Saar Wilf and I are getting very close to finalizing an agreement to debate the question of whether the COVID vax has led to an increase or decrease in all-cause mortality.
I hope someone like John Ioniddis is doing a study looking at outcomes for vax vs. unvax of a large database like Kaiser Permanente. I think I would trust the results regardless of what the outcome was or at least take it into consideration given the mountain of information showing the dangerous mechanisms of the vax.
51 k people. Shows increasing probability of infection with increasing vaxx doses.
This could be an important line of argument. The vaccines, at least recently, increase the risk of testing positive. So how could a vaccine rollout save lives when the data shows the vaccines increase probability of contracting the virus?
Imagine thinking that the vaccines magically saved more people since their introduction than the number of people the disease (ostensibly) killed throughout the *entire scamdemic* in the U.S. And then pushing a ridiculous computer model disguised as a study to showcase your lack of critical thinking skills.
Its a sort of 3 or 4 level thing, to evaluate have to go back to the original papers and model fitting, Definitely worth a look, David Plaisted below also linked this paper. Which it is not really, but in the background maybe something peer reviewed with the actual detail of what data and how used to fit their model.
So another model shows 'my God how bad it would have been without the vaxx!"
All you need is Karen Kingston. The Kingston Report on Substack. She has been shouting from the rooftops and she brings the receipts!!! She has it all. https://karenkingston.substack.com/
Sorry Susan, bet 'Confrontation' is the opposite to 'Acceptance' ('Submission' or 'Capitulation'). Neither alternative to noisy and beligerant confrontation will enable us to avoid the inevitable consequences of the intended New World Order planned over decades by the 'Elite' (WEF).
Watch out, they'll claim either that there are not excess deaths, or that they're caused by Covid, or that they're caused by the unvaccinated. This is how the cult has been trained to view things.
You have probably seen this guy they are correlated results. It is so overwhelming obvious what’s going on. Another doctor did one recently. Was certain he new what was caused by vaccine injury vrs real Covid. I believe it’s the spike protein that isn’t fully expressed in the vaccine. All proteins are expressed when you catch Covid. Someone has a get those 2 guys together. Concrite the evidence. I will see if I can find the other video.
If I understand correctly, the spike protein will be present whether the person had COVID infection or the spikeshot. But if the person had COVID infection, a pathologist will also be able to see the nucleocapsid (I think this becomes visible by specially staining the nucleocapsid protein). The nucleocapsid of a coronavirus is the round body of the virus that the spike proteins protrude from. I think pathologist Ryan Cole explains this and shows microscope slides when he presents re: COVID-19 and the spikeshots (for example in a recent Highwire show with Del Bigtree).
I hope that you are able to get top scientific minded people on this work project. They could be graduate students with high IQs and the right backgrounds. I wish I could be of help.
What about graduate students with low IQs? Are they better than undergraduate students with high IQs? I hope your presentation will have good references… for Steve.
What is the point of this. Take the shot and suffer the consequences or refuse the shot. Losing your job for refusing the shot sucks but at least you will live
What is the status of this debate?
Pisses me off when called out for hypocrisy...at myself....hey I had too much coffee , gimme a break.
I hope someone like John Ioniddis is doing a study looking at outcomes for vax vs. unvax of a large database like Kaiser Permanente. I think I would trust the results regardless of what the outcome was or at least take it into consideration given the mountain of information showing the dangerous mechanisms of the vax.
MSM was still honest in 2009 (about the Swine Flu Scam) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9qeLcq3y8w
(thanks to The Expose for pointing this out).
I recall that the toxicity of the spike protein was originally broached by a paper from the Salk Institute.
https://www.covid-datascience.com/profile/jeffreymorris/profile Jeffrey Morris is or was actively arguing against Steve, Malone, et al. Has he been dealt with. . . ?
https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/are-the-mrna-vaccines-really-safe-evaluating-claims-by-steven-kirsch-on-danger-of-spike-proteins
Here is someone who wants to argue with Steve. Has he been answered or contacted for debate?
