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Thank God for your tenacity, compassion, and brilliant mind. It seems the majority of the medical industry are disconnected from their hearts. They only have their feeble minds to rely on for their sense of humanity.

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Steve. Have you been formally trained in critical appraisal of the medical literature? I didnt think so. Would you hire someone into your company with no training, credentials or experience in IT? Arrogance is thinking that because you are smart at what you do, it carries over to areas where you dont have the education. I just posted a critical appraisal of fluvoxamine current as of today 4/13/22. Did you pick up on the methodological confounders indentifed in the critical appraisal? Of course not. You missed that. And that is the point. There is a reason why it takes 4 years of medical school, three years of internal medicine residency and 2-3 years of infectious disease fellowship training to be an ID doc. You don't have the skill set to critically appraise medical literature and it shows.

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you're a jerk patmas...

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If you dont know what UPTODATE is, you shouldn't be practicing medicine. From UPTODATE current as of today. "Fluvoxamine – Data suggest that the antidepressant fluvoxamine may reduce progression to severe disease in early, mild COVID-19, although trials indicating benefit are hampered by methodologic issues, reducing certainty about any effect. Although potentially promising, additional data are needed to inform the utility of fluvoxamine before recommending its widespread use outside of a clinical trial. In a randomized trial from Brazil that included 1497 outpatients who had COVID-19 onset or SARS-CoV-2 diagnosis within the past seven days (about 44 percent within the past three days) and had at least one risk factor for severe disease, fluvoxamine (100 mg twice daily for 10 days) reduced the 28-day rate of hospitalization compared with placebo (11 versus 16 percent, RR 0.68, 95% CI 0.52-0.88); however, the definition of hospitalization included stay in an emergency setting for at least six hours, and most of the reduction in hospitalization reflected a reduction in such emergency visits [127]. A mortality reduction was not identified among the entire trial population. Although a mortality reduction was observed among those who reported at least 80 percent adherence to the study medication (<1 versus 2 percent with placebo, RR 0.09, 0.01-0.47), the validity of this finding is uncertain because more individuals in the fluvoxamine than placebo group were nonadherent, and the resulting mortality rate among those who were nonadherent was disproportionately high compared with the overall rate, suggesting potential confounders. A prior smaller trial had suggested that fluvoxamine (100 mg orally twice daily for two days, then three times daily for a total of 15 days of treatment) reduced clinical (respiratory) deterioration compared with placebo (0 versus 8.3 percent; adjusted RR 8.7, 95% CI 1.8-16.4) but was limited by loss to follow-up and short study duration [128]. Observational data has also suggested that fluvoxamine is associated with lower hospitalization rates than observation alone [129)"

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Steve:

I recently came across an interview of Dr. Bryan Ardis at the following link.

https://rumble.com/v10md2r-world-premiere-watch-the-water.html

Does this have validity in your opinion?

Thank you.

Jim

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Placing some spam-swatting comments up here at the top in case nobody sees them if they are in a reply chain to the spam postings themselves.

First of all: If we interrupt the flow of the actual conversation too much due to spam, then the spam has won.

But if you're in a spam-swatting state of mind as I was today:

At least two things could be done:

-The substack admins could check the activity of the alleged humans who are posting these things, but are, no doubt bots. Bots with names like cokot and "Arika peter". If I am mistaken, cokot and Arika peter and the rest of you, so sorry. But even if you are humans, I'm 99% sure you are violating substack rules by advertising in substack comments. The substack admins could check whether *all* these "users" ever do is post these same canned spam "comments" and, if so, revoke their subscription to the substacks that receive nuthin' but their advertising/malware/spyware/etc. comments.

-To solicit us to go to a web site, they probably have web sites that are real, to a degree. I have checked the "domains" and they are real, and registered as domains that could have websites. They have registered for some of these sites with Godaddy and others of these sites with namecheap. The abuse-reporting site for namecheap is

https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9196/5/how-and-where-can-i-file-abuse-complaints/

or it at least spells out abuse-reporting procedures.

Similar for Godaddy:

https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/abusereport

See the comments under some of today's spam as to which web sites I've mapped to which of the two ISP's (Internet Service Providers).

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Apr 10, 2022·edited Apr 10, 2022

According to one of the site-scanning tools I used (and I've just had time to scan one of these sites so far), the results with homzjob.com include:

Forcepoint ThreatSeeker phishing and other frauds

Comodo Valkyrie Verdict media sharing

I don't know if these findings of known malware matches on the sites being pushed by spam messages to substacks qualifies them as not only obnoxious but illegal: But I think yes and yes.

