We on. Looking forward to seeing if you can make anything stick. I have my doubts but the process alone may make him think twice in the future.
MAGA - Making Accountability Great Again :-)
*edit*
In reply to the person who keeps disappearing as I'm trying to reply, if they guy feels he has a case I urge him to bring it. Most of us over the last few years have seen how low standards slip when scrutiny and accountability are not valued. If outing the Dr is illegal then Steve will need to be accountable, just as if what that Dr was saying is defamatory then he needs to be accountable. Pretty simple concept really, don't you agree?
He's a professional troll using disposable email domains. His comments are instantaneously hidden, then removed and he's banned no matter what email he uses.
First, who are you? You just joined yesterday. Are you Manns in disguise?
Second, I have a public duty to report him. That's the right thing to do.
And posting his name and work location is not doxxing. For example, Twitter rules do not consider name and work location doxxing. I checked with several lawyers to be sure.
I have a great deal of personal information on him and that is NOT posted publicly.
If he is in danger, I am not putting him in danger.
What he is doing is harming people. By revealing his identity, he disabled himself and people are not being attacked by that personna anymore.
I think that is a step forward, don't you? It is a net win for society.
And I never said he had a family. So you Nemie are doing the endangerment by revealing that detail. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Just thinking about this a little more, why not let his posts stand or fall on their merits? I mean, in the post I was trying to reply to before it disappeared he mentioned doxing. It would seem to me Steve would have taken some advice on the legalities of exposing the person behind the username before doing so, and if that is indeed the case and doesn't weaken his case, then perhaps that's worth discussing?
Further, and this is something that's not easy to do, I hope we can be the change we want to see in the world around us. The last few years have been challenging for so many of us as we see people (mainly those who go against the official narrative) having their character assassinated, careers have been destroyed, jobs lost, houses and families lost, etc with scant regard for decency or the merits or otherwise of our arguments. I doubt there's many of us that would want to find ourselves acting in that manner to those who dissent, having been on the receiving end of that treatment ourselves.
I'm not inferring that's how this person has been treated, know you guys are privy to far more info than I, but I just wanted to point that out. There are sometimes some really good discussions to come from respectful disagreement. Contemplating the nuances this sort of discourse raises, helps me form a more complete understanding.
Bottom line however, your sandpit, your rules and I respect that too.
I understand but this is not respectful disagreement, it's a paid operation. The guy or bot doesn't care anything about the subject - he's just being paid to push a false narrative, trying to manipulate the public. Steve Kirsch has lawyers, of course - the troll has no point.
People naturally assume that if they see something on twitter that it is real and represents a real person. Estimates vary but until twitter cleans up its act its possible 30% of users Are AI bots.
If someone robs your business and your insurance reimburses you, you are ok with the robber getting away with it? What do you think the robber will learn from that? If no one is held accountable for their malicious actions, what kind of world will we live in?
I don't typically go looking for the robber if I am reimbursed, but depending on the loss I might. I think its a cost-benefit analysis, how much time and effort to spend on finding and suing someone vs. doing something else.
If it's easy to track this guy down and there is a good case for defamation, then go for it.
So this doctor is back with his profile up and running on Twitter. Just in case everyone didn’t know. And he’s just as bad as ever if not worse.
Just to let you all know that a nearly identical profile showed up today on my Twitter page with almost the same handle, same biography attacking my brand of products and libeling my line and causing harm to my brand and committing defamation. I said I would have my lawyers subpoena that account tomorrow morning. And when somebody causes harm to the brand stating that we have artificial ingredients when we don’t, I do not mess around.
I said that I thought this Canuck troll account might be the account of somebody else. I did not say who. But I was thinking “ Jonathan Canuck md”
Within minutes they deleted their libelous tweets of which I have screenshots, went private, which is the MO for “Jonathan Canuck”.
And then I looked up Jonathan canuck to see that he’s back on Twitter and didn’t have me blocked.
But within minutes of me calling out the other account and not mentioning him ever , Canuck blocks me.
I think there is a 99.99999999999% probability they are the same person.
Just wanted to make you all aware.
The other account handle is CanuckDave34. Not to be confused with DrCanuckMD. Almost identical biographies in their profile, identical tweeting style etc.
I think I will just have my attorneys call his in the morning while we work on the subpoena because this is the monster that lied to his audience and encouraged them to mass report me and get me banned permanently. I was brought back by Elon Musk.
Why was I banned permanently? It’s on my Substack which I rarely post on but for using the word cretin in a sentence.
This bully and a liar will not continue to do this on my watch and certainly not under multiple accounts. Just wanted to make you aware.
Hi Steve, I think your focus on lawsuits undercuts the work you do. However righteous your suit, at first blush your suit and its tone come off as a rich person bullying people with his money.
