It goes way back to the gulf wars and people from Iran or Iraq. But our tv said they were savages. Iran and Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Real veterans
Yes we certainly do. Here is a bit of history from William Cooper predicting 9/11 on a radio program aired June 28, 2001. This broadcast led to his assassination (on their 3rd attempt) a few months after 9/11. If you don't know who controls the CIA and who the illuminati really is, get the book The Secret Terrorists by Bill Hughes. One of their society members after reading this book made this statement and I quote "this book would be laughable if it weren't so accurate, but the author left out ALOT." Those are chilling words to me having read the book cover to cover. Not sure I want to know what was left out!!
The Iraq war is a confusing mess to understand because 'W' never promoted the war to the public. There were a lot of lies (and I am pissed off about them too) but Iraq's involvement in 9/11 was established in a court of law along with a lot of other Muslim countries.
See Smith ex. rel. v. Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (2003)
"Established in a court of law". Are you for serious? 10 of those "hijackers" were photographed alive after 9/11, some of them flying for Saudi airlines.
Nanothermite was found in every dust sample examined.
Building 7 came down in it's own footprint in 6 1/2 seconds and wasn't hit by anything. That's called "free fall" secondary to controlled demolition.
Your still believing the "official story" of 9/11 tells me you are totally unprepared to comprehend what's going on with the Covid biowar.
Dennis K McGee I am on top of the COVID biowar and I gave you the web link to the 9/11 court case. I pointed out it is complicated and is intended to make a lot of people confused. IMO there are two realities that are true. The deep state was involved in orchestrating 9/11 and Saddam and many other Muslim nations were willing accomplices in pulling off the terrorist attack. I am not knocking people for their far fetched ideas just saying you need more information to back up your claims so as not to look foolish. Many have not thoroughly thought threw their ideas making it easy to shoot them down.
Karl, it's good that you have done some investigation of 9/11, but there is MUCH more to the story than what Daniel Hopsicker brings to the table. There are half a dozen people who have written very good books on the subject. I would refer you (for example) to Michael C. Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon. It's long and detailed, but puts a lot of pieces together -- all of them implicating Dick Cheney.
Have you heard of the "5 dancing Israelis" arrested on 9/11?" They are real, the FBI files are available (though heavily redacted), and the files are damning, even without all the info. All held airline tickets out of the country. They were detained for weeks, but eventually released without trial, thanks to leverage from high places. Mossad was following the "Hijackers" around (in the U.S.) for a long time; they and the other Arabs involved are incidental patsies, though their feelings for the USA were probably not cordial.
Read about Urban Moving, the Israeli company (in New Jersey) that closed immediately after 9-11, as the owner skipped the country. What kind of small moving company needs 16 computers (in 2001)? FBI files are also available regarding this.
Yes, the Neocons (you do know about PNAC, Project for the New American Century, don't you?) and Mossad worked together to pull off 9-11. The world would be a much safer and more peaceful place if Israel were vaporized.
The owner of the "moving company" fled back home, leaving a sea of not honored "moving" contracts, and a warehouse full of clients' unclaimed (donated...) household belongings in his wake.
According to New Jersey law enforcement and the man who owned the warehouse, circa 2001.
Guess what though?
He, along with his wife (and her online jewelry biz) are alive, well and back in the good old US of A.
Still grifting.
Interesting story. Not difficult to find either, even nearly 22 years later.
"A former Urban Moving Systems employee later contacted the Newark Division with information indicating that he had quit his employment with Urban Moving Systems due to high amount of anti-American sentiment present among UrbanтАЩs employees. The former employee stated that an Israeli employee of Urban had even once remarked, 'Give us twenty years and weтАЩll take over your media and destroy your country.' тАЭ < That would be 2021, and I'd say they have done a pretty good job of that. >
"Little evidence of a legitimate business operation was found. Evidence recovery agents did seize, however, sixteen (16) separate computer units used by Urban Moving Systems."
