This is one of the issues where Trump is doing something really positive. To anyone here who is perhaps second guessing themselves for having voted for him in 2024, it’s pretty obvious that a) RFK Jr wouldn’t be in the position of directing this push towards vaccine safety and much else and b) Harris and whoever the Dems put up instead would be doubling down on their mandates and pushing propaganda even harder.
I see a lot of division going on about Trump. People are very disappointed in what he’s doing. But the blue meanies are hoping to get a majority in the House come January and have every intention of impeachment for the third time. And after they impeach Vance, they’ll install Hakim Jeffries as the new dictator. And if that happens the US is doomed. So please stop complaining and realize that Trump is what is standing in the way of a complete takeover of America by a bunch of treasonous idiots. They must be never allowed near the White House.
It's actually very ignorantly stated. Especially with that continual drip drip dripping brainwashed Whataboutisms of "Harris and Those Dems and Jeffries." You know, the mindless politically created division of us vs. them cult?
I used to be totally apolitical. The whole thing appeared too counterproductive so I didn’t pay much attention.
Then 2020 occurred and suddenly there was this craze I refer to as Stupid 19. Started to see stuff I couldn’t believe In particular in a whole lefty blue cult that once I was associated with. The mentality was horrible and I pray these people never have any power whatsoever. There is a difference between dumb and dumber - while neither is all that appealing, there’s a big gap and I’ll go for the ones who at last acknowledge the Constitution and basic human rights. I hope you do as well.
Convid 19 wasn't a blue enforced thing. The evil started with that so-called red state guy and his beloved Warp Speed. Bidon't just continued on with the pre-planned script. So the ones you and I support back a Constitution based fairly run US and all other Republican ideals such as freedom and second amendment and small government. None of which has Ever come to fruition and never will. We're simply hanging onto the remaining threads of these ideals and sucked into the set-up of division to conquer and destroy until the US is unrecognizable.
L.o.l.-- So, the "whataboutisms" from the poster above are the greatest problems to take issue with, never mind the actual meat of the content, which you don't seem to understand. According to your "logic," there should be NO division among people. What nice pink rock have you been hiding under all this time, or did you just get out of middle school?
Well, Actually-actually, you're such an idiot-on-purpose or so completely wet behind the ears that you completely fail to grasp that most here figured out the Uniparty at least thirty years before you even came along, so go back into that hole-in-the-ground you crawled out of, pull it in behind you and shut your trap ;-)
It's great that Trump reposted it, but let's not gloss over his many failings just because of a retweet. Like they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And even the Devil sometimes tells the truth (when it's to his advantage). And Trump is the world's biggest and most shameless opportunist who only speaks truth when it serves him.
He betrays MAHA overall, but does things like this. Of course we all gotta vote GOP this year, but there's no sugar-coating his and the GOP's betrayal.
Godless people, politics & Big Pharma, playing god [cough], "For the good of the people," always bring death and disharmony! As best demonstrated by our sick, godless people and big government supporting the murder of 64 million human babies! Reminiscent of sick Roman citizens watching Christians fed to lions! Sick, godless people do sick, godless things, like attacking the Amish for not knuckling under! Like Christians of old! God save us from killer medical politics, playing God!
Peter. They are relentless here in England, UK. Jabs for Scam Covid, flu jabs, and RSV are the Dolly Mixture of poisons you can have. We are spoilt for choice!
It seems like you're replying to someone, but we don't know because you haven't used the reply button before, and the first sentences are too vague. Perhaps one of your thought-leader friends could point out the reply link to you.
"Autism is a human variation like skin or hair color." Then why was the first reference to it that describes autistic behavior in medical literature in the 1940s? Why is the skyrocketing rate of autism perfectly paralleling the extreme rise of injections we started subjecting our children to? Why are parents of vaccinated children, and thousands of them, saying the change of their child was sudden and happened right after injection?
Furthermore, if you are not even differentiating between the extreme expression of autism, with great mental regression, head banging and rocking, vs. Asperger's, I will refrain from saying what I think of your credentials....
