Has the virus been isolated? Yes.
Has the virus been isolated? Yes.
So why aren't we doing experiments on animals to determine the safety and efficacy of the COVID vaccines? Answer: Because nobody wants to know the answer.
At-a-Glance
The virus against which COVID vaccines have been developed has been isolated and experiments could be done on animals in specialized labs that can safely handle certain viruses, rather than conducting an experiment on us. Such experiments could include biodistribution studies and could elucidate what happens to animals that are vaccinated and then exposed to the virus.
There is no interest on the part of the FDA to require animal experimentation and vaccine manufacturers certainly have no interest in doing such experiments.
The cost to do the required studies would be $10m. If everyone reading this substack became a paid subscriber for $5/month, we would raise the funds to conduct these experiments.
I rely on expert opinions of people who I trust for certain issues like whether or not the virus has been “isolated.” It’s a reasonable approach if you are careful about which experts you trust.
All of the expert friends I’ve asked (including Robert Malone and Li-Meng Yan) tell me that “the virus has been isolated.” So it has been “isolated” according to their belief in what the term means.
Others interpret the term differently and would claim the virus hasn’t been isolated. In fact, according to their definition, no virus in history has ever been isolated. That’s important to know. They use that as justification for their belief that there is no virus here since viruses don’t exist at all.
Both sides are right because they define the term differently. It’s all semantics.
You can physically buy the virus in various forms (at ATCC and EVAg). If you have a BSL3 lab and a live virus, you can expose it to animals and they will get sick.
Some people will disagree with what I just wrote
I knew my statement would light a fire before I wrote this. When I asked on my telegram channel “has the virus been isolated?” I received 295 comments which is around 10X more than normal.
When I posted this article on Telegram, it again lit up with 284 comments as of Jan 9.
Various commenters are calling each other flat earthers, etc. Nobody on the chat has ever ordered a product from ATCC.
The arguments go flying about double-blind studies to “prove” you got the right virus, the use (or misuse) of Koch’s postulates, whether Andrew Kaufman and Stefan Lanka are “for real” or “nut jobs,” whether the FOIA asks were contrived to elicit a null response, and what the definition of “isolation” really is (does it mean purified or not, for example).
If you watch this video at 4:00, you’ll see even virologists themselves don’t agree on the definition of “isolate.” Does it require purification or not? If we don’t agree on the terminology, there is no end to the arguments. And that’s exactly what we see on the chat.
That us why debating Kaufman and his collaborators is fruitless: each side will dig in on their own definitions and settle nothing. I just got off the phone with James Lyons-Weiler who debated this issue (he didn’t recall who he debated with) but his take is that it went nowhere and both sides were unmoved after the “debate.”
These three articles are a good read:
No, German ‘supreme court’ didn’t rule that ‘measles doesn’t exist’
Report Falsely Claims US CDC ‘Admits COVID-19 Doesn’t Exist’
Stefan Lanka lost his $100,000 bet in the lower court because someone found 6 papers that together proved Lanka was wrong. The Supreme Court in Germany overturned it because Lanka put terms in his bet that it had to be a single paper. So Lanka was fundamentally wrong and simply won on a technicality.
DontCoitusMyCOTUS (despite the colorful language) points out:
Andrew Kaufman, Stefan Lanka, Tom Cowen are misleading people with their arguments. Kaufman, for example, is a psychiatrist who admits he has never done virus research.
“Hysterical watching a <insults redacted> demand virus isolated to their imaginary specs and dismissing ATCC which is the world’s largest oldest and most important micro organism repository in the world.”
The FOIA document requests are a “stunt designed to fail”
“Virus not isolated”: the definition Kaufman, Cowan, etc. use is different than what scientists who publish papers on virus isolation use. This is why there is such disagreement on this question because different people interpret “has been isolated” differently.
If you search for “Isolation of Wuhan Virus” you’ll find many papers in PubMed and NIH in many countries with details on how isolation was done (for example this one and this one). You can see a TEM picture here. Here are more references.
ATCC 351 variant RNA for sale is not in culture.
