathway - the cause of a disorder affecting over a billion of people - before the entry into the “high-minded schools of thought” ;-)
Reality is a vague concept on subatomic level.
Steven Weinberg said:
“After you learn quantum mechanics you’re really not the same again”.
The Wright brothers — with a home library, no college degrees, and a bike shop — kicked off the age of flight. Their main competitor, Samuel P. Langley, a professor of mathematics with grants from the U.S. government and the Smithsonian, crashed into the Potomac." https://www.amazon.com/Life-After-Google-Blockchain-Economy/dp/1621575764
Easily verified? Okay - here's a simple question for you that should be easily verified: WHEN, WHERE, WHY, WHAT and WHO P R O V E D that HIV 1) attacks human cells and 2) causes AIDS? Waiting breathlessly for your response.
SAD - Steve has decided that only those who pay will be able to comment - and we have to download the App. This is despicable. We - the awake people - don't like being boxed and told what to do. I have written many supporting posts here - but I have a different view on the "virus" - and from all the support I have had to my posts - I am not alone. Steve has decided he wants a bubble - and money - to be part of the concepts here.. I am fiercely INDEPENDANT. I will not be apart of any bubble - I think and comment in truth. I will not support coercion in any form. And I see now - more than ever - that Steve is perhaps - compromised.
sure - I agree - I strongly support most of what Steve does - I just don't like what he has just done - it was a free place for discourse and now you have to pay - like he needs the money.
I don't have a "space" - I am just a punter - but a serious one. I am saying if he is serious about getting the most support then locking people out because they have not paid is not a good way to do it. Another guy did this - I don't support him any more.
Markers are clues. They MAY be correlative but none are definitive. Technologies like Flow Cytometry present markers, but most markers are meaningless - and doctors who rely on them perform at a much lower standard than we expect of ordinary policemen.
When I was a policeman, I routinely observed "markers" related to drunk driving that prompted me to stop them. Those markers didn't mean they were drunk - it meant only that I'd seen something anomalous to good driving practices. Professional cops require more than anomalies (markers) and blood/alcohol tests.
There is a strong correlation between bad driving and drunk drivers, which is why correlation is never enough.
When I stopped a suspected drunk driver, I approached and asked for a driver license and registration. I noted the smell of his breath and car interior and looked at his eyes for symptoms of intoxication (nystagmus, strabismus, watery eyes, dilated or constricted pupils, an unfocused gaze, etc.) as they retrieved their license and registration.
Fumbling hands or other signs of impairment weren't enough either. I asked if he/she was sick or under the care of a physician or on medication. I sometimes asked if they needed medical attention (paramedics) because it's bad form to arrest victims of stroke or diabetic shock for drunk driving.
BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO ARREST.
I then asked the driver to step from his car and asked further questions to rule out medical or physical impairments. I then demonstrated the field sobriety test for them to perform. Only if they were 1) unable to perform the test as demonstrated AND 2) they expressed no other reasonable explanation for their impairment, I then could render an opinion that he/she was intoxicated and unable to safely drive a motor vehicle.
Then - and ONLY THEN - I had reasonable probable cause to believe that the elements of drunk driving existed. I then used the Gas Chronograph Intoximeter (GCI, blood or urine test) to CONFIRM my observations, i.e., my "diagnosis".
Medical practitioners use a far lower standard than policemen, routinely ordering unknown and untested third parties at testing facilities to use mostly Chinese-made "tests" to screen for whatever the tests are alleged to screen for.
Having examined 100+ medical records of HIV+ patients, I've typically found that Doctor A ordered a screening test. When the test returned positive or reactive, Doctor A referred "the case" to Doctor B, who usually assumes that Doctor A diagnosed, while Doctor A assumes that Doctor B diagnosed; while BOTH A & B ASSUME that the test can accurately detect "markers" that accurately identify the presence of an alleged "marker". With this "medical standard of care", our medical experts are held to a much lower standard than street cops who are tasked with arresting drunk drivers.
Consider the use of RADAR to facilitate speed enforcement:
If I observe a car traveling at 35MPH and my RADAR pings 90MPH, I wouldn't cite the driver because my observations conflict with what the device reports. In such cases, I dismissed their 90MPH "marker" and sent the device back for service and recalibration because we use RADAR not to "catch speeders", but to confirm our trained observations. And while the high frequency 90MPH tone presents a "marker" that identifies a speeder, those markers are only reliable if used to CONFIRM the presence of other observable facts that have nothing to do with speeding cars.
Just as cops who rely on technology to diagnose speeders and drunks are incompetent, doctors who rely on tests to diagnose diseases are just as incompetent - the difference being that doctors will blindly poison and kill their patients under a pretext of care.
Tests are only as reliable as the invention, operators and practitioners - and most practitioners do not (and have never read) the related package inserts that explain what I present in this narrative.
I don't ask practitioners to read or understand all of the obfuscatory pseudoscientific gibberish printed on package inserts - I simply ask them to focus and understand the LIMITATIONS section of the test package insert. And if those limitations aren't complete - as is the case of PCR and EUA package inserts - doctors have an ethical obligation to presume that the test is meaningless. Practitioners must examine their patients completely. If the symptoms and underlying causes are not present, they must dismiss the test results.
Virology is to biology what astrology is to astrophysics. Their church offers a eucharist of drugs and vaccines. Their clerics condemn us as "denialists", because calling us "heretics" would betray their pseudoscience as a theocracy. Believe in their church and your faith will kill you. https://twitter.com/i/status/1587790649025347586
The problem with that idea is there are so many virologist it's hard to believe they all participate in a fraud.