Steve Kirsch, as Gomer once said, "Well gawwwlly!!" So Drumpf is all in on this autism travesty, is he? Let's hear the self-proclaimed and I quote: "Father of that beautiful shot" come clean on the continual lethal ramifications of his beautiful shot, then he can attempt to show himself to not be a devout follower of the father of lies. You are too intelligent a man to not call a spade a spade or a trickster a trickster. But I see all the drooling dupes here and elsewhere just ecstatic that their political boy is right on this. And let's see him come clean on his own obviously "not right" offspring.
I did read the article. I saw the sentence, “Only vaccinated Amish kids get autism.” That sentence is precisely the claim I was examining.
Repeating a claim from the article is not evidence that the claim is true.
To establish it, we would need reliable data comparing autism prevalence among vaccinated and unvaccinated Amish children, with credible case-finding, verified vaccination histories, appropriate diagnostic methods, and attention to underdiagnosis and differences in access to care.
The article does not provide that evidence.
So the issue is not that I—or an AI—missed the sentence. The issue is that you appear to be treating the sentence itself as proof of the sentence.
I appreciate the invitation.
But I would not participate in a program built around defending an unsupported absolute claim.
If Mr. Kirsch or his experts have a peer-reviewed study demonstrating that autism occurs exclusively among vaccinated Amish children, please send it to me.
I will read it carefully and I will absolutely correct myself publicly if the evidence warrants it.
A civil discussion begins with evidence. It does not begin by assuming the conclusion and asking others to debate their way out of it.
Wonder if you support all the claims that vaccines are good and safe and necessary? That they went through the proper scientific methodology comparison between actual placebos, and not amongst other flawed vaccines, hm? Wonder if you support Florence Nightingale's proof positive of proper body and living quarters hygiene and clean water (let's include clean air, and non GMO pesticide-free big Agrafood) preventing most all disease states. Oh and EMFs and over stress. Oh, and serving God faithfully? Do you accept or even understand Koch's Postulate to prove that disease was caused by a lieruse, I mean virus?
I have personally been to Amish country. I have friends who are Amish. There are no unvaccinated Amish kids with autism. If there were it would be well known.
How would you like me to PROVE that since you can't prove a negative?
Daniel: Substack has a link at the bottom of the comment labeled "reply," where you can continue the thread of conversation in an organized fashion.
So you're just going to keep that original comment even though it doesn't match the article. Who are you trying to convince, yourself? It won't convince anyone here. Contrary to what you might believe, vaccine dissidents are not sitting on an old sofa outside a dilapidated trailer with a three-legged dog shouting "vaccines ain't no good" and firing a shotgun into the air for emphasis.
It is telling that you equate "civil discussion" with "submitting to a peer-reviewed process on my terms." By refusing an open, public forum because the platform doesn't suit your preferred gatekeepers, you’ve confirmed that you aren't actually looking for a discussion.
You’re looking for a debate you can control. I'm sure you meet control freaks in your practice so I don't have to explain how that looks to the comment board when they see that behavior.
You keep demanding "reliable data," "verified histories," and "appropriate diagnostic methods" as if these are neutral tools. In reality, these are the exact procedural hurdles used to ensure that any observation conflicting with the status quo is buried in technicality.
You call the article's observation an "unsupported absolute claim," yet you ignore the fact that the entire medical establishment has failed to provide a single instance of an unvaccinated Amish child with autism to counter that observation.
If the observation is so easily "debunked" by your preferred consensus, why are you so afraid to discuss it in a transparent, public setting? Is it because you'll have to understand all the facts without feeding them into an AI? It would probably be by Zoom, so you could still have a friend doing that for you to pop up on another screen we don't see.
I'm not asking you to debate your way out of anything. I’m asking you to step out from behind the safety of your keyboard and engage with the reality that parents see every day. One that doesn't wait for a peer-reviewed study to be true.
If you truly cared about "evidence," you would be curious about why that observation exists in the first place, rather than just demanding it be packaged in the format you’ve been trained to accept.