Edited to add: 8 malware-detection vendors have flagged hmjobz.com for being unsafe/actively threatening: Summary:

Forcepoint ThreatSeeker newly registered websites

Sophos spyware and malware

Comodo Valkyrie Verdict media sharing

Webroot Phishing and Other Frauds

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Keep going Steve and ignore the trolls.

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Damn the trolls, full speed ahead :)

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I'm kidding (or am I?)....homzjob and all those tempting (not) web sites traced back to a project by the Surgeon General of the US to gather names of vax misinfo purveyors. Our Surgeon General and his puppet-masters acted like they had a hard time learning who all the misinfo crowd are, in the US, so had asked for help from the social media companies (That part is true....They wanted, if not names, Email addresses, etc., at least some stats on how many of these radical souls there are? An increasing number? Decreasing? Small enough to fit on a freight train to Auschwitz?)

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Did you mean to put this under the Homzjob post above? Might be better to move both of your posts there so that they can inform on the right post. :) Thanks.

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Not sure who you are asking, but I posted some troll-fighting info under the troll posting. More properly, it is also a bot posting. It is an unsolicited ad and possibly a lure to a site that could launch malware. I was kidding (or am I) that the site is a way to find out who are all these vax-mandate-opposers (like me, and probably you). The U.S. Govt. claims to think it's an undefined amorphous mass of people that could threaten public health, so I'm joking (a bit) that the U.S. govt. would resort to spamming substacks to get each of us to go their web sites and reveal our IP address (if we are not using a VPN).

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P.S. There have been a series of 10 web sites set up on that IP (the one which currently has homzjob) since April 5.

Two of the 3 bogus fly-by-night web sites that spam Steve's substack among probably other things they try to do, are hosted by the provider that has this address for complaints:

abuse@namecheaphosting.com

I don't even know whether to distrust namecheaphosting overall, so I wouldn't even Email there myself from a "good" Email addr but might from one of my thowaway Email addresses, to complain.

Phone numbers allegedly for namecheaphosting:

+1-323-375-2822, +1-661-310-2107

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Bottom line is that 98% of 'certified doctors' are sufficiently ignorant not to be any more insightful than a well-educated, highly motivated PhD in another scientific discipline. The way pharma works is to 'target Key Opinion Leaders' who then herd the MD sheep into line the way big pharma wants them to. That's right, 98% of MDs are sheep who do what some big cheese tells them to.

Medicine is a very, very hierarchical, very autocratic, very risk-averse culture. It attracts a higher number of psychopaths than almost any other profession.

Not what most people would want to believe, but it's real world data from the world of psychology.

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Why do I find this amusing? Sometimes l wonder about my sanity.

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Priceless. Michael Patmas, what an a$$.

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Don’t worry about it Steve, he’s just way too arrogant.

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Apr 7, 2022·edited Apr 7, 2022

After reading his exchanges, I'm convinced he's nothing more than a big pharma trained monkey, and an arrogant bully, too.

Furthermore, his patent response for not debating is laughable.

Let's hope he's boostered up. Karma is a bitch.

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That's why I say we have no hope for change except by force. This country has been taken over by corrupt politicians for over 45 years. Everyone one that in government from the past 45 years has baggage. They all need to be put on trial and investigated.i do home work ..... https://www.worksful.com

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Sorry, but this is so pathetic on the part of the doctor, it's embarrassing to read. If he believes Steve is not qualified to be listened to because he is not a doctor, let alone an infectious disease specialist, then all the more reason to debate him.

The medical profession has taken an awful hit these last two years and we deserve it, says the medical doctor writing this comment.

Dr. Patmas is committing the cardinal sin of "Arguing From Authority". Never let yourself do that my friends. Always let the strength of your reasoning win arguments, not your position. I make it a habit to listen to the ideas of everyone, even the CNN and MSNBC hosts. It hones my reasonng abilities as I slice their claims to pieces. I also listen to the janitor, the garbage man, prostitutes I take care of for free in Phnom Penh, everyone. They all deserve a listen and there are plenty of things they know more about, than this MIT physics grad.

Which brings me to a point I want to make about why Dr. Patmas is so profoundly wrong in his attitude toward Steve. As someone who understands the medical side and the side at which Steve excells I can assure you that most of the errors that have been made during the last two years, have been errors of statistical logic, where I am certain Steve is more adept than 99% of medical doctors. Sure, he doesn't know every bit of knowledge necessary to understand the medical side of things that have taken place the last two years but why should he? He is an entrepreneur and an outstanding one. And I'll tell you something else. Dr. Patmas doesn't understand the medical side either. It's clear from his comments.

