Why can't we talk about the evidence that vaccines cause autism and other "untouchable" topics?
Doctors all know what Grand Rounds is. But whether vaccines cause autism is a topic they refuse to allow anyone to question. That is NOT how science works. No topic should be banned.
Executive summary
It’s baffling to me that most scientists, when put to the task of looking at the evidence on both sides of the autism debate, cannot figure out which side is telling the truth.
This is not rocket science.
You simply take the strongest data from both sides and you examine it carefully in order to determine whether it is all consistent with hypothesis A or B (B in our case is “not A”).
You then declare which is more likely.
If new data emerges later causing the balance of data to flip, you flip the call at that point.
Only if the data is exactly even could you say “we are split.”
That is how science works.
These debates are done verbally all the time in Grand Rounds and in Morning Report where doctors challenge doctors orally in real-time.
Today, the only possible way anyone can say that “vaccines don’t cause autism” is if they completely ignore the data showing it does.
You cannot say, “I don’t believe the opposing data is correct.” You have to say why.
You cannot say, “I ignored the opposing data.” You have to say why.
They are ignoring the opposing data and refusing to say why.
That is not how science works.
Will any of them engage in a Grand Rounds with us in the audience and able to ask questions? Not that I’m aware of. That’s the problem.
Grand Rounds has evolved to be a one-way communication (presenters —> audience) with softball questions from the moderator, as shown here.
Topics that are untouchable; they will not debate
Vaccines cause autism
We’d be far healthier with no vaccines than all vaccines
How do we fix medical science so we can resolve differences quickly rather than over decades? Why do top experts refuse to debate dozens of qualified scientists who vehemently disagree with the current scientific consensus? For example, how is it that after 25 years that doctors are convinced that the science is settled that vaccines don’t cause autism when the reverse has been true for decades. The signal is very strong if you want to look for it. The papers were there showing the link. How do we fix the system so that this never happens again?
Their arguments
There’s a ton of data on our side showing vaccines cause autism. I’ve summarized it here.
The highest profile data on their side is the Madsen study (and its offshoots), the DeStefano study, and the Verstraeten study. I’ve addressed all of these studies in my previous article.
If anyone disagrees, I’d love to have a live video discussion with a qualified scientist or group of scientists, but nobody wants to talk about it. Here’s how they can request a discussion.
And if their arguments are so strong that vaccines don’t cause autism, why won’t anyone bet against me? People even claim this is a fact! Yet they won’t risk any money betting me. Hmmmm….
Could it be that we lack quality studies and can’t determine the answer yet?
I think the studies are all good enough that we can make a call today. After all, the current medical consensus on this issue is that it is “settled science,” not that we need more studies!
Additionally, it is very troubling to me that the authorities are putting “roadblocks” to ensure that quality studies designed to elicit the truth are being derailed.
Is this how science works?
Summary
Do vaccines cause autism?
This is a binary question. You answer it by lining up the data against the two options and seeing which option can explain ALL the highest quality data. No exceptions.
All the data I’m aware of lines up consistently on the side of vaccines causing autism. I have yet to run into a data point that was not consistent with this that I can’t explain (with evidence).
In fact, the strongest evidence that I am right is that the strongest evidence that the opposition uses to support their argument is very weak (study design designed to obscure a signal and no effort on the part of the researchers to learn the truth or correct their study and a refusal to supply the underlying data to other researchers).
I am not aware of anyone who has demonstrated that the data listed in my “how do you explain this evidence” autism article is either consistent with their hypothesis or invalid. They won’t talk about it.
Yet they either insist that “we need high quality studies” to answer the question or they claim that the issue is “settled science” or in the case of Martin Kulldorff, that I made a disrespectful comment in the past so it is fine to ignore all my evidence.
We have plenty of data to decide this issue now. That is not the problem. We don’t need more data.
And it is not settled science. Plenty of top scientists reject the notion that “vaccines don’t cause autism.”
The only way a true scientist can argue that “we don’t know” is if the data is split, where half the credible data supports hypothesis A, and half supports B, and the scientist is unable to resolve the conflict.
Is there such a scientist arguing this? If they want to resolve the ambiguity, why won’t they talk to me or any of my colleagues on this issue?
In general, it’s a real shame that scientists who support the “scientific consensus” are so unwilling to engage in a scientific discussion with their peers on the other side to publicly discuss the issue or join in a collaboration to design a joint experiment to settle the issue (where none of the people I invited responded).
Nobody on their side really wants to talk about this issue.
And that, my friends, tells you everything you need to know.
For me, I lived in denial for a decade. My first child was born in 2008 and his mom refused to have us vaccinate. I was very uncomfortable with this, not only for health reasons, but because it put me at odds with everyone I knew. She gave me books to read that had many credible stories of healthy babies regressing immediately, often after an MMR shot. Still, I felt unease. In 2018, she dragged me to see a film called “Vaxxed II.” It had a scene where parents of one vaxxed and one unvaxxed kid each described how their unvaxxed kid never gets sick. Then it hit me...my unvaxxed kids never get sick! So I started reading. Suzanne Humphries’ “Dissolving Illusions” convinced me that most diseases like small pox and measles had disappeared 99% BEFORE their vaccines were invented, and yet the vaccines take all the credit. JB Handley’s “How to End the Autism Epidemic” convinced me that public health agencies are corrupt, that vaccine “science” is mostly religion and that there’s a plausible connection between heavy metals in shots and autism. By the time COVID rolled around, I was ready for all the marketing b.s., scare tactics, scapegoating, etc. I knew ahead of time that I’d lose friends over my choice to avoid an experimental shot. Anyway, I’m glad they Steve Kirsch and a number of notable scientists are resurrecting this debate and pushing the establishment hard to defend its position. Same thing happened around 2000 with Andrew Wakefield, and the establishment simply assassinated his character while ignoring his science. Guys like Steve who have F.U. money can stay in the fight.
Because if that were true, the masses would finally wake up to the fact that we live in a corporate fascist state where big government and big corporate are basically the same thing.
If people realized that vaccines actually caused autism, then what else have they been lied to about? The Kennedy assassination? A lie. MLK assassination? Another lie. 9/11? Lie. Iraq War? Lie. Covid-19? Lie. It's never ending. Our entire system is based on lies. Turtles all the way down? How about psychopaths all the way down?
Steve, I know that you still don't believe that there is a malevolent force behind all of this, so how do you explain all of the lies before covid? You're just discovering the lies about autism and climate change. How deep do you think these lies go? Deep enough that you, your family, your friends and loved ones, and billions of other people were convinced to inject yourselves with a poison.