I guess $2M wasn't enough. It seems the doctors promoting the false narrative are pretty busy. They appear for free when CNN calls. But when I ask, they run for cover. Odd.
Well Steve, this is not an amount of money throwing at it problem. Now that you have woken up to pharmaceutical/medical side industrial complex (which I realized in April of 2020), if you down the rabbit hole more and more, then will realize that at the level this whole thing/agenda is being orchestrated where Anthony Faucis of the world are just lieutenants of the system and order followers of their owners/agenda. As you go higher & higher pharmaceutical/vaccines are just one branch and tool in the tool box and many things are interconnected. The same system/group that would take your friend RFK JR’s father & uncle out at that level are behind this as well. Many people who are awake (not hypnotised anymore) have been predicting this. So guess its time to start believing in the conspiracy theories which are more facts than theories. Understanding why Tanzania’s president Magafulli (among others) would suddenly die after being vocal about Vaccine agenda,etc… would provide some hints to your question why “how much money offer” is not the question to ponder, but why no one would entertain it. First, they know they will loose and they know their life/career/reputation will be taken out. So, how much money is needed may not be the question to the problem you are targeting now. Just my opinion and views at this very point of my waking life?
So you sent an email to yourself? The image you posted as the email you claim to have sent is addressed to yourself. WTF?
And correct me if I’m wrong but above it says:
“Peter McCullough told America on Joe Rogan that I was willing to offer ANYONE $2M just to talk to me.” [emphasis added] and, “ You’d think I’d have been flooded with requests.
Nope. No such luck. I’m lonelier than the Maytag repairman. WTF is going on here?!?!”
Well Steve, I’m “anyone” and I’d be glad to keep you company one afternoon for a debate. Or is your offer to debate “anyone” no longer valid since “anyone” showed up?
Thank you!....your musings had me laughing ...something I've rarely done over the last 2 years....it felt good to laugh. Just shows you the absurdity of their narrative. A friend of mine who is on disability said she'd debate you and it woukd be a Public trouncing. We both laughed over that silly plan. 🤣 Love your writing and truth telling. I look forward to your email every day!
Seriously just offer them 100 million each, and have a twitter poll to see who won and give the winner any properties you own. If they still dont turn up then call them brain damaged and tell them you will never talk to them again.
I’ll accept your challenge. I will debate you. Put the money is escrow, let’s agree on the format, the date, and the topics of debate. Let’s sign contracts.
You wanted a man of science to take you on. Well, here I am. Put up or shut up.
I am a scientist. I would say that we have relatively equal qualifications in that neither of us are immunologists, virologists, or even medical doctors. However, both of us are capable of gathering the information and arguments from those who are and presenting/arguing them in a debate. If you think my qualifications are lacking, then you should make an easy meal of me. However, I think you know that’s not going to be the case and why you will decline my agreement to debate you. After all, if you can’t hold your own against me, then why should any of those experts agree to debate you?
So what? You think only someone who is an expert in a field can debate a topic in that field? What do you think attorneys do in court everyday in cases that are often centered around very scientifically complex evidence and issues?
You're IGNORING THE POINT being raised by Mr. Kirsch. He's a leader in a movement, and being targeted for harassment and Censorship, by people who are afraid to answer the arguments that raises. Debating a weak-ass proxy, that nobody knows or cares about, and who isn't directly tied to the campaign of censorship - does nothing for him. So he beats you silly in the first round...what does that do for him? If the media doesn't cover it, and Big Tech continues their NIH/Event201 censorship - nobody will even know that it happened, except for those of us who already know that you're punching and picking fights way above your weightclass.
He's the champ, holding a belt. These folks are refusing to face him, and denying his title. You might as well go to a UFC and challenge one of their champions, from cage side, at the arena. There's no reason for any of them to accept your challenge, either.
Or is he a “champ” because he says what you want to hear and is your chosen leader of your Anti-Vaxx agenda? He certainly isn’t a “champ” because of any research he’s conducted or peer reviewed medical studies he’s published in the areas of immunology or virology. Those people are the real champs.
