I studied natural medicine and successfuly practice it. I have always seen a virus as defined pre modern medicine. A toxic condition caused by the sickening of cells and the subsequent release of toxic spike proteins as the cell dies. This can be caused by acute radiation exposure or even during a systemic toxin cleanse and is called the herxheimer reaction. The results are the same, flu like symptoms as the body struggles to cleanse itself of the toxic proteins. When they first announced that the mRNA jabs would create spike proteins, I knew that they were openly saying that they were engaging their active population reduction plan. And since the public does not understand human biology, the truth flew right over their heads.
Shame on you Kirsch. Virology isolation experiments do NOT use a VALID scientific method to produce results and conclusions. Any numpty with a tertiary education can learn to read these papers and spot the lack of APPROPRIATE NEGATIVE CONTROLS. Maybe viruses do exist. The point is this has not yet been demonstrated. The "show me the virus" crowd have proposed experiments that would assess both internal and external validity of the virologists' methods. Why do you put your money where your mouth is and fund such inquiry. Instead of blowing hot air out of it about "debate" in a format that allows for every logical fallacy and disingenuous rhetorical maneuver in the book.
Why do you keep calling these darpa shots vaxines... ? Why play into this narrative, When you know what these darpa shots are intended to do ? How the brainwashing in sounds, language and words twist the tongue and mind , it continues from the father of lies sabba tea an cults... do no harm right , what is their intentions and purpose ? Do you not see the big picture yet?
I don't think that's true. If you want I can probably get Kaufman, Cowan and Dr. Robert O Young together for a show. Let me know. We need to squash this one and only discrepancy folks have with you.
There isn't anything that's going to make me believe that viruses are primary cause of disease.
Whatever the supposed causes the body mind complex of the human being is in charge of anything and everything that goes on inside and on the immediate exterior of the body. It is also in charge of events and time and space of the human being. It is true that we all influence each other and cross each other's paths. It is also true that we exist in a womb of probability and possibility that is created for the existence of our type of life. So it is not as if the human body mind and the Consciousness Within is all powerful. There are other forces in motion that have a large impact on our life and our health. But it is also obvious that our Consciousness and the Free Will that it has has been granted great powers and Freedoms that extend to the greatest extent possible that we could imagine in a universe where there are similar beings all around us who are granted those same freedoms. The fact that we don't all cancel out each other's Free Will is incredible.
When I help people it is based on the fact that the human body mind complex is in charge of the person's health and that the trans-consciousness or the metaprogram that determines the semi-permeable membrane of reality that interacts with all other fields of a human being has allowed a situation to occur that has led to the person's current consciously unwanted circumstance.
The human body mind can be interacted with as a mechanic might interact with a vehicle computer. And the human body mind will like a GPS not tell you exactly what is wrong but will lead you step by step out of the woods of the problem and toward better and better health outcomes. Sometimes viruses come up but even when viruses come up as a priority to deal with it is often the concept or the belief about viruses rather than some actual particle. Even if the actual particle is involved the body Minds conscious handling of it is more important than the conscious particle itself. I find that when dealing with the human body mind in this way and when dealing with the supposed illness in this way a person doesn't require any interaction with the medical industrial complex nor do they need to have any side effects nor do they need to spend an army leg nor do they need health care benefits in order to get well. They don't need to "fight a war" against microbes of any kind.
The human being needs to reflect on their use of their consciousness, they need to attend to their relationship to their own self, their relationship between their self and other human beings, their relationship between themselves and the Creator, their relationship between themselves and the plants and animals in the environment around them, and all of the perceptions and beliefs that coordinate and control their life.
Except for protecting oneself against litigation and defamation attacks there is no reason to consider any component of the medical industrial complex not virology or bacteriology or fungology or any of that. It all has interesting information but is not necessary.
All of these experts for the most part are barking up the wrong tree have spent Millions if not billions of hours of their lives and funds going in a direction that is largely creating Industries of pain that should not exist and do not need to exist.
I'm not the only one out there who does these things. Body Talk practitioners, the Wonder method practitioners, emotional Freedom techniques practitioners and many many other disciplines and approaches hold similar viewpoints and have similar outcomes.
And those who believe in microbe-caused illness will continue to fight wars against themselves putting $$$ in the pockets of industry that is hired to destroy their health, wealth and life in a very fear-inspiring, heroic and thunderously amazing 🤩 …and torturously pitiable way.
I might listen to a humble person who is concerned about me but not a haughty person who looks down at me.
If that person could also demonstrate the ability to make clouds ☁️ disappear with their gaze, heal themselves and others with intention and attention alone, and create synchronicities at will then I would believe that they know something about how reality really works too. Otherwise, waste of time, which can be warped a little but is still about 24 hours/day for all of us.
Well since we are going to speak only truth might as well get a few things straight:
Viruses do not exist. Period.
The earth is flat.
Space is made in a Hollywood basement.
Nobody has ever walked on the Moon. It's a light source and not a rock. Thus it can't be landed on.
Dinosaurs are a hoax.
Nukes do not exist. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fire bombed.
Weather is controlled by HAARP and scalar technology.
The lines in the sky are toxic chem-trails and contain lithium, aluminum, barium and other toxins.
9/11 was planned, executed and covered up by the USA puppet "government" and Israel.
JFK, MLK, Malcomn X, RFK, John Lennon and others were murdered by the USA "government".
All mass shootings are hoaxes. All are fake with crisis actors. Gun control is the goal.
History is one huge lie.
Cancer is not what the idiot medical system says it is. Oncologists are murderers and liars.
Satan controls this earthly realm and his Jewbag minions of the Synagogue of Satan run the show.
The Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel owned by International Jews to bankrupt the USA.
There is not even one Senator, Congressman, Governor, President or executive level appointee that is honest about the scamdemic or anything for that matter. All sub-human garbage.
There is not even one sovereign country in existence on this earth. All owned by the Jews and Satan.
All media is complete and total lies.
Most all Hollywood actresses / icons are trannies.
Obama is a gay man and "Michelle" (Big Mike) is a Tranny. The kids were adopted.
Oil is not a fossil fuel. It is the second most plentiful fluid after water and is replenished all the time.
Tesla free energy exists but is buried by the same scum that enslave humanity.
This is just scratching the surface. EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW IS A LIE.
