I find a lot of people are defensive about these vaxxes and their decisions to date. What I've done for a few people is take a step further back: I've bought them a viewing of the documentary "Vaxxed" from 2016 (it's around $7). I make it clear it predates C19 and doesn't deal with that topic at all. The film is actually about the MM…
I find a lot of people are defensive about these vaxxes and their decisions to date. What I've done for a few people is take a step further back: I've bought them a viewing of the documentary "Vaxxed" from 2016 (it's around $7). I make it clear it predates C19 and doesn't deal with that topic at all. The film is actually about the MMR vaccines, and what I like about it is that it shows how compromised CDC/FDA are. Once people begin to understand the corruption in these agencies, they're then more inclined to question. I don't push a point of view on C19 at all - I just tell them I found the film fascinating and the ending stunning, express that I hope they at least watch the first 15 minutes and leave it at that. Baby steps...but I've seen less rejection because I'm not touching that 3rd rail of C19 vaxxes.
I’m used to seeing people claiming to be “pro-vax” in order to reach the Pharma-trusting: “approved vaccines good; these experimental gene therapy things, bad” (see America’s Frontline Doctors, Robert Malone, Peter McCullough), as if the third rail is criticizing vaccines at all. This is the opposite. I wonder which approach is more effective?
Those doctors are basically making a clinical argument to the CDC/FDA and also to the broader community, and they're qualified to do so. It makes sense for them to detail both their credentials and their point of view on vaccines in general. In other words, they are literally posing the question of "Given these clinical indications and results, why continue with the vaxxes?" It's a laser focus, as it should be.
In my relationships with those close to me, that question is one I can't ask without alienating them, but I think I don't need to. The question I'm tackling is "Why are you comfortable with the CDC/FDA recommendations and should you be?" Essentially, it's pulling back the lens to focus on the broader picture and hopefully something they might actually care about, which is enough to start with.
As for which is more effective, it depends on the receiver of the information. Whatever approach that allows them to hear you is the best one.
Once, I found myself in a hotel room requiring assistance. The proprietor spoke Arabic. I speak English. So we couldn't communicate. We floundered a bit...he asked me about French. No go. I asked about Spanish. No from him. We settled on Italian, and 10 minutes later, the problem was solved. So in effect I'm saying -- find a "language" the other person can understand and communicate in. It doesn't have to be your first pick or theirs...it just has to be one that works for both of you. And like me and the proprietor, you might have to make a couple of pitches to find the "language" that works.
Excellent idea.. Maybe I can get through to my mom this way. She & the rest of my family all "blindly trust" the CDC, FDA, etc.. If their Dr tells them to do something, they do it. They think I'm nuts for refusing these jabs. They haven't had any bad effects though--yet. They've been lucky. But it's a matter of time. They've always gotten every yearly flu shot, shingle shot, etc..so they've been like sheep led to the slaughter
Ha! So you’re multlingual in closely related languages! That ability probably helps you recognize the “false friend” words that the agencies use like “authorized” by the FDA and “recommended” by the CDC — you know you can’t assume they mean what they seem to mean!
Haha, I don't call myself multi-lingual. I took Spanish in high school. Two other languages I was exposed to in my family. I'm actually pretty good with languages, a quick study. But I lose it quickly too because I need constant exposure to keep it up. On that trip, I spoke no Arabic to begin with...by the end of the trip, I had a rudimentary grasp, and now I can't remember anything. Over the years, it's been the same with German, French, Dutch, Hebrew...a few others. I put it down to my brain organizing patterns. Spanish and Italian I use more often so my retention is better. It's sort of like looking at an out of focus picture. Initially, it's just a blur but the more I look, the clearer it gets...and a faster focus for languages I'm exposed to more often.
There's always time to soft touch her with it. For instance, use her birthday, yours, father's or mother's day, an anniversary...anything. Write something like "On this special day, I am hoping you'll honor <the relationship> with 15 minutes of your time. I/we watched this and it spoke to us (it's not about C19)..." Or if she's the SJW/woke racial justice type, you could note that you were stunned by the impact on of color children, particularly boys (because they suffer the major harm from the MMR) and thought she might appreciate the film. In any case, I find less is more. Whether it's this film or some other thing you pick, just pick one. When you try to overload the entrenched, they'll shut down and tune you out. The goal is to find one thread on the edge of this entire tapestry that you can pull on, and just give that a gentle tug. And in a few weeks, another gentle tug...eventually it will all unravel.