But you are not the only skeptic I respect who seems -- in my eyes -- to overreact to criticism, so perhaps this is a failure of empathy on my part.
I realize you guys have had to deal with all sorts of idiotic and unfair attacks. Thanks for you work for us.
Steve, you realize you’ll need to prove in court that vaccines cause autism to win your case that you were defamed right? Unless you can show that you cannot show you were defamed. You know that right?
He was very prolific on Twitter. I had an interaction with him there, and he claimed to be ‘ukranian’. On another note, look how many Canadian doctors choose to be in USA. It just underscores how lousy their medical system is. I have family in BC and if you need a doctor there, care is horrendous. I hope you sue the pants off of this guy and he runs back to Canada.
another woke 'industrial/medical complex' captured by the obamacare system of medicine MD. All they care about is worshipping The Beast system of the WHO mindset while collecting bribery corrupting blood money to follow the 'one world agenda' that has captured medicine and thru obamacare tried to push out all dissident real caring doctors. While grooming these new woke idiots that were clearly 'outed' as to their true allegiences during covid firedrill for further destruction of integrity through the woke medical/corporate take-over of ppl's minds.
I’m on your side, but this looks like a little spat/debate that you won to me. His studies did not meet your prescribed standards. I’m not a lawyer but I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Suing people who debate with you will limit them from trying.
Steve, have you made much money with your bets yet?
Since I know you take dorzolamide for glaucoma, you might find this interesting--the hypothesis is that carbonic anhydrase inhibitors might be an antiaging medication:
Mitochondrial proteomic profiling reveals increased carbonic anhydrase II in aging and neurodegeneration
He's been outed. See the update at the start of the article. I know who he is.
Well done Steve!
We on. Looking forward to seeing if you can make anything stick. I have my doubts but the process alone may make him think twice in the future.
MAGA - Making Accountability Great Again :-)
*edit*
In reply to the person who keeps disappearing as I'm trying to reply, if they guy feels he has a case I urge him to bring it. Most of us over the last few years have seen how low standards slip when scrutiny and accountability are not valued. If outing the Dr is illegal then Steve will need to be accountable, just as if what that Dr was saying is defamatory then he needs to be accountable. Pretty simple concept really, don't you agree?
He's a professional troll using disposable email domains. His comments are instantaneously hidden, then removed and he's banned no matter what email he uses.
who is a pro troll?
Kevin Kurt. He's using a series of disposable email domains that trolls and spammers use.
(random generated letters)@anomgo.com (random generated letters)@anomgo.com (random generated letters)@anwarb.com (random generated letters)@anomgo.com (random generated letters)@anwarb.com (random generated letters)@anomgo.com (random generated letters)@aaorsi.com (random generated letters)@aaorsi.com so far.
First, who are you? You just joined yesterday. Are you Manns in disguise?
Second, I have a public duty to report him. That's the right thing to do.
And posting his name and work location is not doxxing. For example, Twitter rules do not consider name and work location doxxing. I checked with several lawyers to be sure.
I have a great deal of personal information on him and that is NOT posted publicly.
If he is in danger, I am not putting him in danger.
What he is doing is harming people. By revealing his identity, he disabled himself and people are not being attacked by that personna anymore.
I think that is a step forward, don't you? It is a net win for society.
And I never said he had a family. So you Nemie are doing the endangerment by revealing that detail. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Does he even have kids?
Where did he dox him?
Good to know, cheers.
*edit*
Just thinking about this a little more, why not let his posts stand or fall on their merits? I mean, in the post I was trying to reply to before it disappeared he mentioned doxing. It would seem to me Steve would have taken some advice on the legalities of exposing the person behind the username before doing so, and if that is indeed the case and doesn't weaken his case, then perhaps that's worth discussing?
Further, and this is something that's not easy to do, I hope we can be the change we want to see in the world around us. The last few years have been challenging for so many of us as we see people (mainly those who go against the official narrative) having their character assassinated, careers have been destroyed, jobs lost, houses and families lost, etc with scant regard for decency or the merits or otherwise of our arguments. I doubt there's many of us that would want to find ourselves acting in that manner to those who dissent, having been on the receiving end of that treatment ourselves.
I'm not inferring that's how this person has been treated, know you guys are privy to far more info than I, but I just wanted to point that out. There are sometimes some really good discussions to come from respectful disagreement. Contemplating the nuances this sort of discourse raises, helps me form a more complete understanding.
Bottom line however, your sandpit, your rules and I respect that too.
I understand but this is not respectful disagreement, it's a paid operation. The guy or bot doesn't care anything about the subject - he's just being paid to push a false narrative, trying to manipulate the public. Steve Kirsch has lawyers, of course - the troll has no point.
Excellent! Great job Steve!
