I did manage to say my peace and the fella that said donating blood was helping him has simply stopped talking about that. Some folks there did support my view, that if donating that 'bad' blood helps you, even temporarily, than you gotta question the wisdom of sharing that blood. The forum fella was told by the bloodbank that everything is A-OK regarding this. I say no way.
This is the way they infect the rest of us with this multiple poison jab.
Does anyone else feel this is a deadly race between full public exposure and understanding of intentional vaccine damage and the attempts by the elite to vaccinate (exterminate) most of the world? It's like Logan's Run crossed with Dr. Strangelove. I seriously consider that the Nazis never lost WW2, they realized the only way to spread their ideology globally was to surrender and then integrate. Maybe explains why they attacked Russia...
• Anyone raised in any societal structure or culture has to die.
• Artificial wombs have been around for a while, so a new population devoid of today’s societies and cultures can be grown as slaves and sequestered and probably already have been.
I was trying to figure out who might be left from these COVID shots and neurotoxicities. The most obvious answer is ‘no one.’ Chemtrails and toxic foods and items will wipe everyone out.
Here is an article from over 21 Years ago showing billionaires were actively discussing depopulation in meetings together. This is not about any vaccination--it's about depopulation. [panicking here]
Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation May 24, 2009 The Sunday Times
The depopulation agenda is hiding in plain sight; most people ignore it because it is too terrifying. But nothing fits the facts better. What is going on cannot be explained as just an attempt to pump up the stock value of Pfizer. And if this is really about a virus, the debate would be over. Alex Berenson, who has done great work, seems to think this really is about a virus, and consequently he has said that the battle is over numerous times; his ability to predict the future is worse than Jean Dixon's.
I am near 60 and my entire life I have heard of the scourge of overpopulation and the need to do something about it. The earliest I can remember is as a child at the Toronto Science Center. They have been preparing this for well over half a century. Do not just focus on Bill Gates; focus on Bill Gates' parents.
Jean Dixon? I haven't even had to walk into a grocery store since January 2021. Why? Jean Dixon ain't got nothing on me.
In 2018, I experienced writer's block. I decided to avail myself of psychology to break it.
I told the psychologist:
“So in the summer of 2018, I sat in an office with a woman who I knew thought I was crazy, telling her the economy would crash, the streets would be empty, and forced mandatory vaccination was on the horizon.”
And I told Juan that when he started his stint at the police academy:
“A youngish man, Juan, was entering a police academy. I told him what we were seeing around us was no more than window dressing—that after going into the police academy things would happen and he would be asked to do terrible things. He looked at me—horrified—said he would refuse. I said,
Ok so the comment by Steve's friend has been deleted. I posted it again. Australian Red Cross Lifeblood says they will continue deleting all the "misinformation". Bastards
I suppose they eventually deleted by link to byram bridle's presentation on how the garbage in the vaccine gets into the blood and body organs.
Just keep blasting away till they block you then move to another FB and start all over
BTW - I got ad rates for a couple of MSM in the otago region today - asked them if they'd publish the myocarditis chart... they asked for the source - I said CDC... with link to the data... asked why I am doing this ... I said to let people know about the risk...
So far nothing back... no way they will allow this
The Queenstown team have forwarded your ad campaign strategy through to me. Have had a look at it and decided we won't be running it in that form there are simply too many bows being drawn here whether we believe the figures or not and that is our right as the Publisher. You should feel free to contact other publishers in the area and we wish you well.
Microsoft bought archive.org in 2016. So Microsoft has a database of all websites in the internet. Even if you block the archive bot for your site, if someone links your article in theirs, that link gets an archive.org designation. All Microsoft has to do to shut down anything they don’t want is to do a keyword search and push a button. And I would think they definitely don’t want the truth about any of the shots out there on the internet:
Bill Gates On ‘Vaccines To Reduce Population’ – F. William Engdahl—Posted on March 6, 2010 by sakerfa
Looks like the current agenda is to create new fear about "new resistant strains" supposedly found in South Africa. Coincidently, where ivermectin has proven effective. They can't afford to let that fact go unchallenged.
