So why aren't we doing experiments on animals to determine the safety and efficacy of the COVID vaccines? Answer: Because nobody wants to know the answer.
I never said the germ theory should not be open to challenge. All I said is I believe, based on my experience and observations, that germs are real. I believe the germ theory does a much better job of explaining the examples I've given than the theories of Andrew Kauffman and Thomas Cowan, for example. Your personal experience has differed, and you have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't disprove the germ theory. It's quite possible that if your levels of certain nutrients are high enough, you will be immune to the depredations of germs, or certain germs. Regarding Spanish Flu, I'm aware of the experiments you cite, and aware of the theories that Spanish Flu was caused by electrosmog or even adverse reactions to vaccines. But just because Spanish Flu wasn't caused by a germ doesn't mean that germs don't cause other ailments. I don't say for sure that viruses exist, but if they don't then somebody needs to come up with an explanation for "contagion" events that aren't bacterial. Several times my family has gotten together for the holidays, with people driving or flying in from diverse locations, and somebody has been sick. Each time this happened, other family members have gotten sick shortly thereafter, with the same symptoms. It's simply not believable that the cause of these illnesses was a lifetime of poor health choices, and that everyone got sick all at the same time and then all miraculously got well in a few days.
When people understand that there never was a virus, then we can focus our attention on who is doing this to us, and why. And what we can do about it.
THERE NEVER WAS A VIRUS
Before she died the queen of England LOST a court case in Canada because this young man was charged with attending a gathering of more than ten people during lockdown. He won his case because THE CROWN COULD NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THERE EVER WAS A SARS CoV2 VIRUS.
I have a question about the "live virus". How exactly does this work, since the very definition of a virus states (Any of various submicroscopic agents that infect living organisms, often causing disease, and that consist of a single or double strand of RNA or DNA surrounded by a protein coat. Unable to replicate without a host cell, viruses are typically not considered living organisms.) , that they are not alive?
Also, how can a non living thing adapt and know where to attach its self after it is excreted from the cell to transport its self to another host? That is a behaviour of a living organism, not some RNA or DNA with a protein coat.
Whether isolated are not, all illness is being pushed to Covid, long covid. I place that with big pharma advertisements. Why take a pushed drug by pharma when over half the side effects cover everyday ailments/issues people already have. May cause the runs, upset stomach, headache, dizziness etc. Use to watch and laugh. Doctors can't even decide for the patients. Criminal.
Still remaining is the question of the purpose of all those symptoms we call sickness, which all seem to help the body eliminate debris & crud it finds useless & dangerous to retain. Even if the virus is 'the cause' of those symptoms, do we want to interfere with the body's efforts to get rid of noxious stuff? Maybe helping to expedite the process (fasting, sauna, even enemas -- traditional practices in various cultures)-- rather than inhibiting, is appropriate. What attracts the (virus) to some bodies and not to others? This asks us to consider the terrain. Does the virus cause the problem or reflect the results of response to an imbalance or problem? The current (CDC et al) promoted narrative would have us believe there's one virus/germ per disease, leading to the promotion of yet another shot for every germ discovered (great business model!!). I say we need to look more at strengthening the body's efforts to rebalance itself, including thorough elimination of metabolic wastes, toxins (abundant in our civilized lifestyle) and other debris, = strengthen innate immunity, which is totally ignored by the conventional narrative. 'seems we need to clarify our assumptions about virus.
Did you see the clip from the Milken Institute (Future of health summit) Fauci and other cohorts speaking? Ocotber 29th 2019. Always clues to their own illnesses. Video of Fauci, HHS in 2019 Plotting “Disruptive” New Outbreak in “China Somewhere” to “Blow the System Up” and Enforce Universal mRNA Vaccination. How much more info is needed for their nefarious deeds? Covid came out in order to push mass jabs of something that is not proving to be helpful to the people, only helpful to force people to take, even tho over 99% people will be fine if you get it. A few years back I had the flu which was horrible. Following the science and isolation makes no point to me at this time due to all their played out games with all people around the world and the amount of lost lives post jab. Insurance companies high rise in benefits between the ages of 18-64. Funeral homes in areas for alot was normal. No real rise until again post jab. People ask where are all the workers. UN a few years back had and should still be there? what they consider productive years. Well 18-64 are and for quite a few productive years unstill it was stolen in the name of Covid.