He has deleted his Twitter account.
It appears that he has ghosted himself.
In the old days, they used to say, "coverup proves the crime." And, "its not the crime that gets you, its the coverup."
what do you bet he's on the payroll for NIH DOD etc...
People naturally assume that if they see something on twitter that it is real and represents a real person. Estimates vary but until twitter cleans up its act its possible 30% of users Are AI bots.
If you delete your Twitter account, it's an admission of failure - call it a win and move on.
If someone robs your business and your insurance reimburses you, you are ok with the robber getting away with it? What do you think the robber will learn from that? If no one is held accountable for their malicious actions, what kind of world will we live in?
San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles, etc.
I don't typically go looking for the robber if I am reimbursed, but depending on the loss I might. I think its a cost-benefit analysis, how much time and effort to spend on finding and suing someone vs. doing something else.
If it's easy to track this guy down and there is a good case for defamation, then go for it.
Ha
Well isn't that an admission of guilt.
Yessss
So this doctor is back with his profile up and running on Twitter. Just in case everyone didn’t know. And he’s just as bad as ever if not worse.
Just to let you all know that a nearly identical profile showed up today on my Twitter page with almost the same handle, same biography attacking my brand of products and libeling my line and causing harm to my brand and committing defamation. I said I would have my lawyers subpoena that account tomorrow morning. And when somebody causes harm to the brand stating that we have artificial ingredients when we don’t, I do not mess around.
I said that I thought this Canuck troll account might be the account of somebody else. I did not say who. But I was thinking “ Jonathan Canuck md”
Within minutes they deleted their libelous tweets of which I have screenshots, went private, which is the MO for “Jonathan Canuck”.
And then I looked up Jonathan canuck to see that he’s back on Twitter and didn’t have me blocked.
But within minutes of me calling out the other account and not mentioning him ever , Canuck blocks me.
I think there is a 99.99999999999% probability they are the same person.
Just wanted to make you all aware.
The other account handle is CanuckDave34. Not to be confused with DrCanuckMD. Almost identical biographies in their profile, identical tweeting style etc.
I think I will just have my attorneys call his in the morning while we work on the subpoena because this is the monster that lied to his audience and encouraged them to mass report me and get me banned permanently. I was brought back by Elon Musk.
Why was I banned permanently? It’s on my Substack which I rarely post on but for using the word cretin in a sentence.
This bully and a liar will not continue to do this on my watch and certainly not under multiple accounts. Just wanted to make you aware.
Hi Steve, I think your focus on lawsuits undercuts the work you do. However righteous your suit, at first blush your suit and its tone come off as a rich person bullying people with his money.
But you are not the only skeptic I respect who seems -- in my eyes -- to overreact to criticism, so perhaps this is a failure of empathy on my part.
I realize you guys have had to deal with all sorts of idiotic and unfair attacks. Thanks for you work for us.
Go get him Steve !!!
Steve - You have good ideas and a good team Great work here
Good on you Steve! you are the very best..!
Steve, you are my hero. God bless you
He appears to be a fool, and may be disingenuous.
Despite that, I'm very far from convinced that suing him for defamation achieves anything useful in terms of advancing the main cause here.
I would ignore this as a minor distraction and focus on your main goal.
Steve, you realize you’ll need to prove in court that vaccines cause autism to win your case that you were defamed right? Unless you can show that you cannot show you were defamed. You know that right?
He was very prolific on Twitter. I had an interaction with him there, and he claimed to be ‘ukranian’. On another note, look how many Canadian doctors choose to be in USA. It just underscores how lousy their medical system is. I have family in BC and if you need a doctor there, care is horrendous. I hope you sue the pants off of this guy and he runs back to Canada.
another woke 'industrial/medical complex' captured by the obamacare system of medicine MD. All they care about is worshipping The Beast system of the WHO mindset while collecting bribery corrupting blood money to follow the 'one world agenda' that has captured medicine and thru obamacare tried to push out all dissident real caring doctors. While grooming these new woke idiots that were clearly 'outed' as to their true allegiences during covid firedrill for further destruction of integrity through the woke medical/corporate take-over of ppl's minds.
I’m on your side, but this looks like a little spat/debate that you won to me. His studies did not meet your prescribed standards. I’m not a lawyer but I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Suing people who debate with you will limit them from trying.
Christian? Mmmmmm….
We should pray for him, though.
Steve, have you made much money with your bets yet?
Since I know you take dorzolamide for glaucoma, you might find this interesting--the hypothesis is that carbonic anhydrase inhibitors might be an antiaging medication:
Mitochondrial proteomic profiling reveals increased carbonic anhydrase II in aging and neurodegeneration
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5115898/
Thanks Steve. Fix his arse! Nail him to the wall for his inexcusable defamation.