TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: As of May 2023 the webpage of Health Freedom for Humanity is down, however, I managed to view the video of this podcast via archive.org's Way Back Machine. The hosts are Alec Zeck and Dr. Devin Vrana. https://www.devinvrana.com/
ALEC ZECK: So I want to start with, prior to, prior to him receiving the first dose, where you both were at in your life, where was his health level, and what were your perceptions of everything going on in the world?
LAURA KACZMARSKI: We're both retired, my husband and I were both retired, and we would just spend our days together. Last October we rescued a dog and we would walk the dog and just, we would just, we just would sit together and spend time together. I would do a lot of research and stuff on the computer, I spent like a lot of time on the computer, and my husband would watch a lot of TV. And then he always wanted me to sit with him and then you know we would hold hands, you know, he, I'd be sitting in the chair and he'd be sitting on the couch, and there was an end table between us, and we would always hold hands and just talk and have conversations about current events.
And I would go on and on about the vaccine, and how he shouldn't get it because I wasn't going to get it, and you know, to him I'm like, I was a conspiracy person. And he, he believed what the government was telling him. He believed, like, well, not the government but Fauci, what Fauci was saying, what the news channels were saying, that you have to get the vaccine, and the more people that get the vaccine, the better you're going to be, and — [sighs]
We were just in a really good place, just enjoying the retirement, enjoying being together, enjoying the new dog, just, just enjoying life.
He was, he was, he was a, he was sharp, he was, he was just wonderful. And then he decided he would go along and get the vaccine.
And he waited for the Moderna vaccine, based on his niece who works for a doctor at the Cleveland Clinic, based on her recommendation. So he waited. And that vaccine became available in March. He got the first injection on March 26th. And immediately, he started sleeping more, immediately.
And then on April 23rd he got the second injection. But his cognitive abilities immediately changed. Within the first 30 days he was, he was sleeping constantly, I mean, it was like up to 18 hours. And I'm like, Jeez! And then after the second shot, he started sleeping up to 22 hours.
And his cognitive abilities were just plummeting. It's like, he couldn't remember anything that he wanted to say, and he kept asking me, what the words were that he wanted to say. So, because he couldn't even have a conversation, he couldn't complete a sentence without forgetting what he needed to say, what he wanted to say.
And I would get frustrated because, I, it's like, I just didn't understand what was going on. And then he just started sleeping more. And all he would do is sleep.
And he had a problem with his one knee and he thought that he needed a knee replacement surgery. It's like he blew every little ache, every little pain out of proportion, something that he hadn't done in the past. So we got him an appointment with an orthopedist. He went to the orthopedist, and the orthopedist said there's nothing— [Alec Zeck's live image disappears from screen] Are you there?
ALEC ZECK: Yeah. Sorry, keep going.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: OK.
ALEC ZECK: I'm sorry, I don't know why.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: OK, there you are. And so the orthopedist says that it looked more like a neurological problem. And that was in June. So we immediately made an appointment to see his primary care physician.
When his primary care physician saw him, he was literally in a state of shock. Because my husband was, he weighed like 200 pounds in April. And by the time we took him to see his primary care physician, had lost over 40 pounds. So he went from a size 40 and now he was like a size 36. His clothes were falling off him. His face, it's like, it's like he had no life in his face. He wasn't joking. He was always the jokester. He wasn't joking anymore.
So the doctor immediately started scheduling blood work and head scans and brain scans, and and referred him to a neurologist to to rule out Parkinson's. Because he had a tremor in his hand which was, well, both hands, I mean he used to have a tremor, just a slight tremor that wasn't even noticeable, but after his second injection both of his hands had severe tremors. And he could barely walk. I had to out him in a wheelchair once we got to the doctor's office to wheel him up to see the doctor because he could barely walk. He couldn't walk more than like 15 feet without having to sit down and and take a rest.
So he went for the head scans and the brain scans and the blood work, and all of that came back normal. Everything came back normal for a person his age. There was no abnormalaties in the brain, nothing.
And then we saw the neurologist. The neurologist scheduled what was called a DAT scan where they inject nuclear medicine into you and that's a, you know, a good way to tell if a person has Parkinson's or if there's any other kind of brain issues going on.
And absolutely everything came back normal.
ALEC ZECK: Hmmm.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: And the neurologist said, I'll just give you a pill for the memory. Because I had documented everything, because I kept notes on everything with the documentation of things that he couldn't remember, I mean, he, just everything. And so the doctor said, Oh, that's a good gauge to keep and let's see if the memory pills work.
We never got the prescription because we knew it wasn't, we knew it wasn't the memory pills you know. A person doesn't go from having fluid conversations, being well aware of everything that's going on around them, and within a couple of months they can't remember anything, they can't walk, they can't think, they can't have a normal conversation, and then all they do is sleep.