Based but I don't think gun control is the goal. The goal is to make the public afraid. To make them think everyone they see is a potential killer. It is also about bleeding the public get them used to horror desensitized to outrages.
Make them want the protection of govt? To degenerate society further?
I say let him stay for now. A lot of what he’s saying is actually true. It’s just off topic and a lot of people don’t realize some of these things are going on. The only thing that I have a problem with is the antisemitism. That is a no-no in my book nor any kind of racism.
Throughout history there have been very few situations where a person could even argue that an entire race of people were conspiring against others. That’s just ridiculous.
Kirsch must be controlled opposition. Like so many others. Big Pharma has so much money to ply owned bitches like Kirsch. No way Big Pharma is going to ever let the virus hoax be discovered. Way too much at stake for all the childhood killer vaccines, Flu shots, and other "treatments" for the plethora of fake "viruses".
If ole Kirsch actually told the truth about viruses not existing, he may get cut off from Big Pharma money and might even get whacked.
Truth tellers with a big audience that tell the whole truth get whacked.
Be sure to read the comments!! They are a laugh riot. I read about 1/2 of over 450 comments, and they all were in agreement that Mark Bailey had won.
And Steve continues to promote McCairn, who is really evidently a very sick man (probably a consequence for torturing all of those monkeys), as evident by the bizarre imagery and vulgar the stuff he writes about Christine Massey and Sam+Mark Bailey.
Is this clown the best you can come up with, Steve?
Yay, another false and misleading "final word" from Steve on this topic! Lol.
The real reason I now refuse to debate Steve Kirsch (or engage with him, Richard Fleming or Kevin McCairn) (hint: it’s not what Steve tells his readers)
One suspicious thing about Andrew Kaufman is that he emerged in the alternative media through YouTube channels about flat earth. The first video on his YouTube channel is an interview that he did in November 2019 with the flat earther James True (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x526Y0_NV6I). In the description of the video, Kaufman says that it was his debut interview, but he did not yet discuss viruses or terrain theory in the interview. References to Kaufman on Twitter became more frequent after his interview with the flat earther Richie from Boston on March 21st, 2020 (https://twitter.com/search?q=until:2020-03-21+%22andrew+kaufman%22&f=live). On March 13th 2020 UTC, the flat earther Crrow777 tweeted: "We have recorded a Dr Kaufman follow up and hope to get it by tonight." Apart from Crrow777 and James True, I didn't find other people who had interviewed Kaufman before Richie from Boston. So as far as I can tell, the first 3 YouTubers who interviewed Kaufman were all flat earthers, which is suspicious if you believe that flat earth channels are ran by disinformation agents.
Kaufman's film "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" was produced by the people behind the flat earth channel Spacebusters and it was narrated by Steve Falconer from Spacebusters. As far as I can tell, Spacebusters promoted the theory that viruses are non-pathogenic exosomes even before Kaufman, because on March 4th 2020, they posted a video titled "IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON CORONAVIRUS 5G KUNG FLU" which featured clips of a radio show from 2009 where Aajonus Vonderplanitz talked about terrain theory and about how viruses are actually non-pathogenic exosomes (https://www.bitchute.com/video/mWcUoESRO0c5/). So is it a coincidence that two months before COVID hit the news, Kaufman did his debut interview with a flat earth YouTuber, and that in early March 2020, flat earthers were already promoting Kaufman's theory even before Kaufman himself?
In 2020, I found 12 YouTube channels which had reposted Kaufman's "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" video, out of which 9 were flat earth channels. And out of the remaining 3 channels, one was Kaufman's channel, and another one was Amandha Vollmer's channel "YumNaturals Emporium". Vollmer was one of the participants of EVENT 202, whose logo featured a disc earth and whose figurehead was the flat earther Dave Murphy.
The credits of the "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" film say that it's a film "by" Andrew Kaufman, but the only way in which the film featured Kaufman was that it included clips of his interview with Max Igan. Max Igan has said that Steve from Spacebusters is a "friend of his": "It was actually a good report put out by a friend of mine, who's I believe in Denmark at the moment, called Steve Falconer. He's got a YouTube channel or a BitChute channel called Spacebusters." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j670kqChxDQ&t=9m56s) On January 15th 2020 (or maybe a day later or earlier depending on the time zone), Max Igan posted a video where he said that the earth is flat, but in a video that he posted on January 20th UTC, he said that he was being targeted with mind control technology and that he doesn't actually believe in flat earth (https://www.bitchute.com/video/afugFIfsRQR8/). However next on January 16th UTC, he again said that "The earth is a globe, yes, the earth is flat, yes, and they can both coexist at the same time. [...] The truth is the earth is flat. And the truth is the earth is globe. It's just depending on your belief, folks, because both are absolutely true." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64tpPF2xaTo)
Max Igan also promoted the Tartaria and mud flood conspiracies which are closely linked to flat earth. I found that about half or more of the biggest YouTube channels that have posted videos about Tartaria or mud floods have also posted videos about flat earth and vice versa. The YouTube user "Static in the attic" who made videos about mud floods said that "the mud flood subject really got coined by Philipp Druzhinin", and Druzhinin is a flat earther (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RtVIks700&t=11m44s). (I didn't find any reference to mud floods in the books of Anatoly Fomenko, but somehow the topic of mud floods became connected to the topic of Tartaria on YouTube.) But basically I believe that there is a network of disinformation agents who around 2015 popularized the flat earth conspiracy, and a few years later the same people popularized the Tartaria and mud flood conspiracies, and then in 2020 they helped popularize Kaufman's theory that viruses are actually non-pathogenic exosomes. And I believe that the same network includes people like Max Igan who are linked to the flat earth movement but who are not overtly flat earthers or who present themselves as agnostic about flat earth.
Where there's smoke there's fire. Since last year when I posted the comment you replied to, I have done a lot more research on the no-virus numbskulls:
- https://output.jsbin.com/suwuxoy - An article which addresses questions that the no-virus people have presented about the genetic assembly of Wuhan-Hu-1.