According to AI.
It's difficult to give an exact number of virologists worldwide, as it's constantly changing due to factors such as new graduates, retirements, and career shifts. However, I can provide an estimate based on available data.
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there are approximately 100,000 infectious disease specialists globally, which includes virologists, epidemiologists, and other related professionals. Virologists are a subset of this group, so let's assume that about 20% to 30% of these specialists are virologists. This would put the approximate number of virologists at 20,000 to 30,000 worldwide.
However, this is a rough estimate, and the actual number could be higher or lower. Factors such as regional distribution, the scope of their work (e.g., research, clinical, or public health), and the definition of "virologist" can also affect the accuracy of this estimate.
Consensus and fear make it hard for honest virologists to push back against the fraud.
AI isn't intelligent - it is biased.
Available data is questionable.
The number of virologists isn't as important as the fact that NOT ONE was skeptical about the Covid operation and willing to raise questions.
The so-called Father of Virology" Thomas Rivers once boasted:
"(I)t’s against the law to do many things, but the law winks when a reputable man wants to do a scientific experiment. For example, the criminal code of the City of New York holds that is a felony to inject a person with infectious material. Well, I tested out live yellow fever vaccine right on my ward in the Rockefeller Hospital. It was no secret, and I assure you that the people in the New York City Department of Health knew it was being done. Unless the law winks occasionally, you have no progress in medicine."
Parenzee was before my time. I don't argue pseudoscientific theologians. My investigation revealed the following:
* HIV IS REAL: I acquired and photographed copies of Montagnier’s original LAV.
* AIDS IS REAL: The immune systems of all living organisms eventually acquire an immune deficiency syndrome and die.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV naturally exists in human blood.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV causes AIDS.
* PCR is a good technology - PCR DIAGNOSTICS are a total fraud.
Sequencing, antibody, antigen, flow cytometry are variations of the same shell game - designed to convince reasonably healthy people that they are infected with an imaginary disease that will kill them (and their loved ones) UNLESS they subject themselves to further indignities and take costly drugs that will eventually kill them.
Luc Montagnier admitted as much when he said that HIV can be cured within weeks with clean water and good nutrition (WITHOUT drugs or vaccines), but that drugs and vaccines are pushed because their's no money in clean water and good nutrition. https://youtu.be/PyPq-waF-h4?t=1040
Not one of your wagers has proven a damn thing to this point.
They didn't isolate the virus. FACT. The PCR tests were based on in Silico - derived (contrived) consensus genomes. Not to mention over cycling and manipulating which genes to target equating lighting up genes not specific to any thing novel. Since no quantified isolates were available . . .
At this point everything in the wild now is influenced by them having injected the majority of the world with that which they claim they were looking for to start with.
There was no CoV2 in the wild until they started injecting it.
This word "science" has been overused for years and we don't even realize how ridiculous the entire field of science has become. We really have to try hard and come up with something else if we want to discover the reality of nature.
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Steve! How will the biological sample for Side B be obtained? What are the criteria for getting that sample? Does it need to be a person with active "COVID" symptoms? Nasal swab? How many twists, and how high in the nose? Will that "Side B" sample be PCR tested first to confirm there is actually SARS CoV-2 there, according to PCR testing?
OR
Will sample sputum or nasal "juice" from a patient thought to have "COVID" be put in a Petri dish with not enough nutrients (matching Side A) and the same antibiotics used as "Side A" and then the outcome pipetted out to create the "read" for sequencing?
Also, you should add that both "reads" (inputs) get to be sequenced for ALL viral genomes, not just SARS CoV-2. Do that!
If I were Jamie or Alec, I wouldn't agree to this bet until I'd done my own sequencing, which I don't think they have done yet. They only have some visual identification to go on for now, right? You are saying the ring around their "covid" viral particle is not the right color. They are not ready for this bet, IMHO, and I REALLY REALLY want to see the outcome. but I'm willing to wait.
How about something more collaborative for the sake of science and expediting our knowledge base? Could you instead help Jamie and Alec by offering to sequence what they have visually identified for many or all viruses?
Another collab could be offering to put a sample from someone with "COVID" into a Petri dish with nutrients and see if anything happens, then try low/no nutrients, then try low/no nutrients and antibiotics. Why not try to reproduce the biology Jamie's team has done?
Collab a little, Steve! You know I'm a huge fan of yours. Trying to help here, in the name of science.
The paradigm shifters are often not wealthy or powerful people. I would run away from your "offer" as stated. I know that the virus paradigm is flawed, and I also know you are not asking the right question.
I took part in some high stakes experiments that began in 2009.
In 2008, I was hired to investigate allegations against UC Berkeley Professor Peter Duesberg who was accused of committing genocide in South Africa when, in 2000, he convinced then-president Thabo Mbeki to NOT give toxic HIV meds to his people. Despite withering attacks (the 16-year lawfare against me continues to this day), I established that no genocide had occurred. The Duesberg investigation lead me to this basic 5W question - WHEN, WHERE, WHY, WHAT and WHO P R O V E D that HIV 1) attacks human cells and 2) causes AIDS?
The NIH and CDC refused to answer. Instead, they referred me to several "social marketing" (propaganda) contractors (Edelman & Danya) that have no obligation to tell the truth. The NIH/CDC websites still post disclaimers about the third party websites they refer difficult inquiries to.
Back then, Big Pharma drafted and lobbied laws that criminalized HIV as a felony of which some people continue to serve life prison sentences. I put together a team of doctors, scientists, and lawyers to compel gov’t witnesses - "infectious disease experts" (Fauci’s clerics) to testify about the things that the CDC and NIH refused to discuss.
