Oh for godsakes stop being so myopic, I have long covid, was never vaxed. We who are in this boat are really fuckin tired of this argument. Join a long covid group on Reddit or Facebook and you can find out for yourself what the ratio of vaxed vs unvaxed is. Broaden you perspective aka bias.
We donтАЩt know what we donтАЩt know. TPTB have actively avoided & prevented both research & publication of research and study of this; furthermore we donтАЩt know if & who has been unknowingly been transfected with the jab by a random passersby.
We also donтАЩt know what infrequent long complications there are from one of the variants.
Well, KE, that's not correct -- it's wrong to claim that what is called long Covid is actually long vaxx. Steve may have it right when he says early treatment is the most effective way to prevent long Covid symptoms. But it's wrong to say long Covid doesn't exist, can always be prevented, or is always caused by the shots. I know that with 100% confidence.
I had long Covid. I am unjabbed. I have no co-morbidities. I am both healthy and fit. I eat well. I run and I exercise. I am not overweight. I don't need or take any prescription medicines (except for hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin). I began taking both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine prophylactically (and vitamin C, zinc, and other things) beginning in 2020. I didn't mask (except when completely unavoidable), avoid the sun, avoid exercise, or submit to any of the other crazy directives corruptly pushed by government "health authorities." I avoided Covid for 2 years. I got my first case early in 2022. It was mild. I already was taking ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and immediately (i.e., day 1) increased the dosages as recommended by AFLDS and FLCCC and did all the other early treatment things they recommended. My Covid symptoms were mild. However, after the acute infection had resolved I was left with progressively worsening long Covid symptoms that were both severe and debilitating (including head pounding, various upper respiratory symptoms, constant coughing, severe tinnitus). I tried all the FLCCC ideas. The only thing that worked was low dose naltrexone. It completely eliminated the symptoms. I took LDN for 18 months before I finally was able to stop LDN without the symptoms returning.
The point is that long Covid is real. Those who say it doesn't exist are clearly wrong. I do suspect long vaxx is more often than not the cause of long Covid symptoms, but obviously not always. I do believe early treatment is more often than not beneficial -- but it didn't work for me.
FWIW, I don't believe a self-spreading Covid virus is the reason people get sick with "Covid," and I'm confident it didn't start in Wuhan in 2019. I believe it's more likely we've been poisoned. Like lots of things, I suspect different people react differently to whatever we've been poisoned with. Many were poisoned with the shots. I wasn't.
I'm convinced Steve is fundamentally wrong about using SSRIs for Covid treatment (though before I educated myself about fluvoxamine it was among the things I tried for treating acute Covid). Covid is simply too insignificant and the well-known adverse effects of SSRIs are too dangerous to ever warrant using those toxic drugs to treat Covid. Steve may or may not be right about whether SSRIs can treat Covid, but he has failed to consider the adverse effects of SSRIs (or the fraudulent FDA approval process that allowed the very dangerous SSRIs on the market). Subjecting oneself to the well known SSRI risks is simply too high a price to pay for Covid treatment, especially given the existence of so many other safe and effective Covid treatments.
I agree that in some cases like yours, long тАШcovidтАЩ is fair dinkum, and congratulate you on searching for answers.
I had EBV in 1977 and over the years had fatigue and brain fog to varying degrees. I was able to manage and in those days with absolutely no help from conventional medicine. Over the past 20 yrs, IтАЩve got on top of it slowly and with all the info around now, IтАЩm feeling better than ever ( also retired so less stress)!
I took Ivermectin when I got a bit sick in late 2022 and was better in 2 days but found a bit more fatigue afterwards ЁЯе▓! Most recently, IтАЩm trying nicotine(2mg gum/day) and am finding increased energy. - see how that goes in the longer term.
Thank you for sharing your experience - mine is quite similar. Still dealing with a nagging cough and pretty serious case of discouragement. Just so hard to believe how many people still donтАЩt get it. I think thatтАЩs the hardest part.
Don't get discouraged! I'm convinced there are answers most of the time. I went pretty far down the FLCCC and other lists before I solved the problem. If you haven't tried LDN yet, you may want to. It worked like a miracle for me. But finding the right dose is tricky and there wasn't much help online. If you haven't tried LDN but intend to, I may be able to provide some details that'll save you time and trouble. Separately, while ivermectin didn't work for me, I have two friends who in recent days got excellent results from it. Both had been unable to get past what we think were "long vaxx" symptoms they had been dealing with for many months with "help" from the traditional medical system. Using ivermectin, one got results last week in about 24 hours and the other one after two days. I've seen Dr. Kory talk about those who are ivermectin responders and those who are not. I wasn't, but those two friends definitely were. The dose they used successfully was 0.6 mg/kg. If you haven't tried ivermectin, then you may want to give it a try.
Thank you, I may look into that. I tend to avoid all things Pharma related so I went the Dr.Zelenko route of Whole Food Vit C, Vit D1/K2, Zinc, and Quercitin. In addition I take a Curcumin Supplement most days as well as a Fruiting Body Multi-Mushroon supplement. IтАЩm not super consistent about it though, and I know with our levels of exposure to all things toxic, you really do have to be. I appreciate the advice thoughтАжas well as the experiences - I tend to trust that more than most everything else.тЬМЁЯП╝
We seem to think similarly. And you may be like the two friends I mentioned. Their "long" symptoms were persistent cough, tiredness, and lack of energy. Not life threatening, but not fun and kind of miserable.
I agree. ThatтАЩs one of the silver linings of this whole disaster - realizing there really are lots of us who think similarly, and I guess we might never have realized that without having all gone through this together. Yay.ЁЯШЕ
Those are post VAX issues!! Menstrual problems?!?! WHO TF ever heard of menstrual changes from a virus?! Total LIES!!!