- https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/a-summit-to-expose-the-pseudoscience/comment/17498810 - Next month the no-virus guys are going to have a big online conference called "The End of COVID". The directors of the event are listed as Kelly Brogan, Alec Zeck, Amandha Vollmer, Mike Winner, and Dawn Lester. Brogan and Vollmer are both flat earthers, and as far as I know, Dawn Lester did her first two interviews in alt media with the flat earthers Greg Carlwood (The Higherside Chats) and Crrow777.
In an earlier comment thread, I pointed out that one method of nanopore sequencing used to sequence SARS 2 has an average read length of about 400 base pairs (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8493558/). And there's 4^400 or about 10^241 possible sequences of 400 base pairs, and you're not going to find a 400-bp sequence of the genome of SARS 2 in some random contaminants like cow blood.
Try to google for "sars 2 reference genome", open the first result, and copy some sequence of 400 nucleotides of the genome, like for example the first 400 nucleotides (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/1798174254): "tataccttcc caggtaacaa accaaccaac tttcgatctc ttgtagatct gttctctaaa cgaactttaa aatctgtgtg gctgtcactc ggctgcatgc ttagtgcact cacgcagtat aattaataac taattactgt cgttgacagg acacgagtaa ctcgtctatc ttctgcaggc tgcttacggt ttcgtccgtg ttgcagccga tcatcagcac atctaggttt cgtccgggtg tgaccgaaag gtaagatgga gagccttgtc cctggtttca acgagaaaac acacgtccaa ctcagtttgc ctgttttaca ggttcgcgac gtgctcgtac gtggctttgg agactccgtg gaggaggtct tatcagaggc acgtcaacat".
Then go to nucleotide BLAST, enter "SARS-CoV-2 (taxid:2697049)" in the "Organism" field and click the "exclude" checkbox next to it, and press the "BLAST" button: https://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi?PROGRAM=blastn. (BLAST only returns the 100 first results, so if you don't exclude SARS-CoV-2, then all of the 100 results are genomes of SARS 2.) But anyway, when SARS 2 is excluded, then the only results with a 100% identical match are things like synthetic clones of SARS 2. The next closest results include for example "Select seq MZ937003.2 Bat coronavirus isolate BANAL-20-236/Laos/2020, complete genome", which only has 98.7% similarity.
Irrelevant. No so-called "viral" sequences have ever been shown to come from any specific particle. All the "genomes" are assembled, none have been discovered intact. I don't care how long any of the sequences are. None have ever been shown to have anything to do with a tiny replicating, transmissible disease bomb. You are so caught up in fancy technology that you've lost touch with reality.
Has the no virus crowd explained why genetic sequencing ends up producing different variants of viruses over time, so that at first a mutation emerges in one part of the world and then it spreads to other parts of the world?
There are different pipelines for taking the raw reads for the genome of SARS 2 and assembling them into a whole-genome sequence, but one of them is called HaVoC: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8285700/. For aligning the raw reads, HaVoC utilizes the Wuhan-Hu-1 reference genome which is supposed to have been first collected in December 2019: "In addition to increasing the quality of the reads, this step reduces the time of the following alignment process in which the reads are then aligned to a reference genome of SARS-CoV-2 isolate Wuhan-Hu-1 (Genbank accession code: NC_045512.2) provided in the ref.fa file with BWA-MEM [23] or Bowtie 2 [24]." However even though the raw reads are aligned using an old variant of SARS 2 as the reference, the pipeline still ends up producing different variants of the virus over time. So how does the software pipeline know that it should produce the genome a delta variant in late 2021, an omicron variant in early 2022, and so on? The utilities used by the pipeline are open source software that are also used to assemble human genomes, so they don't have any special code that looks up data about COVID variants from an online database or anything. For example HaVoC uses BWA for the alignment, and you can see its source code from here: https://github.com/lh3/bwa. (BWA is also used to align the raw reads of a human genome, and you can align the reads by just using the same reference genome for all human samples regardless of what race they are, and the racial composition of the reference genome doesn't affect the race of the final genome sequence produced by the pipeline. One standard human reference genome called "hg19" is about 1/3 Sub-Saharan African and 2/3 Eurasian, and you can see examples where it's used with BWA by googling for `bwa hg19`.)
However I guess you might argue that the hardware that produces the raw reads for SARS 2 is tweaked in a way that it systematically introduces new mutations into the raw reads over time so that it simulates the evolution and geographic spread of different variants. But there would need to be a vast conspiracy where different manufacturers of sequencing hardware would need to employ the same scheme, and the scheme would need to be retroactively introduced to old sequencing hardware which was manufactured before the SARS 2 epidemic. And in case you maintain that no viruses exist, then the sequencing hardware would also need to have similar logic for other viruses so that it introduces new mutations to the raw reads over time. For example on NextStrain, you can see a family tree for variants of measles where you can see that different variants are common in different parts of the world: https://nextstrain.org/measles.
Or if the appearance of new mutations in viruses is not generated at the level of the sequencing hardware which produces the raw reads, then where? If it would be generated on the level of the open-source software which converts raw reads to whole-genome sequences, then it would be easy for people to spot it by looking at the source code.
Another thing you can try is go to the end of this paper I linked earlier: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7409862/. Click on "SRR12109250" under "Data availability". Click on "SRR12109250" again, click on "Reads", and copy the nucleotide sequence of the first raw read: "GTTGTACTTC GTTCAGTTAC GTATTGCTAA GGTTAAGACT ACTCTGCCTT TGAACAGCAC CTTCATCAGA TTCAGCTTGC ATGGCATTGT TAGTAGCCTT ATTTAAGGCT CACCTCAGCT TACCTCCTCA TGTTTAAGGT AAACGATGGC TGCATTAACC ACTGTTGGTT TTACCTTTTT AGCTTCTTCC ACAATGTCTG CATTTTTAAT GTATGCATTG TCATTAGTTT TAATAACCAC CACTAAAACT ATTCACTTTA ATGAAT". Then paste the sequence to the "Enter Query Sequence" field in nucleotide BLAST: https://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi?PROGRAM=blastn. Then when you click on the BLAST button, you'll see that the best match for the sequence is a genome of SARS 2 (with a score of 261 out of 261). So if the sequence of the raw read would actually come from some other organism like cow blood, and the sequence was only manipulated to match the SARS 2 genome through the process of alignment, then why is SARS 2 the top match for the raw read before any alignment has been performed?