Our first case involved an active duty USMC service member who, after a night of heavy drinking, was raped while unconscious. Three days later, THE RAPIST discovered through social media that the RAPE VICTIM was HIV+. The RAPIST notified the authorities and the Marine Corps ARRESTED THE RAPE VICTIM FOR EXPOSING HIS ATTACKER TO HIV(!).
After being notified of the case, I met with the Chief Defense Counsel of the Marine Corps and, after explaining the facts of the case - the problems with testing and that military lawyers could not effectively defend their client, my team was brought in pro hac to handle the technical aspects for the defense. Our team included an attorney with years of post-doc scientific training, an MD with years of practice and post-doc research of the immune system, and the patent holder of the HIV PCR test.
The stakes were high because, if convicted, our client faced 32 years at USDB Fort Leavenworth and, if he survived prison and years of forced HIV drugs, he faced deportation as a Mexican national.
Prosecutors called their expert, a decorated Balboa Naval Hospital Navy Commander who, at the time, managed all infectious disease cases for the Navy and Marine Corps. He testified that numerous HIV tests and confirmatory tests proved that our client was HIV+.
The Marine's medical records established that the asymptomatic Marine had tested positive years earlier during a pre-deployment screening and that the doctor who ordered the test did not understand the results of the test. "Doctor A" then referred the case to "specialist" "Doctor B", who also reported no evidence of an infection. Both doctors A & B assumed that the other had diagnosed the Marine AND assumed that the PCR test could accurately detect a disease. After his non-diagnosis, the Marine was then prescribed the highly addictive psychotropic drug Atripla, ostensibly as a prophylactic, to prevent the spread of HIV. Like ALL HIV "treatments", Atripla contains toxins that eventually destroy liver and kidney function. If taken long enough, all HIV drugs compromise the immune system and lead to an ACQUIRED IMMUNE DEFICIENCY SYNDROME (AIDS).
During our cross examination of the Navy's top infectious disease expert, It took roughly 30 minutes before the prosecution's expert medical witness admitted that he knew virtually nothing about the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of HIV or AIDS. We then called the patent holder of the PCR test who testified that the PCR test THAT HE INVENTED does not and can not accurately detect HIV (or any other disease).
After 200+ days in custody, our client was released and transferred to another duty station, where he reenlisted and eventually promoted. He later thanked me for saving his life and military career.
Around 2013, our defense team began to use the services at the electron microscope (EM) lab at U Mass Worcester to see if HIV could be seen in blood samples. To test our suspicions, we drew 20ml blood from HIV+ patients and sent 10ml to Quest, LabCorp, and Walter Reed for testing. All reported "millions of HIV particles" per ML. We then sent the other 10ml (from the same draws) for electron microscopy, spun it, and REPEATEDLY FOUND N O T H I N G - proving in numerous state and federal courts that the tests are, at best, a pseudoscientific fraud against, at the very least, US taxpayers.
Another problem (there are many) is that all testing labs are licensed by CLIA and CLEP, which are also owned and controlled by the pharmaceutical manufacturers of their fake tests.
Despite high HIV "viral load" counts, we found N O T H I N G with EM.
When Walter Reed Army Hospital (which partners with Big Pharma) claimed that HIV cannot be seen in human blood, I drew 20ml from my arm and spiked it with cultured HIV that I acquired from the NIH. We easily spotted and photographed the 80nm particles. According to the head of the EM lab, he'd photographed HIV hundreds of times since the 1980s, but this was the FIRST TIME HE ACTUALLY OBSERVED HIV IN HUMAN BLOOD.
The clerics at Walter Reed responded by accusing me of unlawfully using EM for "diagnostic purposes". I countered that licensed private investigators are permitted to use any optical device to determine, 1) whether nano-sized evidence (including retroviruses) are present and 2) whether an alleged bug actually causes an alleged disease (pathogenicity).
With that, Walter Reed issued an affidavit claiming (falsely) that I was using a non-accredited lab to "diagnose" our criminal defendants. The USAF prosecutor suggested that U Mass could lose their annual $150M in grant funding (i.e., bribes) if they continued to assist us. With that, USAF prosecutors successfully threatened and silenced our untenured EM expert, which ended all of our efforts to use EM to confirm accurate test results. Witness tampering (18 U.S. Code §1512) is a felony UNLESS committed by the US Government. We won that case, but the Deep State doesn't prosecute their agents and co-conspirators.
My experiences with HIV and Covid testing lead me to believe that most biological tests are designed to provoke reasonably healthy asymptomatic people that they will die without costly, toxic, and unnecessary medical interventions that will eventually kill them; and that, when they die, the CDC uses their preventable iatrogenic deaths to justify additional funding to protect us from what appears to be no more than a harmless laboratory artifact that does not exist naturally in human blood or tissues.
Like the HIV PCR "test", the Covid tests don’t detect a virus or reliable “markers”, and it’s easy to spot these facts by examining the package insert of each test. Get past the pseudoscientific gibberish and go straight to the LIMITATIONS. Anyone can read them - but you must read them carefully.
As a result of the USMC case, we successfully defended DOZENS of criminal HIV cases across the US that included the landmark case US v. Gutierrez (2015) that effectively ended all criminal HIV prosecutions across the US.
Did your client ever get sequencing done for HIV? You wrote that "numerous HIV tests and confirmatory tests proved that our client was HIV+". So did they include antibody or antigen tests in addition to a PCR test?
