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Steve, the evidence has been there for a long time. “To those who refuse to accept, no amount of evidence will suffice.”

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true. I'm just trying to make it painfully obvious. the IFR data is new, so it was the missing link.

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I appreciate your persistence. I have less tolerance than you. In many cases, it's like you find the ship is burning, you knock on people's cabin doors telling them the ship is burning and they slam the door in your face. It's the 80/20 rule. Most either don't want to know or are so ignorant of the facts staring them in the face, that they can't budge from their position.

I ask people the question and their response tells me where they are coming from. I have changed some minds for those who are somewhat open-minded. Those who are totally closed off; well a bomb could drop and they would still accuse you of spreading misinformation.

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I hear you. I finally gave up. I was tired of being yelled at and/or laughed at. There’s a quote from the author of the book The Crowd: A study of the Popular Mind, that I feel sums up what we were dealing with. "The masses have never thirsted after the truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -- Gustave Le Bon

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