I find a lot of people are defensive about these vaxxes and their decisions to date. What I've done for a few people is take a step further back: I've bought them a viewing of the documentary "Vaxxed" from 2016 (it's around $7). I make it clear it predates C19 and doesn't deal with that topic at all. The film is actually about the MMR vaccines, and what I like about it is that it shows how compromised CDC/FDA are. Once people begin to understand the corruption in these agencies, they're then more inclined to question. I don't push a point of view on C19 at all - I just tell them I found the film fascinating and the ending stunning, express that I hope they at least watch the first 15 minutes and leave it at that. Baby steps...but I've seen less rejection because I'm not touching that 3rd rail of C19 vaxxes.
I’m used to seeing people claiming to be “pro-vax” in order to reach the Pharma-trusting: “approved vaccines good; these experimental gene therapy things, bad” (see America’s Frontline Doctors, Robert Malone, Peter McCullough), as if the third rail is criticizing vaccines at all. This is the opposite. I wonder which approach is more effective?
Those doctors are basically making a clinical argument to the CDC/FDA and also to the broader community, and they're qualified to do so. It makes sense for them to detail both their credentials and their point of view on vaccines in general. In other words, they are literally posing the question of "Given these clinical indications and results, why continue with the vaxxes?" It's a laser focus, as it should be.
In my relationships with those close to me, that question is one I can't ask without alienating them, but I think I don't need to. The question I'm tackling is "Why are you comfortable with the CDC/FDA recommendations and should you be?" Essentially, it's pulling back the lens to focus on the broader picture and hopefully something they might actually care about, which is enough to start with.
As for which is more effective, it depends on the receiver of the information. Whatever approach that allows them to hear you is the best one.
Once, I found myself in a hotel room requiring assistance. The proprietor spoke Arabic. I speak English. So we couldn't communicate. We floundered a bit...he asked me about French. No go. I asked about Spanish. No from him. We settled on Italian, and 10 minutes later, the problem was solved. So in effect I'm saying -- find a "language" the other person can understand and communicate in. It doesn't have to be your first pick or theirs...it just has to be one that works for both of you. And like me and the proprietor, you might have to make a couple of pitches to find the "language" that works.
Very cool. Love the hotel anecdote. And the strategy. Peace.
I love this old clip on 60 minutes of the swine flu mess
https://rumble.com/vi77l9-60-minutes-swine-flu-1976-govt-vaccines-and-consequences.html
Excellent idea.. Maybe I can get through to my mom this way. She & the rest of my family all "blindly trust" the CDC, FDA, etc.. If their Dr tells them to do something, they do it. They think I'm nuts for refusing these jabs. They haven't had any bad effects though--yet. They've been lucky. But it's a matter of time. They've always gotten every yearly flu shot, shingle shot, etc..so they've been like sheep led to the slaughter
Ha! So you’re multlingual in closely related languages! That ability probably helps you recognize the “false friend” words that the agencies use like “authorized” by the FDA and “recommended” by the CDC — you know you can’t assume they mean what they seem to mean!
Haha, I don't call myself multi-lingual. I took Spanish in high school. Two other languages I was exposed to in my family. I'm actually pretty good with languages, a quick study. But I lose it quickly too because I need constant exposure to keep it up. On that trip, I spoke no Arabic to begin with...by the end of the trip, I had a rudimentary grasp, and now I can't remember anything. Over the years, it's been the same with German, French, Dutch, Hebrew...a few others. I put it down to my brain organizing patterns. Spanish and Italian I use more often so my retention is better. It's sort of like looking at an out of focus picture. Initially, it's just a blur but the more I look, the clearer it gets...and a faster focus for languages I'm exposed to more often.
What's best is for each expert to tell the truth as they see it at the time
I wish I had your tact. I wish I could get you in same room with my daughter
There's always time to soft touch her with it. For instance, use her birthday, yours, father's or mother's day, an anniversary...anything. Write something like "On this special day, I am hoping you'll honor <the relationship> with 15 minutes of your time. I/we watched this and it spoke to us (it's not about C19)..." Or if she's the SJW/woke racial justice type, you could note that you were stunned by the impact on of color children, particularly boys (because they suffer the major harm from the MMR) and thought she might appreciate the film. In any case, I find less is more. Whether it's this film or some other thing you pick, just pick one. When you try to overload the entrenched, they'll shut down and tune you out. The goal is to find one thread on the edge of this entire tapestry that you can pull on, and just give that a gentle tug. And in a few weeks, another gentle tug...eventually it will all unravel.
Thank you... I'll copy this. I'm somewhat impaired, but will study yours
Journalists still can write about this. They just won't work for msm.