There is no onus on the no-virus crowd explain anything, and there is no sense in discussing meaningless, made-up, strictly-in-silico sequences that are fraudulently called "genomes" other than to point out that they are meaningless, made-up, and strictly-in-silico. The variance in these meaningless, made-up sequences simply represents the inability of virologists to replicate their anti-scientific "experiments".
The same kind of sequencing hardware that is used to produce raw reads for the genomes of viruses is also used to produce raw reads for human genomes. And I guess you accept that when the hardware produces a raw read for a segment of human DNA, then the read corresponds to some physical genetic sequence that is actually present within the human genome. So then what physical substance is the source of the raw reads that are generally thought to represent the genomes of viruses? If you're saying that the source is some other organism that is not a virus, then why was it the case that in the BLAST search in my previous post, the closest match for the raw read I searched was a genome of SARS 2? In the case of both human and viral genomes, the same FASTQ file format is used to store the raw reads, and the same command line utilities like BWA are used to align the raw reads.
Another thing you can try is to go again to the "Data availability" section at the end of this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7409862/. Then click on "SRR12109250", click on "SRR12109250" again, click on "FASTA/FASTQ download", and press the "FASTQ" button under "Download". Then open this online utility for assembling the raw reads: https://ngdc.cncb.ac.cn/ncov/online/tool/variation?lang=en. Press the "Choose File" button next to "Upload Single-end Sequencing file", select the file you just downloaded, and press the "Run" button. Then after a few minutes you'll get the assembled genome, and it also shows you all of the bases where the assembled genome differs from the reference genome. The default reference genome used by the online utility is NC_045512 / Wuhan-Hu-1, which is supposed to have been collected in December 2019 and submitted in January 2020 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/1798174254). But yet the online utility detects that the raw reads you uploaded have the D614G mutation at position 23403, which which was first detected in March 2020 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310631/).
If you would repeat the same assembly procedure using standard commandline utilities like BWA, they would still detect the D614G mutation. So how do the utilities know that they need to introduce that precise mutation even though the mutation is not part of the reference genome? BWA uses the same procedure to align viral genomes and human genomes, and it doesn't need to look up any data about the genomes from an online database, but apart from the raw reads, the only external data it needs is the reference genome. So if mutations like D614G are not part of the raw reads, then where does BWA find the data for which mutations it needs to introduce? To get an idea of how the alignment and further parts of the assembly pipeline work, you can search Google Images for `bwa alignment procedure`: https://www.google.com/search?q=bwa+alignment+procedure&tbm=isch.
Yes! Kaufman went there to discredit flatearthers by talking drug/vaccineinjuries. Now the little weasel is here discrediting the anti"vaccine" people by claiming no virus!
This reinforces my view that the 'virus is a hoax' crowd are part of a discredit-by-association attack, given it appears to be part of the same apparatus as the 'flat earth' discredit-by-association group often found in groups trying to expose government corruption.
Similarly happened to the 'Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth', who reported that whenever they went to protest NIST findings, a mysterious individual would appear out of nowhere with a banner saying things like 'the planes are holographic' and 'planes are a holohoax' and other blatantly dubious remarks and try to mingle with their group. They'd often require a protection detail to keep the individual at bay - which police didn't stop, but if they physically confronted the person they got arrested.
Do you mind if I use some of your work in my articles? I'm happy to give credit.
Crrow777 is not a flat earther. I listen to him all the time! He filmed the Lunar wave then eventually started a talk radio show. It is very good. He hardly ever mentions the flat earth topic and when he does, he is agnostic - probably because neither can be proven by the common man. He is a free speech supporter: https://www.crrow777radio.com/
Ok, I haven't followed him, but the description of a podcast episode from 2019 says: "Crrow777 takes us on a journey into his work surrounding the idea that the earth is not a globe at all. Our discussion takes us from his accidental start after recording the 'Lunar Wave' and into how this journey developed and took shape to become his life's work and what would spawn the beginnings of the flat earth movement." (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/127-flatearth-and-beyond-crrow777/id1461725746)
Sorry, I don't do Apple (or GoogleDroid). I'm strictly de-googled. I went to Crrow777 episode 127, but it was unrelated to what you wrote. As far as I know, the earth was flat until the 1600s, when it became a sphere, but hey, history is fluid depending on who is in charge at the moment. I doubt Crrow would say he "spawned the flat earth movement." That would be rather egotistic.
I studied natural medicine and successfuly practice it. I have always seen a virus as defined pre modern medicine. A toxic condition caused by the sickening of cells and the subsequent release of toxic spike proteins as the cell dies. This can be caused by acute radiation exposure or even during a systemic toxin cleanse and is called the herxheimer reaction. The results are the same, flu like symptoms as the body struggles to cleanse itself of the toxic proteins. When they first announced that the mRNA jabs would create spike proteins, I knew that they were openly saying that they were engaging their active population reduction plan. And since the public does not understand human biology, the truth flew right over their heads.
Shame on you Kirsch. Virology isolation experiments do NOT use a VALID scientific method to produce results and conclusions. Any numpty with a tertiary education can learn to read these papers and spot the lack of APPROPRIATE NEGATIVE CONTROLS. Maybe viruses do exist. The point is this has not yet been demonstrated. The "show me the virus" crowd have proposed experiments that would assess both internal and external validity of the virologists' methods. Why do you put your money where your mouth is and fund such inquiry. Instead of blowing hot air out of it about "debate" in a format that allows for every logical fallacy and disingenuous rhetorical maneuver in the book.
Why do you keep calling these darpa shots vaxines... ? Why play into this narrative, When you know what these darpa shots are intended to do ? How the brainwashing in sounds, language and words twist the tongue and mind , it continues from the father of lies sabba tea an cults... do no harm right , what is their intentions and purpose ? Do you not see the big picture yet?
I don't think that's true. If you want I can probably get Kaufman, Cowan and Dr. Robert O Young together for a show. Let me know. We need to squash this one and only discrepancy folks have with you.
There isn't anything that's going to make me believe that viruses are primary cause of disease.
