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MeanOnSunday's avatar

That’s not a rational comment or factually accurate, these trials had a placebo control. I’ve spent my entire career designing and analyzing controlled clinical trials and I really doubt you even understand the basics of determining causal effects.

Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Jeffrey Morris will tell you this is a "well designed" trial. Well designed to obfuscate.

But the bigger issue is, it is unethical to run a trial when you already know the vaccine is unsafe.

Injected vaccines are the worst mistake in medicine

https://zenodo.org/records/15844676

Valued Customer's avatar

"...you don't really want to know the truth do you?"

Sadly, this is literally the factual answer most people seem to demonstrate. Perhaps this is why only a minority of people survive catastrophes.

Thanks!

JEFFREY BARFIELD's avatar

BIG PHARMA ARE NEVER GOING TO CHANGE AS THEY HAVE TO USE A BIG COVERUP. IF NOT THEY WOULD NEVER SELL ANY OF THEIR PRODUCTS. THEY ALSO HAVE TO CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT TESTING DRUG ADMINISTRATION ++.. THEY HAVE TO TRAIN ALL MEDICAL STAFF FOR THE COVERUP TO BE WATERTIGHT AND IT IS.

James Kringlee's avatar

"their' garbage in garbage out, easily manipulated, big pharma "gold standard" study.

Dr Paul Marik "If you think about it. The pharmaceutical companies design the study and they design it for whatever outcome they want. They then conduct the study and conduct it in a way that it will give them the outcome. They then evaluate the outcome so that they get the outcome they want. They analyze the data so it creates the outcome they want and then they get ghost writers to write the paper producing the outcome they want. It's a completely bogus system and till there is more transparency and we change the way clinical studies are done - Unfortunately, I don't think you can really believe anything you read."

Dr Paul Marik at 49:20 into the discussion of the video "Epidemic of Fraud: Exposing Hydroxychloroquine Censorship" Independent Medical Alliance (Formerly FLCCC Alliance)

here - https://rumble.com/v6pu6te-epidemic-of-fraud-exposing-hydroxychloroquine-censorship.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Daniel Murphy's avatar

In my early fifties I began to contemplate my mortality. With cancers consistently on the rise, If cancer was a stock exchange commodity we’d all be millionaires, albeit sick or dying millionaires. About a dozen years ago my layman based skepticism led me to Ty Bollinger’s “Truth About Cancer.” His family had been crushed from several cancer diagnosis and subsequent deaths and he wanted answers; like we all do. His mission was to unlock the mysteries surrounding ‘why a disease so prevalent always managed to stay ahead of the billions spent on research to cure it.’ In his travels he soon found out there were multiple methods and protocols for treating cancers. His family members didn’t need to suffer and die from the ‘dreaded mysterious disease.’ Cancer may be real and seemingly ubiquitous, but the entire monetized system of treatment for it is a dedicated canard. Mr. Bollinger’s work proved to be a pivotal event to my awakening, surrounding the corruption used as the life blood of our medical system.

From this arousal of informed skepticism, I found Mr Steve Kirsch, whose unflagging determination to serve his fellow man by presenting us with irrefutable evidence of avarice driven capitalism and the cowardice of captured government agencies; to barricade the people from fascism. Like Bollinger, Mr. Kirsch is among the most consequential people of our lifetime, bringing us knowledge and truth surrounding the lies within the vaccine issue. The man is the Schindler of our time, saving lives and I thank God for him.

William Conklin's avatar

It sounds like the medical priests use the same techniques as traditional priest. The traditional guys hang a cross around their neck and assume it protects them from the devil so the medical priest are following an established tradition.

Swabbie Robbie's avatar

Any wonder we want to end the immunity from liability for the pharmaceutical industries.

Primum non nocere's avatar

Best part is the PREP Act emergency extensions currently wont end until Jan 1, 2030. The un-Constitutional legal liability immunity it provides extends to ALL vaccines irrespective if the vaccine is already on the market or in development.

Primum non nocere's avatar

RFK has the ABSOLUTE unilateral authority to end the PREP Act emergency extension.

That inaction tells you EVERYTHING you need to know.

MeanOnSunday's avatar

If you started testing asymptomatic patients all you’d end up doing is generating imaginary symptoms. It’s also completely useless data since what you care about is symptomatic disease, hospitalizations and death. If a vaccine reduces deaths by 90% then I really don’t care if every single person that didn’t die had an asymptomatic infection, it’s still a good vaccine.