But I’m “a weak ass proxy” and I’m just a “nobody” who was a Senior Consultant at NASA JSC Mission Control and on President Bush’s Hart Team of his Space Exploration Initiative; A faculty member at Ga. Tech.; Set world land speed records; and a trial lawyer who has tried more jury trials than I can count. But wait, your are in essence arguing that you want to measure the value of an argument based on the credentials of the person making the argument and their fame and fortune instead of the science, data, and logic of the argument itself. How telling.
What this tells me is that this isn’t an exercise to find the truth at all. Instead, this entire public call to debate is a farce. It’s a publicity stunt and nothing more. I’ve called him out, and he will find an excuse not to debate me just as I predicted. Likewise, if any opponent whom you deem worthy of accepting his challenge were to appear, he would find some excuse to bow out.
I like your analogy though so let’s use it: Steve is no more of a UFC champ than I am. You become a champ by beating other fighters who aren’t a champ first. If he wants to fight one of the real champs, he has to earn the right by first fighting and defeating lesser opponents. Lesser fighters just like you claim I am. So here I am. His entry level bout. Defeat me and then maybe someone you think is a more worthy opponent may accept his challenge. But if he refuses to debate me, all his other words are nothing but noise.
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim I’m not a worthy opponent to face him, while at the same time claiming he is a worthy opponent to face others when the only real difference in our credentials has nothing to do with the topic of this “debate”. That’s hypocrisy at its finest.
Steve is the champ - because he's championing the cause of human rights, and the Nuremberg Principles, and peer reviewed, evidence based medicine - to the point where nearly all of the Silicon Valley Tech platforms have felt the need to censor him, to maintain the appearance that their entirely fraudulent narrative wasn't debunked, more than a year ago.
If you think that you (a LOSER NOBODY, that no one has ever heard of, who's now busily acting as an attack poodle, on the behalf of - Technocratic Totalitarianism, Eugenics and Global Depopulation advocates like Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, and the parties that they front for...) have the chops to win an argument with Steve - start your own blog, and post links here in the comments. Show us that you can even last half a round, in sparring.
That's the equivalent of working your way towards a title shot. Steve doesn't need to bankroll your doomed efforts. I'm sure that Bill Gates or Cass Sunstein would be happy to pay you for what you're doing here, already. https://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/ That's how YOU can work your way up the rankings, to get your "title shot". As it is - you're just some loudmouth, yelling from a crowd, that already knows who the champ is. Israel Adesanya isn't going to fight you, either. Go a head and get a few W's before you try to claim that the champ is 'avoiding you'. Meanwhile - it's VERY OBVIOUS that WEF/NIH/CIA-hatchet persons like Leanna Wen, wouldn't DARE try to collect that money, or step into The Octogon, with Steve.
But if Steve debates you - when he crushes your vacuous arguments in support of easily disproven nonsense...then he'll have to debate the well-financed efforts to claim that your specious arguments weren't completely destroyed. And since your side of the debate has limitless technical capacity and bandwidth to project a false result around the world, it will be a distraction that has 0 upside for him, or the cause of the truth.
You protesteth too much, that he isn't the champ. If he weren't, you wouldn't be here trying to claim a few Million that he didn't offer to you - while running errands, for those to whom he did.
Thanks for laying out your irrelevant CV for me. Which ever Bush gang you were a part of - the CIA Chief Bush's, or The Cheney/W. Regime, it hardly inspires confidence in the area of your honesty and integrity.
The latter was the home of the STILL UNSOLVED, US ARMY ANTHRAX letter attacks, the Pentagon's "Dark Winter Excercise", and the push to install the Constitution-voiding "Model Emergency Health Powers Act" and "USA-PATRIOT ACT"s, where you would have been alongside prize swine like Robert Kadleck - a key figure behind the scenes, in our current Scamdemic/Plandemic. The former Bush was responsible for REX-84 Alpha, and the Iran-Contra-CIA Crack scandals(, and likely, a part of the hit on JFK, too)... Not a tonne of integrity there, either.. I'm not shocked that a sweet fellow like yourself, would be welcomed into Werner VonBraun's 'Colonia Dignidad North', either.