And:
https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-does-usa-group-term-life-insurance-report-say-about-young-adult-excess-deaths-in-fall-2021
So I am assuming this thread is still 'live' on soliciting input for the slidedeck.
A preprint
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Effectiveness-of-the-Coronavirus-Disease-2019-Shrestha-Burke/caa45fa88a217dc011341892cdfb41653f98e869
51 k people. Shows increasing probability of infection with increasing vaxx doses.
This could be an important line of argument. The vaccines, at least recently, increase the risk of testing positive. So how could a vaccine rollout save lives when the data shows the vaccines increase probability of contracting the virus?
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/2022/two-years-covid-vaccines-prevented-millions-deaths-hospitalizations?fbclid=IwAR354ga2S7dnoFgNBNtZAcxYME1cPCy4qgmMxL8x8pu5c3xtOrRDShzTygE
There you go. Pay up.
I think actual RCT data trumps computer models
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4072489
Imagine thinking that the vaccines magically saved more people since their introduction than the number of people the disease (ostensibly) killed throughout the *entire scamdemic* in the U.S. And then pushing a ridiculous computer model disguised as a study to showcase your lack of critical thinking skills.
Oh never mind: you don't have to imagine it
Its a sort of 3 or 4 level thing, to evaluate have to go back to the original papers and model fitting, Definitely worth a look, David Plaisted below also linked this paper. Which it is not really, but in the background maybe something peer reviewed with the actual detail of what data and how used to fit their model.
So another model shows 'my God how bad it would have been without the vaxx!"
All you need is Karen Kingston. The Kingston Report on Substack. She has been shouting from the rooftops and she brings the receipts!!! She has it all. https://karenkingston.substack.com/
Kingston is excellent. Jane Ruby is another person who has done extensive research and brings the receipts.
Sorry Susan, bet 'Confrontation' is the opposite to 'Acceptance' ('Submission' or 'Capitulation'). Neither alternative to noisy and beligerant confrontation will enable us to avoid the inevitable consequences of the intended New World Order planned over decades by the 'Elite' (WEF).
Mick from Hooe (UK) Unjabbed = safer!
Watch out, they'll claim either that there are not excess deaths, or that they're caused by Covid, or that they're caused by the unvaccinated. This is how the cult has been trained to view things.
https://rumble.com/v2381ms-pathologist-proves-covid-vaccines-caused-deaths-drs-sucharit-bhakdi-and-arn.html
You have probably seen this guy they are correlated results. It is so overwhelming obvious what’s going on. Another doctor did one recently. Was certain he new what was caused by vaccine injury vrs real Covid. I believe it’s the spike protein that isn’t fully expressed in the vaccine. All proteins are expressed when you catch Covid. Someone has a get those 2 guys together. Concrite the evidence. I will see if I can find the other video.
If I understand correctly, the spike protein will be present whether the person had COVID infection or the spikeshot. But if the person had COVID infection, a pathologist will also be able to see the nucleocapsid (I think this becomes visible by specially staining the nucleocapsid protein). The nucleocapsid of a coronavirus is the round body of the virus that the spike proteins protrude from. I think pathologist Ryan Cole explains this and shows microscope slides when he presents re: COVID-19 and the spikeshots (for example in a recent Highwire show with Del Bigtree).
I hope that you are able to get top scientific minded people on this work project. They could be graduate students with high IQs and the right backgrounds. I wish I could be of help.
What about graduate students with low IQs? Are they better than undergraduate students with high IQs? I hope your presentation will have good references… for Steve.
I am lucky to live in Texas my husband is an ex-army. There is no way anyone in our family will take covid any other shots
What is the point of this. Take the shot and suffer the consequences or refuse the shot. Losing your job for refusing the shot sucks but at least you will live