Do you believe the URF to be uniform for all ages? While not detracting from the horror here, I wonder if it may be lower for young people, perhaps those events are more likely to garner a report as those deaths are more suprising.
The reports are followed up by the CDC and removed if found to be false. It asks for very detailed information.
As far a s evidence for underreporting, do you think every person in the US knows about VAERS? Does every doctor, nurse, pharmacist, or other medical worker know how to make a report in VAERS? Are they required to by law? If not, then there is definite underreporting.
Looking at it that way then there is definitely under reporting But it would be Massive under reporting since not everyone with an ailment places it in the file (non-medical people also enter whatever they want into the file)
At one time Leanna Win was a major critic of the health care system since it affected her mother in a negative way. Now, she sold her soul to the highest bidder.
Never mind the 1,000's of children who have perished over the last 40 years due to vaccinations that will never be traced back to those specific poisons. Their sad stories were never recorded by the corrupt VAERS system.
"How can USA Today print this stuff?" because they're a propaganda agency. You have to realize this is a coordinated propaganda campaign against the general public. Once you start looking at it as being propaganda it's easy to see it across the entire spectrum from local news (watch the compilation videos showing local anchors saying the exact same copy) to all mainstream news providers. It's a coordinated effort.
I can recall being part of the test group for USA Today back in the early 1980's before this paper became available. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but like 90% of media, has now become totally corrupted by commies.
Yuup. I had a friend that didn't believe TNI existed. It is looney tunes, but I think that that sort of thing is harder to get to work unlike prior to the internet. On the other hand, a "crisis" could be manufactured to turn off the internet. That would be pretty wild ride for a lot of us.
you cannot turn off the internet - it's not controlled inside the US or by the US. It's possible to hide parts of it from us - like they do in China - but the internet keeps on humming around us even though we might not see it.
IDK about these assumptions on the data from VAERS or about the reported dead. REAL data points would be great, eh??
That said, I can tell you from MN that we've only lost 7 kids under 18. Three were under 10 in 2020 and 4 have happened in the last couple months - all 15 year-olds.
Today's Breakthrough Data (as reported in my daily FB post on MN COVID https://www.facebook.com/jami.gaither/posts/2667547000055359) showed that, for the week of 11/6, Fully Vaccinated accounted for 57% of our dead. Last week, it was 52%. So not a good trend...
Though I'm a bit hopeful (tentatively) that we're seeing a reduction from the peak of Delta perhaps? November was striving for a death rate similar to that we saw in January 2021 and December is going for that as well... though perhaps we're losing less dead now than we were? Time will tell... so I'll keep an eye on it and keep on reporting every business day about what we're seeing.
Yeah. Losing a kid sucks. And I'm guessing the ONLY would be NO comfort to the families who've lost them.
I'm only reporting the data... and that "only" in the reporting was to illustrate, in comparison, how many might be affected with AEs from jabs, which seems to be a real possibility those who have not yet jabbed might want to consider.
i understand that. i respect people presenting facts. we need that. i think it could have been worded differently. i think its critical people to have all of the information to make an informed decision. not shooting the messenger. just thinking about the pain of losing a child. at any age. appreciate all efforts to get people see the dangers of accepting without knowing.
Steve - I agree these vaccines are dangerous and wholly unnecessary. However, I think you may not be restricting your numbers quite enough. Keep in mind that the vaccines were NOT available to everyone when they first rolled out, so the odds that anyone under 18 was getting vaxxed in the early months of 2021 seems astronomically low. I believe the staged rollouts hit different populations in different states at different times, which will make it difficult to find a good beginning point to count from. Perhaps when the 16-17 was announced as eligible by CDC?
Does not appear CDC database allows for parsing by year but perhaps one needs a login. The aggregates Jan20-Dec21 which may be reason for suspicion. Would seem Timing is a determinative factor to consider vaccine causation. Has anyone seen such data?
Is it possible that Original Antigenic Sin (which seems to work against adults with COVID, helping to explain why it is not severe in children) may also result in a lower rate of fatalities among children from the vaccines? You asked for a mechanism by which there could be a difference in susceptibility to adverse reactions to the vaccine in children compared to adults. Might this be it?
Family's agony as dad 'trapped in his own body' following rare reaction from Covid jab
John O’Neill, 42, from Essex, is 'trapped in his body' after being one in 50,000 to suffer an extreme reaction. His family say they aren't anti-vax and don't want their story to be hijacked for the campaign
This money grubbing scammer will never remove you from his email spam scam if he gets his greedy fingers on your email address.
If this guy gets a email they will never stop spamming you, never.
VAERS is BS. You are wrong and you should feel bad. LIAR
Good photo Steve; lovely caring hands and adorable plaster.
Do you believe the URF to be uniform for all ages? While not detracting from the horror here, I wonder if it may be lower for young people, perhaps those events are more likely to garner a report as those deaths are more suprising.
Don't know where the number "1,312 deaths" is get from. Thks
he takes the 32 "excess" deaths from the table and multiplies it by 41
I see. The VAERS under-reporting factor (URF) is 41X.
Many thanks, J Robino!
Sure. Not that there's any evidence for under reporting - especially since anyone can enter something into VAERS at any time.