If I'm an "Anti-Vaxxer" - what's Professor Emeritus Halsey from the University of Alaska Fairbanks...? Is he a "Conspiracy Theorist"...like the majority of Americans, who think that we weren't told the entire truth about "9/11" or the many US Government assasinations, back in the 1960's? That kind of thought-terminating cliche touches on #'s 5 and 9 on this list of familiar tactics of professional liars. http://whale.to/m/disin.html
I'm a Covert Operations Researcher. I've been doing that for decades now. I've seen a bunch of these dishonest techniques you're using, before.
Here's an idea, Counselor... Why don't you try and pick up a win vs. another Attorney - like Jeff Childers over at Covid and Coffee - as you try to defend your FORCED HUMAN MEDICAL EXPERIMENTATION and common law rights inverting agenda. Argue with him that there's some tremendous need to force everyone on the planet to take unsafe experimental products - that DO NOT stop infection, transmission, or spread...or even slow any of that down That's a lower ranked opponent - who I'm certain would be game, to clean your clock for you.
It's funny that you went into all of that nonsense about credentials... Being the Champ is a Prima Facie thing that we can a see... Not a credential. You're the one focusing on "credentials" and making appeals to the authority, of opaque and corrupt institutions, like the NIH, and the ones that have previously hired you. Steve is just a guy who rose through his intelligence and talent. From what I can see, you got where you are by being willing to kiss ass in a corrupt system, and cover for dishonest sociopaths.
Really?! Care to stipulate your qualifications? I think Steve intended the money for someone who is not only a man of science, with significant experience, but also involved in the current "authoritative" organisations carrying out this tyranny.
I'm kind of reading some. Is it just about the VAERS interpretations? I did try to view the YouTubes but the first is impossible to follow, the second has three people all at once again hard to follow.
It is not just about VAERS, but misinterpreting VAERS is a foundational component of Steve's misinformation. His claim that vaccines have killed more than 100,000 Americans depends on it. All of his "different" calculations rest on the same fallacy.
I guess I found Steve wanting to debate more than VAERS data. I haven't considered the claim of exactly how many have been injured by the vaccines, but my look at VAERS said a lot of harm has happened. Given the minimal risk of covid to those under 50, any harm suggests great caution. Now that seems to be Steve's message. Given that VAERS is certain to not capture every event, each reported event has significance. I'm not fully informed about the investigations of those reported event. In the past I would have accepted the investigations as competent but in today's environment I've lost considerable faith.
Steve wants to play whac-a-mole. He raises a specious argument, but rather than defending it he just raises another. Often as not his new argument is ad hominem or anecdotal or appeal to one of his purported authorities. One recurring trick he uses is to claim "lack of time" when he can't counter or wants to suppress his opponent's argument. For example, after he badgered one of his victims for not knowing the Bradford Hill criteria, we was unable to state them. Sad.
There have been about 400 million covid shots in the US, and there are about 8,000 reports of death following vaccination--not death because of vaccination. Each of these deaths is investigated. No more than a handful have been determined to be caused by vaccination. Some have died of clots following J&J. Some may have died of myocarditis following Moderna in particular, but maybe Pfizer too. The number is miniscule compared to Steve's claims, and miniscule compared to the number of lives saved.
But they are denying and censoring all of us. Hard to change the tide if you can't even see the water.
Steve you are not allowed to debate with logic or science, that's not fair. They've never done that before, the left is about feelings, what they feeeel at any given time. That's why we have a never ending saga. "Don't hurt their feelings" with your cold hard science, or you could get the lash...
The news won’t be able to deny what is happening in politics. We may have to rely on (brave) politicians to do the debates, court ordered, and publicly, with your support of information and questions that will greatly shift the tide.
David Martin says that he already gave Rand Paul and other people in power enough information to put Fauci behind bars, and yet Rand only went so far as to call him a lier.
Perhaps all politicians are being controlled by something that really scares them… I believe that many, like Rand, is trying to go as far as he can (safely) go.
For the pharmaceutical companies, the central banks, and the tracking systems who will have the control over all people once the social control system through QR codes (and, like starting in Sweden, implanted microchips),billions and trillions are at stake.
That kind of money can but you a lot of influence and power. We can probably not even imagine what kind of threats these cartels can make to senators and governors.
I'd be wary of trusting Martin. Just an instinct based on a few things -- I'd like to trust him, but there are a few yellow flags for me, which I won't get into here.
