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I think a lot of very smart people have debated about logic, gut instinct and intuition. It's not that logic and science are bad but, in some cases, can be deeply flawed. Before I became a pastor, I had a master's degree in psychology. I think there are some crazy things that psychology proposes but they get some things correct. When I think about the whole covid thing it is obvious it is primary driven by fear. I agree peer pressure and threat of career loss is real, but it seems the primary driver is fear. When the tv set and internet says 24 hours a day that if you don't get injected with a covid shot you will either die or kill your grandma your brain goes dead, and you lose the ability to think rationally. Think about all the people that still drive alone with masks on. They are clinically insane. The strangest thing about all this is there is a certain percentage of people that will never fall for it.

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Yep, lots of us come from cults of one kind or another and can recognize abuse, manipulation and "all in it togetherness".

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I think we're making too much of the fear element. The vast majority of people I know just took it to be on the safe side or because it was mandated and they didn't want to lose their job. They all believed it had been approved and was safe and effective. Most didn't do any serious independent research because they trusted what their governments were telling them. The fearful ones wearing masks alone in their cars are mostly elderly as far as I can tell and possibly slightly demented. Others are simply hypercondriacs. It's much more ignorance, mental laziness, trust in gov't, willingness to comply without questioning, docility etc. that drove all this.

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I mostly agree, but I read a survey which said the 40% of people got the shots to keep their job. That to me is among the most outrageous aspect of this. Most people were not fooled by the distored coverage, probably because, like you, they relied on instinct. It was the 1% bullies that pushed this through by either bribing or coercing the media, medicine, corporations, government. I don't think the people who took it for their jobs realized all of the potential dangers involved (due to censorship), but they knew they didn't need it. So incredbly terrible.

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That's the best argument for increased savings and "f#ck you money" I've ever heard.

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True enough, but I was hoping to save that FU money for retirement. Oh, well. It's cat food for me, I guess.

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More nutritious than the average shopping cart contents I've heard :]

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That 40% figure rings true. I worked in the corporate offices of a healthcare provider ten years ago here in southeast Michigan. Over the years, it had strongly encouraged employees to get annual flu shots.

To less than sterling avail, as the administration never got above the 59% compliance rate. So it instituted a vaccine mandate. Employees who refused the flu shot faced summary dismissal.

It may be that a lot of employees maneuvered exemptions. I don't know. This much I do know: there was no mass exit and the healthcare provider got a 97% compliance rate.

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Wow. Disgusting. I imagine this is going on everywhere.

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It is doublespeak. No "healthcare providers" mandate "flu shots". Terrorists push poison. An important step is to unsubscribe from their 'health insurance' schemes. This is a legal requirment because sponsoring terrorism is a felony and such terrorists receive money from 'insurance' so it is sponsoring terrorism. Thie boycott will shut down the terrorist network. No money = no power. Unsubscribe today and put people on notice they are facing felony charges for sponsoring terrorism. For your own health and safety unsubscribe. "If you don't like it, unsubscribe":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1o--TPzZQs

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The healthcare provider was a hospital. It required the flu shot as a condition of employment, not as a condition of qualifying for health insurance. Only 59% of employees got the flu shot before the mandate; the hospital got 97% compliance after.

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Companies and organizations worldwide did this. Sorry for your friend and millions of others who did the same

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