If the issue you really want to assess is transmission then that requires something completely different and you have to get more creative with the design. You can use nursing homes or hospitals to assess that setting, but let’s say you want to address the issue of the young healthy person and whether they can ethically be compelled to be vaccinated to protect others. Then you need some type of ring design or linked pair design to see if vaccination protects others. It’s a legitimate question and anyone who isn’t a complete authoritarian should want to see that kind of data before imposing mandates. You don’t seem to have addressed those issues though, only implied that lots of people are giving in to evil motivations which I find difficult to believe.

Valued Customer's avatar

Without controls, people not affected, the data from any study is useless. I find Cassandra a more useful herald than Pollyanna, and ignoring hazards to be the cause of harms.

MeanOnSunday's avatar

Not sure what your point is since this is about controlled studies. And I prefer actual science to any type of superstition; superstition is why a million people still die every year from TB, a condition for which we’ve had a vaccine for over 100 years and a cheap and quick cure for 80 years.

Valued Customer's avatar

I'm not surprised you don't understand my comment, because you don't understand the scientific method. It isn't faith. Science seeks to disprove false hypotheses, and that is done by comparing things. If you don't have a control group that isn't affected by the novel actor that is being tested, there is nothing to compare the novel actor to, and an assessment of it's potential utility cannot be made.

Hope you understand that.

MeanOnSunday's avatar

That’s not a rational comment or factually accurate, these trials had a placebo control. I’ve spent my entire career designing and analyzing controlled clinical trials and I really doubt you even understand the basics of determining causal effects.

Valued Customer's avatar

You're clearly trolling at this point. Go ahead and have the last word. I'll leave you to it.

Laura's avatar

Randomized testing would be the only way to show vaccines do anything stop the spread or protect anyone other than the person receiving the vaccine.

Louise's avatar

Joshue Rys, lead regulatory scientist at J&J, reveals how the research was conducted and WHY, in this brief interview:

https://youtu.be/AlY7g2vJIEE?si=-clHHpjTNbChLtPR

David O'Halloran's avatar

Excellent Steve, thanks for the post.

You wrote: "technically compliant but practically deceptive." Isn't this the definition of doing business legally? Once medicine becomes institutionalised it becomes political and therefore must become deceptive. For us the only answer is to avoid institutional medicine just as we avoid institutional education or work.

They - the drug pushers - do not want to know the truth since they would not be able to lie. As long as you do not know what is wrong with a car it is much easier to sell it with a clear conscience.

Given the above, these are out family guide lines on how to protect ourselves from the corrupt institutional for profit medical cartel and its slave so called doctors - please note this is just what we do and no advice of any sort to anybody else :

1. Avoid all institutional doctors unless very sick or severely injured - no panicking and running off to emergency for any little thing

2. Seek independent non institutional doctors only with a good reputation in our circle

3. Get second and third opinions from other doctors who have no connection with each other

4. Use on line resources before seeing any doctor and use different computers to get multiple unconnected opinions

5. Take great care to avoid accidents or injury

6. If showing signs of sickness stop work and take rest early - do not make sickness worse by ignoring it

7. Repeat the mantra that it is health that restores health and not dugs. Drugs are only for short term relied from symptoms; help sleeping, pain reduction that kind of thing

8. There is no drug based cure far anything. That is not what drugs are for.

9. Live together with close family who you completely trust at all times and be ready to help, nurse, care and support at home any sick member of the family.

10. Study nursing and practise at home.

Retired Medical-Tech Writer's avatar

typo on #7; its DRUGS, not dugs. Otherwise the suggestions are excellent.

Valued Customer's avatar

I must note that dugs have cured much that has ailed me. ;)

Margaret Allison's avatar

A sad day in the medical world. Keep asking questions, Steve. Hopefully, many people will refuse the jabs. I have 3 family members suffering right now from taking them. “Do no harm” worked when I walked the halls of the hospital I loved. I wonder what the old generation of MDs would say !! I can’t imagine them going along with what is happening now. So we must keep pushing back. Justice please!

Daniel Murphy's avatar

The information we receive from Steve Kirsch creates a path toward humanitarian justice. It’s far more difficult to subjugate an informed population.

Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Re: "If these products worked as claimed, there would be no problem testing and reporting them honestly."

What we have concerning these products — bioweapons— is cabal of liars and too many wusses too ashamed to admit they've been conned.

Louise's avatar

...wooses such as this guy who researched the vax at Johnson & Johnson: https://youtu.be/AlY7g2vJIEE?si=-clHHpjTNbChLtPR