Because it's like, by the time he had the second shot in April, after he had that, within 10 days, he wasn't able to drive anymore. I I'm just, like, I took his keys away. I says, anyplace you need to go, anything you need, I will take you. So I started taking him if he had a doctor's appointment or whatever.
But then after that, he couldn't even— We live in a ranch house and to get to the garage where the cars are, you, there's two steps down to the door, then another step into the garage to get to the car. He couldn't even step down those. I mean, and from the kitchen to the family room it's a one step, like a 9 inch in height step to step into the family room, he couldn't do that unless he was holding onto me to help him step down that one step.
You know, and then all he did was he would sit and he would just watch the TV. He would put on CNN, and I was like, you can't watch that poison, you can't watch the poison, it's poison TV, so then he would put Fox News on, and I'm like, that's just as bad. You know, you can't watch TV, you just can't watch it, you can watch anything else. So then he would watch mind-numbing TV shows that he had watched, you know, repeats after repeats. And it was all new to him because he just, he didn't remember that he saw it yesterday—
ALEC ZECK: Oh.
LAUIRA KACZMARSKI:— with all the different cable stuff, he just he just didn't remember. I I, it was to the point where I had to do everything for him. I mean, it was, it's like, he couldn't carry a cup of coffee because the tremors were so bad in his hands, so I would have to make his coffee a half a cup, because otherwise it would slosh out of his hand while he tried to drink it. His appetite, he he lost his appetite, he would eat just a little bit here and a little bit there.
But he, it got to the point where he just slept. All he did was sleep. You know and he— [starts to cry]
It's, it's, he was sorry that he got the vaccine because it's like, in the end he knew, I mean, at one point at the end of April, beginning of May, he talked to his niece and he told his niece, Oh, I I got the Moderna shot, but I waited until it was available based on your recommendation.
And he always talked on speaker phone because of the feedback he would get from his hearing aids, so I heard every conversation he ever had on any telephone.
And just, Oh, Uncle Danny, I never recommended that, I got the Pfizer shot.
And he was, he was surprised that she denied making the recommendation, as was I. So we just let that go.
And ah, we lived our life, you know, I mean, it's like, he just slept. All he did was sleep.
And as the time progressed, he got worse. You know? His memory got worse, the tremors got worse, he slept more. He would get up, if he'd sleep 18 hours he'd get up, he'd go in the family room nap sit on the coach and he'd nap, you know, for four hours, then get up and go to bed. It's like... [starts to cry]
DR. DEVIN VRANA: Laura?
LAURA KACZMARSKI: It's like, I just lost him. I lost my best friend! He was supposed to be around at least another 20 years. You know? Because we had planned our life together like that. And when I told the doctor, I told the neurologist, I says, he, his symptoms started immediately after the covid vaccine, and he didn't even acknowledge that I said that.
ALEC ZECK: Yeah.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: Didn't acknowledge it. His primary care physician didn't acknowledge it when we were in the office.
And then, at the beginning of August, I knew he wasn't going to be around much more, so he had a defibrillator and I called his cardiologist, and I said, I need to know, when he passes, that the defibrillator's not going to keep going on shocking him. And they no, you don't have to worry, they can turn it off. But they won't turn it off unless I get a doctor's orders. Well, the doctors didn't believe that he was dying.
And so I sent his primary care physician a letter, I had faxed it, and I said, this is his, my husband's status, this is Danny's status, and I listed two pages of everything that was wrong with him. And I says, I said, he's dying. The covid [vaccine] did this to him, I need to know what to do when he dies.
So the doctor immediately called me and he again he didn't acknowledge that I'd said it was the covid shot, and he asked me to bring Danny in, and I said, I can't bring him in, he can't he can't move. This was in August, probably by mid-August. And so he told me what I would need to do when he died. And I says that I'm taking care of him until he dies. And then, and then every week the doctor would call.
And it's like, by the third week when he called, that was like the end of August, he says, now what did you say caused this?
And I said, all of the symptoms started immediately after the vaccine.
And all he would say is, Laura, I'm sorry I can't comment on that. I just, I'm not allowed to comment on it.
So I said, OK. And I just started taking care of him, and then at the very end when I couldn't take care of him, it was getting too hard because he kept falling, he wasn't eating, they, I called the doctor and that same day they sent hospice out to help. And so hospice came. And then he died. He just, you know, he took a deep breath, exhaled, took a second deep breath and never exhaled. And then he was gone. So that happened on September 20th.
Relatedly:
Episode 10 of Health Freedom for Humanity’s newest podcast series, Voices of The Victims.
This episode features Laura Kaczmarski, a recent widow who shares the story of her late husband who received one of the CVD shots.