The reports are followed up by the CDC and removed if found to be false. It asks for very detailed information.
As far a s evidence for underreporting, do you think every person in the US knows about VAERS? Does every doctor, nurse, pharmacist, or other medical worker know how to make a report in VAERS? Are they required to by law? If not, then there is definite underreporting.
Looking at it that way then there is definitely under reporting But it would be Massive under reporting since not everyone with an ailment places it in the file (non-medical people also enter whatever they want into the file)
How do you quantify that ?
Leana Wen did really good work during the Boston Bombing. I'm surprised she doesn't have an IMDB page though... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki5G-9q2_jQ
Just another coincidence if you know what I mean
At one time Leanna Win was a major critic of the health care system since it affected her mother in a negative way. Now, she sold her soul to the highest bidder.
Never mind the 1,000's of children who have perished over the last 40 years due to vaccinations that will never be traced back to those specific poisons. Their sad stories were never recorded by the corrupt VAERS system.
"How can USA Today print this stuff?" because they're a propaganda agency. You have to realize this is a coordinated propaganda campaign against the general public. Once you start looking at it as being propaganda it's easy to see it across the entire spectrum from local news (watch the compilation videos showing local anchors saying the exact same copy) to all mainstream news providers. It's a coordinated effort.
I can recall being part of the test group for USA Today back in the early 1980's before this paper became available. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but like 90% of media, has now become totally corrupted by commies.
Trusted News Initiative.
Yuup. I had a friend that didn't believe TNI existed. It is looney tunes, but I think that that sort of thing is harder to get to work unlike prior to the internet. On the other hand, a "crisis" could be manufactured to turn off the internet. That would be pretty wild ride for a lot of us.
you cannot turn off the internet - it's not controlled inside the US or by the US. It's possible to hide parts of it from us - like they do in China - but the internet keeps on humming around us even though we might not see it.
IDK about these assumptions on the data from VAERS or about the reported dead. REAL data points would be great, eh??
That said, I can tell you from MN that we've only lost 7 kids under 18. Three were under 10 in 2020 and 4 have happened in the last couple months - all 15 year-olds.
Today's Breakthrough Data (as reported in my daily FB post on MN COVID https://www.facebook.com/jami.gaither/posts/2667547000055359) showed that, for the week of 11/6, Fully Vaccinated accounted for 57% of our dead. Last week, it was 52%. So not a good trend...
Though I'm a bit hopeful (tentatively) that we're seeing a reduction from the peak of Delta perhaps? November was striving for a death rate similar to that we saw in January 2021 and December is going for that as well... though perhaps we're losing less dead now than we were? Time will tell... so I'll keep an eye on it and keep on reporting every business day about what we're seeing.
only. lost.7.kids.
sure that is a great comfort to the families
point here there is a lot of data. parents especially need to do their homework
stand up for your children. because no one else is.
many times the greater good is really the greater evil.
only 7 -:(
Yeah. Losing a kid sucks. And I'm guessing the ONLY would be NO comfort to the families who've lost them.
I'm only reporting the data... and that "only" in the reporting was to illustrate, in comparison, how many might be affected with AEs from jabs, which seems to be a real possibility those who have not yet jabbed might want to consider.
i understand that. i respect people presenting facts. we need that. i think it could have been worded differently. i think its critical people to have all of the information to make an informed decision. not shooting the messenger. just thinking about the pain of losing a child. at any age. appreciate all efforts to get people see the dangers of accepting without knowing.
Just and Only comparisons can be difficult. Yes. I agree. Not sure how to explain it without using these types of words to show comparisons.
Suggestions?
Steve - I agree these vaccines are dangerous and wholly unnecessary. However, I think you may not be restricting your numbers quite enough. Keep in mind that the vaccines were NOT available to everyone when they first rolled out, so the odds that anyone under 18 was getting vaxxed in the early months of 2021 seems astronomically low. I believe the staged rollouts hit different populations in different states at different times, which will make it difficult to find a good beginning point to count from. Perhaps when the 16-17 was announced as eligible by CDC?
Does not appear CDC database allows for parsing by year but perhaps one needs a login. The aggregates Jan20-Dec21 which may be reason for suspicion. Would seem Timing is a determinative factor to consider vaccine causation. Has anyone seen such data?
Is it possible that Original Antigenic Sin (which seems to work against adults with COVID, helping to explain why it is not severe in children) may also result in a lower rate of fatalities among children from the vaccines? You asked for a mechanism by which there could be a difference in susceptibility to adverse reactions to the vaccine in children compared to adults. Might this be it?
Crows Top-up Player Diagnosed With Heart Condition After COVID Jab
https://t.me/s/covidvaccineinjuries
https://www.fiveaa.com.au/show/rowey-s-sports-show/crows-top-up-player-diagnosed-with-heart-condition-after-covid-jab-reports-rowey/
Family's agony as dad 'trapped in his own body' following rare reaction from Covid jab
John O’Neill, 42, from Essex, is 'trapped in his body' after being one in 50,000 to suffer an extreme reaction. His family say they aren't anti-vax and don't want their story to be hijacked for the campaign
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/familys-agony-dad-trapped-body-25681253