I highly doubt it, this is a perception americans in the USA have.
I am sure if the USA government did not have a policy on foreign intervention and have never committed one middle eastern coup nor involved the USA in the affairs of others who did not invite them to do so we would not have such a notion or narrative about musli…
I highly doubt it, this is a perception americans in the USA have.
I am sure if the USA government did not have a policy on foreign intervention and have never committed one middle eastern coup nor involved the USA in the affairs of others who did not invite them to do so we would not have such a notion or narrative about muslims/islam/arabs.
Yes I remember the James Woods incident. It was part of the barrage of info soon after the attacks. With that said James Woods is Hollywood, he is an actor and I have learned since that time I trust nothing Hollywood or Strangers that Tell A Vision.....quickest way to be decieved is to allow this crap to 'ENTER your mind (MENT) and conTAIN it.
there are two worlds to Moslems: dar al Islam, meaning Land of Peace, meaning every country run by Moslems.
then there is dar al Harb, which is Land of War, meaning every country not ruled by Moslems.
Wahab's 'Moslem Reformation' in the early 1720s made Islam much more anti-West and called for Mohammad's murderous approach to spreading Islam.
they'll sit in your living room and raid your refrigerator, because they think they're superior. the radicals think they'll have 72 virgins waiting their childish pleasure in heaven if they die killing you or me.
have you read Gertrude Bell's biography? I have. she was so respected by Arabs she was welcome in every tent and was honored with a nickname indicating she was a man. she gave advice on tribal rivalries to T.E. Lawrence.
have you read about efforts to put a railroad into north Africa in the late 1880s? I have. the Arabs in numerous cases smiled so warmly and said words of such friendliness...only to attack and kill the whites with no warning at the right moment, or leave them to die of exposure with poison food and water. real fun.
you are sadly a typical naive American if you think Islam is benign. how many dippy people know a friendly falafel cook and can't imagine the murderous goals espoused by the Koran?
if over 50% of them say sometimes bombing children is justified, how sure are you that you understand them?
oh-James Woods is brilliant; he's not a mouth-breathing deadhead like so many celebrities.
anyway, your belief that they'd be happy if we hadn't done this or that is wrong, and smacks of leftist nonsense like 'walls don't work,' and 'torture doesn't work' and 'America's the bad guy.'
Moslems aren't good Christians.
thanks for the civil exchange. I've said my two cents worth.
Well I would be more in fear of the parasitic 1% of the 1% than i am any Muslim.
Fact is no entity in the history of mankind has killed more people, destroyed more lives than the USA Government who is bankrolled by the 1 % of the 1%.
After WWII the USA was on good terms with all muslim countries, it certainly was not like it is now.
It was not until the Brits asked the USA help for overthrowing Mohammed Mossadegh the FIRST democratically elected leader in the history of IRAN in 1953 that things became unglued. Up to that point the USA/america was not in the eye of the so called radical middle easteners. Lets not forget the Brutal Shah was installed...and when iranians could no longer tolerate the Shah they rose up, the Shah got the heck out of Iran so the revolutionairies turned their attention to where the coup in 1953 was planned (US Embassy) and took Hostages.
One other thing.
The CIA knew the revolutionaires were gonna take the Embassy so they forewarned their CIA operatives to leave the embassy but not the common everyday Embassy workers who were left to be paraded and abused for 444 days.
Knowing the historyl i simply cannot blame muslims, 72 virgins...etc...etc.... when i know the crimes of the western government in destabilizing the middle east.
By the way most christians I know are absolute hypocrites.
you think the Shah was bad. you think Christians are hypocrites. you think America is the bad guy.
same ol same ol.
the Arab nomads padded their camels back and forth across the surface of the earth, not knowing or able to utilize the oil beneath their feet. it was a mistake to award them credit for it being 'their' land...the west should have told them to pound sand.
their wealth today is a source of major human ruin; they study life through the prism of the Koran and are thus irrational spunbrains; they treat women like animals; they still believe in slavery...
et cetera: your leftist view is jaundiced. there's an added penny for you, now let us continue our lives without more efforts to enlighten the other guy...anyone who credits Islam and condemns Christianity believes nothing in common we can agree on.
What is the largest singular instance of mass murder in the history of mankind and what was the predominant relgion of the group of people who committed this historical factual largest singular instance of mass murder, killing tens of thousands of innocnet men, women and children in a split second?
When you come up with the answer I predict you will then defend the largest singular instance of mass murder in the history of mankind like a good christian.
Of course I think the Shah was bad...what authoritative figures does zero bad?
Do you like people who do bad things to other people? I don't, in fact there is no degree of 'bad' to me that is acceptable...how about you?
You mean christians deceived into participating in "USURY" "WAR" "PHARMAKEIA" are not hypocrites? Could have fooled me!
Did Jesus not turn over the money changers table (USURY) in the temple mount and get killed for it or am i missing something?
Americans? I never said they were bad. My words were the 'USA Government'
America and the USA Government are not one in the same obviously.