Whatever the supposed causes the body mind complex of the human being is in charge of anything and everything that goes on inside and on the immediate exterior of the body. It is also in charge of events and time and space of the human being. It is true that we all influence each other and cross each other's paths. It is also true that we exist in a womb of probability and possibility that is created for the existence of our type of life. So it is not as if the human body mind and the Consciousness Within is all powerful. There are other forces in motion that have a large impact on our life and our health. But it is also obvious that our Consciousness and the Free Will that it has has been granted great powers and Freedoms that extend to the greatest extent possible that we could imagine in a universe where there are similar beings all around us who are granted those same freedoms. The fact that we don't all cancel out each other's Free Will is incredible.
When I help people it is based on the fact that the human body mind complex is in charge of the person's health and that the trans-consciousness or the metaprogram that determines the semi-permeable membrane of reality that interacts with all other fields of a human being has allowed a situation to occur that has led to the person's current consciously unwanted circumstance.
The human body mind can be interacted with as a mechanic might interact with a vehicle computer. And the human body mind will like a GPS not tell you exactly what is wrong but will lead you step by step out of the woods of the problem and toward better and better health outcomes. Sometimes viruses come up but even when viruses come up as a priority to deal with it is often the concept or the belief about viruses rather than some actual particle. Even if the actual particle is involved the body Minds conscious handling of it is more important than the conscious particle itself. I find that when dealing with the human body mind in this way and when dealing with the supposed illness in this way a person doesn't require any interaction with the medical industrial complex nor do they need to have any side effects nor do they need to spend an army leg nor do they need health care benefits in order to get well. They don't need to "fight a war" against microbes of any kind.
The human being needs to reflect on their use of their consciousness, they need to attend to their relationship to their own self, their relationship between their self and other human beings, their relationship between themselves and the Creator, their relationship between themselves and the plants and animals in the environment around them, and all of the perceptions and beliefs that coordinate and control their life.
Under the new comment guidelines you'll be going the way of the Dodo, buddy. Look at that, some 7 or 8 paragraphs. How DHARRRE you?!
But that post came out AFTER the commenting! 😬
Also, it apparently hasn’t been read much or people glanced at it and decided to move along like they were Jedi waved 👋 😂 so no harm done.
Except for protecting oneself against litigation and defamation attacks there is no reason to consider any component of the medical industrial complex not virology or bacteriology or fungology or any of that. It all has interesting information but is not necessary.
All of these experts for the most part are barking up the wrong tree have spent Millions if not billions of hours of their lives and funds going in a direction that is largely creating Industries of pain that should not exist and do not need to exist.
I'm not the only one out there who does these things. Body Talk practitioners, the Wonder method practitioners, emotional Freedom techniques practitioners and many many other disciplines and approaches hold similar viewpoints and have similar outcomes.
i often get called out by james randi lovers. don't you want to prove your argument and take the million he offers?
nope. you can't prove anything to a closed mind. and debates are not helpful when the fundamental points are ignored and buried.
A person can listen to both sides of an argument they don't have to be in the same room yelling at each other
"There isn't anything that's going to make me believe that viruses are primary cause of disease."
"you can't prove anything to a closed mind"
There you have it.
Exactly.
I will continue to never become ill.
And those who believe in microbe-caused illness will continue to fight wars against themselves putting $$$ in the pockets of industry that is hired to destroy their health, wealth and life in a very fear-inspiring, heroic and thunderously amazing 🤩 …and torturously pitiable way.
I might listen to a humble person who is concerned about me but not a haughty person who looks down at me.
If that person could also demonstrate the ability to make clouds ☁️ disappear with their gaze, heal themselves and others with intention and attention alone, and create synchronicities at will then I would believe that they know something about how reality really works too. Otherwise, waste of time, which can be warped a little but is still about 24 hours/day for all of us.
https://truthcomestolight.com/german-engineer-marvin-haberland-challenges-the-existence-of-covid-virus-in-german-court/
https://truthcomestolight.com/the-viral-delusion-2022-docu-series-the-tragic-pseudoscience-of-sars-cov2-the-madness-of-modern-virology/
Well since we are going to speak only truth might as well get a few things straight:
Viruses do not exist. Period.
The earth is flat.
Space is made in a Hollywood basement.
Nobody has ever walked on the Moon. It's a light source and not a rock. Thus it can't be landed on.
Dinosaurs are a hoax.
Nukes do not exist. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fire bombed.
Weather is controlled by HAARP and scalar technology.
The lines in the sky are toxic chem-trails and contain lithium, aluminum, barium and other toxins.
9/11 was planned, executed and covered up by the USA puppet "government" and Israel.
JFK, MLK, Malcomn X, RFK, John Lennon and others were murdered by the USA "government".
All mass shootings are hoaxes. All are fake with crisis actors. Gun control is the goal.
History is one huge lie.
Cancer is not what the idiot medical system says it is. Oncologists are murderers and liars.
Satan controls this earthly realm and his Jewbag minions of the Synagogue of Satan run the show.
The Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel owned by International Jews to bankrupt the USA.
There is not even one Senator, Congressman, Governor, President or executive level appointee that is honest about the scamdemic or anything for that matter. All sub-human garbage.
There is not even one sovereign country in existence on this earth. All owned by the Jews and Satan.
All media is complete and total lies.
Most all Hollywood actresses / icons are trannies.
Obama is a gay man and "Michelle" (Big Mike) is a Tranny. The kids were adopted.
Oil is not a fossil fuel. It is the second most plentiful fluid after water and is replenished all the time.
Tesla free energy exists but is buried by the same scum that enslave humanity.
This is just scratching the surface. EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW IS A LIE.
You are welcome.
You lost me when you stated "the earth is flat", but yes a lot of what you state is true
This is disgusting. Posting this on Jewish Steve Kirsch’s Substack affirms that you are indeed a total douchebag.
Based but I don't think gun control is the goal. The goal is to make the public afraid. To make them think everyone they see is a potential killer. It is also about bleeding the public get them used to horror desensitized to outrages.
Make them want the protection of govt? To degenerate society further?
I believe this comment should be censored as the information put forward falls under "poisoning the well" category.
I say let him stay for now. A lot of what he’s saying is actually true. It’s just off topic and a lot of people don’t realize some of these things are going on. The only thing that I have a problem with is the antisemitism. That is a no-no in my book nor any kind of racism.
Throughout history there have been very few situations where a person could even argue that an entire race of people were conspiring against others. That’s just ridiculous.
not really helping, pal.