Stevo, you got to prove it. 9/11 is filled with wild accusations and loads of disinformation. I have gone down lots of rabbit holes only to find out it was information put out to discredit conspiracy buffs. The more incredible the claim the more information you need to back it up.
I prove it by using the government lies about it. It's their memo, it's their immunity they granted to isreal/mosad through the patriot act, and the memo that says they recruited them. Plus they specifically said it wasn't them, which means it was. Because, "there are no aliens," "it's a weather balloon," "your vote counts " it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated," "safe & effective." See how that works?!
I am married to a Delta Airline pilot and he and most other pilots laugh at the government narrative of the 911 attacks. In the end the truth will come out.
I'm not the pilot just married to is one that is flying to Japan now. He told me that under 5000 feet airspeed is usually restricted to 250 knots. Jetliners are not fighter planes and have g force limits, so he thought that the maneuvers by the planes of the planes that hit the pentagon and wtc one and two would have caused structural failure.
Respect and love for falling for one criminal government lie after another and going on to murder innocent people based on those lies? And getting ready now to go and murder Russians who suffered attacks from the US regime installed in Kiev for for 8 long years and 16,000 dead because Russia just decided one day "for no reason" to "invade" areas their people were being systematically murdered in? No thanks.
This is what we are told to believe 16 pilots from Saudi Arabia, most of which could not even fly a single propellor plane strait or level, and failed out of flight school broke into cockpits with boxcutters and disabled marine and navy pilots and flew advanced jumbo jets into the twin towers and pentagon. Dude you must be on drugs.
We had caught one of the terrorists here in Minnesota. Check it out his name is Zacarius Moussoui. Daniel Hopsicker had done investigative reporting on Mohammed Atta in his book 'Welcome to Terrorland'. You can find an interview he has of Mohamed Atta's girlfriend (Amanda Keller) online. Hopsicker looks into the shady stuff in the flight schools etc. I think you will find the read interesting.
Here is a quote from p. 107 of Welcome to Terrorland, "Atta had learned at U.S. military facilities, we discovered. As many as seven of the hijackers were in this country at the invitation of the U.S. Government. Keeping this knowledge secret has been an objective of the cover-up currently in progress."
Jannis, Zacarius Mussoui was turned into the FBI by his flight instructors here in Minnesota because he didn't want to learn how to land a plane. Some of the terrorists were getting trained at Venice, Florida airport. Some of it is documented in 'Welcome to Terrorland' by Hopsicker.
James Corbett has a few very good interviews with J. Michael Springmann, who was the US official in Saudi Arabia that was ordered to certify those visas when normally he would not. Of course he was replaced. Very interesting story. Corbettreport.com
Riannan no one knew why we were going to war in Iraq. Soldiers were getting exposed to chemical weapons and they still said Saddam didn't have chemical weapons. Saddam's involvement in 9/11 was hid under the rug. George W. not only didn't sell the Iraq war to the people he was naive on Islam as pointed out in Glen Kessler's book 'The Confidante' On p. 140-141 it talks about 'W' promoting democracy in Egypt only to find it would put the terrorist group The Muslim Brotherhood in charge and this is what played out under the Obama administration.
Clark, Saddam was a psychopath. He couldn't stop himself. That is why Dr. Laurie Mylroie wrote the book, 'Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's War Against America'. After Gulf War I we couldn't contain Saddam. Germany, France, Russia were violating the oil embargo. Saddam was getting money and logistic for the 9/11 attack from these illegal transactions. Pedro SanJuan a Bush appointee to the UN suggested this in his book 'The UN Gang.'
I worked for Norad and sorry, not true the 911 pilots that failed out of flight school could not fly a cessna 152 strait and level they were from Sudia Arabia not Iraq or Iran.