Fair enough - I'm sorry I don't really have time for this. But, suffice it to say...some online have stated, and I believe they are correct, that he "may be" a high-order freemason. After listening to him at length, he is a very intelligent man (obviously), but I don't believe he is trustworthy - my view, of course, and I may be wrong. I'd strongly urge you to steer clear of higher order masons. Nothing against them as people, but they subscribe to a set of values that aren't good, frankly. Take care.
Is it possible to get a court order interview with a person of your choice on account of holding people responsible for the safety in regards to any recommendation or mandate?
Last week I got in an argument with a friend at a basketball game where he called me a f'ing 2nd grader. I told him I wasn't wearing a mask, so couldn't be in elementary school... loved my zinger, hate this happened.
But he is a lawyer and argues in court. On a smaller level than you, I challenged him to a debate (I don't know rules in a courtroom/case law) so offered in front of our common group. A) never heard from him since, and 2) Because of Kirsh, Malone, Keheriarty, et al, I think they'd have to scrape the floors with his remains if we did this.
However, everyone reading this is in the same boat as me...we are 'only in the echo chamber' or 'are flat earthers' because of how this has been going globally.
My wife asked me to go to a counselor because I'm angry/upset/depressed my company may impose a mandate/everyone else in that situation. Sent me to a communist. He wouldn't engage, either. Just said I needed to decide jab or job. I think we are <10% of the world. Truly oppressed by the masses. Sad times.
I was just thinking "I wonder how they sleep at night knowing what they know." But then it dawned on me. As pharma's lap dogs, I'm sure their medicine cabinets are stocked with every mind and conscience numbing drug on the market.... Sleeping pills, anxiety meds, etc., pharma has them covered.
Evil exists. This is what most people refuse to accept today. It's as if Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mao, etc, etc, etc never existed. Normal people just can't believe that anyone could be that evil or corrupt. Well, I'm here to tell you that they exist in abundance. And, many of them are in positions of power over you.
I have personally dealt with sociopaths in my professional life. The first time was a shocker. If you have never had the pleasure, believe me, you have no idea the extents they will go to manipulate everyone to achieve their goal. This even applies to matters that, to you or me, would seem to have no worthwhile consequence. They will lie with absolute total sincerity, steal, murder and any other immoral, unethical, criminal act to achieve their goal. Their ability to remember and keep track of their lies and deceit is stunningly remarkable. They lack any ability to truly experience compassion or empathy but are absolutely capability at feigning it and sucking you in. I understand that unless you have seen and documented this first hand it is very difficult to grasp. Please believe me, they are all around you. It is the most profound classification of mental illness and has impacted everyone whether or not you realize it. The sooner people understand this and recognize it the better off we will be. They are out there in large numbers just as much as any other disease. It's a mis-wired brain and cannot be fixed.
Steve, lets frame the issue this way, If Fauci was so willing to kill at 500,000- 600,000 people, then what pertinence is money? He doesn't do anything for money that he doesn't need or want. He's got the President, the media sucking his lollipop.
Yep. Just what I thought. This is a publicity stunt. Which is exactly why you won’t debate me. If little ole me can best you in a debate, your entire house of cards will come crumbling down.
I keep laughing my ass off every time I read about Steve’s offers. No one out there has the balls to sit down face to face and defend their idiotic mandates and “scientific information” (facts😂🤣). Steve would cream them.
Just as I thought. This was nothing more than hot air designed to impress your minions. A publicity stunt.
Well, he has the money. If I were eligible, I'd take him up on it.
But I agree with him substantially on kill shot.
I'll argue with him for free if Steve is pro abortion ( not sure, but e was a Democrat. I am pro life. And, I think GOP uses desperate pro lifers
Well Steve, this is not an amount of money throwing at it problem. Now that you have woken up to pharmaceutical/medical side industrial complex (which I realized in April of 2020), if you down the rabbit hole more and more, then will realize that at the level this whole thing/agenda is being orchestrated where Anthony Faucis of the world are just lieutenants of the system and order followers of their owners/agenda. As you go higher & higher pharmaceutical/vaccines are just one branch and tool in the tool box and many things are interconnected. The same system/group that would take your friend RFK JR’s father & uncle out at that level are behind this as well. Many people who are awake (not hypnotised anymore) have been predicting this. So guess its time to start believing in the conspiracy theories which are more facts than theories. Understanding why Tanzania’s president Magafulli (among others) would suddenly die after being vocal about Vaccine agenda,etc… would provide some hints to your question why “how much money offer” is not the question to ponder, but why no one would entertain it. First, they know they will loose and they know their life/career/reputation will be taken out. So, how much money is needed may not be the question to the problem you are targeting now. Just my opinion and views at this very point of my waking life?