You would be aghast to learn the doctors who clearly do not understand the medical science behind the pandemic. Joining Dr. Patmas are Dr. Birx, D. Fauci, Dr. Leana Wen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Dr. Jha, Dr. Peter Hotez, Dr. Jonathan Reiner, Dr. Francis Collins, Dr. Redfield (the CDC Director before Dr. Wallensky who said in testimony that masks protect him more than a vaccine (this was before we found out that these vaccines are almost worthless), and ALL of the CNN TV doct ors. They've been wrong on alomost every call.

A doctor on Youtube who I saw declare that the vaccine gets transmitted not by aerosols (as it does) but by coughing, sneezing and contact of infected surfaces. His video has 6.7 million views. I kid you not. You think maybe Youtube promotes this far Lefty who knows virtually nothing while Part 2 of my discussion with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration) where I recap my proof that the virus came from a lab in addition to covering everything about the virus and vaccines from the very start of the pandemic has gotten 385 views in a month?

Up has been down and down, up. We're in for a fight, people. Stay tough.

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Thank you; well written. But I believe that some or most of the Dr.'s on the media repeating their 'expert' opinions are not just lacking in their understanding of the data. I think many of them manipulate the RCT design, manipulate the reporting of results, and omit what doesn't fit with the "messaging." For evidence of that as a syndrome of its own, the RFK Jr. Fauci book lists many public presentations of clinical trial and public health numbers as reported by these people, which contrast hilariously (if it weren't so pathetic) with the undistorted data. And it is presumed these people knew the undistorted data and chose what to say and not say about it.

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I'm sure you're right to a great degree but they're lacking in knowledge too. To think they are that evil is almost too much to bear.

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I agree with you on most points....but listening to a prostitute? All they want is your money and consistently spout identical mantras, be they women you seek out at night- discreetly, lawyers, bankers, financial advisors, real estate agents.......

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I think you misunderstood me, Charles. When I'm treating these girls, they tell me about what their lives have been like- something I really didn't know existed to such an extreme extent, until I came here. Some of these families are so poor, there most valuable asset is their beautiful teenaged daughter and they sell her for as little as $300 to traffickers who routinely scour the countryside and tributaries of the Mekong river, looking for their next victim. I knew trafficking existed but I had no idea to what extent. And I never would have imagined that a parent would sell their child for money, just so they could eat. These girls are not what you find on the streets of NYC. They are innocent victims at first. Sure, they develop addictions to drugs and gambling over time and many become thieves and liars. They have taught me many things about the world we live in. That is what I meant.

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I understand what you are saying. my flippancy is my undoing. This is something well beyond my limited experience and l have little understanding of how a woman can sell her child. We are mostly insulated in the western cultures from this kind of degradation and find it difficult to fathom. I stand by my earlier assertions, you are a good man.

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Whoa, I just tried to find the video you referenced, and this came up. You're extremely accomplished!

https://www.technologyreview.com/2008/06/23/269431/the-doctor-of-second-chances/

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Thanks, Laura! I stopped playing on tour a couple of years ago. I was a mediocre pro golfer- 2 wins in 15 years. The Golf Channel did features on me twice. I made a little movie about my final tournament. I want to put in one more thing and it'll be ready for release. It's not really about me or golf. It's about the people I met along the way. I called it "Every Blade of Grass". Isn't that a good title for a golf movie? I'm re-writing my book, "Striking it Rich: Golf in the Kingdom With Generals, Patients, and Pros" too. I'll make an announcement when these things are done so people can see and read them. (In a month or so, it will all be done).

There is a place on You tube where all of my videos are listed (the ones they haven't taken down) It's here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ZvsI0WgtwpuKHF5JAnT-w/videos If you're an artist, you'll like the series "A Yen for Detail- The Critical Eye". I show some drawings, my first portrait, how I reconstructed the faces of two women burned very badly, and my proof of why Leonardo DaVinci could not have painted the Salvator Mundi.

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While not a golfer myself, I live in AZ, and know golf is a big deal. I would be interested in seeing "Every Blade of Grass" - that sounds fascinating.

I was referring to all of your accomplishments, but especially impressed with your helping/treating burn victims, and the lovely Cambodian people.

Art, too? I feel like a slacker, lol. Actually, your list of accomplishments is very motivating.