Wars Were Planned 7 Countries In 5 Years: General Wesley Clark
...During an interview in 2007, retired U.S. General Wesley Clark, explained that the Bush Administration had plans to тАШtake outтАЩ 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, тАЬSir, youтАЩve got to come in and talk to me a second.тАЭ I said, тАЬWell, youтАЩre too busy.тАЭ He said, тАЬNo, no.тАЭ He says, тАЬWeтАЩve made the decision weтАЩre going to war with Iraq.тАЭ This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, тАЬWeтАЩre going to war with Iraq? Why?тАЭ He said, тАЬI donтАЩt know.тАЭ He said, тАЬI guess they donтАЩt know what else to do.тАЭ So I said, тАЬWell, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?тАЭ He said, тАЬNo, no.тАЭ He says, тАЬThereтАЩs nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.тАЭ He said, тАЬI guess itтАЩs like we donтАЩt know what to do about terrorists, but weтАЩve got a good military and we can take down governments.тАЭ And he said, тАЬI guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.тАЭ
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, тАЬAre we still going to war with Iraq?тАЭ And he said, тАЬOh, itтАЩs worse than that.тАЭ He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, тАЬI just got this down from upstairsтАЭ тАФ meaning the Secretary of DefenseтАЩs office тАФ тАЬtoday.тАЭ And he said, тАЬThis is a memo that describes how weтАЩre going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.тАЭ I said, тАЬIs it classified?тАЭ He said, тАЬYes, sir.тАЭ I said, тАЬWell, donтАЩt show it to me.тАЭ And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, тАЬYou remember that?тАЭ He said, тАЬSir, I didnтАЩt show you that memo! I didnтАЩt show it to you!тАЭ
Dar as someone that held a TS clearance (graduated the class before PFC Manning) and read Wesley Clarck's book 'Waging Modern War' I can tell you the Pentagon has contingency plans for invading just about every country of interest. Its their standard operating procedure. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
This is Stange. There is no such thing as a general TS clearance. It's all over tv but has no meaning in the real military. In reality security clearances are compartmentalized. They are based on specific areas There no such thing as a general top-secret clearance.
Richard. Army Intelligence. Again, I graduated in the class before PFC Manning. They did a ten year background check on me. I held it for 4 years active duty and it was renewed for additional 4 years for calling me back if needed. While in the army, I also ran two marathons one in San Antonio and one in Baghdad, Iraq. Also ran the Batton Memorial Death March - that is running the distance of a marathon with a 40lb backpack at White Sands Missile Range.
Kevin, there was an assassination attempt on president W. Bush the day of the attack. Investigative reporter Daniel Hopsicker in his book 'Welcome to Terrorland' links CIA drug running to the airports in Florida where the terrorists were getting flight training. Much of the deep state links are there but very difficult to prove. I studied the Iraq war, deployed to Iraq, and communicated with experts on the subject of terrorism and Islam (Dr. Mylroie, and Nancy Herrtvelt Kobrin).
From what Dr. Mylroie was telling me she said the 'Jewish lobby (?)' wanted us to attack Iran and she stopped them and made the case it was Iraq that was involved in the 9/11 attack. I have the email quote somewhere if it is important for you to see her exact words.
That is a hilarious comment. 911 was a long time ago and the American public will never be told what really happened. Just like we will never know who killed JFK. Nice try.
Jannis I spent the time and had done my research with experts giving me their inside ball game analysis. I don't fully understand the deep state hand in this but fully understand Saddam's involvement in the Iraq War.
Kathleen Janoski all you have to do is look at the monthly terrorist attacks on https://thereligionofpeace.com/ . Their actions speak louder than any thing I could do to expose them.
Karl, Karl... Sure, there are nasty extremists, but who do you think funds and arms Arab terrorists, for heaven's sake? THE CIA. The Deep State NEEDS strife and conflict to grease the wheels of the military-industrial-complex war economy. The early riots that led to conflict in Syria, for example, were set up by the CIA, and had nothing to do with "Civil War." THE CIA FUNDS ISIS, just as they previously funded al Qaeda. Assad is not the bad guy, WE ARE! (And we're still in Syria illegally, stealing oil and grain.) Much of the trouble in other Middle Eastern countries (and Libya) is a direct result of U.S. agitation.