Cheers…
So you sent an email to yourself? The image you posted as the email you claim to have sent is addressed to yourself. WTF?
And correct me if I’m wrong but above it says:
“Peter McCullough told America on Joe Rogan that I was willing to offer ANYONE $2M just to talk to me.” [emphasis added] and, “ You’d think I’d have been flooded with requests.
Nope. No such luck. I’m lonelier than the Maytag repairman. WTF is going on here?!?!”
Well Steve, I’m “anyone” and I’d be glad to keep you company one afternoon for a debate. Or is your offer to debate “anyone” no longer valid since “anyone” showed up?
Oh wow Steve, you're on fire 🔥 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you!....your musings had me laughing ...something I've rarely done over the last 2 years....it felt good to laugh. Just shows you the absurdity of their narrative. A friend of mine who is on disability said she'd debate you and it woukd be a Public trouncing. We both laughed over that silly plan. 🤣 Love your writing and truth telling. I look forward to your email every day!
Seriously just offer them 100 million each, and have a twitter poll to see who won and give the winner any properties you own. If they still dont turn up then call them brain damaged and tell them you will never talk to them again.
Great idea. Why didn’t I think of that!
I’ll accept your challenge. I will debate you. Put the money is escrow, let’s agree on the format, the date, and the topics of debate. Let’s sign contracts.
You wanted a man of science to take you on. Well, here I am. Put up or shut up.
Great. Which category are you in?
I am a scientist. I would say that we have relatively equal qualifications in that neither of us are immunologists, virologists, or even medical doctors. However, both of us are capable of gathering the information and arguments from those who are and presenting/arguing them in a debate. If you think my qualifications are lacking, then you should make an easy meal of me. However, I think you know that’s not going to be the case and why you will decline my agreement to debate you. After all, if you can’t hold your own against me, then why should any of those experts agree to debate you?
Empty nonsense. I'll debate as well, but my credentials are in physics which provides no original research in the prerequisites.
So what? You think only someone who is an expert in a field can debate a topic in that field? What do you think attorneys do in court everyday in cases that are often centered around very scientifically complex evidence and issues?
You're IGNORING THE POINT being raised by Mr. Kirsch. He's a leader in a movement, and being targeted for harassment and Censorship, by people who are afraid to answer the arguments that raises. Debating a weak-ass proxy, that nobody knows or cares about, and who isn't directly tied to the campaign of censorship - does nothing for him. So he beats you silly in the first round...what does that do for him? If the media doesn't cover it, and Big Tech continues their NIH/Event201 censorship - nobody will even know that it happened, except for those of us who already know that you're punching and picking fights way above your weightclass.
He's the champ, holding a belt. These folks are refusing to face him, and denying his title. You might as well go to a UFC and challenge one of their champions, from cage side, at the arena. There's no reason for any of them to accept your challenge, either.
What hypocrisy. Let’s consider:
A champ? Because he invented a wireless mouse?
Or is he a “champ” because he says what you want to hear and is your chosen leader of your Anti-Vaxx agenda? He certainly isn’t a “champ” because of any research he’s conducted or peer reviewed medical studies he’s published in the areas of immunology or virology. Those people are the real champs.
But I’m “a weak ass proxy” and I’m just a “nobody” who was a Senior Consultant at NASA JSC Mission Control and on President Bush’s Hart Team of his Space Exploration Initiative; A faculty member at Ga. Tech.; Set world land speed records; and a trial lawyer who has tried more jury trials than I can count. But wait, your are in essence arguing that you want to measure the value of an argument based on the credentials of the person making the argument and their fame and fortune instead of the science, data, and logic of the argument itself. How telling.
