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Next study says that yours mentioned study is biased: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8629773/#bib0025 quoting: "We thus avoided the pitfall of drawing biased conclusions from the study of rural and urban counties combined [25]"

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Nod Dranoel's avatar

roflmao. I see more than one study

Truth hurts I know, but I would rather smell shit than eat shit.

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Common Sense's avatar

The study from July when very few were vaccinated and the data was from spring and summer? Lol come on get better

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guest's avatar

Thanks for proving that no matter what the REAL science shows the brainwashed will never believe it.

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Katherine's avatar

So my girl, born 1995, got one set of well baby shots at 2 months of age. Developed horrifying colic and diaper rash. It cleared in 3 months but I never went back for more shots. Felt scalded and afraid but did not realize it was the injections filled with mercury, aluminum, human primitive DNA, etc., etc., that caused her issues.

Skip forward to 1999. I put her in a small private Episcopal School.

They literally lied to me, said, "If she does not take all the shots she will never go to school in the state of Florida."

I thought I had to. I thought, "every other child takes them and appears to be fine." After the first set she became very seriously ill,

and wound up in the hospital with pneumonia. Fighting for her life at 4 years of age.

I now know from the Guinea Bessou study that deaths by sepsis and pneumonia in vaxxed little girls are 10× higher than Mumps, Measles and Rubella ever were. Same with DPT. More unvaccinated survive than vaxxed. Fact. Vaxxes kill kids more often than anyone knows in the mainstream medical world. But the studies are there to prove it, if you look.

After that she received 3 more sets. To be compliant. It almost killed her. Totally destroyed immune system. Allergic to everything on Earth. Miserable permanent Rhinitis and unending stomach pain. Caught every bug on Earth.

Eliminating all allergens and years of herbal medicine got her 3/4 of the way to healthy. I think that's a win, considering.

I did not understand, at the time. Looking back I cannot believe I did what a pack of ignorant fools told me I had to, and watched my daughter's health and happiness be destroyed as a result.

But, it made me dig for the facts for 2 decades afterwards. I now know what was in those injections. And will never ever listen to "experts" again.

Pity the people who are now where I was then. It's terrifying. And will break your heart when you know what you have done to those you love.

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Michael A. Stilinovich's avatar

Hello Katherine,

My heart breaks when I hear stories such as yours. I'm very grateful for your words of wisdom.

I also learned, with good reason as well as facts, to lose more than faith in the allopathic medicines of the west. Without going into too many details, two of my siblings went to the medical establishment for help. One died young, brother 34, and my sister now 67 has been bed ridden for approximately 5 yrs and recently admitted to a nursing home as my brother in law couldn't provide 24/7 care. He's a Saint in my book for the care and patience he's displayed for the past 20 plus years.

For the most part the people in the medical industry have noble intentions but the schooling of all medical doctors and nurses is indoctrination first implemented by the Rockefellers.

The following I copied from;

https://meridianhealthclinic.com/how-rockefeller-created-the-business-of-western-medicine/

"Anyone who introduces a treatment outside of the allopathic paradigm is summarily punished, vilified, ridiculed, attacked and eventually nullified, ostracized and eliminated from the public discourse, and their funding is quickly cut off. The credentials, education, accomplishments, etc., of the person do not matter. The punishment is the same for all of these ‘medical heretics’ who do not ‘tow the allopathic line’."

But it's written in a way, especially with the extensive reading and research I have done, that I agree word for word of it.

Much like the suppression of all dissenting views on the plandemic.

God bless you,

Michael A. Stilinovich

p.s. please keep spreading your light and truth

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Katherine's avatar

Thank you for your kind words. By the Grace of God I wound up studying with a brilliant practitioner of TCM, Homeopathy, and Western Eclectic Medicine, (and who was also a Western Medicine Veternarian, although she almost never utilized that modality, ) who I watched cure or reverse, or provide relief for, one "irreversible" health condition after another!

And, she and others like her knew the actual causation of all these conditions and illnesses that are labeled " etiology unknown," by those who run the system. Just for more profits, once you really get to the bottom of things.

And the poor doctors, many of whom truly want to help their patients, are the most clueless and misled of all! They have no healing tools in their toolboxes, and are completely in the dark as to the effects of their toxic options, as well as the diseases caused by the poisonous nature of our food supply, air, & water, and the absence of high quality nutrition in most people's diets.

