6 Comments
⭠ Return to thread

Of course, the shingles argument is nonsense. You can argue that the risk of the illness does not warrant a vaccination risk, but the presenter in the video has no idea what chickenpox and shingles are.

Once infected with chickenpox, you will never lose the virus. It hides in our brain. And just like cold sores it can pop up back. Shingles is an outbreak of the virus you contracted at childhood.

This is important, as the chickenpox vaccine isn't actually preventing chickenpox, but giving it to you. It is giving you a weaker strain, that will stay with you, but is too weak to give you the rash or shingles. So in essence it is just a convenient way of giving you chickenpox, just like you used to have chickenpox/measles parties. So if later natural chickenpox comes around, you've already had it, That is all.

Back to the core of the issue: if my kids are vaccinated, I will have a larger chance of getting shingles as I won't get primed by my kids getting chickenpox. But my kids will not get shingles, as they will never got real chickenpox.

So what he is basically saying, is we should not vaccinate kids, as that will cause more shingles in their parents. Yeah, no thanks. The choice to vaccinate children should be based on whether it is good for the children. If you believe not, don't have your kids take the shot. But in reverse if you as a parent believe it is safe, whether the parents generation will get more shingles should not matter. It is immoral to make vaccination decisions on children on anything else than whether it is good for the children itself.

Expand full comment

Ps- I think parents vaccinate largely due to the fear of losing a child which would cause the parents imaginable suffering. I don’t think the underlying psychology is about the child otherwise they would think long-term- will my child be healthy and happy as an adult? After I am dead will they be enjoying vitality or suffering from chronic disease ?

Expand full comment

This is not true. My friend recently got the worst case of shingles and was hospitalized FIVE days in excruciating pain. She had the varicella vaccine and never had chickenpox. The doctor told her mom she wouldn’t get shingles. Meanwhile I had a more relaxed mom who let me get natural chickenpox. I have never had shingles. My friend got this horrible case of INTERNAL SHINGLES within one year of the Covid shot so I do feel it was related. But still, internal shingles requiring vaccination in an otherwise healthy 30 year old woman. Wild chickenpox was not a serious disease. I CAN REMEMBER IT!

Expand full comment

She then did not get shingles but regular varicella? The vaccine does not always work, and some people - like your friend - get chickenpox anyway.

Expand full comment

Can you not read?? She got shingles INTERNALLY and was hospitalized for 5 days while they figured out what it was… Internal shingles??? The chickenpox vaccine is a pointless fraud and other countries are right for not recommending it

Expand full comment

Once a virus is blamed, there is no need (or danger) anymore to look for poison in the food, water, or air. Instead of prohibiting then that big corporations keep using these poisons it opens a new vaccine, drug and treatment market.

No health ministry or health government institute has ever scientifically proven a virus to exist, there are no control experiments.

It's just a fear tactic, that has worked so well. The controlled opposition is also trying to keep it up with their spike proteins and lab leak, getting angry at people that just want to know how an image generated with electron microscopy can be related to a genome assembled by a software, and then without being able to watch in vivo, is related to all kinds of things in the body. And don't mention Graphene Oxide... The controlled opposition goes nuts. If it's so obvious that there is none in the covid shots (and now in all other childhood vaccines, too), then let's look at all the evidence. Graphene Oxide is visible under a normal microscope. Everybody who has access to one, can check.

Expand full comment