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Yep, generally millions for them. I hated having to be involved in that mess, but I needed money to cover my surgery. The whole thing still makes me feel a bit dirty, tbh.

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Appreciate your honesty, @robren72 ~ and I hope you got what you needed for your surgery.

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Just barely enough, but thanks for asking~

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Hope the surgery helped, too! <3

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It's been a long, slow recovery, but the surgery was necessary to start the healing process. The medical devices I had removed (and can't talk about, per NDA) caused systemic inflammatory processes that have taken years to overcome. I'm still on disability, and no idea when I'll be healthy enough to work again. So I'm both grateful for, and at the same time, unhappy about the realities of class-action lawsuits. :D

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This product seems to be helping many people with inflammation. Be sure to read the testimonials...https://gcmafplus.com/

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How exactly does this get rid of self assembling, nano, technology, quantum dots and graphene, cd, and se from unvaccinated blood?

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Understood! Best of luck with managing the inflammation.

Have you tried, or had any luck with, either proteolytic enzymes and/or intermittent fasting?

Both are supposed to be very helpful with reducing inflammation, and the enzymes are helpful in reducing pain and scarred tissue, as I understand it.

For me, fasting has been a godsend. (See Dr. Jason Fung if you are interested in learning more.)

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I'm well read up on Dr. Fung, his work is amazing and has helped many people. Unfortunately, my situation includes adrenal and thyroid issues which don't respond well to fasting or ketogenic diets.

I do take proteolytic enzymes, but I haven't noticed a huge difference. My next step is to procure enough grass-fed beef to do a carnivore diet for 4-5 months and see if it helps. Wish me luck!

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Thanks, robren72, for taking time to share your feedback. I also have thyroid and adrenal issues, and for some reasons the fasting has been immensely helpful ~ so I recognize everyone is different.

For example, I tried the carnivore diet for several months a couple of years ago (very excited about its potential), and for reasons that remain a mystery to me, the meat only diet didn't agree with me. However, a meat-intensive diet, seems to be ok ~ so I hope you have great success with it!

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That's just how it seems to be, Metta. I tried Carnivore for 3 months several years ago and didn't really see a difference either.

But I'm currently reading Judy Cho's Carnivore Cure...made me want to give it another try, for a longer duration, since nothing else seems to be working. Her version also serves as an elimination diet, which would be helpful since I think I've developed even more food sensitivities then before.

I wish I could fast, but it's never worked for me, since teenagehood. Maybe related to the hypoglycemia I developed by age 14? However, I wasn't diagnosed with metabolic syndrome (pre-T2-diabetes) until I was in my mid 30s. At any rate, by the second week I start getting very, very sick and can't continue. This happens whether I do intermittent or total fasting.

Everyone has to find what works best for them, glad you've found your way of eating for health. Hope I do too.

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Thanks again, Robren72. Glad to know the additional background. Sounds like we've had some similar health challenges. I've been hypoglycemic since high school too, so I know it creates some additional complications.

Good to know you've had some experience with carnivore already, and you're right: the food elimination benefits of carnivore are HUGE! Hope this finally does the trick for you! :-D

[ In case you're interested, what has helped me with fasting is drinking plenty of water, taking plenty of fiber & probiotics alternated with trace minerals several times a day (to minimize the detox symptoms) and having a small taste of natural, non-iodized salt throughout the day to keep my electrolytes balanced. (Helps immensely with hunger, faintness and fatigue.) ]

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