Electron microscopy is an unusual way to detect an HIV infection, so if for example a virus was detected in a sample by genetic sequencing but not by EM, I would guess that EM was incorrect.
Has there ever even been an experiment where the accuracy of EM would've been tested against other diagnostic methods? If for example 100 samples that contained a virus and 100 samples that didn't contain a virus would've been inspected by EM, would EM be able to predict which samples contained a virus more accurately than PCR testing?
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You wrote: "the PCR test THAT HE INVENTED does not and can not accurately detect HIV (or any other disease)." HIV is not even a disease, so did he say that PCR was not an accurate way to detect the virus or to diagnose a disease?
During the Parenzee trial when Mullis was asked to confirm a claim by the Perth Group that PCR was a flawed technology for diagnosing HIV, he answered: "I will not try to convince anyone that PCR can be used successfully to specifically make multiple copies of any nucleic acid sequence that can be uniquely defined by two 'primer target sequences' comprising the termini of the sequence of interest. The veracity of this no longer has anything to do with me. I think this has been confirmed by a huge number of laboratories around the world. The rapid spread of this simple technology would not have occurred had it been ineffectual or flawed in any persistent way." (http://aras.ab.ca/articles/legal/McDonald-Mullis.html) And he said that "the AIDS/HIV issue is what is not settled scientifically, not the effectiveness of PCR".
Parenzee was before my time. I don't argue pseudoscientific theologians. My investigation revealed the following:
* HIV IS REAL: I acquired and photographed copies of Montagnier’s original LAV.
* AIDS IS REAL: The immune systems of all living organisms eventually acquire an immune deficiency syndrome and die.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV naturally exists in human blood.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV causes AIDS.
* PCR is a good technology - PCR DIAGNOSTICS are a total fraud.
Sequencing, antibody, antigen, flow cytometry are variations of the same shell game - designed to convince reasonably healthy people that they are infected with an imaginary disease that will kill them (and their loved ones) UNLESS they subject themselves to further indignities and take costly drugs that will eventually kill them.
Luc Montagnier admitted as much when he said that HIV can be cured within weeks with clean water and good nutrition (WITHOUT drugs or vaccines), but that drugs and vaccines are pushed because their's no money in clean water and good nutrition. https://youtu.be/PyPq-waF-h4?t=1040
I'd reveal more but 16-years of lawfare has taken its toll and a federal court prohibits me from sharing much of the Fauci-funded depravity and the players, bureaucracies, NGOs, and three-letter agencies involved.
I've been watching the senate hearings on the Covid Virus Origins. Not one word, not one syllable on "No-Virus" theories. Shows the reality that everybody who counts sees that as a crackpot theory, like talking about flat earth theories.
I’m not a virologist or a microbiologist, but I can tell you one thing… this “very argument,” is the killer hand the Fauci’s and Gates of the world have been waiting for! This is their "walk off into the sunset free men" card! When the crunch finally comes and these men are being tried in front of a jury… all they’re going to say is … “Look your honour… these whackos don’t even believe viruses exist!” And from there… all we’re going to get, is a never ending scientific circus that goes back and forth forever and a day, until it’s all thrown out of court. Let alone the issues regarding the following proposed scenario….
Everything points to Shadow Gov't/Deep State involvement and, until the CIA/DOJ/FBI are blown up and held accountable, our elected representatives, courts, and individuals cannot expose their operations without the risk of a lengthy prison sentence or worse. HIV is one of many political pretexts for regime change, population control, acquisition for mineral wealth, money laundering, tax fraud, and totalitarianism, that funds black CIA operations and meets all of the objectives and recommendations cited in the "Report from Iron Mountain (1967)" and "The Kissinger Report (1976)"
Only one person, as of 6/19/24, was willing to wager $50K or more on the "no virus" side. ONE PERSON.
Steve,
I assume you don’t have any prior commitments that you could use to progress on this platform to intimidate people from pursuing their scientific experiments that may or may to not be favourable to your investments?
Yea you should assume that he’s honest & forthright given his reputation & no evidence to the contrary.
Fair enough…
WHO?
Don't use your money to bludgeon people.
This question touches paradigms.
The paradigm shifters are often not wealthy or powerful people. I would run away from your "offer" as stated. I know that the virus paradigm is flawed, and I also know you are not asking the right question.
Isn’t Steve using his money to get to the truth?
The fact that so few respond to Steve's generous offer illustrates the depth of the pseudoscientific rot. Real researchers and scientists jump at the chance to defend their "paradigms". It's not up to us to prove or disprove the existence of their imaginary dragons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJRy3Kl_z5E&t=2s
Carl Sagan’s “Dragon in my garage” is flawed because the application of the same “critical thinking” would disqualify cause and effect of things (causes) we can’t see and yet we know they exist because of their effects.
Sagan had also shied away from infinite regress; he refused to accept that all his theories about the universe and the existence of first cause would collapse if he had accepted an uncaused cause..
I didn't graduate college, so I'm befuddled by concepts like cause/effect and correlation/causation. I try to keep an open mind but, more often than not, the dragon isn't real.
Umm, you don't need a college education to understand concepts like cause/effect... Example: Don't take out the garbage and you'll hear about it from Dad, or watch it pile up and create lots of other problems. Even first graders can understand this. Same with correlation and causation. Example: We see fire trucks at scenes of fires all the time (firetrucks' correlation with fires) but the trucks don't actually cause the fires...
Getting high education does not guarantee acquiring real insights.
I happen to know someone who figured out a metabolic pathway - the cause of a disorder affecting over a billion of people - before the entry into the “high-minded schools of thought” ;-)
Reality is a vague concept on subatomic level.