My girl is "recovered," but never will she have the robust good health she had before the Injections. Or the happiness either. And for me the hardest part is that she lined up for the experimental mRNA jab to keep her life in Los Angeles comfortable.

No immediate catastrophe ensued, but, the long term possibilities look very grave to me.

The amount of coercion utilized to force people into this experiment is the greatest act of evil I have witnessed in 61 years of life.

I pray humanity finally wakes up and comprehends that all "Rulers" are inherently evil. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts completely.

Never, ever, give your power away to others. That's my final lesson and conclusion.

God Bless you and all your loved ones. Perhaps all this suffering will lead us to Wisdom, finally.

Katherine Green

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Pro-Informed Choice's avatar

Thanks Steve for your excellent work. I agree with your premise. I just don't think the graph provides any valuable data. Please see the ourworldindata link below which shows cases increase in line with number of tests. Given the recent phenomena of massive queuues to get tested, your graph looks more like correlation than causation. Would like to see similar with a vertical axis of cases per number tested. The more we test the higher the number of cases. Better to know 'Cases per 100,000 tests'. The more tests you do, obviously the more cases: a major confounding factor. Without measuring cases per 100,000 tests, (or per million), there is no valid proof of Steve Kirsch's claim. The graph is based on number of cases only. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-daily-tests-vs-daily-new-confirmed-cases-per-million https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-more-we-vaccinate-the-higher

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Tyler McKinnon's avatar

That’s what i was thinking too. I live in Idaho, and we are one of the dots on the left, but of course we will have less cases, we have less people.

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IdahoFred's avatar

A while back someone in my friend's household, one of the teenage boys I think, got Covid and then everyone in the house, dad, mom, 2 teenage boys got it. No one was hospitalized. Later they all got 2 vaccine jabs. Me and the dad had a social lunch planned for today but yesterday he called me to tell me that one of the son's brought Covid home from school and infected his brother and mother. Dad is not infected yet. Mother also had the third jab. We canceled lunch as I am not vaccinated. This is in Idaho.

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Howard T. Lewis III's avatar

You get an A+++ for sharing this. If some maggot can not read and follow simple lab instructions, do not allow their immaturity and compulsiveness become your problem. Keep it their problem. I know from personal experience that acing a university's first year Microbiology lecture and lab section is as easy as working at Starbuck's. If you can avoid pouring coffee into the microwave or grinding a bagel, you can ace first year Microbiology. If you are a mewling little whiner who needs mother's 24/7 attention, best to stay home and be sent to a FEMA camp to learn personal responsibility when your welfare is taken away.

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IdahoFred's avatar

Are you spamming everyone with this?

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Nikita's avatar

Why would you call the truth spam? Are you that asleep? Spend more time reading the proof the document holds than criticizing that we sent it. Our agency has advised thousands of people, groups and organizations in 12 states and 3 countries since March of 2020 with the proof and 100% accuracy.

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Howard T. Lewis III's avatar

A chimp figured this out months ago. A hairy chimp. Only the chimp was smart enough to blame the Death Jabs posing as vaccines for the confirmed serious illnesses cropping up, as well as the chimp PROVING that the entire medical boards of Hawaii and elsewhere were LYING people into a state off poor health, denying proven CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE cures to these patients. This eventually or soon thereafter killed them.

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Howard T. Lewis III's avatar

I am glad I am not a greedy pig of a doctor.

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Charles Gomez's avatar

Looks pretty random to me. We need a clearer trend before making any claims.

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chocoholic's avatar

Agree with Hawkeye that the R2 value is very low. It might suggest something, but that alone isn't enough to suggest further research. We already have enough data to suggest a lot of research, and this R2 value isn't it.

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Jason's avatar

no standardisation of testing methodology across states; variable testing rates; variable quality of lab analysis; vaxxed believe narrative = more likely to get tested; PCR not diagnostic of any disease; "virus" never isolated; "virus" never proven to be mono-causal agent of covid19. I could go on...

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Lidia's avatar

It's intentional.

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Rose Greenfield's avatar

STEVE KIRSCH - If I were you, I would remove “Jeff” and “p3ck3rwood” from your comments section. I have been a paid subscriber for quite some time and have found your site to be very helpful. However, these nutjobs are making me doubt the site’s credibility. Thank you.