Don. Well, as a matter of fact I do know who funds Islamic terrorism. I was in contact with Dr. Laurie Mylroie. In the 9/11 Commission Report she is listed as an expert in state sponsorship of terrorism. Dr. Mylroie's book 'Study of Revenge' gives an account of the 1993 attack on the WTC. She points out Kahlid Mohammad and Ramsey Yusef were agents of Saddam from the Baluchistan region (Iran) a place Iraq has commonly recruited spies. In the middle east it is common for countries to support Islamic terrorism. There are a lot of hands funding terrorism. I mentioned it earlier there is a court case that was won implicating many countries funding the 9/11 attack including Iraq. I also suggest reading 'Willful Blindness' by the the guy who issued the attack for the 1993 WTC , the Blind sheik's (Omar Abdel Rahman) prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy. See the link below for court case.
Smith ex rel. Smith v. Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, 262 F. Supp.2d 217 (2003)
Kathleen Janoski, nevertheless, the link was made that Saddam Hussein (Iraq) was involved in attacking us on 9/11. My study on the Iraq war puts many of these atrocities under the leadership of Colin Powell versus that of Donald Rumsfeld. Iraq pulled a fast one on us making their government a theocracy (an Islamic country). Had we been told this truth the American people would have treated them far worse considering it was Islamic terrorism that started Gulf War II.
I met Donald Rumsfeld at a book signing on Fort Sam Houston. Read his book 'Known and Unknown'. The guy is very short and likely wrote the book out of confronting accusation against his involvement in Abu Ghrahib. Sadly, I didn't read the book 'The Lucifer Effect' until I was out of the army and away from my deployment to Iraq. Its author Philip Zimbardo (creator of the Stanford Prison Experiment) was consulted on reforms the army needed to make to its prisoners of war. Again, I think Rumsfeld got wrongly blamed - Just my opinion.
I have read your posts before. Both of us are veterans and angry at the VA. I figure there are hundreds if not thousands of veterans on these posts. I have no tech knowledge but if we can form a site where vets can speak to one another. It would help so much. I have not served in combat but have treated multiple veterans. The things I saw in inner city emergency rooms were bad enough.
Since I have no tech knowledge, can Steve or some vet with tech knowledge set up a forum for veterans to communicate. There is no way I trust twitter or face book. Veterans have important experiences to share with each other.
Bush and Tony Blair and Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell are war criminals.
You forgot to include Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice!
Karma by way of vax got colin powell.
Sorry but not sorry: he has hell to pay.
Yes he does, he lied and a million people died.
It goes way back to the gulf wars and people from Iran or Iraq. But our tv said they were savages. Iran and Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Real veterans
We know the real responsible parties behind 911.
Yes we certainly do. Here is a bit of history from William Cooper predicting 9/11 on a radio program aired June 28, 2001. This broadcast led to his assassination (on their 3rd attempt) a few months after 9/11. If you don't know who controls the CIA and who the illuminati really is, get the book The Secret Terrorists by Bill Hughes. One of their society members after reading this book made this statement and I quote "this book would be laughable if it weren't so accurate, but the author left out ALOT." Those are chilling words to me having read the book cover to cover. Not sure I want to know what was left out!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ib6fZh0P5P8O/
Yes we do.
The Iraq war is a confusing mess to understand because 'W' never promoted the war to the public. There were a lot of lies (and I am pissed off about them too) but Iraq's involvement in 9/11 was established in a court of law along with a lot of other Muslim countries.
See Smith ex. rel. v. Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (2003)
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/262/217/2395373/
The 1993 attack on the World Trade Center will give you context for the 2001 attack on the WTC; The same terrorists were involved.
Just another paid shill.
Wavector, wish I were paid. The subject of 9/11 and Muslim terrorism have been a huge passion at one point in my life.
"Established in a court of law". Are you for serious? 10 of those "hijackers" were photographed alive after 9/11, some of them flying for Saudi airlines.
Nanothermite was found in every dust sample examined.