Oh for godsakes stop being so myopic, I have long covid, was never vaxed. We who are in this boat are really fuckin tired of this argument. Join a long covid group on Reddit or Facebook and you can find out for yourself what the ratio of vaxed vs unvaxed is. Broaden you perspective aka bias.
We donтАЩt know what we donтАЩt know. TPTB have actively avoided & prevented both research & publication of research and study of this; furthermore we donтАЩt know if & who has been unknowingly been transfected with the jab by a random passersby.
We also donтАЩt know what infrequent long complications there are from one of the variants.
Best not to be dogmatic.
Well, KE, that's not correct -- it's wrong to claim that what is called long Covid is actually long vaxx. Steve may have it right when he says early treatment is the most effective way to prevent long Covid symptoms. But it's wrong to say long Covid doesn't exist, can always be prevented, or is always caused by the shots. I know that with 100% confidence.
I had long Covid. I am unjabbed. I have no co-morbidities. I am both healthy and fit. I eat well. I run and I exercise. I am not overweight. I don't need or take any prescription medicines (except for hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin). I began taking both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine prophylactically (and vitamin C, zinc, and other things) beginning in 2020. I didn't mask (except when completely unavoidable), avoid the sun, avoid exercise, or submit to any of the other crazy directives corruptly pushed by government "health authorities." I avoided Covid for 2 years. I got my first case early in 2022. It was mild. I already was taking ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and immediately (i.e., day 1) increased the dosages as recommended by AFLDS and FLCCC and did all the other early treatment things they recommended. My Covid symptoms were mild. However, after the acute infection had resolved I was left with progressively worsening long Covid symptoms that were both severe and debilitating (including head pounding, various upper respiratory symptoms, constant coughing, severe tinnitus). I tried all the FLCCC ideas. The only thing that worked was low dose naltrexone. It completely eliminated the symptoms. I took LDN for 18 months before I finally was able to stop LDN without the symptoms returning.
The point is that long Covid is real. Those who say it doesn't exist are clearly wrong. I do suspect long vaxx is more often than not the cause of long Covid symptoms, but obviously not always. I do believe early treatment is more often than not beneficial -- but it didn't work for me.
FWIW, I don't believe a self-spreading Covid virus is the reason people get sick with "Covid," and I'm confident it didn't start in Wuhan in 2019. I believe it's more likely we've been poisoned. Like lots of things, I suspect different people react differently to whatever we've been poisoned with. Many were poisoned with the shots. I wasn't.
I'm convinced Steve is fundamentally wrong about using SSRIs for Covid treatment (though before I educated myself about fluvoxamine it was among the things I tried for treating acute Covid). Covid is simply too insignificant and the well-known adverse effects of SSRIs are too dangerous to ever warrant using those toxic drugs to treat Covid. Steve may or may not be right about whether SSRIs can treat Covid, but he has failed to consider the adverse effects of SSRIs (or the fraudulent FDA approval process that allowed the very dangerous SSRIs on the market). Subjecting oneself to the well known SSRI risks is simply too high a price to pay for Covid treatment, especially given the existence of so many other safe and effective Covid treatments.
I agree that in some cases like yours, long тАШcovidтАЩ is fair dinkum, and congratulate you on searching for answers.
I had EBV in 1977 and over the years had fatigue and brain fog to varying degrees. I was able to manage and in those days with absolutely no help from conventional medicine. Over the past 20 yrs, IтАЩve got on top of it slowly and with all the info around now, IтАЩm feeling better than ever ( also retired so less stress)!
I took Ivermectin when I got a bit sick in late 2022 and was better in 2 days but found a bit more fatigue afterwards ЁЯе▓! Most recently, IтАЩm trying nicotine(2mg gum/day) and am finding increased energy. - see how that goes in the longer term.
IтАЩm always on the lookout for ideas.
All the best.
Thank you for sharing your experience - mine is quite similar. Still dealing with a nagging cough and pretty serious case of discouragement. Just so hard to believe how many people still donтАЩt get it. I think thatтАЩs the hardest part.
Don't get discouraged! I'm convinced there are answers most of the time. I went pretty far down the FLCCC and other lists before I solved the problem. If you haven't tried LDN yet, you may want to. It worked like a miracle for me. But finding the right dose is tricky and there wasn't much help online. If you haven't tried LDN but intend to, I may be able to provide some details that'll save you time and trouble. Separately, while ivermectin didn't work for me, I have two friends who in recent days got excellent results from it. Both had been unable to get past what we think were "long vaxx" symptoms they had been dealing with for many months with "help" from the traditional medical system. Using ivermectin, one got results last week in about 24 hours and the other one after two days. I've seen Dr. Kory talk about those who are ivermectin responders and those who are not. I wasn't, but those two friends definitely were. The dose they used successfully was 0.6 mg/kg. If you haven't tried ivermectin, then you may want to give it a try.
Thank you, I may look into that. I tend to avoid all things Pharma related so I went the Dr.Zelenko route of Whole Food Vit C, Vit D1/K2, Zinc, and Quercitin. In addition I take a Curcumin Supplement most days as well as a Fruiting Body Multi-Mushroon supplement. IтАЩm not super consistent about it though, and I know with our levels of exposure to all things toxic, you really do have to be. I appreciate the advice thoughтАжas well as the experiences - I tend to trust that more than most everything else.тЬМЁЯП╝
We seem to think similarly. And you may be like the two friends I mentioned. Their "long" symptoms were persistent cough, tiredness, and lack of energy. Not life threatening, but not fun and kind of miserable.
I agree. ThatтАЩs one of the silver linings of this whole disaster - realizing there really are lots of us who think similarly, and I guess we might never have realized that without having all gone through this together. Yay.ЁЯШЕ
& shedding.