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Wolf J Flywheel's avatar

I don't know, some of your comments actually are suspiciously just like what a corrupt establishment's shill might claim with "trends in rural areas" etc. Maybe you're completely on the up and up.

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Bill's avatar

They are poisoning the well intentionally. They will also say a lot of nasty things or things that arouse anger in order to upset viewers. Now is not the time to be divided.

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Rose Greenfield's avatar

Thank you, Steve. I don’t want to be part of an echo chamber - we must follow the facts where they lead.

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Marie's avatar

You might know this, Steve, but Cornell University is having a "spike" despite its 97% vax rate. Red alert level, with 469 active cases. Final exams will be remote! There's a link to their dashboard in the article. I wonder if they treat students who have the virus? I see that they offer mental health counseling for students and employees. What about early treatment for the virus??

https://cornellsun.com/2021/12/14/cornell-shuts-down-campus-facilities-moves-finals-online/?fbclid=IwAR00k5rC-y75PgadaOo8fKlFMP4O_UREWeCRV63ixNW0PgyBGnNcReVmvZc

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Howard T. Lewis III's avatar

How can you have a 'COVID-19' spike when the CDC confessed under government investigation that the PCR tests were 100% fraudulent positives? And the inoculations are not vaccines, but different concentrations of Death Jabs or otherwise just saline solutions. Search: "howbadismybatch.com/states" You been had. They are using the common cold and influenza for 'COVID-19' data.

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John Q Liberty's avatar

They "just follow orders"... Where have we heard THAT before?

Never forget.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Hey Steve, check the link for the study...in G-mail it doesn't work. When I came to this page in Chrome - it works fine. 🤔 Screwggle's BigTech fuckery at work?

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MountainBlues's avatar

Ditch gmail!!

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Yeah...I know.

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Miss Daisy's avatar

FYI: an R2 value of 0.0269 is VERY LOW. It may be statistically significant, but it means that a VERY small percentage of the variance is "accounted for" by these two variables.

Yes, the line of best fit is going the wrong way, but it is of pretty low "meaningful significance".

All that said, I agree the vaccines are terrible. They were never designed to work, and it is absolutely terrifying that those vaccinated before naturally infected appear to be much worse off that those infected naturally only, or vaccinated after natural infection. The risk profile of these vaccines is also absolutely insane, and somehow we need to get someone to step up and put an end to this complete madness.

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TaxDonkey's avatar

I took the significance of that chart to be that it did not slope downward to the right like you'd expect it to if the CV19 inoculations even remotely worked. To me the chart looks like random numbers with no real correlation between the two variables.

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TheLastCaucasian's avatar

EXACTLY, thank you. I don't think the critics here actually watched the video, and the breakdown within.

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Jason Morphett PhD's avatar

Well said 👏

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Jon Boone's avatar

Perhaps folks will begin to “believe” the data when Steve, Alex Berenson, Peter McCullough, and a legion of other soothsayers stop labeling these COVID inocula “vaccines.” They are not. Allowing themselves to be captured and used as linguistic pawns by the COVID glitterati in order to get a seat at the discussion constitutes bizarre Orwellian theatre—and rhetorical suicide. Please stop.

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GK's avatar

Hard data is out there. It doesn't seem to matter at all to the sheep. VAERS, data is widely available, and widely interpreted as showing trouble brewing. The sheep still don't care.

No one is going to be convinced one way or the other by what term is used to characterize the shots. Seeing the data should be like a baseball bat upside the head, still the sheep... Dancing around the word "vaccine" isn't even a feather duster to these people. Odds are they'll pay even less attention because they won't know what you're talking about.

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arthur brogard's avatar

It's not a question of convincing them. There's no head-on convincing of them. We know that. That's the whole problem.

And they are simplistic and confrontational. i.e. they are not in discussion mode nor are they in information gathering mode.

They are primed to fight, to see you as an enemy.

And they are primed to lock in the current narrative as the 'group narrative' and 'together they stand or fall'.

Yep So what word you use for vaccine isn't going to help.

We need to be more cunning that.

We cannot try to give them information - they're primed to resist that.

we cannot confront them evidence or challenge - they're primed to fight that.

The only way to 'beat' them is by cunning.

Pretend to be on their side.

Don't like it? Goes against the grain? Want to be more honest? Well remember, essentially we ARE on their side. We DO see harm being done to THEM as well as us. Millions of THEM. Across the globe. Millions.

