Also _IF_ the virus was much deadlier, _IF_ there were no effective early treatments or preventative measures, and _IF_ we were all just okey dokey with just shredding longstanding medical ethics around consent and bodily autonomy. Yeah, nope.
Also _IF_ the virus was much deadlier, _IF_ there were no effective early treatments or preventative measures, and _IF_ we were all just okey dokey with just shredding longstanding medical ethics around consent and bodily autonomy. Yeah, nope.
In the counterfactual world you seem to have in mind, where the virus was actually a broad and serious threat, where no other effective treatment for it existed, and where the vaccine actually prevented transmission, prevented the disease, AND could be honestly shown to induce no serious damaging side effects... well, they wouldn't have to rush to mandate that, would they? Those who did not volunteer would be on their own, and their autonomy could be respected. Mandates, if any, might come decades later, after the long-term studies. Hopefully those studies would be honest as well.
The weaponization of OSHA against the adult population is genuinely unprecedented. State vaccine mandates for childhood vaccines come as requirements for admission to schools. Nearly everywhere, and especially until recently, they also have exemptions. Parents could make informed choices. Unfortunately, the medical establishment has been leaning to the wrong side of this issue for quite a while now, in proportion to the creeping pharma industry takeover. A few mainstream pediatricians have led some measured pushback.
As far as I can see none of the previous mandates were with emergency authorisation .... Or .... using a new technology, ...or ...after suspect hasty trials ...or ... for a population of which over 90% were low risk.
The fact that everyone keeps using these "long standing vaccine mandates" as a justification to current mandates is an absurd and ridiculous argument. First, these are not vaccines and we need to stop calling them that. Second, this gene manipulation pathogen producing instrument, is a brand new, poorly tested, and never tested for long term effects technology, unlike anything ever used in the past like tradional vaccine technologies.
Also _IF_ the virus was much deadlier, _IF_ there were no effective early treatments or preventative measures, and _IF_ we were all just okey dokey with just shredding longstanding medical ethics around consent and bodily autonomy. Yeah, nope.
I agree with you that the existence of effective early treatments is a point against a mandate. But vaccine mandates in general are nothing new: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/08/states-have-mandated-vaccinations-since-long-before-covid-19/
That doesn't mean you have to support them, but I don't see how you can claim they go against "longstanding" medical ethics.
Scott, how familiar are you with the 1976 swine flu vaccine rollout?
When I say "longstanding medical ethics" I'm talking about voluntary and informed consent. https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/10/letter-to-physicians-have-you-checked-your-1947-nuremberg-code-today/
In the counterfactual world you seem to have in mind, where the virus was actually a broad and serious threat, where no other effective treatment for it existed, and where the vaccine actually prevented transmission, prevented the disease, AND could be honestly shown to induce no serious damaging side effects... well, they wouldn't have to rush to mandate that, would they? Those who did not volunteer would be on their own, and their autonomy could be respected. Mandates, if any, might come decades later, after the long-term studies. Hopefully those studies would be honest as well.
The weaponization of OSHA against the adult population is genuinely unprecedented. State vaccine mandates for childhood vaccines come as requirements for admission to schools. Nearly everywhere, and especially until recently, they also have exemptions. Parents could make informed choices. Unfortunately, the medical establishment has been leaning to the wrong side of this issue for quite a while now, in proportion to the creeping pharma industry takeover. A few mainstream pediatricians have led some measured pushback.
As far as I can see none of the previous mandates were with emergency authorisation .... Or .... using a new technology, ...or ...after suspect hasty trials ...or ... for a population of which over 90% were low risk.
The fact that everyone keeps using these "long standing vaccine mandates" as a justification to current mandates is an absurd and ridiculous argument. First, these are not vaccines and we need to stop calling them that. Second, this gene manipulation pathogen producing instrument, is a brand new, poorly tested, and never tested for long term effects technology, unlike anything ever used in the past like tradional vaccine technologies.
One of those so called mandates was BEFORE the ratification of the US Constitution!