Steven Weinberg said:
“After you learn quantum mechanics you’re really not the same again”.
It is true ;-)
https://youtu.be/4Z8Ma2YT8vY?si=uasZmkRYWz5ETsEQ&t=3095
The Wright brothers — with a home library, no college degrees, and a bike shop — kicked off the age of flight. Their main competitor, Samuel P. Langley, a professor of mathematics with grants from the U.S. government and the Smithsonian, crashed into the Potomac." https://www.amazon.com/Life-After-Google-Blockchain-Economy/dp/1621575764
Except for engineering, college is a waste of money and time. If you're intellectually curious, you don't need college. If you are NOT intellectually curious, college can't help you. https://rumble.com/v2hlw4c-college-conspiracy-2011.html?start=5
Easily verified? Okay - here's a simple question for you that should be easily verified: WHEN, WHERE, WHY, WHAT and WHO P R O V E D that HIV 1) attacks human cells and 2) causes AIDS? Waiting breathlessly for your response.
Jamie already proved virology is fraudulent. The end.
SAD - Steve has decided that only those who pay will be able to comment - and we have to download the App. This is despicable. We - the awake people - don't like being boxed and told what to do. I have written many supporting posts here - but I have a different view on the "virus" - and from all the support I have had to my posts - I am not alone. Steve has decided he wants a bubble - and money - to be part of the concepts here.. I am fiercely INDEPENDANT. I will not be apart of any bubble - I think and comment in truth. I will not support coercion in any form. And I see now - more than ever - that Steve is perhaps - compromised.
Let me know when you have done 1% of what Steve Kirsch has done to fight vaccine tyrants.
sure - I agree - I strongly support most of what Steve does - I just don't like what he has just done - it was a free place for discourse and now you have to pay - like he needs the money.
I don't think it's about need for money per se, he's just trying to get serious people involved.
And it's just a proposal. Write up your own proposal in your Substack space. It might be better.
I don't have a "space" - I am just a punter - but a serious one. I am saying if he is serious about getting the most support then locking people out because they have not paid is not a good way to do it. Another guy did this - I don't support him any more.
Markers are clues. They MAY be correlative but none are definitive. Technologies like Flow Cytometry present markers, but most markers are meaningless - and doctors who rely on them perform at a much lower standard than we expect of ordinary policemen.
When I was a policeman, I routinely observed "markers" related to drunk driving that prompted me to stop them. Those markers didn't mean they were drunk - it meant only that I'd seen something anomalous to good driving practices. Professional cops require more than anomalies (markers) and blood/alcohol tests.
There is a strong correlation between bad driving and drunk drivers, which is why correlation is never enough.
When I stopped a suspected drunk driver, I approached and asked for a driver license and registration. I noted the smell of his breath and car interior and looked at his eyes for symptoms of intoxication (nystagmus, strabismus, watery eyes, dilated or constricted pupils, an unfocused gaze, etc.) as they retrieved their license and registration.
Fumbling hands or other signs of impairment weren't enough either. I asked if he/she was sick or under the care of a physician or on medication. I sometimes asked if they needed medical attention (paramedics) because it's bad form to arrest victims of stroke or diabetic shock for drunk driving.
BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO ARREST.
I then asked the driver to step from his car and asked further questions to rule out medical or physical impairments. I then demonstrated the field sobriety test for them to perform. Only if they were 1) unable to perform the test as demonstrated AND 2) they expressed no other reasonable explanation for their impairment, I then could render an opinion that he/she was intoxicated and unable to safely drive a motor vehicle.
Then - and ONLY THEN - I had reasonable probable cause to believe that the elements of drunk driving existed. I then used the Gas Chronograph Intoximeter (GCI, blood or urine test) to CONFIRM my observations, i.e., my "diagnosis".
Medical practitioners use a far lower standard than policemen, routinely ordering unknown and untested third parties at testing facilities to use mostly Chinese-made "tests" to screen for whatever the tests are alleged to screen for.
Having examined 100+ medical records of HIV+ patients, I've typically found that Doctor A ordered a screening test. When the test returned positive or reactive, Doctor A referred "the case" to Doctor B, who usually assumes that Doctor A diagnosed, while Doctor A assumes that Doctor B diagnosed; while BOTH A & B ASSUME that the test can accurately detect "markers" that accurately identify the presence of an alleged "marker". With this "medical standard of care", our medical experts are held to a much lower standard than street cops who are tasked with arresting drunk drivers.
Consider the use of RADAR to facilitate speed enforcement:
If I observe a car traveling at 35MPH and my RADAR pings 90MPH, I wouldn't cite the driver because my observations conflict with what the device reports. In such cases, I dismissed their 90MPH "marker" and sent the device back for service and recalibration because we use RADAR not to "catch speeders", but to confirm our trained observations. And while the high frequency 90MPH tone presents a "marker" that identifies a speeder, those markers are only reliable if used to CONFIRM the presence of other observable facts that have nothing to do with speeding cars.
Just as cops who rely on technology to diagnose speeders and drunks are incompetent, doctors who rely on tests to diagnose diseases are just as incompetent - the difference being that doctors will blindly poison and kill their patients under a pretext of care.
Tests are only as reliable as the invention, operators and practitioners - and most practitioners do not (and have never read) the related package inserts that explain what I present in this narrative.
I don't ask practitioners to read or understand all of the obfuscatory pseudoscientific gibberish printed on package inserts - I simply ask them to focus and understand the LIMITATIONS section of the test package insert. And if those limitations aren't complete - as is the case of PCR and EUA package inserts - doctors have an ethical obligation to presume that the test is meaningless. Practitioners must examine their patients completely. If the symptoms and underlying causes are not present, they must dismiss the test results.