So pretend a little.

Don't confront, don't argue, don't try to inform, don't try to persuade.

Blind side them. Shift the focus. Talk about something else. A 'neutral' third party they're not primed to resist.

Agree with them. Pretend to be on their side but bring in at times, in effect, talk of nothing else but the Immune System.

Say things like : 'Isn't it good what the vaccines do to get our Immune Systems started early?'

They probably didn't even know that. Now they do. And you got it into their heads. slyly.

Then you can say stuff like: 'Isn't it a shame we couldn't have had a healthy Immune System ready for the vax to get started the better to work for the final outcome?'

How they going to argue against that?

And stuff like: ' When it gets the Immune System started isn't it a shame it can't get any help from some of those cheap well known anti-virals?'

Get the idea?

Hope you do.

I think it is the way to go.

There are many who don't, though.

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Jon Boone's avatar

“No one is going to be convinced….”? I am one who is convinced. And I think millions of others are, too. I understand your point about the masses that won’t be. But thought leaders like Steve should not be co-opted by demonstrably perverted language that undermines their evidence and their point of view. My comment was directed at them.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Agreed, I am saying mNRA genetic therapy, and also 'the whack-scene' as it whacks people.

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arthur brogard's avatar

Yes. I think we should drop the word 'vaccine' for it gives it centre stage and hogs the discussion and detracts from the truth.

Just leave the word out and talk about what's happening, what's proposed.

Like: ' Should we be priming and pre-starting immune systems when we don't know what settings to use?'

'Should we prime again when priming didn't work last time?'

'Do we know what effect repeated priming with wrong settings will have?'

'Should we prestart all immune systems when only <5% are actually ever found to be in need of any such 'help' ?'

'Once we've preset the immune system how do we undo those settings when they turn out to be ineffective?'

'If we're going to prestart the immune system shouldn't we give it this anti-viral additive to help it out?'

'If prestarting gives only 0.1% improved performance will that compensate for State induced deterioration in performance due to State mandated inhuman measures?'

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Jenny  Trimble's avatar

Arthur, I like the more generic idea!

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Castigator's avatar

Too sophisticated for everyday use. I believe Dr. Zelenko´s poison death shot covers the ground succinctly.

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arthur brogard's avatar

Yep, you're right. I've mixed up what I wanted to say, really. those sorts of sentences are obviously aimed at enquiring people willing to engage in discussion. That's a level of sophistication we don't find in the mass unfortunately.

But the basic idea: of substituting and always involving the concept of the immune system is aimed at the mass. Is where I think it will do most good.

So I should have used kind two sets of example sentences. One for the 'sophisticated' and another for general use.

For general use I'd suggest such as ( a kind of Australian colloquial )

'Yes, mate, good, bloody shame we couldn't have got our immune systems up to par ready for this isn't it?'

'Christ, mate, 0.1% improvement they offer - mate if I could have had some sunshine on my old grannie she would have improved her immune system on that alone, isn't it?'

'Ain't it strange? The vax sends my Immune System in to bat and won't let it take a good anti-viral with it?'

' Innit funny - the vax relies entirely on my Immune System and everything the govt has done for the last two has hurt and is hurting my Immune System? '

They sound like questions but they're not. They are sly injections of a concept into people's heads.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

We are not machines, true, but if you keep priming a car engine, you flood it. Similar.

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LK3's avatar

Agreed. It’s easy to fall into nut I try to always refer to them as inoculations. Clotshot works to.

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Jon Boone's avatar

People must stop using the word “vaccine” to describe a drug that was never designed to be immunizing nor even one that would prevent transmission. Like flu shots, the hope was to reduce the severity of disease systems for most people. And that’s all.

The rather instantaneous invention of definitions that are inimical to the traditional definitions of words, clearly for political purposes, is one of the black/white themes of George Orwell’s 1984, which was itself influenced by Lewis Carroll’s Through the Looking Glass, where Humpty Dumpty told the Red Queen and the Mad Hatter: “When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.” Dumpty also said, “When I make a word do a lot of work … I always pay it extra.”