Nice Manu. Both points continue to solidify my reasons for not trusting health care. I’m done. No more. I’ll kick when I kick but no more doctors for me.
Maybe you should ask the Australian RedCross Lifeblood if they sell the donated blood. Often there is a clause hidden in the consent forms, but most people either don't read it or understand it means their blood/plasma can be sold to drug companies who then profit from it.
I'd suggest that this is why they aren't as picky as they ought to be about mRNA contaminated blood.
and now this. I'm upset. WHO says it's time to talk about mandatory vaccines. How's that gonna happen? For the whole world?? What about India, and Africa, and other places that are doing OK without?? Seems like prepping for a new phase of 'normalcy' https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-who-says-its-time-to-discuss
Results: after vaccination, 8 individuals had blood carrying lipid vesicles of spike protein (they call them exosomes). This means that the cells that took up the mRNA made lots of spike protein for weeks, and then blebbed off spike into the bloodstream to be carried in these lipid vesicles. These vesicles were still present (albeit at lower levels) four months after vaccination.
The authors found that they could inject these exosomes into mice and the mice would make antibodies to spike, as well as activate T cell immunity.
My questions after reading this article -
1) do people naturally infected make these exosomes filled with spike? The authors may answer this "yes" because they cited 3 articles (some by them) that claim these exosomes are a common feature of our immune response to respiratory viruses. I should read these other articles next.
1B) if naturally infected have these exosomes, is there a difference in what is carried in them? - for example, is it a piece of spike, all of spike, or some other contents - and are they embedded in the membrane in a similar manner? In other words, how much would this mimic our natural response?
2) is the timeframe for these exosomes to be circulating the same for vaxxed and naturally infected?
I read the article and my impression was that natural infection would have a similar mechanism of exosome production, but the exosomes wouldn’t just have spike protein components, they’d have all the other pieces and parts of the whole virus ( hence, producing much broader and more complete immunity).
A good little review or primer on this stuff is here:
I’ve always thought that the mRNA vaccines didn’t really mimic our natural response because they only offer one part of the virus—the spike protein—and they don’t enter the body via the respiratory epithelial surfaces, that have the normal processing of a respiratory pathogen.
Thank you! I will read that article you linked. I am currently working my way through this article, which supports exactly what you were saying about what is in the exosomes of the naturally infected:
Sort of going a different direction, since the exosomes are features of natural and vaccine immunity, what is your personal theory as to the greater incidence of myocarditis and other cardiac or clotting issues from vaccination (if you believe that to be true - I do at this point)?
My gut reaction to the myocarditis issue has to do with bypassing the normal epithelial tract ingress for the virus.
We’re jabbing vaccine into the muscle and some vaccine is certainly going intravascular—maybe more so in young, healthy boys and athletes with increased vascular it’s due to their fitness. It’s been shown that intravascular vaccine injection in mice is associated with myocarditis.
So perhaps, since the exosomes carry not only viral components but also host material, we could be producing an autoimmune response with the myocardial and/or pericardial tissue as part of the antigen target.
My guess is that the best avenue for vaccination is a more whole-virus vaccine administered via nasal spray. But that, of course, ignores the question of whether you should vaccinate low risk people anyway. I think natural immunity—if you survive the natural infection—is the way to go. And it’s criminal that the totalitariate keeps early prophylaxis and treatment (I.e., IVM or HCQ) away from the people. How many deaths could have been prevented?
A lot of people seem prepared to discuss depopulation and even admit that is has a several hundred year old history (maybe even older) but then still discuss vaccination as if the two things are not related.
I think JFK Jr says 300,000 in his book, but I’m sure it could be way more.
One problem in trying to calculate a number is the false number of COVID deaths to begin with, due to mischaracterizing COD on death certificates and the false-positive PCR tests due to use of high repetition counts, etc.