What this tells me is that this isn’t an exercise to find the truth at all. Instead, this entire public call to debate is a farce. It’s a publicity stunt and nothing more. I’ve called him out, and he will find an excuse not to debate me just as I predicted. Likewise, if any opponent whom you deem worthy of accepting his challenge were to appear, he would find some excuse to bow out.
I like your analogy though so let’s use it: Steve is no more of a UFC champ than I am. You become a champ by beating other fighters who aren’t a champ first. If he wants to fight one of the real champs, he has to earn the right by first fighting and defeating lesser opponents. Lesser fighters just like you claim I am. So here I am. His entry level bout. Defeat me and then maybe someone you think is a more worthy opponent may accept his challenge. But if he refuses to debate me, all his other words are nothing but noise.
You can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim I’m not a worthy opponent to face him, while at the same time claiming he is a worthy opponent to face others when the only real difference in our credentials has nothing to do with the topic of this “debate”. That’s hypocrisy at its finest.
Steve is the champ - because he's championing the cause of human rights, and the Nuremberg Principles, and peer reviewed, evidence based medicine - to the point where nearly all of the Silicon Valley Tech platforms have felt the need to censor him, to maintain the appearance that their entirely fraudulent narrative wasn't debunked, more than a year ago.
If you think that you (a LOSER NOBODY, that no one has ever heard of, who's now busily acting as an attack poodle, on the behalf of - Technocratic Totalitarianism, Eugenics and Global Depopulation advocates like Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, and the parties that they front for...) have the chops to win an argument with Steve - start your own blog, and post links here in the comments. Show us that you can even last half a round, in sparring.
That's the equivalent of working your way towards a title shot. Steve doesn't need to bankroll your doomed efforts. I'm sure that Bill Gates or Cass Sunstein would be happy to pay you for what you're doing here, already. https://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/ That's how YOU can work your way up the rankings, to get your "title shot". As it is - you're just some loudmouth, yelling from a crowd, that already knows who the champ is. Israel Adesanya isn't going to fight you, either. Go a head and get a few W's before you try to claim that the champ is 'avoiding you'. Meanwhile - it's VERY OBVIOUS that WEF/NIH/CIA-hatchet persons like Leanna Wen, wouldn't DARE try to collect that money, or step into The Octogon, with Steve.
But if Steve debates you - when he crushes your vacuous arguments in support of easily disproven nonsense...then he'll have to debate the well-financed efforts to claim that your specious arguments weren't completely destroyed. And since your side of the debate has limitless technical capacity and bandwidth to project a false result around the world, it will be a distraction that has 0 upside for him, or the cause of the truth.
You protesteth too much, that he isn't the champ. If he weren't, you wouldn't be here trying to claim a few Million that he didn't offer to you - while running errands, for those to whom he did.
Thanks for laying out your irrelevant CV for me. Which ever Bush gang you were a part of - the CIA Chief Bush's, or The Cheney/W. Regime, it hardly inspires confidence in the area of your honesty and integrity.
The latter was the home of the STILL UNSOLVED, US ARMY ANTHRAX letter attacks, the Pentagon's "Dark Winter Excercise", and the push to install the Constitution-voiding "Model Emergency Health Powers Act" and "USA-PATRIOT ACT"s, where you would have been alongside prize swine like Robert Kadleck - a key figure behind the scenes, in our current Scamdemic/Plandemic. The former Bush was responsible for REX-84 Alpha, and the Iran-Contra-CIA Crack scandals(, and likely, a part of the hit on JFK, too)... Not a tonne of integrity there, either.. I'm not shocked that a sweet fellow like yourself, would be welcomed into Werner VonBraun's 'Colonia Dignidad North', either.
If I'm an "Anti-Vaxxer" - what's Professor Emeritus Halsey from the University of Alaska Fairbanks...? Is he a "Conspiracy Theorist"...like the majority of Americans, who think that we weren't told the entire truth about "9/11" or the many US Government assasinations, back in the 1960's? That kind of thought-terminating cliche touches on #'s 5 and 9 on this list of familiar tactics of professional liars. http://whale.to/m/disin.html
I'm a Covert Operations Researcher. I've been doing that for decades now. I've seen a bunch of these dishonest techniques you're using, before.