America/Americans existed long before the establishment of the USA Political State in 1789.......right?
Besides an american also includes SOUTH americans and CENTRAL americans....or do you think only USA citizens of the political state are americans?
As for what the arabs not being to utilize the oil beneath their feet and that it was a mistake to award...etc...etc...
I feel like I have heard this story before to some degree....and i have!
Sounds like my lineage (creek tribe) that was forced march by US Troops from southern Georgia and northern Florida swampy homelands to the Oklahoma Dust Bowl (800 Miles) only to get snookered off their land so J Paul Getty and Boys could drill the oil beneath the displaced native tribes feet....right?! same thing....no different.....
That type of mindset is adored by the parasitic class....
You agree with their orchestrated versions of history that are in fact lies and more importantly crimes. This perpetuates the lies and allows the crimes to persist.
Islam treats women like slaves?
I do not think you know what a slave is, because if you did you would realize that YOU TOO (as I) are a Debt "Slave"
I do not care what form the slavery takes, slavery is slavery. You act like you are not a slave...I must laugh.........Either you are 100% free or you are not free! There is no 99% free.....
So what % of freedom do you have Peter?....seriously, answer that question for me!
As far as my leftist view you could not be more wrong.
I do not dwell in the left right paradigm at all...something about the immorality of both sides that I just cannot stomach paying any attention to the left/right idiocy for in the end it leads the people of america to the same place it currently resides....in a shit hole ruled by a few, trillions in debt impossibe to pay off, with a warfare machine scattered all over the earth (700+ Foreign Military Bases) and a welfare machine at home destroying centuries of hard work by our deceased bloodlines......
I credited nothing about Islam. I merely gave you some history with respect to the first of what has been many coups pulled off by the USA Government in the middle east and rather than repudiate, rebuke or impugn what i said about 1953, Iran, Mohhamed Mossadegh, 444 Days, the CIA and the Brits, installing the Shah you attack me. Call me leftist, say my view is jaundiced and then say I credit islam????
These types of attacks and conversation says more about you, your lack of knowledge, history and the ability to control your emotions to the point you have to attack me, assume things you cannot back up and make stuff up out of the thin air as evident by " leftist view is jaundiced"
Come on Peter, be kind...talk, discuss, debate, lets have 'intercourse' not discourse....Ha!
I have been reading books for 65 years. I have read ancient history extensively and continue to do so. once again I am dismissed as a nothing by someone who doesn't recognize my inherent intelligence in everything I write.
I tried to say so long to you before. thank you for your input. got it. thanks.
Death Cult?
I highly doubt it, this is a perception americans in the USA have.
I am sure if the USA government did not have a policy on foreign intervention and have never committed one middle eastern coup nor involved the USA in the affairs of others who did not invite them to do so we would not have such a notion or narrative about muslims/islam/arabs.
Yes I remember the James Woods incident. It was part of the barrage of info soon after the attacks. With that said James Woods is Hollywood, he is an actor and I have learned since that time I trust nothing Hollywood or Strangers that Tell A Vision.....quickest way to be decieved is to allow this crap to 'ENTER your mind (MENT) and conTAIN it.
there are two worlds to Moslems: dar al Islam, meaning Land of Peace, meaning every country run by Moslems.
then there is dar al Harb, which is Land of War, meaning every country not ruled by Moslems.
Wahab's 'Moslem Reformation' in the early 1720s made Islam much more anti-West and called for Mohammad's murderous approach to spreading Islam.
they'll sit in your living room and raid your refrigerator, because they think they're superior. the radicals think they'll have 72 virgins waiting their childish pleasure in heaven if they die killing you or me.
have you read Gertrude Bell's biography? I have. she was so respected by Arabs she was welcome in every tent and was honored with a nickname indicating she was a man. she gave advice on tribal rivalries to T.E. Lawrence.
have you read about efforts to put a railroad into north Africa in the late 1880s? I have. the Arabs in numerous cases smiled so warmly and said words of such friendliness...only to attack and kill the whites with no warning at the right moment, or leave them to die of exposure with poison food and water. real fun.
you are sadly a typical naive American if you think Islam is benign. how many dippy people know a friendly falafel cook and can't imagine the murderous goals espoused by the Koran?
if over 50% of them say sometimes bombing children is justified, how sure are you that you understand them?
oh-James Woods is brilliant; he's not a mouth-breathing deadhead like so many celebrities.
anyway, your belief that they'd be happy if we hadn't done this or that is wrong, and smacks of leftist nonsense like 'walls don't work,' and 'torture doesn't work' and 'America's the bad guy.'
Moslems aren't good Christians.
thanks for the civil exchange. I've said my two cents worth.
Well I would be more in fear of the parasitic 1% of the 1% than i am any Muslim.
Fact is no entity in the history of mankind has killed more people, destroyed more lives than the USA Government who is bankrolled by the 1 % of the 1%.
After WWII the USA was on good terms with all muslim countries, it certainly was not like it is now.