Vero CCL-81 cells were used for isolation and initial passage. Vero E6, Vero CCL-81, HUH 7.0, 293T, A549, and EFKB3 cells were cultured in Dulbecco’s minimal essential medium (DMEM) supplemented with heat inactivated fetal bovine serum(5 or 10%) and antibiotic/antimyotic (GIBCO).
How is a supplementation with “heat inactivated fetal bovine serum” considered an isolation? How does one know that the alleged isolation is not contaminated with the heat inactivated fetal bovine serum?
Additionally, the alleged sequencing was done using Sanger Sequencing Software. https://bit.ly/3PM6HU5
Is this not simply the “in silico” computer aided modeling process that Dr. Kaufman refers to in his criticism of how the alleged SARS-CoV-2 virus was allegedly isolated?
This is not an in vivo to even an in vitro isolation which would at least be a material rather than software generated isolation of the genome.
How does the software distinguish the input as being a pure isolate of the alleged virus genome, if the sample was supplemented with fetal bovine serum?
Seems a bit disingenuous to claim isolation of a product supplemented with bovine serum and then analyzed via software that only responds to whatever is fed to it under the assumption that it is pure isolate.
Was the pure isolate then, according to Koch’s postulates, ever then injected into a healthy subject to see if this alleged isolate (really an “in silico” model, not a material isolate) would produce the claimed COVID disease symptoms (which changed frequently over time) in the healthy person?
Then, extracted and re-isolated to prove that the same alleged virus actually caused the disease symptoms?
Even if the virus were isolated as they claim, that is only one step in the process of proving that is capable of causing the alleged COVID disease.
That alone is not a sufficient proof of cause. More is needed as described above. Was it performed or simply assumed?
Additionally, pointing to a particle and claiming it is the virus says nothing about the quantity of that alleged entity in the photograph and neither does an RT-PCR test. The RT-PCR test is used to match a genomic sequence and tells nothing about the quantity of that alleged genomic sequence in the individual.
As Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize winning inventor of the test stated: The test was meant to be used under the hood. That is, in the lab, not as a diagnostic test and then for no more than 30 cycles before the results began to become meaningless.
The RT-PCR tests conducted to match the “in silico” (computer generated) genome provided by China via electronic transmission of the sequences claimed to be SARS-CoV-2 were all instructed to be run at 40 cycles and above which is the reason so many false positives were produced by these genome matching tests.
Exosomes have been said to be exactly the same thing as viruses , that is to say, exosomes have been proven to exist and they look exactly like viruses in pictures. But there is a big difference, virus hunting is where goes all the big research money, which comes from big pharma selling their poisons. And your scientist friends have no problem with what they are selling at 2 thousand bucks a pop, is that not similar to big pharma selling useless and dangerous snake oil for profit and power? What proof is there that so-called viruses are not actually exosomes, what proof is there of the differences between viruses and exosomes, and if they are, how would that affect germ theory and big pharma profits and power??
I read it all. It is clearly pro-"virus" propaganda. Alleged and so-called "viruses" are the basis for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in profits across the education, medical, chemical, and pharmaceutical industries. The benefactors of the The Big Virus Hoax will go to great lengths to keep their money-making SCEME alive and profitable. But the sandy loose ground their HOAX is built upon is starting to slide out from under them. That's why they are now releasing numerous articles across the internet in an effort to promote the existence of "viruses" while simultaneously endeavoring to defame all who are coming out of the woodwork to expose their SCHEME. The fact that they are resorting to statements like "it is all semantics" or "it is a matter of interpretation" proves their state of panic and desperation. There are no such things as invasive, infectious, contagious, microbial creatures called "viruses." There are only toxic and poisonous chemical concoctions being created in laboratories. End of debate. End of controversy. TheBigVirusHoax.com
I have a few points. a) you can't find a virus unless you look for it. How was it known that the original 41 patients with symptoms indistinguishable from pneumonia had a new disease which must have a viral cause? b) Stefan Lanka's 'bet' was for one paper, so sticking to the original conditions is hardly a technicality. However none of the 6 papers together OR singly showed isolation according to the experts. Not a technicality. c) In the experiments showing animals get sick when 'exposed' to vials of 'virus' , none showed air borne transmission. Large amounts of fluid are injected directly into their tracheas, causing totally expected trauma. d) The PCR was primed with sequences from GenBank for expected SARS like viruses and from the crude sample from Wuhan. There where never any blinded experiments to show diagnostic specificity. It tells us nothing about anything. Thank you
According to Dr. Sam Bailey, there is no virus. I'm included to accept her conclusions. Further, Christine Massey, as is commented below, after FOIs worldwide, with no results of isolation proof, has come to the same conclusion. Dr. Sam Bailey:https://drsambailey.com/articles/
I love Dr Sam. This very blog linked https://drsambailey.com/covid-19/warning-signs-youve-been-tricked-by-virologists/ linked here in this blog! I believe there is no covid so no viral cause. Further proof is the startling lack of concern for the actual causes of illness eg the terrible pollution in China (the leading cause of childhood mortality) and in the UK 2/3rds of people being overweight or obese.