Here's an idea, Counselor... Why don't you try and pick up a win vs. another Attorney - like Jeff Childers over at Covid and Coffee - as you try to defend your FORCED HUMAN MEDICAL EXPERIMENTATION and common law rights inverting agenda. Argue with him that there's some tremendous need to force everyone on the planet to take unsafe experimental products - that DO NOT stop infection, transmission, or spread...or even slow any of that down That's a lower ranked opponent - who I'm certain would be game, to clean your clock for you.
It's funny that you went into all of that nonsense about credentials... Being the Champ is a Prima Facie thing that we can a see... Not a credential. You're the one focusing on "credentials" and making appeals to the authority, of opaque and corrupt institutions, like the NIH, and the ones that have previously hired you. Steve is just a guy who rose through his intelligence and talent. From what I can see, you got where you are by being willing to kiss ass in a corrupt system, and cover for dishonest sociopaths.
Really?! Care to stipulate your qualifications? I think Steve intended the money for someone who is not only a man of science, with significant experience, but also involved in the current "authoritative" organisations carrying out this tyranny.
STJ: Since you asked me not to respond to you, please reciprocate. Goodbye.
The first thing you've said (and the last) that I actually agree with. Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Would you like to contribute to my written debate with Steve?
https://gvc169.substack.com/p/engaging-steve-kirsch-in-debate
Have you watched his other "debates"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1nF2YAn9DQ&t=4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUmicxBfWuo&t=3000s
https://rumble.com/vquomm-dr.-al-ozonoff-interview-have-the-vaccines-killed-more-people-than-they-sav.html
I'm kind of reading some. Is it just about the VAERS interpretations? I did try to view the YouTubes but the first is impossible to follow, the second has three people all at once again hard to follow.
That's Steve's goal.
It is not just about VAERS, but misinterpreting VAERS is a foundational component of Steve's misinformation. His claim that vaccines have killed more than 100,000 Americans depends on it. All of his "different" calculations rest on the same fallacy.
I guess I found Steve wanting to debate more than VAERS data. I haven't considered the claim of exactly how many have been injured by the vaccines, but my look at VAERS said a lot of harm has happened. Given the minimal risk of covid to those under 50, any harm suggests great caution. Now that seems to be Steve's message. Given that VAERS is certain to not capture every event, each reported event has significance. I'm not fully informed about the investigations of those reported event. In the past I would have accepted the investigations as competent but in today's environment I've lost considerable faith.
Steve wants to play whac-a-mole. He raises a specious argument, but rather than defending it he just raises another. Often as not his new argument is ad hominem or anecdotal or appeal to one of his purported authorities. One recurring trick he uses is to claim "lack of time" when he can't counter or wants to suppress his opponent's argument. For example, after he badgered one of his victims for not knowing the Bradford Hill criteria, we was unable to state them. Sad.
There have been about 400 million covid shots in the US, and there are about 8,000 reports of death following vaccination--not death because of vaccination. Each of these deaths is investigated. No more than a handful have been determined to be caused by vaccination. Some have died of clots following J&J. Some may have died of myocarditis following Moderna in particular, but maybe Pfizer too. The number is miniscule compared to Steve's claims, and miniscule compared to the number of lives saved.
Number of lives saved? Can you back that up? How many? In 2021, the year of the vaccine, more have died than in 2020. Square that please.
But they are denying and censoring all of us. Hard to change the tide if you can't even see the water.
Steve you are not allowed to debate with logic or science, that's not fair. They've never done that before, the left is about feelings, what they feeeel at any given time. That's why we have a never ending saga. "Don't hurt their feelings" with your cold hard science, or you could get the lash...
The news won’t be able to deny what is happening in politics. We may have to rely on (brave) politicians to do the debates, court ordered, and publicly, with your support of information and questions that will greatly shift the tide.
https://www.davidmartin.world/
David Martin says that he already gave Rand Paul and other people in power enough information to put Fauci behind bars, and yet Rand only went so far as to call him a lier.
Perhaps all politicians are being controlled by something that really scares them… I believe that many, like Rand, is trying to go as far as he can (safely) go.