As an aside, I was in Medical Sales forever (Home IV's) and ended up owning a Specialty Pharmacy. We served the Bleeding Disorders Community. Have you ever seen the Documentary "Bad Blood, A Cautionary Tale?" It's worth a watch.

I've subscribed to your YT channel and your Substack as well. Looking forward to seeing more of your work.

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Thank you so much, Laura. Please play the videos all the way through even if you don't have the time to watch every minute (although I hope you do). I'm close to getting enough viewer time to be able to monitize on Yt. I've made it in all other categories . I just need a little bit more total viewing time.

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Golf? You are l feel maladjusted, but as for the rest of it, you can be forgiven. It pains me to admit it but you are a good man. l watched this talk. People forget that painting at that time was a profession and not the pretentious exhibitionism it has become. One studied under the master mixing paints and sweeping the studio floor. Eventually given some brushes, one filled in areas of commissions, and the great man painted the details. If you were any good, you painted your "master work" and used it to gain entry into the guild. Many painters did not bother to do this but went on the road as 'journeymen' specialising in trees, birds, whatever. Paintings were generally a pastiche of several hands. Does this diminish them as works of art? The salesrooms would say definitely not. It's on the viewer to decide-is this painting pleasing to me? l have been chastised in the past by a lecturer for my harsh criticism of 'modern art', but remain unrepentant. As in all fields of human endeavour, there are many variables in ability. Jackson Pollock against Gainsborough. l am to have my eyes operated upon in 2 weeks time. I would prefer the likes of Caravaggio to perform the task than Van Gogh!

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Apr 7, 2022·edited Apr 8, 2022

VERY well said! 👏 I will try to find the video you referenced (your discussion with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya) Would love to see it. Thank you!

*or could you kindly attach a link to it?

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Here you go, Laura. There's a Part 1 also. Here's part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8euoQCVYBk&t=275s Here's Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-ROTLKos8&t=2751s It might be best to watch Part 1 first. Jay and I are going to do Part 3 this Sunday, US time. It'll be posted early next week because I don't do any editing on the interviews. I want them to be freewheeling debates. We are generally in very close agreements but I suspect we will disagree on some things in Part 3. It's going to be about herd immuunity (which most people don't understand, including the "experts" and vaccines. It's going to be good. Thay are very long. Parts 1 and 2 are over 6 hours total. We cover everything. We aren't even half way there. We've become good friends and are enjoying the give and take very much.

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Are you on Telegram? I'm going to share your videos where I can there (some channels prohibit) and I've shared with The Vigilant Fox, who has close to 50k followers, as I'm a moderator for his channel. Let's get this more views!!

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Thank you for posting the links. I very much look forward to watching all 3, in order. Given the length, it's great that 3 will be posted next week. Gives me time to watch 1 & 2. Appreciate the additional information, too! And, eternally grateful to all the heros who are speaking out and educating us, at the same time.

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Thanks, Laura. They're long and require looking at as there are slides all the way through.

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Apr 7, 2022·edited Apr 7, 2022

lol "i don't have time to debate your doctors", yet can write substack articles "debunking" claims made by steve, while also taking the time to read his articles. Looks like you got some time on your hands doctor.

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Apr 7, 2022·edited Apr 7, 2022

That's the kind of argument that the Catholic church was using in the dark ages why people weren't allowed to read the Scriptures themselves.

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As an addendum, the proles couldn't read so giving them the scriptures to study would have been a waste of time. Even church music was written to intimidate the surfs, we appear to be regressing in so many ways.

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The ducking stool was a foolproof method of discerning guilt. Oh my how we stood at the river bank praying to the Lord that the old witch would surface thus proving her guilt. The burning at the stake was a marvellous way to roast marshmallows and have a good time!

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When he said he was too busy treating unvaccinated in the hospital I knew he was corrupt. I think we’re still incredulous that doctors such as Fauci, this knucklehead and many others lie because depend on pharma for survival.

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Apr 7, 2022Liked by Steve Kirsch

Recently, I meet with a friend of many years. He happens to be a Judge. We first met when he was a law student at university. I have an interest in law, but I’m not legally trained. So, we sometimes chat about the legal system. During this particular conversation the topic was juries. Basically, I was interested in how an individual from the general community was able to comprehend complex cases. Turns out it’s the job of a lawyer to turn complex into something simple and factual. I asked how many times he believed juries he’d provided over got it wrong in his fifteen years on the bench. After reflection he concluded, probably once. A member of a jury’s only credentials are rationale and logic. Patmas is wrong. A reasonable person, armed with ALL the facts, can make a proper and accurate determination.

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