This interview with Christine Massey describes how she made FOIA requests to nearly every governmental agency in the world regarding covid virus isolation. In all cases, the governmental entities state that it has not been isolated.
Both of these references support each other in terms of exposing the adulteration of the samples by other sources of genetic material as well as the manipulation with computer modeling.
Kaufman uses a great analogy where you take a cat and put a speaker around its neck that makes a barking sound and then calling it a dog. It's not a dog just because it makes a barking sound.
I never said the germ theory should not be open to challenge. All I said is I believe, based on my experience and observations, that germs are real. I believe the germ theory does a much better job of explaining the examples I've given than the theories of Andrew Kauffman and Thomas Cowan, for example. Your personal experience has differed, and you have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't disprove the germ theory. It's quite possible that if your levels of certain nutrients are high enough, you will be immune to the depredations of germs, or certain germs. Regarding Spanish Flu, I'm aware of the experiments you cite, and aware of the theories that Spanish Flu was caused by electrosmog or even adverse reactions to vaccines. But just because Spanish Flu wasn't caused by a germ doesn't mean that germs don't cause other ailments. I don't say for sure that viruses exist, but if they don't then somebody needs to come up with an explanation for "contagion" events that aren't bacterial. Several times my family has gotten together for the holidays, with people driving or flying in from diverse locations, and somebody has been sick. Each time this happened, other family members have gotten sick shortly thereafter, with the same symptoms. It's simply not believable that the cause of these illnesses was a lifetime of poor health choices, and that everyone got sick all at the same time and then all miraculously got well in a few days.
Steve, I have EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG asking me for money already, but I'll definitely put your name on the list of people I need to send money to!
When people understand that there never was a virus, then we can focus our attention on who is doing this to us, and why. And what we can do about it.
THERE NEVER WAS A VIRUS
Before she died the queen of England LOST a court case in Canada because this young man was charged with attending a gathering of more than ten people during lockdown. He won his case because THE CROWN COULD NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THERE EVER WAS A SARS CoV2 VIRUS.
https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4
On the subject of whether or not the 'virus' 'exists', I thought you might find this interesting: https://sebastienpowell.substack.com/p/the-virus-or-the-egg
I have a question about the "live virus". How exactly does this work, since the very definition of a virus states (Any of various submicroscopic agents that infect living organisms, often causing disease, and that consist of a single or double strand of RNA or DNA surrounded by a protein coat. Unable to replicate without a host cell, viruses are typically not considered living organisms.) , that they are not alive?
Also, how can a non living thing adapt and know where to attach its self after it is excreted from the cell to transport its self to another host? That is a behaviour of a living organism, not some RNA or DNA with a protein coat.
Whether isolated are not, all illness is being pushed to Covid, long covid. I place that with big pharma advertisements. Why take a pushed drug by pharma when over half the side effects cover everyday ailments/issues people already have. May cause the runs, upset stomach, headache, dizziness etc. Use to watch and laugh. Doctors can't even decide for the patients. Criminal.