For the pharmaceutical companies, the central banks, and the tracking systems who will have the control over all people once the social control system through QR codes (and, like starting in Sweden, implanted microchips),billions and trillions are at stake.
That kind of money can but you a lot of influence and power. We can probably not even imagine what kind of threats these cartels can make to senators and governors.
I'd be wary of trusting Martin. Just an instinct based on a few things -- I'd like to trust him, but there are a few yellow flags for me, which I won't get into here.
Well, at least point me
In the right direction🤪✨ and let me know where I can learn more about David.
Fair enough - I'm sorry I don't really have time for this. But, suffice it to say...some online have stated, and I believe they are correct, that he "may be" a high-order freemason. After listening to him at length, he is a very intelligent man (obviously), but I don't believe he is trustworthy - my view, of course, and I may be wrong. I'd strongly urge you to steer clear of higher order masons. Nothing against them as people, but they subscribe to a set of values that aren't good, frankly. Take care.
Is it possible to get a court order interview with a person of your choice on account of holding people responsible for the safety in regards to any recommendation or mandate?
Not as far as anyone knows. No law allows it.
Sure it does. File a lawsuit that has merit and standing, and then do a deposition.
What's the deal with the 100m offer and then back down to 18m after that? What am i missing...? Lol
It’s 1B. As in Billion
Jesus, i need glasses...
Last week I got in an argument with a friend at a basketball game where he called me a f'ing 2nd grader. I told him I wasn't wearing a mask, so couldn't be in elementary school... loved my zinger, hate this happened.
But he is a lawyer and argues in court. On a smaller level than you, I challenged him to a debate (I don't know rules in a courtroom/case law) so offered in front of our common group. A) never heard from him since, and 2) Because of Kirsh, Malone, Keheriarty, et al, I think they'd have to scrape the floors with his remains if we did this.
However, everyone reading this is in the same boat as me...we are 'only in the echo chamber' or 'are flat earthers' because of how this has been going globally.
My wife asked me to go to a counselor because I'm angry/upset/depressed my company may impose a mandate/everyone else in that situation. Sent me to a communist. He wouldn't engage, either. Just said I needed to decide jab or job. I think we are <10% of the world. Truly oppressed by the masses. Sad times.
I feel your pain. Really astonishing.
I was just thinking "I wonder how they sleep at night knowing what they know." But then it dawned on me. As pharma's lap dogs, I'm sure their medicine cabinets are stocked with every mind and conscience numbing drug on the market.... Sleeping pills, anxiety meds, etc., pharma has them covered.
Evil exists. This is what most people refuse to accept today. It's as if Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mao, etc, etc, etc never existed. Normal people just can't believe that anyone could be that evil or corrupt. Well, I'm here to tell you that they exist in abundance. And, many of them are in positions of power over you.
I have personally dealt with sociopaths in my professional life. The first time was a shocker. If you have never had the pleasure, believe me, you have no idea the extents they will go to manipulate everyone to achieve their goal. This even applies to matters that, to you or me, would seem to have no worthwhile consequence. They will lie with absolute total sincerity, steal, murder and any other immoral, unethical, criminal act to achieve their goal. Their ability to remember and keep track of their lies and deceit is stunningly remarkable. They lack any ability to truly experience compassion or empathy but are absolutely capability at feigning it and sucking you in. I understand that unless you have seen and documented this first hand it is very difficult to grasp. Please believe me, they are all around you. It is the most profound classification of mental illness and has impacted everyone whether or not you realize it. The sooner people understand this and recognize it the better off we will be. They are out there in large numbers just as much as any other disease. It's a mis-wired brain and cannot be fixed.
Steve, lets frame the issue this way, If Fauci was so willing to kill at 500,000- 600,000 people, then what pertinence is money? He doesn't do anything for money that he doesn't need or want. He's got the President, the media sucking his lollipop.
This is more to show the public that they won’t do it for any amount of money. That’s the point of this
Yep. Just what I thought. This is a publicity stunt. Which is exactly why you won’t debate me. If little ole me can best you in a debate, your entire house of cards will come crumbling down.
I keep laughing my ass off every time I read about Steve’s offers. No one out there has the balls to sit down face to face and defend their idiotic mandates and “scientific information” (facts😂🤣). Steve would cream them.