The invitation to VSRF Live remains open. If you’re as confident in your position as you claim, a public discussion should be the easiest thing in the world.
Now is the time to write President Trump a thoughtful email about vaccines! https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
This is one of the issues where Trump is doing something really positive. To anyone here who is perhaps second guessing themselves for having voted for him in 2024, it’s pretty obvious that a) RFK Jr wouldn’t be in the position of directing this push towards vaccine safety and much else and b) Harris and whoever the Dems put up instead would be doubling down on their mandates and pushing propaganda even harder.
I see a lot of division going on about Trump. People are very disappointed in what he’s doing. But the blue meanies are hoping to get a majority in the House come January and have every intention of impeachment for the third time. And after they impeach Vance, they’ll install Hakim Jeffries as the new dictator. And if that happens the US is doomed. So please stop complaining and realize that Trump is what is standing in the way of a complete takeover of America by a bunch of treasonous idiots. They must be never allowed near the White House.
NO
Very well-stated!
It's actually very ignorantly stated. Especially with that continual drip drip dripping brainwashed Whataboutisms of "Harris and Those Dems and Jeffries." You know, the mindless politically created division of us vs. them cult?
I used to be totally apolitical. The whole thing appeared too counterproductive so I didn’t pay much attention.
Then 2020 occurred and suddenly there was this craze I refer to as Stupid 19. Started to see stuff I couldn’t believe In particular in a whole lefty blue cult that once I was associated with. The mentality was horrible and I pray these people never have any power whatsoever. There is a difference between dumb and dumber - while neither is all that appealing, there’s a big gap and I’ll go for the ones who at last acknowledge the Constitution and basic human rights. I hope you do as well.
Convid 19 wasn't a blue enforced thing. The evil started with that so-called red state guy and his beloved Warp Speed. Bidon't just continued on with the pre-planned script. So the ones you and I support back a Constitution based fairly run US and all other Republican ideals such as freedom and second amendment and small government. None of which has Ever come to fruition and never will. We're simply hanging onto the remaining threads of these ideals and sucked into the set-up of division to conquer and destroy until the US is unrecognizable.
L.o.l.-- So, the "whataboutisms" from the poster above are the greatest problems to take issue with, never mind the actual meat of the content, which you don't seem to understand. According to your "logic," there should be NO division among people. What nice pink rock have you been hiding under all this time, or did you just get out of middle school?
Actually, what cave have you been living in whereby you still don't get that this is and has been a "both sides of the same coin" paradigm.
Well, Actually-actually, you're such an idiot-on-purpose or so completely wet behind the ears that you completely fail to grasp that most here figured out the Uniparty at least thirty years before you even came along, so go back into that hole-in-the-ground you crawled out of, pull it in behind you and shut your trap ;-)
It's great that Trump reposted it, but let's not gloss over his many failings just because of a retweet. Like they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And even the Devil sometimes tells the truth (when it's to his advantage). And Trump is the world's biggest and most shameless opportunist who only speaks truth when it serves him.
Can you check the death rate for new born?
He betrays MAHA overall, but does things like this. Of course we all gotta vote GOP this year, but there's no sugar-coating his and the GOP's betrayal.
The u$ government is taking care of that “lack” of autism by spraying “pharmaceuticals” over Amish communities in pennsilvania
Godless people, politics & Big Pharma, playing god [cough], "For the good of the people," always bring death and disharmony! As best demonstrated by our sick, godless people and big government supporting the murder of 64 million human babies! Reminiscent of sick Roman citizens watching Christians fed to lions! Sick, godless people do sick, godless things, like attacking the Amish for not knuckling under! Like Christians of old! God save us from killer medical politics, playing God!
You're a bulldog! 💪🏻
Yet I still see commercials and news stories about Covid rapping up and they still offer the shots.
Peter. They are relentless here in England, UK. Jabs for Scam Covid, flu jabs, and RSV are the Dolly Mixture of poisons you can have. We are spoilt for choice!