Still remaining is the question of the purpose of all those symptoms we call sickness, which all seem to help the body eliminate debris & crud it finds useless & dangerous to retain. Even if the virus is 'the cause' of those symptoms, do we want to interfere with the body's efforts to get rid of noxious stuff? Maybe helping to expedite the process (fasting, sauna, even enemas -- traditional practices in various cultures)-- rather than inhibiting, is appropriate. What attracts the (virus) to some bodies and not to others? This asks us to consider the terrain. Does the virus cause the problem or reflect the results of response to an imbalance or problem? The current (CDC et al) promoted narrative would have us believe there's one virus/germ per disease, leading to the promotion of yet another shot for every germ discovered (great business model!!). I say we need to look more at strengthening the body's efforts to rebalance itself, including thorough elimination of metabolic wastes, toxins (abundant in our civilized lifestyle) and other debris, = strengthen innate immunity, which is totally ignored by the conventional narrative. 'seems we need to clarify our assumptions about virus.
Did you see the clip from the Milken Institute (Future of health summit) Fauci and other cohorts speaking? Ocotber 29th 2019. Always clues to their own illnesses. Video of Fauci, HHS in 2019 Plotting “Disruptive” New Outbreak in “China Somewhere” to “Blow the System Up” and Enforce Universal mRNA Vaccination. How much more info is needed for their nefarious deeds? Covid came out in order to push mass jabs of something that is not proving to be helpful to the people, only helpful to force people to take, even tho over 99% people will be fine if you get it. A few years back I had the flu which was horrible. Following the science and isolation makes no point to me at this time due to all their played out games with all people around the world and the amount of lost lives post jab. Insurance companies high rise in benefits between the ages of 18-64. Funeral homes in areas for alot was normal. No real rise until again post jab. People ask where are all the workers. UN a few years back had and should still be there? what they consider productive years. Well 18-64 are and for quite a few productive years unstill it was stolen in the name of Covid.
Cell culture, limiting dilution, and isolation
Vero CCL-81 cells were used for isolation and initial passage. Vero E6, Vero CCL-81, HUH 7.0, 293T, A549, and EFKB3 cells were cultured in Dulbecco’s minimal essential medium (DMEM) supplemented with heat inactivated fetal bovine serum(5 or 10%) and antibiotic/antimyotic (GIBCO).
How is a supplementation with “heat inactivated fetal bovine serum” considered an isolation? How does one know that the alleged isolation is not contaminated with the heat inactivated fetal bovine serum?
Additionally, the alleged sequencing was done using Sanger Sequencing Software. https://bit.ly/3PM6HU5
Is this not simply the “in silico” computer aided modeling process that Dr. Kaufman refers to in his criticism of how the alleged SARS-CoV-2 virus was allegedly isolated?
This is not an in vivo to even an in vitro isolation which would at least be a material rather than software generated isolation of the genome.
How does the software distinguish the input as being a pure isolate of the alleged virus genome, if the sample was supplemented with fetal bovine serum?
Seems a bit disingenuous to claim isolation of a product supplemented with bovine serum and then analyzed via software that only responds to whatever is fed to it under the assumption that it is pure isolate.
Was the pure isolate then, according to Koch’s postulates, ever then injected into a healthy subject to see if this alleged isolate (really an “in silico” model, not a material isolate) would produce the claimed COVID disease symptoms (which changed frequently over time) in the healthy person?
Then, extracted and re-isolated to prove that the same alleged virus actually caused the disease symptoms?
Even if the virus were isolated as they claim, that is only one step in the process of proving that is capable of causing the alleged COVID disease.
That alone is not a sufficient proof of cause. More is needed as described above. Was it performed or simply assumed?
Additionally, pointing to a particle and claiming it is the virus says nothing about the quantity of that alleged entity in the photograph and neither does an RT-PCR test. The RT-PCR test is used to match a genomic sequence and tells nothing about the quantity of that alleged genomic sequence in the individual.
As Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize winning inventor of the test stated: The test was meant to be used under the hood. That is, in the lab, not as a diagnostic test and then for no more than 30 cycles before the results began to become meaningless.
The RT-PCR tests conducted to match the “in silico” (computer generated) genome provided by China via electronic transmission of the sequences claimed to be SARS-CoV-2 were all instructed to be run at 40 cycles and above which is the reason so many false positives were produced by these genome matching tests.
Even Faux-ci admitted that the cycles were being run too high!
Exosomes have been said to be exactly the same thing as viruses , that is to say, exosomes have been proven to exist and they look exactly like viruses in pictures. But there is a big difference, virus hunting is where goes all the big research money, which comes from big pharma selling their poisons. And your scientist friends have no problem with what they are selling at 2 thousand bucks a pop, is that not similar to big pharma selling useless and dangerous snake oil for profit and power? What proof is there that so-called viruses are not actually exosomes, what proof is there of the differences between viruses and exosomes, and if they are, how would that affect germ theory and big pharma profits and power??