Building 7 came down in it's own footprint in 6 1/2 seconds and wasn't hit by anything. That's called "free fall" secondary to controlled demolition.
Your still believing the "official story" of 9/11 tells me you are totally unprepared to comprehend what's going on with the Covid biowar.
Good luck with your transition into reality.
Dennis K McGee I am on top of the COVID biowar and I gave you the web link to the 9/11 court case. I pointed out it is complicated and is intended to make a lot of people confused. IMO there are two realities that are true. The deep state was involved in orchestrating 9/11 and Saddam and many other Muslim nations were willing accomplices in pulling off the terrorist attack. I am not knocking people for their far fetched ideas just saying you need more information to back up your claims so as not to look foolish. Many have not thoroughly thought threw their ideas making it easy to shoot them down.
There are billions ignorant, willfully and otherwise, and simply to be frank, yours is of no concern to me at this time.
I'll just add this admonition, a long held belief of mine - Ignorance is not BLISS, it is DEATH.
Have a good day.
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Karl, it's good that you have done some investigation of 9/11, but there is MUCH more to the story than what Daniel Hopsicker brings to the table. There are half a dozen people who have written very good books on the subject. I would refer you (for example) to Michael C. Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon. It's long and detailed, but puts a lot of pieces together -- all of them implicating Dick Cheney.
Have you heard of the "5 dancing Israelis" arrested on 9/11?" They are real, the FBI files are available (though heavily redacted), and the files are damning, even without all the info. All held airline tickets out of the country. They were detained for weeks, but eventually released without trial, thanks to leverage from high places. Mossad was following the "Hijackers" around (in the U.S.) for a long time; they and the other Arabs involved are incidental patsies, though their feelings for the USA were probably not cordial.
Read about Urban Moving, the Israeli company (in New Jersey) that closed immediately after 9-11, as the owner skipped the country. What kind of small moving company needs 16 computers (in 2001)? FBI files are also available regarding this.
Yes, the Neocons (you do know about PNAC, Project for the New American Century, don't you?) and Mossad worked together to pull off 9-11. The world would be a much safer and more peaceful place if Israel were vaporized.
"They were just filming it", for posterity.
Meanwhile.
The owner of the "moving company" fled back home, leaving a sea of not honored "moving" contracts, and a warehouse full of clients' unclaimed (donated...) household belongings in his wake.
According to New Jersey law enforcement and the man who owned the warehouse, circa 2001.
Guess what though?
He, along with his wife (and her online jewelry biz) are alive, well and back in the good old US of A.
Still grifting.
Interesting story. Not difficult to find either, even nearly 22 years later.
Have a boo!
"A former Urban Moving Systems employee later contacted the Newark Division with information indicating that he had quit his employment with Urban Moving Systems due to high amount of anti-American sentiment present among UrbanтАЩs employees. The former employee stated that an Israeli employee of Urban had even once remarked, 'Give us twenty years and weтАЩll take over your media and destroy your country.' тАЭ < That would be 2021, and I'd say they have done a pretty good job of that. >
"Little evidence of a legitimate business operation was found. Evidence recovery agents did seize, however, sixteen (16) separate computer units used by Urban Moving Systems."
Actually it's been known for awhile that is was mosad and w actually recruited the participants. They prob 1099'd them.
Stevo, you got to prove it. 9/11 is filled with wild accusations and loads of disinformation. I have gone down lots of rabbit holes only to find out it was information put out to discredit conspiracy buffs. The more incredible the claim the more information you need to back it up.
I prove it by using the government lies about it. It's their memo, it's their immunity they granted to isreal/mosad through the patriot act, and the memo that says they recruited them. Plus they specifically said it wasn't them, which means it was. Because, "there are no aliens," "it's a weather balloon," "your vote counts " it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated," "safe & effective." See how that works?!
I am married to a Delta Airline pilot and he and most other pilots laugh at the government narrative of the 911 attacks. In the end the truth will come out.