Nov 24, 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20211128104703/https://healthfreedomforhumanity.org/voices-of-the-victims-episode-9-2/
TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: As of May 2023 the webpage of Health Freedom for Humanity is down, however, I managed to view the video of this podcast via archive.org's Way Back Machine. The hosts are Alec Zeck and Dr. Devin Vrana. https://www.devinvrana.com/
For more about Alec Zeck, a West Point graduate and medical freedom activist, see his interview by Dr. Stanton Hom, episode 076:https://thefuturegen.com/podcast/episode-076-alec-zeck-be-free/
TRANSCRIPT - EXCERPT
ALEC ZECK: So I want to start with, prior to, prior to him receiving the first dose, where you both were at in your life, where was his health level, and what were your perceptions of everything going on in the world?
LAURA KACZMARSKI: We're both retired, my husband and I were both retired, and we would just spend our days together. Last October we rescued a dog and we would walk the dog and just, we would just, we just would sit together and spend time together. I would do a lot of research and stuff on the computer, I spent like a lot of time on the computer, and my husband would watch a lot of TV. And then he always wanted me to sit with him and then you know we would hold hands, you know, he, I'd be sitting in the chair and he'd be sitting on the couch, and there was an end table between us, and we would always hold hands and just talk and have conversations about current events.
And I would go on and on about the vaccine, and how he shouldn't get it because I wasn't going to get it, and you know, to him I'm like, I was a conspiracy person. And he, he believed what the government was telling him. He believed, like, well, not the government but Fauci, what Fauci was saying, what the news channels were saying, that you have to get the vaccine, and the more people that get the vaccine, the better you're going to be, and — [sighs]
We were just in a really good place, just enjoying the retirement, enjoying being together, enjoying the new dog, just, just enjoying life.
He was, he was, he was a, he was sharp, he was, he was just wonderful. And then he decided he would go along and get the vaccine.
And he waited for the Moderna vaccine, based on his niece who works for a doctor at the Cleveland Clinic, based on her recommendation. So he waited. And that vaccine became available in March. He got the first injection on March 26th. And immediately, he started sleeping more, immediately.
And then on April 23rd he got the second injection. But his cognitive abilities immediately changed. Within the first 30 days he was, he was sleeping constantly, I mean, it was like up to 18 hours. And I'm like, Jeez! And then after the second shot, he started sleeping up to 22 hours.
And his cognitive abilities were just plummeting. It's like, he couldn't remember anything that he wanted to say, and he kept asking me, what the words were that he wanted to say. So, because he couldn't even have a conversation, he couldn't complete a sentence without forgetting what he needed to say, what he wanted to say.
And I would get frustrated because, I, it's like, I just didn't understand what was going on. And then he just started sleeping more. And all he would do is sleep.
And he had a problem with his one knee and he thought that he needed a knee replacement surgery. It's like he blew every little ache, every little pain out of proportion, something that he hadn't done in the past. So we got him an appointment with an orthopedist. He went to the orthopedist, and the orthopedist said there's nothing— [Alec Zeck's live image disappears from screen] Are you there?
ALEC ZECK: Yeah. Sorry, keep going.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: OK.
ALEC ZECK: I'm sorry, I don't know why.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: OK, there you are. And so the orthopedist says that it looked more like a neurological problem. And that was in June. So we immediately made an appointment to see his primary care physician.
When his primary care physician saw him, he was literally in a state of shock. Because my husband was, he weighed like 200 pounds in April. And by the time we took him to see his primary care physician, had lost over 40 pounds. So he went from a size 40 and now he was like a size 36. His clothes were falling off him. His face, it's like, it's like he had no life in his face. He wasn't joking. He was always the jokester. He wasn't joking anymore.
So the doctor immediately started scheduling blood work and head scans and brain scans, and and referred him to a neurologist to to rule out Parkinson's. Because he had a tremor in his hand which was, well, both hands, I mean he used to have a tremor, just a slight tremor that wasn't even noticeable, but after his second injection both of his hands had severe tremors. And he could barely walk. I had to out him in a wheelchair once we got to the doctor's office to wheel him up to see the doctor because he could barely walk. He couldn't walk more than like 15 feet without having to sit down and and take a rest.
So he went for the head scans and the brain scans and the blood work, and all of that came back normal. Everything came back normal for a person his age. There was no abnormalaties in the brain, nothing.
And then we saw the neurologist. The neurologist scheduled what was called a DAT scan where they inject nuclear medicine into you and that's a, you know, a good way to tell if a person has Parkinson's or if there's any other kind of brain issues going on.
And absolutely everything came back normal.
ALEC ZECK: Hmmm.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: And the neurologist said, I'll just give you a pill for the memory. Because I had documented everything, because I kept notes on everything with the documentation of things that he couldn't remember, I mean, he, just everything. And so the doctor said, Oh, that's a good gauge to keep and let's see if the memory pills work.