Doctors are rarely challenged on their decisions, police are often challenged.
I sometimes feel as though doctors are treated as some sort of "high order priest" beyond questioning.
Virology is to biology what astrology is to astrophysics. Their church offers a eucharist of drugs and vaccines. Their clerics condemn us as "denialists", because calling us "heretics" would betray their pseudoscience as a theocracy. Believe in their church and your faith will kill you. https://twitter.com/i/status/1587790649025347586
The problem with that idea is there are so many virologist it's hard to believe they all participate in a fraud.
According to AI.
It's difficult to give an exact number of virologists worldwide, as it's constantly changing due to factors such as new graduates, retirements, and career shifts. However, I can provide an estimate based on available data.
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there are approximately 100,000 infectious disease specialists globally, which includes virologists, epidemiologists, and other related professionals. Virologists are a subset of this group, so let's assume that about 20% to 30% of these specialists are virologists. This would put the approximate number of virologists at 20,000 to 30,000 worldwide.
However, this is a rough estimate, and the actual number could be higher or lower. Factors such as regional distribution, the scope of their work (e.g., research, clinical, or public health), and the definition of "virologist" can also affect the accuracy of this estimate.
Consensus and fear make it hard for honest virologists to push back against the fraud.
AI isn't intelligent - it is biased.
Available data is questionable.
The number of virologists isn't as important as the fact that NOT ONE was skeptical about the Covid operation and willing to raise questions.
The so-called Father of Virology" Thomas Rivers once boasted:
"(I)t’s against the law to do many things, but the law winks when a reputable man wants to do a scientific experiment. For example, the criminal code of the City of New York holds that is a felony to inject a person with infectious material. Well, I tested out live yellow fever vaccine right on my ward in the Rockefeller Hospital. It was no secret, and I assure you that the people in the New York City Department of Health knew it was being done. Unless the law winks occasionally, you have no progress in medicine."
Virologists have been winking from the start.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=virologist+that+spoke+out+about+covid
How many at the NIH, CDC, or CIA?
Parenzee was before my time. I don't argue pseudoscientific theologians. My investigation revealed the following:
* HIV IS REAL: I acquired and photographed copies of Montagnier’s original LAV.
* AIDS IS REAL: The immune systems of all living organisms eventually acquire an immune deficiency syndrome and die.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV naturally exists in human blood.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV causes AIDS.
* PCR is a good technology - PCR DIAGNOSTICS are a total fraud.
Sequencing, antibody, antigen, flow cytometry are variations of the same shell game - designed to convince reasonably healthy people that they are infected with an imaginary disease that will kill them (and their loved ones) UNLESS they subject themselves to further indignities and take costly drugs that will eventually kill them.
Luc Montagnier admitted as much when he said that HIV can be cured within weeks with clean water and good nutrition (WITHOUT drugs or vaccines), but that drugs and vaccines are pushed because their's no money in clean water and good nutrition. https://youtu.be/PyPq-waF-h4?t=1040
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/premeditated-mass-poisoning-mercury#media-1ae077bf-c576-4809-a173-2c569ca3ae4e
Not one of your wagers has proven a damn thing to this point.
They didn't isolate the virus. FACT. The PCR tests were based on in Silico - derived (contrived) consensus genomes. Not to mention over cycling and manipulating which genes to target equating lighting up genes not specific to any thing novel. Since no quantified isolates were available . . .
At this point everything in the wild now is influenced by them having injected the majority of the world with that which they claim they were looking for to start with.
There was no CoV2 in the wild until they started injecting it.
Correction: there still is no COV2 in the wild - even after they injected people with poison 🙃
This word "science" has been overused for years and we don't even realize how ridiculous the entire field of science has become. We really have to try hard and come up with something else if we want to discover the reality of nature.
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Steve! How will the biological sample for Side B be obtained? What are the criteria for getting that sample? Does it need to be a person with active "COVID" symptoms? Nasal swab? How many twists, and how high in the nose? Will that "Side B" sample be PCR tested first to confirm there is actually SARS CoV-2 there, according to PCR testing?
OR
Will sample sputum or nasal "juice" from a patient thought to have "COVID" be put in a Petri dish with not enough nutrients (matching Side A) and the same antibiotics used as "Side A" and then the outcome pipetted out to create the "read" for sequencing?
Also, you should add that both "reads" (inputs) get to be sequenced for ALL viral genomes, not just SARS CoV-2. Do that!
If I were Jamie or Alec, I wouldn't agree to this bet until I'd done my own sequencing, which I don't think they have done yet. They only have some visual identification to go on for now, right? You are saying the ring around their "covid" viral particle is not the right color. They are not ready for this bet, IMHO, and I REALLY REALLY want to see the outcome. but I'm willing to wait.
How about something more collaborative for the sake of science and expediting our knowledge base? Could you instead help Jamie and Alec by offering to sequence what they have visually identified for many or all viruses?
Another collab could be offering to put a sample from someone with "COVID" into a Petri dish with nutrients and see if anything happens, then try low/no nutrients, then try low/no nutrients and antibiotics. Why not try to reproduce the biology Jamie's team has done?
Collab a little, Steve! You know I'm a huge fan of yours. Trying to help here, in the name of science.
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SARS-CoV-2 …
Still Only “Poised” For Human Emergence.
Show Me A Poison
That Is Self - Replicating.
There Is No There - THERE.
Gain Of Function Is
Gain Of Failure.
