VSRF LIVE Tonight - I Debate Dr. Andrew Kaufman, M.D. about the Existence of the COVID 19 Virus
Thursday, June 13th: 7pm Eastern | 4pm Pacific
You can watch the debate here:
The aftermath
I joined a space on X to discuss the debate afterwards. There were 170 people in the room, and I’d guess half the people were pro-vax, half anti-vax. We asked if there was anyone who agreed with Dr. Kaufman. No takers. I’ll just leave it at that. I was not persuaded by any of his arguments and apparently the reverse was true.
The answer to the question “how do you know it is a virus” which I didn’t give in the video is “because it looks like a virus to anyone skilled in the field.” It’s like asking a vet “Is this a dog or a cat?” The vet examines your pet and can tell you based on their experience whether your pet is a dog or a cat. It’s the same way with nucleotide sequences (which look like greek to most people).
The promo
I have been waiting for MONTHS for this show! On tonight’s VSRF Live, I get to debate with psychiatrist and molecular biologist Dr. Andrew Kaufman, M.D. who has risen to fame during the pandemic for his unorthodox views on the existence, or rather non-existence, of viruses and germs in general, and the COVID19 virus, specifically.
While Dr. Kaufman and I agree on some things, such as the inherent dangers of the experimental C19 vaccines and uselessness of masking during the pandemic, we could not be more different in our views about the validity of germ theory vs. terrain theory.
Kaufman, an MIT trained scientist and Duke University trained psychiatrist, has expertise in analyzing scientific papers, data and general published studies. He believes that the traditional acceptance of germ theory since the late 1800s is not scientifically based but is rather fraught with contradictions, various conflicts of interest and fraudulent claims. Conversely, Kaufman supports the more broadly defined "terrain theory" which promotes the belief that lifestyle choices alone force otherwise benevolent microbes to transform into pathogens; i.e. the body’s “terrain,” not germs, creates disease. These beliefs made Dr. Kaufman an early rejector of masks and COVID 19 vaccines and the subsequent attacks on our civil liberties, which the widespread societal acceptance of germ theory allowed.
I will discuss a wide range of topics with Dr. Kaufman in greater detail during the show so you can decide for yourself which hypotheses are the most likely.
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I would love to see a poll with three options:
1. Virus exists.
2. Virus does not exist.
3. Don't care if virus exists or not.
I'm glad that here in Steve Kirsch Newsletter, virus, no-virus and don't care people can agree to disagree on this issue to focus on things we do agree on. Now we can finally have a civil discussion on the matter!
Support the terrain theory 100%. Didn’t used to. It isn’t just eating healthy, sanitation, pure water, we are affected by EMFs, and 5G exposure has the same symptoms as the phantom CV-19. Also, our food is polluted with pesticides and herbicides, chemtrails, pollution in the water from run off that helps the food grow, animals are full of vaccines and antibiotics. It isn’t just Dr. Kaufman. Drs. Sam and Mark Bailey, Dr. Tom Cowan, PhD in virology Stefan Lanka, Dr. Robert O. Young, Dr. Christine Massey, who has sent FOIAs to many health institutes asking for examples and proof that viruses have been isolated purely without mixing with monkey kidney cells or fetal bovine cells etc., without centrifuging them, just a swab and a sample from an infected person, animal etc. The response is often slow to come and each one seems to come back with, “we don’t have that information.” Have you watched The Viral Delusion? Have you read The Contagion Theory, have you watched Murder By Mouth. Have you read The Poison Needle by Eleanor McBean from 1957? Natural health practices worked fine until til Rockefeller decided to monopolize the medical schools, only donating to them whilst smearing natural practices. Allopathic medic got his donations, whilst natural medicine was considered quackery thanks to him. Before that it worked quite well.