We never got the prescription because we knew it wasn't, we knew it wasn't the memory pills you know. A person doesn't go from having fluid conversations, being well aware of everything that's going on around them, and within a couple of months they can't remember anything, they can't walk, they can't think, they can't have a normal conversation, and then all they do is sleep.
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Because it's like, by the time he had the second shot in April, after he had that, within 10 days, he wasn't able to drive anymore. I I'm just, like, I took his keys away. I says, anyplace you need to go, anything you need, I will take you. So I started taking him if he had a doctor's appointment or whatever.
But then after that, he couldn't even— We live in a ranch house and to get to the garage where the cars are, you, there's two steps down to the door, then another step into the garage to get to the car. He couldn't even step down those. I mean, and from the kitchen to the family room it's a one step, like a 9 inch in height step to step into the family room, he couldn't do that unless he was holding onto me to help him step down that one step.
You know, and then all he did was he would sit and he would just watch the TV. He would put on CNN, and I was like, you can't watch that poison, you can't watch the poison, it's poison TV, so then he would put Fox News on, and I'm like, that's just as bad. You know, you can't watch TV, you just can't watch it, you can watch anything else. So then he would watch mind-numbing TV shows that he had watched, you know, repeats after repeats. And it was all new to him because he just, he didn't remember that he saw it yesterday—
ALEC ZECK: Oh.
LAUIRA KACZMARSKI:— with all the different cable stuff, he just he just didn't remember. I I, it was to the point where I had to do everything for him. I mean, it was, it's like, he couldn't carry a cup of coffee because the tremors were so bad in his hands, so I would have to make his coffee a half a cup, because otherwise it would slosh out of his hand while he tried to drink it. His appetite, he he lost his appetite, he would eat just a little bit here and a little bit there.
But he, it got to the point where he just slept. All he did was sleep. You know and he— [starts to cry]
It's, it's, he was sorry that he got the vaccine because it's like, in the end he knew, I mean, at one point at the end of April, beginning of May, he talked to his niece and he told his niece, Oh, I I got the Moderna shot, but I waited until it was available based on your recommendation.
And he always talked on speaker phone because of the feedback he would get from his hearing aids, so I heard every conversation he ever had on any telephone.
And just, Oh, Uncle Danny, I never recommended that, I got the Pfizer shot.
And he was, he was surprised that she denied making the recommendation, as was I. So we just let that go.
And ah, we lived our life, you know, I mean, it's like, he just slept. All he did was sleep.
And as the time progressed, he got worse. You know? His memory got worse, the tremors got worse, he slept more. He would get up, if he'd sleep 18 hours he'd get up, he'd go in the family room nap sit on the coach and he'd nap, you know, for four hours, then get up and go to bed. It's like... [starts to cry]
DR. DEVIN VRANA: Laura?
LAURA KACZMARSKI: It's like, I just lost him. I lost my best friend! He was supposed to be around at least another 20 years. You know? Because we had planned our life together like that. And when I told the doctor, I told the neurologist, I says, he, his symptoms started immediately after the covid vaccine, and he didn't even acknowledge that I said that.
ALEC ZECK: Yeah.
LAURA KACZMARSKI: Didn't acknowledge it. His primary care physician didn't acknowledge it when we were in the office.
And then, at the beginning of August, I knew he wasn't going to be around much more, so he had a defibrillator and I called his cardiologist, and I said, I need to know, when he passes, that the defibrillator's not going to keep going on shocking him. And they no, you don't have to worry, they can turn it off. But they won't turn it off unless I get a doctor's orders. Well, the doctors didn't believe that he was dying.
And so I sent his primary care physician a letter, I had faxed it, and I said, this is his, my husband's status, this is Danny's status, and I listed two pages of everything that was wrong with him. And I says, I said, he's dying. The covid [vaccine] did this to him, I need to know what to do when he dies.
So the doctor immediately called me and he again he didn't acknowledge that I'd said it was the covid shot, and he asked me to bring Danny in, and I said, I can't bring him in, he can't he can't move. This was in August, probably by mid-August. And so he told me what I would need to do when he died. And I says that I'm taking care of him until he dies. And then, and then every week the doctor would call.
And it's like, by the third week when he called, that was like the end of August, he says, now what did you say caused this?
And I said, all of the symptoms started immediately after the vaccine.
And all he would say is, Laura, I'm sorry I can't comment on that. I just, I'm not allowed to comment on it.
So I said, OK. And I just started taking care of him, and then at the very end when I couldn't take care of him, it was getting too hard because he kept falling, he wasn't eating, they, I called the doctor and that same day they sent hospice out to help. And so hospice came. And then he died. He just, you know, he took a deep breath, exhaled, took a second deep breath and never exhaled. And then he was gone. So that happened on September 20th.
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