I was actually thinking about the false numbers as I answered. Who the heck knows? Birx mess that up in March 2020 when they said to could everything. I screenshot the order and it was stunningly wrong to me at the time.
We had the same discussion in this household. One can store your own blood, at a cost, but it has to be a frequent self-donation. Agreed, the toxic spike blood is troublesome. Unless one is getting a transfusion, or gets in a terrible accident, the amount of toxic garbage in a pint, would be limited in its effects, would it not?
It’s different here in the US. When I donated (NI/unvaxed) they deferred other donors who had been vaxed within the past 8 weeks.
The explanation they gave is the mRNA and its synthesized spikes can remain in the body for 6 weeks. Makes sense, as the ALC-0315 LNP has shown up in the liver at that point.
What the heck? I looked up that article that Manu cited. That is weird. I am a physiologist and I don't understand what this means - circulating exosomes with spike protein? That sounds terrifyingly like the host cells make tons of spike and then bleb it off to circulate around the body? Like I have NOT heard of this mechanism with these vaxxes up to this point. I need to read this paper. It's new this month apparently.
That's another example of the global censorship. Dr Robert Malone was talking about that paper months ago and read (possibly a preprint) just after he mentioned it in the interview. In my opinion it offers an explanation as to Beuchamp's terrain theory's logic.
I think you are remembering discussions of the lipid nanoparticle of the vaccine going all over and even preferentially getting into the ovaries and bone marrow. This is different. This is after the vaccine has caused some protein to be produced and then it gets sent around the body in lipid vesicles.
Jim - I posted a new comment after I read the article. Apparently these exosomes are incredibly common in viral infections - I just was totally unaware of this. I've been enjoying my reading this morning.
Exact same thing happened to me, on the Vestibular Covid forum here-
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/paged/691/#post-15603
but
I did manage to say my peace and the fella that said donating blood was helping him has simply stopped talking about that. Some folks there did support my view, that if donating that 'bad' blood helps you, even temporarily, than you gotta question the wisdom of sharing that blood. The forum fella was told by the bloodbank that everything is A-OK regarding this. I say no way.
This is the way they infect the rest of us with this multiple poison jab.
Does anyone else feel this is a deadly race between full public exposure and understanding of intentional vaccine damage and the attempts by the elite to vaccinate (exterminate) most of the world? It's like Logan's Run crossed with Dr. Strangelove. I seriously consider that the Nazis never lost WW2, they realized the only way to spread their ideology globally was to surrender and then integrate. Maybe explains why they attacked Russia...
This has been planned for decades.
• Anyone raised in any societal structure or culture has to die.
• Artificial wombs have been around for a while, so a new population devoid of today’s societies and cultures can be grown as slaves and sequestered and probably already have been.
I was trying to figure out who might be left from these COVID shots and neurotoxicities. The most obvious answer is ‘no one.’ Chemtrails and toxic foods and items will wipe everyone out.
n'est-ce pas?
Here is an article from over 21 Years ago showing billionaires were actively discussing depopulation in meetings together. This is not about any vaccination--it's about depopulation. [panicking here]
Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation May 24, 2009 The Sunday Times
https://joyce-bowen.blog/2021/11/26/billionaire-club-in-bid-to-curb-overpopulation-may-24-2009-the-sunday-times/
The depopulation agenda is hiding in plain sight; most people ignore it because it is too terrifying. But nothing fits the facts better. What is going on cannot be explained as just an attempt to pump up the stock value of Pfizer. And if this is really about a virus, the debate would be over. Alex Berenson, who has done great work, seems to think this really is about a virus, and consequently he has said that the battle is over numerous times; his ability to predict the future is worse than Jean Dixon's.
I am near 60 and my entire life I have heard of the scourge of overpopulation and the need to do something about it. The earliest I can remember is as a child at the Toronto Science Center. They have been preparing this for well over half a century. Do not just focus on Bill Gates; focus on Bill Gates' parents.
Jean Dixon? I haven't even had to walk into a grocery store since January 2021. Why? Jean Dixon ain't got nothing on me.