I'm not the pilot just married to is one that is flying to Japan now. He told me that under 5000 feet airspeed is usually restricted to 250 knots. Jetliners are not fighter planes and have g force limits, so he thought that the maneuvers by the planes of the planes that hit the pentagon and wtc one and two would have caused structural failure.
Respect and love for falling for one criminal government lie after another and going on to murder innocent people based on those lies? And getting ready now to go and murder Russians who suffered attacks from the US regime installed in Kiev for for 8 long years and 16,000 dead because Russia just decided one day "for no reason" to "invade" areas their people were being systematically murdered in? No thanks.
This is what we are told to believe 16 pilots from Saudi Arabia, most of which could not even fly a single propellor plane strait or level, and failed out of flight school broke into cockpits with boxcutters and disabled marine and navy pilots and flew advanced jumbo jets into the twin towers and pentagon. Dude you must be on drugs.
We had caught one of the terrorists here in Minnesota. Check it out his name is Zacarius Moussoui. Daniel Hopsicker had done investigative reporting on Mohammed Atta in his book 'Welcome to Terrorland'. You can find an interview he has of Mohamed Atta's girlfriend (Amanda Keller) online. Hopsicker looks into the shady stuff in the flight schools etc. I think you will find the read interesting.
This is not rocket science. If you can't fly a single prop Cessna, you can't take over the controls of a 757 or 767.
Here is a quote from p. 107 of Welcome to Terrorland, "Atta had learned at U.S. military facilities, we discovered. As many as seven of the hijackers were in this country at the invitation of the U.S. Government. Keeping this knowledge secret has been an objective of the cover-up currently in progress."
Jannis, Zacarius Mussoui was turned into the FBI by his flight instructors here in Minnesota because he didn't want to learn how to land a plane. Some of the terrorists were getting trained at Venice, Florida airport. Some of it is documented in 'Welcome to Terrorland' by Hopsicker.
I suppose if you can't drive a stick shift you can't drive an automatic transmission either.
Totally different thing.
There was a funny video of a gang member that tried to steal old Ferrari with a 5 speed manual. He just had no clue and got busted.
I think he is in supermax prison for life. He failed flight school for gross incomitance.
James Corbett has a few very good interviews with J. Michael Springmann, who was the US official in Saudi Arabia that was ordered to certify those visas when normally he would not. Of course he was replaced. Very interesting story. Corbettreport.com
W Bush never promoted the war to the public? What type of drugs are your on? Or are you just another AI bot. We are aware you are here.
Riannan no one knew why we were going to war in Iraq. Soldiers were getting exposed to chemical weapons and they still said Saddam didn't have chemical weapons. Saddam's involvement in 9/11 was hid under the rug. George W. not only didn't sell the Iraq war to the people he was naive on Islam as pointed out in Glen Kessler's book 'The Confidante' On p. 140-141 it talks about 'W' promoting democracy in Egypt only to find it would put the terrorist group The Muslim Brotherhood in charge and this is what played out under the Obama administration.
In my opinion, George W. went after Saddam Hussain because he tried to assassinate his father.
Clark, Saddam was a psychopath. He couldn't stop himself. That is why Dr. Laurie Mylroie wrote the book, 'Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's War Against America'. After Gulf War I we couldn't contain Saddam. Germany, France, Russia were violating the oil embargo. Saddam was getting money and logistic for the 9/11 attack from these illegal transactions. Pedro SanJuan a Bush appointee to the UN suggested this in his book 'The UN Gang.'
Total BS. Those in the military that know don't believe you.
I worked for Norad and sorry, not true the 911 pilots that failed out of flight school could not fly a cessna 152 strait and level they were from Sudia Arabia not Iraq or Iran.
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True dat.
In reality it was Mossad, Dick Cheney and the neocons.