“Poised”. Only “Poised”. Still Poised To Fail.
Don't use your money to bludgeon people.
This question touches paradigms.
The paradigm shifters are often not wealthy or powerful people. I would run away from your "offer" as stated. I know that the virus paradigm is flawed, and I also know you are not asking the right question.
I took part in some high stakes experiments that began in 2009.
In 2008, I was hired to investigate allegations against UC Berkeley Professor Peter Duesberg who was accused of committing genocide in South Africa when, in 2000, he convinced then-president Thabo Mbeki to NOT give toxic HIV meds to his people. Despite withering attacks (the 16-year lawfare against me continues to this day), I established that no genocide had occurred. The Duesberg investigation lead me to this basic 5W question - WHEN, WHERE, WHY, WHAT and WHO P R O V E D that HIV 1) attacks human cells and 2) causes AIDS?
The NIH and CDC refused to answer. Instead, they referred me to several "social marketing" (propaganda) contractors (Edelman & Danya) that have no obligation to tell the truth. The NIH/CDC websites still post disclaimers about the third party websites they refer difficult inquiries to.
Back then, Big Pharma drafted and lobbied laws that criminalized HIV as a felony of which some people continue to serve life prison sentences. I put together a team of doctors, scientists, and lawyers to compel gov’t witnesses - "infectious disease experts" (Fauci’s clerics) to testify about the things that the CDC and NIH refused to discuss.
Our first case involved an active duty USMC service member who, after a night of heavy drinking, was raped while unconscious. Three days later, THE RAPIST discovered through social media that the RAPE VICTIM was HIV+. The RAPIST notified the authorities and the Marine Corps ARRESTED THE RAPE VICTIM FOR EXPOSING HIS ATTACKER TO HIV(!).
After being notified of the case, I met with the Chief Defense Counsel of the Marine Corps and, after explaining the facts of the case - the problems with testing and that military lawyers could not effectively defend their client, my team was brought in pro hac to handle the technical aspects for the defense. Our team included an attorney with years of post-doc scientific training, an MD with years of practice and post-doc research of the immune system, and the patent holder of the HIV PCR test.
The stakes were high because, if convicted, our client faced 32 years at USDB Fort Leavenworth and, if he survived prison and years of forced HIV drugs, he faced deportation as a Mexican national.
Prosecutors called their expert, a decorated Balboa Naval Hospital Navy Commander who, at the time, managed all infectious disease cases for the Navy and Marine Corps. He testified that numerous HIV tests and confirmatory tests proved that our client was HIV+.
The Marine's medical records established that the asymptomatic Marine had tested positive years earlier during a pre-deployment screening and that the doctor who ordered the test did not understand the results of the test. "Doctor A" then referred the case to "specialist" "Doctor B", who also reported no evidence of an infection. Both doctors A & B assumed that the other had diagnosed the Marine AND assumed that the PCR test could accurately detect a disease. After his non-diagnosis, the Marine was then prescribed the highly addictive psychotropic drug Atripla, ostensibly as a prophylactic, to prevent the spread of HIV. Like ALL HIV "treatments", Atripla contains toxins that eventually destroy liver and kidney function. If taken long enough, all HIV drugs compromise the immune system and lead to an ACQUIRED IMMUNE DEFICIENCY SYNDROME (AIDS).
During our cross examination of the Navy's top infectious disease expert, It took roughly 30 minutes before the prosecution's expert medical witness admitted that he knew virtually nothing about the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of HIV or AIDS. We then called the patent holder of the PCR test who testified that the PCR test THAT HE INVENTED does not and can not accurately detect HIV (or any other disease).
After 200+ days in custody, our client was released and transferred to another duty station, where he reenlisted and eventually promoted. He later thanked me for saving his life and military career.
Around 2013, our defense team began to use the services at the electron microscope (EM) lab at U Mass Worcester to see if HIV could be seen in blood samples. To test our suspicions, we drew 20ml blood from HIV+ patients and sent 10ml to Quest, LabCorp, and Walter Reed for testing. All reported "millions of HIV particles" per ML. We then sent the other 10ml (from the same draws) for electron microscopy, spun it, and REPEATEDLY FOUND N O T H I N G - proving in numerous state and federal courts that the tests are, at best, a pseudoscientific fraud against, at the very least, US taxpayers.
Another problem (there are many) is that all testing labs are licensed by CLIA and CLEP, which are also owned and controlled by the pharmaceutical manufacturers of their fake tests.
Despite high HIV "viral load" counts, we found N O T H I N G with EM.
When Walter Reed Army Hospital (which partners with Big Pharma) claimed that HIV cannot be seen in human blood, I drew 20ml from my arm and spiked it with cultured HIV that I acquired from the NIH. We easily spotted and photographed the 80nm particles. According to the head of the EM lab, he'd photographed HIV hundreds of times since the 1980s, but this was the FIRST TIME HE ACTUALLY OBSERVED HIV IN HUMAN BLOOD.
The clerics at Walter Reed responded by accusing me of unlawfully using EM for "diagnostic purposes". I countered that licensed private investigators are permitted to use any optical device to determine, 1) whether nano-sized evidence (including retroviruses) are present and 2) whether an alleged bug actually causes an alleged disease (pathogenicity).
With that, Walter Reed issued an affidavit claiming (falsely) that I was using a non-accredited lab to "diagnose" our criminal defendants. The USAF prosecutor suggested that U Mass could lose their annual $150M in grant funding (i.e., bribes) if they continued to assist us. With that, USAF prosecutors successfully threatened and silenced our untenured EM expert, which ended all of our efforts to use EM to confirm accurate test results. Witness tampering (18 U.S. Code §1512) is a felony UNLESS committed by the US Government. We won that case, but the Deep State doesn't prosecute their agents and co-conspirators.