I read it all. It is clearly pro-"virus" propaganda. Alleged and so-called "viruses" are the basis for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in profits across the education, medical, chemical, and pharmaceutical industries. The benefactors of the The Big Virus Hoax will go to great lengths to keep their money-making SCEME alive and profitable. But the sandy loose ground their HOAX is built upon is starting to slide out from under them. That's why they are now releasing numerous articles across the internet in an effort to promote the existence of "viruses" while simultaneously endeavoring to defame all who are coming out of the woodwork to expose their SCHEME. The fact that they are resorting to statements like "it is all semantics" or "it is a matter of interpretation" proves their state of panic and desperation. There are no such things as invasive, infectious, contagious, microbial creatures called "viruses." There are only toxic and poisonous chemical concoctions being created in laboratories. End of debate. End of controversy. TheBigVirusHoax.com
This is great explanation by Dr. Kaufman. His response to Jeremy Hammond.
https://truthcomestolight.com/virus-isolation-is-it-real-andrew-kaufman-md-responds-to-jeremy-hammond/
Does the ends ever justify the means? A critical thinker would say no. Never ever. Animal (or human) testing is never justified.
I have a few points. a) you can't find a virus unless you look for it. How was it known that the original 41 patients with symptoms indistinguishable from pneumonia had a new disease which must have a viral cause? b) Stefan Lanka's 'bet' was for one paper, so sticking to the original conditions is hardly a technicality. However none of the 6 papers together OR singly showed isolation according to the experts. Not a technicality. c) In the experiments showing animals get sick when 'exposed' to vials of 'virus' , none showed air borne transmission. Large amounts of fluid are injected directly into their tracheas, causing totally expected trauma. d) The PCR was primed with sequences from GenBank for expected SARS like viruses and from the crude sample from Wuhan. There where never any blinded experiments to show diagnostic specificity. It tells us nothing about anything. Thank you
you raise excellent points. thank your for responding. The article was a bit careless.
a bit???
According to Dr. Sam Bailey, there is no virus. I'm included to accept her conclusions. Further, Christine Massey, as is commented below, after FOIs worldwide, with no results of isolation proof, has come to the same conclusion. Dr. Sam Bailey:https://drsambailey.com/articles/
I love Dr Sam. This very blog linked https://drsambailey.com/covid-19/warning-signs-youve-been-tricked-by-virologists/ linked here in this blog! I believe there is no covid so no viral cause. Further proof is the startling lack of concern for the actual causes of illness eg the terrible pollution in China (the leading cause of childhood mortality) and in the UK 2/3rds of people being overweight or obese.
I love Dr Sam also - yes she is beautiful - outside and in!
Viruses exist because we believe they exist. After all, why do people get sick?
God exists because we believe it exists.
After all, why would the universe exist?
See how that goes? It's a logical fallacy to assume something, just because you don't have a proper explanation.
I could also claim that tooth fairy is making people sick. If you don't provide proper evidence for the viruses, my explanation is as good as yours.
Just because people get sick, it doesn't mean dead viruses make them sick...
I am not convinced that any organization has isolated the virus based upon at least two references.
This first reference is Andrew Kaufman explaining the fraud that is "isolation" techniques.
https://odysee.com/@DrAndrewKaufman:f/Virus_Isolation_Is_It_Real_Andrew_Kaufman_Responds_To_Jeremy-Hammond:9
This interview with Christine Massey describes how she made FOIA requests to nearly every governmental agency in the world regarding covid virus isolation. In all cases, the governmental entities state that it has not been isolated.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/07/the-non-existent-virus-explosive-interview-with-christine-massey/
Both of these references support each other in terms of exposing the adulteration of the samples by other sources of genetic material as well as the manipulation with computer modeling.
Kaufman uses a great analogy where you take a cat and put a speaker around its neck that makes a barking sound and then calling it a dog. It's not a dog just because it makes a barking sound.
Lanka's 3 phases of experiments are the nail in the coffin on this debate.
Do you have a link to the resource?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oBJOwKpgtDqX/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0sgLwkeZlwtI/