In 2018, I experienced writer's block. I decided to avail myself of psychology to break it.
I told the psychologist:
“So in the summer of 2018, I sat in an office with a woman who I knew thought I was crazy, telling her the economy would crash, the streets would be empty, and forced mandatory vaccination was on the horizon.”
And I told Juan that when he started his stint at the police academy:
“A youngish man, Juan, was entering a police academy. I told him what we were seeing around us was no more than window dressing—that after going into the police academy things would happen and he would be asked to do terrible things. He looked at me—horrified—said he would refuse. I said,
“No you won’t if you want to keep your job.””
Source:
The Psychologist
https://joyce-bowen.blog/2021/05/05/the-psychologist/
And it's all a matter of record.
Just call me Spooky. This ain’t about no virus.
By the way—have you heard the one about graphene ribbons?
Ok so the comment by Steve's friend has been deleted. I posted it again. Australian Red Cross Lifeblood says they will continue deleting all the "misinformation". Bastards
I suppose they eventually deleted by link to byram bridle's presentation on how the garbage in the vaccine gets into the blood and body organs.
Just keep blasting away till they block you then move to another FB and start all over
BTW - I got ad rates for a couple of MSM in the otago region today - asked them if they'd publish the myocarditis chart... they asked for the source - I said CDC... with link to the data... asked why I am doing this ... I said to let people know about the risk...
So far nothing back... no way they will allow this
As expected:
The Queenstown team have forwarded your ad campaign strategy through to me. Have had a look at it and decided we won't be running it in that form there are simply too many bows being drawn here whether we believe the figures or not and that is our right as the Publisher. You should feel free to contact other publishers in the area and we wish you well.
It gets worse. I am already off multiple platforms and never post on Facebook. Facebook claims copyright on whatever you post.
WHO says it’s ‘time’ for conversation on mandatory COVID-19 vaccines
https://www.thechestnutpost.com/news/who-says-its-time-for-conversation-on-mandatory-covid-19-vaccines/
This was always going to happen. I’ve been fighting this for almost 4 years. The ACLU hung up on me the last few times I called.
How The American Civil Liberties Union [ACLU] no longer Protects the American Citizen
https://joyce-bowen.blog/2021/08/02/how-the-american-civil-liberties-union-aclu-no-longer-protects-the-american-citizen/
Government offices hang up, too.
Watch for it—they will deploy the military to give the shots. They have already been force-vaccinating people around the world.
FORCED VACCINATION OF OLD LADY IN KASHMIR
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5IKDFbc8kho0/
FORCED VACCINATIONS IN BRAZIL, INDIA, GERMANY, ARGENTINA AND AMERICA. INCLUDES COVID AND NON-COVID.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ekac4Xni9AuN/
The people running the WHO are criminals.
The REAL Crime of the Century
https://joyce-bowen.blog/2021/09/25/the-crime-of-the-century/
Microsoft bought archive.org in 2016. So Microsoft has a database of all websites in the internet. Even if you block the archive bot for your site, if someone links your article in theirs, that link gets an archive.org designation. All Microsoft has to do to shut down anything they don’t want is to do a keyword search and push a button. And I would think they definitely don’t want the truth about any of the shots out there on the internet:
Bill Gates On ‘Vaccines To Reduce Population’ – F. William Engdahl—Posted on March 6, 2010 by sakerfa
https://joyce-bowen.blog/2021/07/17/bill-gates-on-vaccines-to-reduce-population-f-william-engdahl-posted-on-march-6-2010-by-sakerfa/
and they have been perfectly implementing this plan for the last half-decade. The Social Credit system is in the shots.
COVID Struxnet Program malware code line: Let's talk about Measles and Implementing the US's Social Credit System
https://joyce-bowen.blog/2021/11/23/covid-struknet-program-malware-code-line-lets-talk-about-measles-and-implementing-the-uss-social-credit-system/
I won’t be taking part. I just got much of my health back. I will depart with what I have left. I'm still dying from the shots I had.