Kirsch must be controlled opposition. Like so many others. Big Pharma has so much money to ply owned bitches like Kirsch. No way Big Pharma is going to ever let the virus hoax be discovered. Way too much at stake for all the childhood killer vaccines, Flu shots, and other "treatments" for the plethora of fake "viruses".
If ole Kirsch actually told the truth about viruses not existing, he may get cut off from Big Pharma money and might even get whacked.
Truth tellers with a big audience that tell the whole truth get whacked.
Are you on the spectrum?
https://truthcomestolight.com/mary-holland-of-childrens-health-defense-leads-discussion-of-the-documentary-the-viral-delusion-the-tragic-pseudoscience-of-sars-cov2-the-madness-of-modern-virology/
You gotta love how Steve "forgets" that Dr. Mark Bailey already debated Kevin McCairn back in May.
DOES SARS-CoV-2 EXIST? Virus Debate Between Dr. Mark Bailey & Dr. Kevin McCairn:
https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/sars-cov-2-existence-debate-bailey-vs-mccairn:6
Be sure to read the comments!! They are a laugh riot. I read about 1/2 of over 450 comments, and they all were in agreement that Mark Bailey had won.
And Steve continues to promote McCairn, who is really evidently a very sick man (probably a consequence for torturing all of those monkeys), as evident by the bizarre imagery and vulgar the stuff he writes about Christine Massey and Sam+Mark Bailey.
Is this clown the best you can come up with, Steve?
Yay, another false and misleading "final word" from Steve on this topic! Lol.
The real reason I now refuse to debate Steve Kirsch (or engage with him, Richard Fleming or Kevin McCairn) (hint: it’s not what Steve tells his readers)
Posted July 24, 2022:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/why-i-now-refuse-to-debate-steve-kirsch-or-richard-fleming-or-kevin-mccairn/
I'm just here for the ratio. 👍😉🙋♂️
> I will not be commenting on this topic any further
PLEASE GOD make it be so!!!
You can use techniques like small angle x-ray or neutron scattering to observe objects smaller than the wavelengths of visible light.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33186231/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35157798/
https://neutrons.ornl.gov/highlights/mapping-hydrogen-atoms-sars-cov-2-main-protease
https://andor.oxinst.com/learning/view/article/how-to-use-confocal-microscopy-to-image-viruses
I'm not sure how tricky it is to build an SAXs machine.
Shine light on electrons, you cause them to swerve,
The act of observing disturbs the observed,
Which ruins the test, but then if there's no testing,
To see if the particle's moving or resting,
Why try to conjecture?
Pure useless endeavor,
We know probability; certainty? Never!
One suspicious thing about Andrew Kaufman is that he emerged in the alternative media through YouTube channels about flat earth. The first video on his YouTube channel is an interview that he did in November 2019 with the flat earther James True (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x526Y0_NV6I). In the description of the video, Kaufman says that it was his debut interview, but he did not yet discuss viruses or terrain theory in the interview. References to Kaufman on Twitter became more frequent after his interview with the flat earther Richie from Boston on March 21st, 2020 (https://twitter.com/search?q=until:2020-03-21+%22andrew+kaufman%22&f=live). On March 13th 2020 UTC, the flat earther Crrow777 tweeted: "We have recorded a Dr Kaufman follow up and hope to get it by tonight." Apart from Crrow777 and James True, I didn't find other people who had interviewed Kaufman before Richie from Boston. So as far as I can tell, the first 3 YouTubers who interviewed Kaufman were all flat earthers, which is suspicious if you believe that flat earth channels are ran by disinformation agents.
Kaufman's film "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" was produced by the people behind the flat earth channel Spacebusters and it was narrated by Steve Falconer from Spacebusters. As far as I can tell, Spacebusters promoted the theory that viruses are non-pathogenic exosomes even before Kaufman, because on March 4th 2020, they posted a video titled "IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON CORONAVIRUS 5G KUNG FLU" which featured clips of a radio show from 2009 where Aajonus Vonderplanitz talked about terrain theory and about how viruses are actually non-pathogenic exosomes (https://www.bitchute.com/video/mWcUoESRO0c5/). So is it a coincidence that two months before COVID hit the news, Kaufman did his debut interview with a flat earth YouTuber, and that in early March 2020, flat earthers were already promoting Kaufman's theory even before Kaufman himself?
In 2020, I found 12 YouTube channels which had reposted Kaufman's "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" video, out of which 9 were flat earth channels. And out of the remaining 3 channels, one was Kaufman's channel, and another one was Amandha Vollmer's channel "YumNaturals Emporium". Vollmer was one of the participants of EVENT 202, whose logo featured a disc earth and whose figurehead was the flat earther Dave Murphy.
The credits of the "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" film say that it's a film "by" Andrew Kaufman, but the only way in which the film featured Kaufman was that it included clips of his interview with Max Igan. Max Igan has said that Steve from Spacebusters is a "friend of his": "It was actually a good report put out by a friend of mine, who's I believe in Denmark at the moment, called Steve Falconer. He's got a YouTube channel or a BitChute channel called Spacebusters." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j670kqChxDQ&t=9m56s) On January 15th 2020 (or maybe a day later or earlier depending on the time zone), Max Igan posted a video where he said that the earth is flat, but in a video that he posted on January 20th UTC, he said that he was being targeted with mind control technology and that he doesn't actually believe in flat earth (https://www.bitchute.com/video/afugFIfsRQR8/). However next on January 16th UTC, he again said that "The earth is a globe, yes, the earth is flat, yes, and they can both coexist at the same time. [...] The truth is the earth is flat. And the truth is the earth is globe. It's just depending on your belief, folks, because both are absolutely true." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64tpPF2xaTo)
Max Igan also promoted the Tartaria and mud flood conspiracies which are closely linked to flat earth. I found that about half or more of the biggest YouTube channels that have posted videos about Tartaria or mud floods have also posted videos about flat earth and vice versa. The YouTube user "Static in the attic" who made videos about mud floods said that "the mud flood subject really got coined by Philipp Druzhinin", and Druzhinin is a flat earther (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RtVIks700&t=11m44s). (I didn't find any reference to mud floods in the books of Anatoly Fomenko, but somehow the topic of mud floods became connected to the topic of Tartaria on YouTube.) But basically I believe that there is a network of disinformation agents who around 2015 popularized the flat earth conspiracy, and a few years later the same people popularized the Tartaria and mud flood conspiracies, and then in 2020 they helped popularize Kaufman's theory that viruses are actually non-pathogenic exosomes. And I believe that the same network includes people like Max Igan who are linked to the flat earth movement but who are not overtly flat earthers or who present themselves as agnostic about flat earth.