Don Newmeyer points out: “People insisting that the virus hasn’t been isolated or that they’re computer generated are displaying their ignorance of modern biology. Virus isolation and genomic sequencing is just basic methodology nowadays.”
Collapsse Podcast wrote: “The debate over whether or not it's been isolated is a distraction”
Matthew wrote: “I'm surprised you're giving Doctor Weed the time of day. I gave up ages ago debating with these virus denying folk. No matter what evidence you provide them, they choose to dismiss it in favor of what a psychiatrist says who's been caught lying and unable to provide a scientific rebuttal to the papers which prove it's existence. Kaufman didn't even understand how to read a reverse primer for a pcr test and was claiming they're testing for human DNA.” He showed a clip where Kaufman admits, “I’ve never done virus research”
Given a live virus, you can use it to test the vaccine
You can test the vaccine easily as well. Give the vaccine to the animals, wait, then expose them to the virus. You can do biodistribution studies of the vaccine as well; you don’t even need the virus for those studies.
Someone asked:
The real question is ... has it been isolated from a HUMAN subject w/o passing it through (say) Monkey Kidney Cells? Because there is plenty of evidence out there that says it hasn't been isolated directly (no intermediaries) from a HUMAN subject.
I know that Sabine Hazan verified that the sequence of the virus obtained from ATCC matched exactly what she found in people who have the virus. Do these isolates have other stuff in them? How were they created? I don’t know because I haven’t analyzed them personally. But my scientist friends seem happy with them. At $2,000 a shot, I don’t think they’d market the product if it was contaminated and useless. Am I wrong?
So today we have the ability to do animal experiments to assess the safety and efficacy of the vaccine and boosters.
Why aren’t we doing animal experiments?
A critical thinker might then ask, so why aren’t we experimenting on animals instead of humans?
The answer is simple: because nobody wants to know the answer. The FDA doesn’t and neither do the drug companies. That’s why the FDA isn’t requiring the drug companies to do it. So it doesn’t get done.
In fact, the FDA is never going to require them to do this; the top management of the FDA knows it would kill the vaccine program if they did this. That’s why they don’t ask. Because they don’t want to know.
One commenter suggested that testing on animals is unethical; that we should test on politicians instead.
So it’s up to us if we want answers
Private individuals can fund the needed experiments and have them performed at one of the 10 BSL3 labs in the US.
The cost to do these experiments to show conclusively that the vaccines are both dangerous and ineffective is less than $10M.
I would fund this myself if I had a spare $10M sitting around, but I don’t.
And I haven’t found a philanthropist in the world who is interested, able, and willing to fund the research.
It seems nobody wants to know. All the philanthropists I know took the blue pill it seems, apparently even Elon Musk.
One other option…
If everyone who is reading this article right now subscribes to my newsletter, I’d have the funds to get this done. It’s a small price to pay to find out. It’s up to you. Do you want to know? It will cost you $5/month to find out. Is it worth it? We’ll find out.
Steve, I love your work, but here you are failing to actually use the intrepid research skills which you really should be using on this issue. It’s a tragedy to read you spout and pass on this nonsense that the “virus” has been isolated. A small bit of research would have revealed this to be false. What is claimed to be a virus can in no way be proven to be anything other than cellular debris. Let me give your own link as an example.
Clicking on your link ATCC (where you can buy “the virus”)
Takes you to the following information:
“Each vial contains approximately 0.25 mL of heat-inactivated, clarified cell lysate and supernatant from Calu-3 cells (ATCC HTB-55) infected with SARS-CoV-2 strain USA/MD-HP05285/2021. “
Clicking on “ATCC HTB-55” immediately reveals that this “isolate” includes Adenocarcinoma epithelial cells. “Adenocarcinoma” means lung cancer. So these are lung cancer cells, which are mixed with another mixture claimed to be the isolate of “SARS-Cov2” (but which in reality is also not isolated).
So why when selling “Sars-cov2” are they mixing it with lung cancer cells and why not healthy lung cells? Because the “virus” (or more accurately - what is pointed to as "the virus") cannot be seen when the “isolate” (in reality the nasal swab not fully purified) is placed on healthy lung cells, there is no cell debris (which is what is pointed to as the “virus”).