From-the-horses-mouth dept... worldtruth.tv /wars-were-planned-7-countries-in-5-years-general-wesley-clark/
Wars Were Planned 7 Countries In 5 Years: General Wesley Clark
...During an interview in 2007, retired U.S. General Wesley Clark, explained that the Bush Administration had plans to тАШtake outтАЩ 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, тАЬSir, youтАЩve got to come in and talk to me a second.тАЭ I said, тАЬWell, youтАЩre too busy.тАЭ He said, тАЬNo, no.тАЭ He says, тАЬWeтАЩve made the decision weтАЩre going to war with Iraq.тАЭ This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, тАЬWeтАЩre going to war with Iraq? Why?тАЭ He said, тАЬI donтАЩt know.тАЭ He said, тАЬI guess they donтАЩt know what else to do.тАЭ So I said, тАЬWell, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?тАЭ He said, тАЬNo, no.тАЭ He says, тАЬThereтАЩs nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.тАЭ He said, тАЬI guess itтАЩs like we donтАЩt know what to do about terrorists, but weтАЩve got a good military and we can take down governments.тАЭ And he said, тАЬI guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.тАЭ
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, тАЬAre we still going to war with Iraq?тАЭ And he said, тАЬOh, itтАЩs worse than that.тАЭ He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, тАЬI just got this down from upstairsтАЭ тАФ meaning the Secretary of DefenseтАЩs office тАФ тАЬtoday.тАЭ And he said, тАЬThis is a memo that describes how weтАЩre going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.тАЭ I said, тАЬIs it classified?тАЭ He said, тАЬYes, sir.тАЭ I said, тАЬWell, donтАЩt show it to me.тАЭ And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, тАЬYou remember that?тАЭ He said, тАЬSir, I didnтАЩt show you that memo! I didnтАЩt show it to you!тАЭ
Dar as someone that held a TS clearance (graduated the class before PFC Manning) and read Wesley Clarck's book 'Waging Modern War' I can tell you the Pentagon has contingency plans for invading just about every country of interest. Its their standard operating procedure. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
This is Stange. There is no such thing as a general TS clearance. It's all over tv but has no meaning in the real military. In reality security clearances are compartmentalized. They are based on specific areas There no such thing as a general top-secret clearance.
Mine was signals communications and biowarfare.
Richard. Army Intelligence. Again, I graduated in the class before PFC Manning. They did a ten year background check on me. I held it for 4 years active duty and it was renewed for additional 4 years for calling me back if needed. While in the army, I also ran two marathons one in San Antonio and one in Baghdad, Iraq. Also ran the Batton Memorial Death March - that is running the distance of a marathon with a 40lb backpack at White Sands Missile Range.
That last one sounds insane...
Kevin, there was an assassination attempt on president W. Bush the day of the attack. Investigative reporter Daniel Hopsicker in his book 'Welcome to Terrorland' links CIA drug running to the airports in Florida where the terrorists were getting flight training. Much of the deep state links are there but very difficult to prove. I studied the Iraq war, deployed to Iraq, and communicated with experts on the subject of terrorism and Islam (Dr. Mylroie, and Nancy Herrtvelt Kobrin).
From what Dr. Mylroie was telling me she said the 'Jewish lobby (?)' wanted us to attack Iran and she stopped them and made the case it was Iraq that was involved in the 9/11 attack. I have the email quote somewhere if it is important for you to see her exact words.
That is a hilarious comment. 911 was a long time ago and the American public will never be told what really happened. Just like we will never know who killed JFK. Nice try.
Jannis I spent the time and had done my research with experts giving me their inside ball game analysis. I don't fully understand the deep state hand in this but fully understand Saddam's involvement in the Iraq War.
We know the shooter was 1099'd and put through russian language classes by the u s.
The warmongers in DC have a way of demonizing people as savages.
I guess it makes their deaths nothing but a blip on a radar screen.
Same as what the Nazis did.
The Holocaust started with words.
Vermin. Unclean.
Kathleen Janoski all you have to do is look at the monthly terrorist attacks on https://thereligionofpeace.com/ . Their actions speak louder than any thing I could do to expose them.