My experiences with HIV and Covid testing lead me to believe that most biological tests are designed to provoke reasonably healthy asymptomatic people that they will die without costly, toxic, and unnecessary medical interventions that will eventually kill them; and that, when they die, the CDC uses their preventable iatrogenic deaths to justify additional funding to protect us from what appears to be no more than a harmless laboratory artifact that does not exist naturally in human blood or tissues.
Like the HIV PCR "test", the Covid tests don’t detect a virus or reliable “markers”, and it’s easy to spot these facts by examining the package insert of each test. Get past the pseudoscientific gibberish and go straight to the LIMITATIONS. Anyone can read them - but you must read them carefully.
As a result of the USMC case, we successfully defended DOZENS of criminal HIV cases across the US that included the landmark case US v. Gutierrez (2015) that effectively ended all criminal HIV prosecutions across the US.
Did your client ever get sequencing done for HIV? You wrote that "numerous HIV tests and confirmatory tests proved that our client was HIV+". So did they include antibody or antigen tests in addition to a PCR test?
Electron microscopy is an unusual way to detect an HIV infection, so if for example a virus was detected in a sample by genetic sequencing but not by EM, I would guess that EM was incorrect.
Has there ever even been an experiment where the accuracy of EM would've been tested against other diagnostic methods? If for example 100 samples that contained a virus and 100 samples that didn't contain a virus would've been inspected by EM, would EM be able to predict which samples contained a virus more accurately than PCR testing?
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You wrote: "the PCR test THAT HE INVENTED does not and can not accurately detect HIV (or any other disease)." HIV is not even a disease, so did he say that PCR was not an accurate way to detect the virus or to diagnose a disease?
During the Parenzee trial when Mullis was asked to confirm a claim by the Perth Group that PCR was a flawed technology for diagnosing HIV, he answered: "I will not try to convince anyone that PCR can be used successfully to specifically make multiple copies of any nucleic acid sequence that can be uniquely defined by two 'primer target sequences' comprising the termini of the sequence of interest. The veracity of this no longer has anything to do with me. I think this has been confirmed by a huge number of laboratories around the world. The rapid spread of this simple technology would not have occurred had it been ineffectual or flawed in any persistent way." (http://aras.ab.ca/articles/legal/McDonald-Mullis.html) And he said that "the AIDS/HIV issue is what is not settled scientifically, not the effectiveness of PCR".
Parenzee was before my time. I don't argue pseudoscientific theologians. My investigation revealed the following:
* HIV IS REAL: I acquired and photographed copies of Montagnier’s original LAV.
* AIDS IS REAL: The immune systems of all living organisms eventually acquire an immune deficiency syndrome and die.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV naturally exists in human blood.
* There is Z E R O evidence that HIV causes AIDS.
* PCR is a good technology - PCR DIAGNOSTICS are a total fraud.
Sequencing, antibody, antigen, flow cytometry are variations of the same shell game - designed to convince reasonably healthy people that they are infected with an imaginary disease that will kill them (and their loved ones) UNLESS they subject themselves to further indignities and take costly drugs that will eventually kill them.
Luc Montagnier admitted as much when he said that HIV can be cured within weeks with clean water and good nutrition (WITHOUT drugs or vaccines), but that drugs and vaccines are pushed because their's no money in clean water and good nutrition. https://youtu.be/PyPq-waF-h4?t=1040
Thank you for this, its people like you who doggedly follow truth that finally get justice for victims of either side
This would be a great substack article!
Thank you.
I'd reveal more but 16-years of lawfare has taken its toll and a federal court prohibits me from sharing much of the Fauci-funded depravity and the players, bureaucracies, NGOs, and three-letter agencies involved.
I've been watching the senate hearings on the Covid Virus Origins. Not one word, not one syllable on "No-Virus" theories. Shows the reality that everybody who counts sees that as a crackpot theory, like talking about flat earth theories.
There might be something there, but It's not up to me to prove or disprove the existence of their imaginary dragons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJRy3Kl_z5E&t=2s
I’m not a virologist or a microbiologist, but I can tell you one thing… this “very argument,” is the killer hand the Fauci’s and Gates of the world have been waiting for! This is their "walk off into the sunset free men" card! When the crunch finally comes and these men are being tried in front of a jury… all they’re going to say is … “Look your honour… these whackos don’t even believe viruses exist!” And from there… all we’re going to get, is a never ending scientific circus that goes back and forth forever and a day, until it’s all thrown out of court. Let alone the issues regarding the following proposed scenario….
https://open.substack.com/pub/johnbotica/p/the-runaway-train-of-self-perpetuating?r=tz7cx&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
People like Gates and Fauci will never be brought to trial because there is no one to prosecute them, or it already would have happened.
Everything points to Shadow Gov't/Deep State involvement and, until the CIA/DOJ/FBI are blown up and held accountable, our elected representatives, courts, and individuals cannot expose their operations without the risk of a lengthy prison sentence or worse. HIV is one of many political pretexts for regime change, population control, acquisition for mineral wealth, money laundering, tax fraud, and totalitarianism, that funds black CIA operations and meets all of the objectives and recommendations cited in the "Report from Iron Mountain (1967)" and "The Kissinger Report (1976)"
Agreed. It’s NEVER going to happen. That is... they'll never be "prosecuted."
There is no prison dark enough nor execution painful enough, but judgment will come for everyone involved.