Please write whatever you can to get the word out.
You have great and sobering stuff on your site. Are you still posting here -or did you have to pause because of your health? Good writing.
I put most of my work here:
https://joyce-bowen.blog
I will lose computer access so read away
Wow.
Looks like the current agenda is to create new fear about "new resistant strains" supposedly found in South Africa. Coincidently, where ivermectin has proven effective. They can't afford to let that fact go unchallenged.
Nice Manu. Both points continue to solidify my reasons for not trusting health care. I’m done. No more. I’ll kick when I kick but no more doctors for me.
How long before Substack bans you Steve? They are headquartered in San Francisco after all!
Right
I live here
Can anyone give me work please?
Have you tried Red Balloon?
https://rumble.com/vpeh93-no-vaccine-no-job-no-problem-with-ceo-of-redballoon.work-msom-ep.376.html
I had a hard time pre scamdemic
Now I am older but work well
I doubt it will be temp work nor thru Agency
I have tried but folks don't like my name...
Thanks
change your name to something that you can get away with.
Maybe you should ask the Australian RedCross Lifeblood if they sell the donated blood. Often there is a clause hidden in the consent forms, but most people either don't read it or understand it means their blood/plasma can be sold to drug companies who then profit from it.
I'd suggest that this is why they aren't as picky as they ought to be about mRNA contaminated blood.
Check out this doco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16EL-ZexH5A
Or search for blood/plasma business
and now this. I'm upset. WHO says it's time to talk about mandatory vaccines. How's that gonna happen? For the whole world?? What about India, and Africa, and other places that are doing OK without?? Seems like prepping for a new phase of 'normalcy' https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-who-says-its-time-to-discuss
They really are sociopaths. I read that on Alex’s site and guess what should I have expected otherwise. All for covidcrap nothingburger.
I had been wondering about the blood
I don't know want does that word bleb mean?
One has to become an amateur biopsychoLogicalist to weed thru
I wish they'd stop the murder by medical means
Stop the murder of our kids and selves
Vaxxine is legal murder by P...harmaSuicidical
No liability nor criminality here...
Vaxxine is a suicide death pact Cult
Don't buy the koole Aide
Don't drink it
Don't shoot it
Don't smoke it
Fakebook ain't no friend to womanity
End the madness
Why would the vaxxed and and unvaxxed blood be the same? What’s the point of getting vaxxed, then?
I read the full article. Actually some fun old-fashioned science. https://www.jimmunol.org/content/207/10/2405.long
Results: after vaccination, 8 individuals had blood carrying lipid vesicles of spike protein (they call them exosomes). This means that the cells that took up the mRNA made lots of spike protein for weeks, and then blebbed off spike into the bloodstream to be carried in these lipid vesicles. These vesicles were still present (albeit at lower levels) four months after vaccination.
The authors found that they could inject these exosomes into mice and the mice would make antibodies to spike, as well as activate T cell immunity.
My questions after reading this article -
1) do people naturally infected make these exosomes filled with spike? The authors may answer this "yes" because they cited 3 articles (some by them) that claim these exosomes are a common feature of our immune response to respiratory viruses. I should read these other articles next.
1B) if naturally infected have these exosomes, is there a difference in what is carried in them? - for example, is it a piece of spike, all of spike, or some other contents - and are they embedded in the membrane in a similar manner? In other words, how much would this mimic our natural response?
2) is the timeframe for these exosomes to be circulating the same for vaxxed and naturally infected?
I read the article and my impression was that natural infection would have a similar mechanism of exosome production, but the exosomes wouldn’t just have spike protein components, they’d have all the other pieces and parts of the whole virus ( hence, producing much broader and more complete immunity).
A good little review or primer on this stuff is here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8487464/
I’ve always thought that the mRNA vaccines didn’t really mimic our natural response because they only offer one part of the virus—the spike protein—and they don’t enter the body via the respiratory epithelial surfaces, that have the normal processing of a respiratory pathogen.