Karl, Karl... Sure, there are nasty extremists, but who do you think funds and arms Arab terrorists, for heaven's sake? THE CIA. The Deep State NEEDS strife and conflict to grease the wheels of the military-industrial-complex war economy. The early riots that led to conflict in Syria, for example, were set up by the CIA, and had nothing to do with "Civil War." THE CIA FUNDS ISIS, just as they previously funded al Qaeda. Assad is not the bad guy, WE ARE! (And we're still in Syria illegally, stealing oil and grain.) Much of the trouble in other Middle Eastern countries (and Libya) is a direct result of U.S. agitation.
Don. Well, as a matter of fact I do know who funds Islamic terrorism. I was in contact with Dr. Laurie Mylroie. In the 9/11 Commission Report she is listed as an expert in state sponsorship of terrorism. Dr. Mylroie's book 'Study of Revenge' gives an account of the 1993 attack on the WTC. She points out Kahlid Mohammad and Ramsey Yusef were agents of Saddam from the Baluchistan region (Iran) a place Iraq has commonly recruited spies. In the middle east it is common for countries to support Islamic terrorism. There are a lot of hands funding terrorism. I mentioned it earlier there is a court case that was won implicating many countries funding the 9/11 attack including Iraq. I also suggest reading 'Willful Blindness' by the the guy who issued the attack for the 1993 WTC , the Blind sheik's (Omar Abdel Rahman) prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy. See the link below for court case.
Smith ex rel. Smith v. Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, 262 F. Supp.2d 217 (2003)
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/262/217/2395373/
Theat website is pure garbage propaganda. AI bots proliferate and we have a new one.
Dave let the web page speak for itself. The Islamic attacks are mentioned individually and can be looked up individually.
The US government are not exactly the good guys.
Drone strike on a wedding party in Iraq...thanks Gen. Mattis.
Drone strike on a family in Afghanistan after Kabul fell.
US government funding the weaponization of the coronavirus at UNC Chapel Hill and Wuhan.
US government funding bioweapons labs in Ukraine.
We are not innocent.
Agree with the other military people. 911 was PNAC and Mossad. Saddam had nothing to do with it.
Kathleen Janoski, nevertheless, the link was made that Saddam Hussein (Iraq) was involved in attacking us on 9/11. My study on the Iraq war puts many of these atrocities under the leadership of Colin Powell versus that of Donald Rumsfeld. Iraq pulled a fast one on us making their government a theocracy (an Islamic country). Had we been told this truth the American people would have treated them far worse considering it was Islamic terrorism that started Gulf War II.
Donald Rumsfeld is responsible for forcing the troops to take the anthrax vaccine which is one of the causes of Gulf War Syndrome.
https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/informed-consent-military-anthrax-vaccination-case/2007-10
I met Donald Rumsfeld at a book signing on Fort Sam Houston. Read his book 'Known and Unknown'. The guy is very short and likely wrote the book out of confronting accusation against his involvement in Abu Ghrahib. Sadly, I didn't read the book 'The Lucifer Effect' until I was out of the army and away from my deployment to Iraq. Its author Philip Zimbardo (creator of the Stanford Prison Experiment) was consulted on reforms the army needed to make to its prisoners of war. Again, I think Rumsfeld got wrongly blamed - Just my opinion.
I have read your posts before. Both of us are veterans and angry at the VA. I figure there are hundreds if not thousands of veterans on these posts. I have no tech knowledge but if we can form a site where vets can speak to one another. It would help so much. I have not served in combat but have treated multiple veterans. The things I saw in inner city emergency rooms were bad enough.
You know I was reticent about using my real name. But, I said f*ck it.
If Drs. Alexander and McCullough and Makis and Kory and Marik and Zelenko can step in the breach, then that is the least I can do.
Mom always said my big mouth would get me in trouble.
Since I have no tech knowledge, can Steve or some vet with tech knowledge set up a forum for veterans to communicate. There is no way I trust twitter or face book. Veterans have important experiences to share with each other.
I have no tech knowledge either.
No smartphone. Just a flip phone. No TV.
Almost in Amish territory.