Congratulations. You have just made a near perfect demonstration of the Association fallacy with your post
Where there's smoke there's fire. Since last year when I posted the comment you replied to, I have done a lot more research on the no-virus numbskulls:
- https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zdsOm3LvgBv5OdSVnxSdpAou6mv7WMrA/view - Mostly deals with the links between no-virusers and flat earthers.
- https://output.jsbin.com/suwuxoy - An article which addresses questions that the no-virus people have presented about the genetic assembly of Wuhan-Hu-1.
- https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/a-summit-to-expose-the-pseudoscience/comment/17498810 - Next month the no-virus guys are going to have a big online conference called "The End of COVID". The directors of the event are listed as Kelly Brogan, Alec Zeck, Amandha Vollmer, Mike Winner, and Dawn Lester. Brogan and Vollmer are both flat earthers, and as far as I know, Dawn Lester did her first two interviews in alt media with the flat earthers Greg Carlwood (The Higherside Chats) and Crrow777.
- https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/david-martins-malleable-reality-the/comment/15995273 - Links between no-virusers and freemasons, such as that the Luciferian freemason ex-military flat earther James True called himself Andrew Kaufman's "lead writer".
- https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ERmXyjMkcHFXuR2N0f89H0SwaynAY_xv/view - Comments about the COVID chronology by Eric Coppolino (Planet Waves FM).
Flat Earth is OFF TOPIC to COVID.
Just a form of ad hominem attack.
Irrelevant ad hominens are so helpful when you have nothing of value to add regarding the pseudoscience of virology. Well done.
Did you run my BLAST search yet?
In an earlier comment thread, I pointed out that one method of nanopore sequencing used to sequence SARS 2 has an average read length of about 400 base pairs (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8493558/). And there's 4^400 or about 10^241 possible sequences of 400 base pairs, and you're not going to find a 400-bp sequence of the genome of SARS 2 in some random contaminants like cow blood.
Try to google for "sars 2 reference genome", open the first result, and copy some sequence of 400 nucleotides of the genome, like for example the first 400 nucleotides (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/1798174254): "tataccttcc caggtaacaa accaaccaac tttcgatctc ttgtagatct gttctctaaa cgaactttaa aatctgtgtg gctgtcactc ggctgcatgc ttagtgcact cacgcagtat aattaataac taattactgt cgttgacagg acacgagtaa ctcgtctatc ttctgcaggc tgcttacggt ttcgtccgtg ttgcagccga tcatcagcac atctaggttt cgtccgggtg tgaccgaaag gtaagatgga gagccttgtc cctggtttca acgagaaaac acacgtccaa ctcagtttgc ctgttttaca ggttcgcgac gtgctcgtac gtggctttgg agactccgtg gaggaggtct tatcagaggc acgtcaacat".
Then go to nucleotide BLAST, enter "SARS-CoV-2 (taxid:2697049)" in the "Organism" field and click the "exclude" checkbox next to it, and press the "BLAST" button: https://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi?PROGRAM=blastn. (BLAST only returns the 100 first results, so if you don't exclude SARS-CoV-2, then all of the 100 results are genomes of SARS 2.) But anyway, when SARS 2 is excluded, then the only results with a 100% identical match are things like synthetic clones of SARS 2. The next closest results include for example "Select seq MZ937003.2 Bat coronavirus isolate BANAL-20-236/Laos/2020, complete genome", which only has 98.7% similarity.
I can next write a tutorial on how you can download the data for the raw reads and align it yourself using a pipeline of tools like BWA-MEM and BCFtools, but the procedure is described in this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8285700/. And you can download files for the raw reads from the "Data availability" section at the end of this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7409862/.
Irrelevant. No so-called "viral" sequences have ever been shown to come from any specific particle. All the "genomes" are assembled, none have been discovered intact. I don't care how long any of the sequences are. None have ever been shown to have anything to do with a tiny replicating, transmissible disease bomb. You are so caught up in fancy technology that you've lost touch with reality.
Has the no virus crowd explained why genetic sequencing ends up producing different variants of viruses over time, so that at first a mutation emerges in one part of the world and then it spreads to other parts of the world?
There are different pipelines for taking the raw reads for the genome of SARS 2 and assembling them into a whole-genome sequence, but one of them is called HaVoC: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8285700/. For aligning the raw reads, HaVoC utilizes the Wuhan-Hu-1 reference genome which is supposed to have been first collected in December 2019: "In addition to increasing the quality of the reads, this step reduces the time of the following alignment process in which the reads are then aligned to a reference genome of SARS-CoV-2 isolate Wuhan-Hu-1 (Genbank accession code: NC_045512.2) provided in the ref.fa file with BWA-MEM [23] or Bowtie 2 [24]." However even though the raw reads are aligned using an old variant of SARS 2 as the reference, the pipeline still ends up producing different variants of the virus over time. So how does the software pipeline know that it should produce the genome a delta variant in late 2021, an omicron variant in early 2022, and so on? The utilities used by the pipeline are open source software that are also used to assemble human genomes, so they don't have any special code that looks up data about COVID variants from an online database or anything. For example HaVoC uses BWA for the alignment, and you can see its source code from here: https://github.com/lh3/bwa. (BWA is also used to align the raw reads of a human genome, and you can align the reads by just using the same reference genome for all human samples regardless of what race they are, and the racial composition of the reference genome doesn't affect the race of the final genome sequence produced by the pipeline. One standard human reference genome called "hg19" is about 1/3 Sub-Saharan African and 2/3 Eurasian, and you can see examples where it's used with BWA by googling for `bwa hg19`.)