Thank you! I will read that article you linked. I am currently working my way through this article, which supports exactly what you were saying about what is in the exosomes of the naturally infected:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7937875/
Sort of going a different direction, since the exosomes are features of natural and vaccine immunity, what is your personal theory as to the greater incidence of myocarditis and other cardiac or clotting issues from vaccination (if you believe that to be true - I do at this point)?
My gut reaction to the myocarditis issue has to do with bypassing the normal epithelial tract ingress for the virus.
We’re jabbing vaccine into the muscle and some vaccine is certainly going intravascular—maybe more so in young, healthy boys and athletes with increased vascular it’s due to their fitness. It’s been shown that intravascular vaccine injection in mice is associated with myocarditis.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34406358/
So perhaps, since the exosomes carry not only viral components but also host material, we could be producing an autoimmune response with the myocardial and/or pericardial tissue as part of the antigen target.
My guess is that the best avenue for vaccination is a more whole-virus vaccine administered via nasal spray. But that, of course, ignores the question of whether you should vaccinate low risk people anyway. I think natural immunity—if you survive the natural infection—is the way to go. And it’s criminal that the totalitariate keeps early prophylaxis and treatment (I.e., IVM or HCQ) away from the people. How many deaths could have been prevented?
A lot of people seem prepared to discuss depopulation and even admit that is has a several hundred year old history (maybe even older) but then still discuss vaccination as if the two things are not related.
Maybe we could write a detailed query to Bill Gates about that?
How many? Hundreds of thousands.
I think JFK Jr says 300,000 in his book, but I’m sure it could be way more.
One problem in trying to calculate a number is the false number of COVID deaths to begin with, due to mischaracterizing COD on death certificates and the false-positive PCR tests due to use of high repetition counts, etc.
I was actually thinking about the false numbers as I answered. Who the heck knows? Birx mess that up in March 2020 when they said to could everything. I screenshot the order and it was stunningly wrong to me at the time.
Dr Joe - thank you again! I appreciate your comments.
No problem! Happy Thanksgiving!
So the gist of this is that a blood donation from a vaxxed individual brings with it the gift of all of the "benefits" bestowed by the vaccines?
Best not get into a need for blood infusions.
We had the same discussion in this household. One can store your own blood, at a cost, but it has to be a frequent self-donation. Agreed, the toxic spike blood is troublesome. Unless one is getting a transfusion, or gets in a terrible accident, the amount of toxic garbage in a pint, would be limited in its effects, would it not?
Don’t you just love science experiments?
It’s different here in the US. When I donated (NI/unvaxed) they deferred other donors who had been vaxed within the past 8 weeks.
The explanation they gave is the mRNA and its synthesized spikes can remain in the body for 6 weeks. Makes sense, as the ALC-0315 LNP has shown up in the liver at that point.
What the heck? I looked up that article that Manu cited. That is weird. I am a physiologist and I don't understand what this means - circulating exosomes with spike protein? That sounds terrifyingly like the host cells make tons of spike and then bleb it off to circulate around the body? Like I have NOT heard of this mechanism with these vaxxes up to this point. I need to read this paper. It's new this month apparently.
That's another example of the global censorship. Dr Robert Malone was talking about that paper months ago and read (possibly a preprint) just after he mentioned it in the interview. In my opinion it offers an explanation as to Beuchamp's terrain theory's logic.
Barefoot - no. This is a new article.
I think you are remembering discussions of the lipid nanoparticle of the vaccine going all over and even preferentially getting into the ovaries and bone marrow. This is different. This is after the vaccine has caused some protein to be produced and then it gets sent around the body in lipid vesicles.
Susanna- yes your right! I was confusing the two. Thank you for the correction, you've also just selected tonight's bedtime reading🤣😂🤗
Do that, and post your opinion of it somewhere that we can see it, thanks.
Jim - I posted a new comment after I read the article. Apparently these exosomes are incredibly common in viral infections - I just was totally unaware of this. I've been enjoying my reading this morning.