It was not until the Brits asked the USA help for overthrowing Mohammed Mossadegh the FIRST democratically elected leader in the history of IRAN in 1953 that things became unglued. Up to that point the USA/america was not in the eye of the so called radical middle easteners. Lets not forget the Brutal Shah was installed...and when iranians could no longer tolerate the Shah they rose up, the Shah got the heck out of Iran so the revolutionairies turned their attention to where the coup in 1953 was planned (US Embassy) and took Hostages.
One other thing.
The CIA knew the revolutionaires were gonna take the Embassy so they forewarned their CIA operatives to leave the embassy but not the common everyday Embassy workers who were left to be paraded and abused for 444 days.
Knowing the historyl i simply cannot blame muslims, 72 virgins...etc...etc.... when i know the crimes of the western government in destabilizing the middle east.
By the way most christians I know are absolute hypocrites.
you think the Shah was bad. you think Christians are hypocrites. you think America is the bad guy.
same ol same ol.
the Arab nomads padded their camels back and forth across the surface of the earth, not knowing or able to utilize the oil beneath their feet. it was a mistake to award them credit for it being 'their' land...the west should have told them to pound sand.
their wealth today is a source of major human ruin; they study life through the prism of the Koran and are thus irrational spunbrains; they treat women like animals; they still believe in slavery...
et cetera: your leftist view is jaundiced. there's an added penny for you, now let us continue our lives without more efforts to enlighten the other guy...anyone who credits Islam and condemns Christianity believes nothing in common we can agree on.
Peter I have one more question for you.
What is the largest singular instance of mass murder in the history of mankind and what was the predominant relgion of the group of people who committed this historical factual largest singular instance of mass murder, killing tens of thousands of innocnet men, women and children in a split second?
When you come up with the answer I predict you will then defend the largest singular instance of mass murder in the history of mankind like a good christian.
You mean the Shah was not bad?
So you support the Shah's 26 year reign Peter?
Of course I think the Shah was bad...what authoritative figures does zero bad?
Do you like people who do bad things to other people? I don't, in fact there is no degree of 'bad' to me that is acceptable...how about you?
You mean christians deceived into participating in "USURY" "WAR" "PHARMAKEIA" are not hypocrites? Could have fooled me!
Did Jesus not turn over the money changers table (USURY) in the temple mount and get killed for it or am i missing something?
Americans? I never said they were bad. My words were the 'USA Government'
America and the USA Government are not one in the same obviously.
America/Americans existed long before the establishment of the USA Political State in 1789.......right?
Besides an american also includes SOUTH americans and CENTRAL americans....or do you think only USA citizens of the political state are americans?
As for what the arabs not being to utilize the oil beneath their feet and that it was a mistake to award...etc...etc...
I feel like I have heard this story before to some degree....and i have!
Sounds like my lineage (creek tribe) that was forced march by US Troops from southern Georgia and northern Florida swampy homelands to the Oklahoma Dust Bowl (800 Miles) only to get snookered off their land so J Paul Getty and Boys could drill the oil beneath the displaced native tribes feet....right?! same thing....no different.....
That type of mindset is adored by the parasitic class....
You agree with their orchestrated versions of history that are in fact lies and more importantly crimes. This perpetuates the lies and allows the crimes to persist.
Islam treats women like slaves?
I do not think you know what a slave is, because if you did you would realize that YOU TOO (as I) are a Debt "Slave"
I do not care what form the slavery takes, slavery is slavery. You act like you are not a slave...I must laugh.........Either you are 100% free or you are not free! There is no 99% free.....
So what % of freedom do you have Peter?....seriously, answer that question for me!
As far as my leftist view you could not be more wrong.
I do not dwell in the left right paradigm at all...something about the immorality of both sides that I just cannot stomach paying any attention to the left/right idiocy for in the end it leads the people of america to the same place it currently resides....in a shit hole ruled by a few, trillions in debt impossibe to pay off, with a warfare machine scattered all over the earth (700+ Foreign Military Bases) and a welfare machine at home destroying centuries of hard work by our deceased bloodlines......
I credited nothing about Islam. I merely gave you some history with respect to the first of what has been many coups pulled off by the USA Government in the middle east and rather than repudiate, rebuke or impugn what i said about 1953, Iran, Mohhamed Mossadegh, 444 Days, the CIA and the Brits, installing the Shah you attack me. Call me leftist, say my view is jaundiced and then say I credit islam????
These types of attacks and conversation says more about you, your lack of knowledge, history and the ability to control your emotions to the point you have to attack me, assume things you cannot back up and make stuff up out of the thin air as evident by " leftist view is jaundiced"
Come on Peter, be kind...talk, discuss, debate, lets have 'intercourse' not discourse....Ha!
I have been reading books for 65 years. I have read ancient history extensively and continue to do so. once again I am dismissed as a nothing by someone who doesn't recognize my inherent intelligence in everything I write.
I tried to say so long to you before. thank you for your input. got it. thanks.