However I guess you might argue that the hardware that produces the raw reads for SARS 2 is tweaked in a way that it systematically introduces new mutations into the raw reads over time so that it simulates the evolution and geographic spread of different variants. But there would need to be a vast conspiracy where different manufacturers of sequencing hardware would need to employ the same scheme, and the scheme would need to be retroactively introduced to old sequencing hardware which was manufactured before the SARS 2 epidemic. And in case you maintain that no viruses exist, then the sequencing hardware would also need to have similar logic for other viruses so that it introduces new mutations to the raw reads over time. For example on NextStrain, you can see a family tree for variants of measles where you can see that different variants are common in different parts of the world: https://nextstrain.org/measles.
Or if the appearance of new mutations in viruses is not generated at the level of the sequencing hardware which produces the raw reads, then where? If it would be generated on the level of the open-source software which converts raw reads to whole-genome sequences, then it would be easy for people to spot it by looking at the source code.
Another thing you can try is go to the end of this paper I linked earlier: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7409862/. Click on "SRR12109250" under "Data availability". Click on "SRR12109250" again, click on "Reads", and copy the nucleotide sequence of the first raw read: "GTTGTACTTC GTTCAGTTAC GTATTGCTAA GGTTAAGACT ACTCTGCCTT TGAACAGCAC CTTCATCAGA TTCAGCTTGC ATGGCATTGT TAGTAGCCTT ATTTAAGGCT CACCTCAGCT TACCTCCTCA TGTTTAAGGT AAACGATGGC TGCATTAACC ACTGTTGGTT TTACCTTTTT AGCTTCTTCC ACAATGTCTG CATTTTTAAT GTATGCATTG TCATTAGTTT TAATAACCAC CACTAAAACT ATTCACTTTA ATGAAT". Then paste the sequence to the "Enter Query Sequence" field in nucleotide BLAST: https://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi?PROGRAM=blastn. Then when you click on the BLAST button, you'll see that the best match for the sequence is a genome of SARS 2 (with a score of 261 out of 261). So if the sequence of the raw read would actually come from some other organism like cow blood, and the sequence was only manipulated to match the SARS 2 genome through the process of alignment, then why is SARS 2 the top match for the raw read before any alignment has been performed?
There is no onus on the no-virus crowd explain anything, and there is no sense in discussing meaningless, made-up, strictly-in-silico sequences that are fraudulently called "genomes" other than to point out that they are meaningless, made-up, and strictly-in-silico. The variance in these meaningless, made-up sequences simply represents the inability of virologists to replicate their anti-scientific "experiments".
The same kind of sequencing hardware that is used to produce raw reads for the genomes of viruses is also used to produce raw reads for human genomes. And I guess you accept that when the hardware produces a raw read for a segment of human DNA, then the read corresponds to some physical genetic sequence that is actually present within the human genome. So then what physical substance is the source of the raw reads that are generally thought to represent the genomes of viruses? If you're saying that the source is some other organism that is not a virus, then why was it the case that in the BLAST search in my previous post, the closest match for the raw read I searched was a genome of SARS 2? In the case of both human and viral genomes, the same FASTQ file format is used to store the raw reads, and the same command line utilities like BWA are used to align the raw reads.
Another thing you can try is to go again to the "Data availability" section at the end of this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7409862/. Then click on "SRR12109250", click on "SRR12109250" again, click on "FASTA/FASTQ download", and press the "FASTQ" button under "Download". Then open this online utility for assembling the raw reads: https://ngdc.cncb.ac.cn/ncov/online/tool/variation?lang=en. Press the "Choose File" button next to "Upload Single-end Sequencing file", select the file you just downloaded, and press the "Run" button. Then after a few minutes you'll get the assembled genome, and it also shows you all of the bases where the assembled genome differs from the reference genome. The default reference genome used by the online utility is NC_045512 / Wuhan-Hu-1, which is supposed to have been collected in December 2019 and submitted in January 2020 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/1798174254). But yet the online utility detects that the raw reads you uploaded have the D614G mutation at position 23403, which which was first detected in March 2020 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7310631/).
If you would repeat the same assembly procedure using standard commandline utilities like BWA, they would still detect the D614G mutation. So how do the utilities know that they need to introduce that precise mutation even though the mutation is not part of the reference genome? BWA uses the same procedure to align viral genomes and human genomes, and it doesn't need to look up any data about the genomes from an online database, but apart from the raw reads, the only external data it needs is the reference genome. So if mutations like D614G are not part of the raw reads, then where does BWA find the data for which mutations it needs to introduce? To get an idea of how the alignment and further parts of the assembly pipeline work, you can search Google Images for `bwa alignment procedure`: https://www.google.com/search?q=bwa+alignment+procedure&tbm=isch.
Yes! Kaufman went there to discredit flatearthers by talking drug/vaccineinjuries. Now the little weasel is here discrediting the anti"vaccine" people by claiming no virus!
Excellent research.
This reinforces my view that the 'virus is a hoax' crowd are part of a discredit-by-association attack, given it appears to be part of the same apparatus as the 'flat earth' discredit-by-association group often found in groups trying to expose government corruption.
Similarly happened to the 'Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth', who reported that whenever they went to protest NIST findings, a mysterious individual would appear out of nowhere with a banner saying things like 'the planes are holographic' and 'planes are a holohoax' and other blatantly dubious remarks and try to mingle with their group. They'd often require a protection detail to keep the individual at bay - which police didn't stop, but if they physically confronted the person they got arrested.
Do you mind if I use some of your work in my articles? I'm happy to give credit.
Crrow777 is not a flat earther. I listen to him all the time! He filmed the Lunar wave then eventually started a talk radio show. It is very good. He hardly ever mentions the flat earth topic and when he does, he is agnostic - probably because neither can be proven by the common man. He is a free speech supporter: https://www.crrow777radio.com/
Ok, I haven't followed him, but the description of a podcast episode from 2019 says: "Crrow777 takes us on a journey into his work surrounding the idea that the earth is not a globe at all. Our discussion takes us from his accidental start after recording the 'Lunar Wave' and into how this journey developed and took shape to become his life's work and what would spawn the beginnings of the flat earth movement." (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/127-flatearth-and-beyond-crrow777/id1461725746)
Sorry, I don't do Apple (or GoogleDroid). I'm strictly de-googled. I went to Crrow777 episode 127, but it was unrelated to what you wrote. As far as I know, the earth was flat until the 1600s, when it became a sphere, but hey, history is fluid depending on who is in charge at the moment. I doubt Crrow would say he "spawned the flat earth movement." That would be rather egotistic.