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Olle Durks's avatar

Newsflash: Steve Kirsch yesterday forced Grok into submission in a tense fight over the effectiveness of covid vaccines. The victory came in the thirtieth round.

Deep Dive's avatar

Steve,

Good point about looking at the two kinds of situations, Low-COVID vs. High-COVID. When data from two Czech health insurance companies on 2.2 million persons were studied, the relative increase from low-to-high in the fully-dosed persons of age 60 or greater was 5x what it was for those who remained unjabbed. Even the absolute increase in death was higher with the shots.

[ https://deepd1ve.substack.com/p/5x-more-likely-to-die-eg-covid-shots ]

jollyrotter's avatar

Naturally there is a concurrent push to censor any independent location where such information can be shared. It's the "blob" saying "Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhush"! 😅

RLM's avatar

The readers here will be interested in this comment from today's WSJ on growing public hostility to AI: 'Dylan Patel, CEO of AI-infrastructure consulting firm SemiAnalysis, recently predicted there would be large-scale protests against OpenAI and Anthropic within a few months. “People hate AI. AI is less popular than ICE. AI is less popular than politicians,” he said on a podcast.'

Pretty unpopular, then.

Randall Wadsworth's avatar

Once again Steve Kirsch has prevailed over another Covid vaccine nonsense misinformation spreader. You are the best debunker against other scientists, medical people, and AI. I am relieved and glad to be on your side of the Covid argument.

Joe's avatar

Dr. Luc Montagnier said just after the Covid vaccine was released in Dec 2020, and he had time to look at it, that one year from now ( end 2021) young people will drop dead from heart attacks and strokes due to micro blood clotting. The MSM immediately went to work on him, on orders from Fauci and the CDC ) (I assume), to call him a science denier, vaccine sceptic and just an old fool . Who was dr. Montagnier...he was awarded the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2008 for his work on the HIV virus. I'll submit that he knew a helluva lot about virusses and vaccines. That was the moment I start to consider giving the so called vaccine a miss, and I eventually did. In the mean time my family and friends who did not heed my call are sick all the time.

RLM's avatar

The articles attacking him are all you can find. No one ever answers the question: why would he have maintained that the virus was engineered if it wasn't obvious? What possible benefit would accrue to an octogenarian scientist? I've often wondered why Montagnier died so suddenly, no news of the cause, after all of his anti-covid appearances in Europe. Yes, he was old, but even old people die because of something. The silence is deafening.

DBC's avatar

Steve - a category worth noting; Killed by the response protocol of ventilators and Remdesivir. It killed a friend in a SC kill hospital in N. Charleston. Get deep into the ICU, and they removed any efforts for alt treatments to get ivermectin, HCQ or antibodies.

Remdesivir killed how many in the 2015 Ebola trials? 25% or so - they tossed it out of the study. Got it ready for the covid de-pop program. Unacceptable.

Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Don't know if you saw it, but Steve Kirsch has done some searing interviews for VSRF with people who lost a loved one to the covid hospital protocols (which included Remdesivir)

Full Episode #38: The Tragedy of Remdesivir"

Vaccine Safety Research Foundation

Livestream, July 14, 2022

https://rumble.com/v1ccagb-full-episode-38-the-tragedy-of-remdesivir.html

Thomas Marsh's avatar

The early dog deaths told them what was going to happen but faucci closed his eyes as did big pharma , kept the data from the public and then sold it as the best thing since sliced bread….and safe for pregnant mothers. They all should be arrested and treated as the leftees treated J6ers for theirs are real crimes against humanity.

Snork's avatar

Grok and other AI seem to have a huge appeal to authority at a minimum, if not specifically programmed to discard negative vaccine efficacy.

Chris Mayou's avatar

Your tenacity is so admirable, Steve!!!!

John Roberts's avatar

Even AI wants to hide the truth !!!

Imagine that.

RLM's avatar

AI is coded by programmers, most of whom are required to be leftists to fit in with the rest of the geeks. AI is not artificial -- it makes all its collection, analysis, etc. on the basis of those coding instructions. So of course it wants to hide the truth if the topic is something the dictatorship crowd wants to suppress.

Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

There are many doctors like this, sad to say. Sadder still for their patients.

Gary Haig's avatar

I’ve had my share of arguments with Grok’s conclusions. The last one basically told me i couldn’t medically prove (through DSM-5 and other sources) that TDS was a human emotional or mental disorder, to which i responded that because Grok was not human, it had no gut instincts, empathy, intuition, emotions, etc, which it then admitted were true, however it still argued against TDS being a real human disorder with a clear grouping of symptoms (i then pointed out quick to anger/rage, intense directed hatred, name-calling, smears, cognitive dissonance, fomenting violent thoughts or behavior, etc), but according to Grok, there is no credible professionally accredited proof that something that can be called TDS exists.

So . . . if we all have to wait for WOKE psychologists, medical doctors, and MSM to confirm the existence of TDS, then Grok and AI generally may turn out to become a major weapon of the WOKE cohort against GOD’s creation of that blend of Human intelligence, imagination, empathy, common sense, curiosity, emotion, and pattern recognition/reasoning that we call Human Intuition.

And if we Humans buy into AI as our Supreme Intelligence, then G-d is dead and there will be no more Newtons, Galileo’s, or Einsteins.

i am steadfast in my belief of Divinity, so therefore will no longer fear AI, but will understand it as a wonderful, but “hubristically” flawed tool to be used for my convenience and knowledge gathering, but never for my Spiritual guidance.

George Sirianni's avatar

so twice as many vaccinated people died from Covid then unvaccinated from 2021 through 2023

George Sirianni's avatar

Steve here in a few use the CDC data starting in 2021 after the vaccines were rolled out there were 470,000 deaths in 21 about 260,000 in 2022 and about 80,000 in 2023. I've seen a couple of studies somewhere on the CDC site there was an estimate that every if everybody had gotten vaccinated during the pandemic it would've saved about 250,000 lives. So basically about 250,000 of those 800,000 deaths were unvaccinated not very much of a pandemic of the unvaccinated was it? But that tells us that over 500,000 vaccinated people died in 21, 22 and 23!