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Steve Kirsch's avatar

If you think there was a meeting of the minds, please reply to this PINNED tweet with the three items requested in the body of the text.

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The Underdog's avatar

Hi Kirsch,

Did you see what happened when the anti-Kirsch debate team tried to set their sights on me instead?

They also didn't get past the 'what format should the debate be in' (and the part it died on was me asking to confirm I had the specialities right):

https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/i/128441556/the-anti-kirsch-debate-team-bails-last-minute

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Jeff burt's avatar

No surprise, nothing new. the “fact checkers” have been lying about Stefan lanka’s court “debate” for years now. It’s nothing new unfortunately. But yeah, please set the record straight for yourself, and for lanka too while your at it. Can you do that Steve?

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Dag Waddell's avatar

Why don't people just point to the Pfizer phase 3 clinical trial which shows more harm than good. The trial showed that the covid shot reduced cases of symptomatic COVID sickness: on the shot side 8 cases / 18198 participants verse placebo 162 cases / 18325 participants. But all cause mortality was 15 on the shot side and 14 on the placebo side when they unblinded the study. But in the Pfizer document to the FDA it shows after the unblinding that 5 more died: 3 more on the shot side, and 2 on the placebo side after they had been unblinded and vaccinated. From the clinical trial how do you conclude that the shot would save more people than it killed? Historically, to make a case that a drug would perform differently in the population than in the trial you would have a very big task to prove that. Until studies are completed to show the clinical trial is wrong, it has to be the bar of what to expect which is, the shots kill more people than they save.

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HardeeHo's avatar

Debate is trivial but good attention grabber I suspect. OTOH, many can't read so must have 20 sec video. Good we have various SubStack writers to present their case. Note the advocates of vaccination seem to have no readers or comments.

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robert's avatar

The MD degree thing confuses people. For instance, I have yet to meet a physicist that claims to be an expert in biology. I have yet to meet a biologist that claims to be an expert in physics. I have yet to meet an engineer that claims to be an expert in psychology. But then you have people like Dr. Avi a skin doctor that has an MD and thinks he is an expert in covid and vaccines?

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robert's avatar

Dr Avi is a dermatologist, and they serve a function in society. But paramedics, Icu nurses, and real doctors and scientists know way more about covid and vaccines than this loser. He is just another troll and attention seeking narcissist that says- Look at me I have an MD and know about everything. He knows nothing.

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Gary's avatar

In 2021 I was working with a doctor in private practice, and we were approached by reps from Pfizer and Moderna. Both were young pretty females. Our practice had nothing to do with covid. The reps promised us big $$$ to push covid shots. My boss and me are both ex-military. He said to the rep -how is this even legal? What if someone dies from a covid shot. The rep said you will be protected. My boss kicked her out of the office.

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HardeeHo's avatar

" young pretty females"

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Another Mouse's avatar

Dr. Avi behaves truly as a bitter man.

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robert's avatar

He is not bitter just well paid to lie.

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Gary's avatar

Ignore Avi, he is a dermatologist that knows nothing about virology or immunology. I don't care if he has an MD. He is on the payroll of the vaccine companies and paid to lie to us. As an army medic I treated people that had life threatening injuries. Dr. Avi could not even come close to doing what I did and he would pee his pants in a combat situation. I have no respect for him. He should just go back to treating acne and skin cancer and taking more money from big pharma.

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Overcomer's avatar

Follow the $$$$$.

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Linda's avatar

We know why so many doctors won't admit the dangers...

https://archive.is/sRn81

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Gary's avatar

This was happening in many states. Hard to accept the pure evil of physicians that used these toxic injections for personal profit.

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Rich Ridler's avatar

This just proves that you just can’t discuss anything with a liberal! They”l Always change details because they know their view is completely absurd. Reality is dangerous to them. All I know is I for one would Never go to a Physician who makes lite of their Hippocratic oath! He’s an example why there are so many deaths from this non-vaccine vaccine. Keep up your great work!

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Being a Nancy's avatar

Avi has conducted himself like someone who is out of his league.

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robert's avatar

I will take him on. He treats acne. I operate on people and save lives. Avi is a joke of a doctor. The nurses that work with me are way smarter and competent than avi.

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Where, beforethey shorten, can one find the most attractive odds on RFK Jr for next POTUS?

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Thomas Lewis's avatar

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I've Come To The Conclusion

Ex Post Facto

That The Vaccinated People

Are Exactly The People

That I Would Have Wanted To Take It.

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Gary's avatar

Covid is due to mass insanity. Tell me this does not help you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utdKjUZz-o0

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Alex #DoNotComply's avatar

Whatever benefits vs risk ratio, the intervention never should be mandated. Otherwise it's nothing else but nazi experiments

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Baldmichael's avatar

Avi Bitterman seems to love vaccines as 'great technology'. He is vegan, yet seems ok with sticking toxic substances into people and presumably himself. I found this.

Vegan Doctor vs Vaccine Skeptic: COVID-19 Chat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gMnFfk-wzQ

I haven't tried listening to the whole thing but at around 51 mins and after he says 'I don't care about your own decision' in relation to vaccine choice. He is happy with skepticism but wants it to be logical and consistent.

Well, should Avi ever read this here's the thing; all vaccines are shit and always have been. I won't have shit stuck into my body. I hope that' clear and consistent Avi.

And please don't be a A. Bitterman about it. Thank you.

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Gary's avatar

Vegan men have very low testosterone levels and high estrogen levels. This profoundly lowers their cognitive function. As a male you have a right to be vegan but after a while you are not a man. Biologically, men should eat meat. In the US a lot of the meat sucks. My buddy hunts elk and I eat it, I also eat wild salmon, and bison.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Thanks for the info Gary. I am not a huge meat eater but my wife and I eat it in moderation. You are quite right about US meat although I can only say this as an observer from UK. I like pork but bacon gets poisoned by sodium nitrite (E250). It was the initial cause of my facial palsy which I still have.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/sodium-nitrite-e250-the-poison-in

We buy organic raised meat as far as possible and are now very careful about processed meats.

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