The nation's public health agencies (viz., the CDC, NIH), their political apparatchiks, and their media boosters will try to sell it to the Supreme Court on the basis of their “authority,” absent empirical evidence or even definitional integrity, so that they can invoke the precedent of Jacobson versus Massachusetts (1905) in an attempt to deceive the justices into believing that a glorified flu shot is just like a smallpox immunizing vaccination. Here, fish are one with bicycles. If this deception is successful, and the Supreme Court rules that any such “therapeutic" can be made mandatory for all based upon such blatant manipulation of language, then the future is dire-- for medicine, liberty, and meaningful epistemological dialog. Big Pharma’s victory will be total and complete. And based upon a whopper of a Big Lie. However, it’s imperative to insist on definitions of word usage extant at the time of Supreme Court precedents, so that apples can be accurately connected to apples.

The misuse of the meaning of “vaccine” is intentional—and designed to mislead the courts. If jurists feel that the mRNA drugs are comparable to real vaccines that immunize and halt the spread of disease, then we are really sunk, given the legal precedents protecting the use of actual immunizing vaccines.

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Lidia's avatar

Since we are on the importance of definitions, I've long been interested in the word, "authority". It's similar to "author". The "authority", when obeyed, is the entity that gets to control the plot line of your life.

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Jon Boone's avatar

You might have fun exploring the linked etymology of both words as they stem from concepts about the origins of things, about the notion of influence, and, not least, about the nature of expertise to create and control narrative. Have at it.

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LK3's avatar

Although I agree with you that the clotshots are not vaccines, I definitely don’t agree that they are glorified “flu shots.” The VAERS data alone , without using an under reporting factor, demonstrate the enormous damage they have already done. If we add in a reasonable URF the damage is at least one magnitude greater. And what damage will be done in the future because of damage to people’s immune systems or via widespread microclotting is totally unknown at this time. Flu shots never had this degree of downside.

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Katherine's avatar

Folks, this is simple in my mind; first, mRNA tech has NEVER been used on humans before!

These experiments do NOT stop infections or transmission, therefore by any sane definition are NOT "vaccines," at all!

Finally, what part of injecting a nano lipid particle trojan horse into your own cells, to force them into producing the very toxic Spike Protien that does all the damage in SARS-COV-2 sounds GOOD to you?!?!?!

If people cannot comprehend those 3 facts then they are beyond the reach of rational thought. Let them find out for themselves.

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Jon Boone's avatar

Shout this out to Steve. And Alex. And a host of others who, despite knowing what you know, continue to use the word "vaccine" in its politically perverted sense, actively cutting off their rhetorical noses to spite the face of their general argument. This kind of hari-kari recently infected the Supreme Court mandate appeal, jeopardizing a rational, informed constitutional decision. I've suggested the word "fauxine."

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Katherine's avatar

I agree. They are NOT vaccines by any reasonable or legal definition. They are a treatment therapy, designed to simply lower the recipient's case of one specific viral strain. They do not stop either infection or transmission.

Dr. Peter McCullough has stated that by tegulatory definition, (either CDC or FDA) a vaccine must provide a minimum level of immunity of 50%, and last for the minimum of one year. The Covid Injections, (my own favorite as you are injecting the instructions for Covid's Spike Protien, and many recipients come down with Covid, post jab,) do neither, therefore, by definition, they are not vaccines at all!!

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Jon Boone's avatar

Let me clarify. Annual flu shots were never referred to as vaccines. The stated goal for them was to reduce overall mortality, particularly among the elderly, and to mitigate the most severe flu symptoms for most. Most people understood flu shots didn't immunize or halt the spread of disease. Years of followup data shows at best equivocal evidence for their ability to reduce overall mortality and at best marginal success in most years in easing symptoms. I agree with you that their "safety" record has been generally tolerable, although many in the RFK Jr camp would disagree.

When I dubbed the COVID fauxines "glorified flu shots," I meant this is what they should have been labeled from the getgo. No one should have called them vaccines. However, as "emergency use" therapeutics, they were never subjected to years of testing for long range safety and efficacy, as flu shots were. And because of their mRNA strategy (and the results of previous testing for it), experts didn't take long to predict the damage they are now causing, as you rightly point out. Indeed, Pfizer itself predicted this outcome.

I couldn't agree with you more about the physical damage these COVID fauxines are now doing--and will do for years, if not generations, to come. On top of that is the emotional and societal damage that may never be undone.

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LK3's avatar

Thanks for the excellent clarification! We’re in complete agreement. Btw, I really like the descriptive noun fauxine.

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