So they use cancer lung cells which break down on their own, and then they can point to the cellular debris and make two claims: 1. That adding the “virus” is what caused the cellular debris and 2. That the debris itself is “the virus” growing (that is what is photographed using EM).
However, neither of those claims are supported by the scientific literature. 1. The claim that the virus caused the debris is obviously untenable, because no such debris is found using healthy lung cells - thus the need to use “Adenocarcinoma” cells. It is also not controlled for - there is no control experiment showing whether the lung cells would have broken down anyway. And third, this HAS been controlled for in other experiments, and the lung cells DO break down - without adding anything ‘viral.”
The second claim, that the photographs of these broken down cells are photographs of “viruses” has been disputed ALL THROUGHOUT the literature. It can be read over and over that there is no way of identifying so called “viruses” from other cellular debris based on EM photos. Just because you see a little circle in an Electron Micrograph photo and someone says “that’s the virus” doesn’t mean that IS the virus, any more than someone pointing to that same circle and saying “that’s the tiny UFO that makes everyone sick.” It's an appeal to the consequent. It’s a basic logical fallacy. Please research this! Let me make this super clear for you: how do YOU Steve know that the photo you showed (which has been colorized by the way) IS a virus. HOW do you know that? Go search for the proof of how you know that - you will find that you cannot find such proof. It is never deduced/induced.proven in the papers, because it cannot be proven. For example, here is a quote from the Journal of General Virology Jan 2019 "exosomes (cell debris) and viruses do not conform to strict definitions - making it nearly impossible to classify these. Particles are often classified as a virus or an exosome based on the preference of the investigator...but may be more accurately defined as particles that cannot be easily differentiated."
It’s absolutely tragic to see you passing on this nonsense as truth. Especially because you are on of the brightest and most powerful voices in the movement for medical freedom. Please, I only hope you take the time to learn this aspect of the science (or properly pseudoscience). You can start with the book “The Contagion Myth” or by joining “the infectious myth” Facebook group. Or just emailing me and we can talk it out.
There is no pandemic there never was. The "virus" has never been identified.
The "virus of concern" escaped from the board rooms of Pharma/Biotech/Private Equity firms.
No so-called ‘coronavirus’ has ever been fully isolated, characterized and proven to cause a particular disease in any animal or human studies. They are ALL theoretical, ‘in silico’ computer-models. Period.
The original SARS was never isolated- it's also another computer generated illusion created for the sole purpose of "validating" the phony pandemic narratives.
Covid is just a massive extortion racket for big pharma and their criminal doctor and public health friends to prevent an illness caused by a virus that does not even exist.
The CDC and their European counterparts are vaccine cartels which are now empowered to “give freedoms” to the “vaccinated.” Virus “variants” are nothing more than new income streams for Pharma corporations.
‘SARSCoV2’ was itself a “variant” of the ‘SARSCoV1’ template, a theoretical model based on another theoretical model.
Vaccine Passports are the Trojan horse for SDG Digital Identity. The vaccine passport is the means, the ends are the complete control of your labor and life. They have been thinking for 30 years about how to bypass people’s resistance to their capital being controlled by a government-oligarchy partnership and people are falling straight into the trap.
Masked up imbeciles are nothing but empty eyes without a face. Eyes above the bacteria-laden masks look like those of cattle caught in the pen – ocular orbs of dull emptiness, subverted humanity.
Fauci is a corrupt bureaucratic toadboy for Big Pharma. Gates is a silver spoon criminal psychopath. Both profit from mRNA experimental injections. Are the human guinea pigs waking up to this yet?
The biggest fraud of all is the entire medical industrial complex. For the past 100 years or more they’ve been claiming the credit for things that builders, sewerage workers, water treatment plants, garbage men, gutter designers, roofers, fridge inventors, electricians etc. have created.
Workers around the world lost $3.7 trillion during the “pandemic.” Billionaires around the world gained $3.9 trillion in the “pandemic.”
I think we just identified the virus.