He pays attention huh
Perhaps that has been your personal experience. Attacking AI is not the same thing as a reasoned debate.
I work 30 hours a week in public mental health. I work with autistic kids and their families.
I'd make more money if I worked in a car wash.
I also have a small, but lucrative private practice where I work with neurodiverse and autistic scientists and thought leaders.
In other words, I have credentials.
Autism is a human variation like skin or hair color.
We rely on autistic humans to advance the boundaries of human understanding.
I respect only the disciplined research of hard science, and lord knows, that is becoming more difficult because of conspiratorial rabbit holes.
It seems like you're replying to someone, but we don't know because you haven't used the reply button before, and the first sentences are too vague. Perhaps one of your thought-leader friends could point out the reply link to you.
"Autism is a human variation like skin or hair color." Then why was the first reference to it that describes autistic behavior in medical literature in the 1940s? Why is the skyrocketing rate of autism perfectly paralleling the extreme rise of injections we started subjecting our children to? Why are parents of vaccinated children, and thousands of them, saying the change of their child was sudden and happened right after injection?
Furthermore, if you are not even differentiating between the extreme expression of autism, with great mental regression, head banging and rocking, vs. Asperger's, I will refrain from saying what I think of your credentials....
Steve Kirsch, as Gomer once said, "Well gawwwlly!!" So Drumpf is all in on this autism travesty, is he? Let's hear the self-proclaimed and I quote: "Father of that beautiful shot" come clean on the continual lethal ramifications of his beautiful shot, then he can attempt to show himself to not be a devout follower of the father of lies. You are too intelligent a man to not call a spade a spade or a trickster a trickster. But I see all the drooling dupes here and elsewhere just ecstatic that their political boy is right on this. And let's see him come clean on his own obviously "not right" offspring.
Deserved Recognition - To be able to give something of value to others is a great gift
The Reward for Service to Others is More Service
That´s because the Amish are Zionists and eat babies! Duh!
Be gone you evil son of Cain!
Nazi Amish save America!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdW1BlDtcyU
I did read the article. I saw the sentence, “Only vaccinated Amish kids get autism.” That sentence is precisely the claim I was examining.
Repeating a claim from the article is not evidence that the claim is true.
To establish it, we would need reliable data comparing autism prevalence among vaccinated and unvaccinated Amish children, with credible case-finding, verified vaccination histories, appropriate diagnostic methods, and attention to underdiagnosis and differences in access to care.
The article does not provide that evidence.
So the issue is not that I—or an AI—missed the sentence. The issue is that you appear to be treating the sentence itself as proof of the sentence.
I appreciate the invitation.
But I would not participate in a program built around defending an unsupported absolute claim.
If Mr. Kirsch or his experts have a peer-reviewed study demonstrating that autism occurs exclusively among vaccinated Amish children, please send it to me.
I will read it carefully and I will absolutely correct myself publicly if the evidence warrants it.
A civil discussion begins with evidence. It does not begin by assuming the conclusion and asking others to debate their way out of it.
Wonder if you support all the claims that vaccines are good and safe and necessary? That they went through the proper scientific methodology comparison between actual placebos, and not amongst other flawed vaccines, hm? Wonder if you support Florence Nightingale's proof positive of proper body and living quarters hygiene and clean water (let's include clean air, and non GMO pesticide-free big Agrafood) preventing most all disease states. Oh and EMFs and over stress. Oh, and serving God faithfully? Do you accept or even understand Koch's Postulate to prove that disease was caused by a lieruse, I mean virus?
I have personally been to Amish country. I have friends who are Amish. There are no unvaccinated Amish kids with autism. If there were it would be well known.
How would you like me to PROVE that since you can't prove a negative?
Comment board: For the beginning of this conversation click here: https://kirschsubstack.com/p/president-trump-retweeted-my-tweet/comment/327506645
Daniel: Substack has a link at the bottom of the comment labeled "reply," where you can continue the thread of conversation in an organized fashion.
So you're just going to keep that original comment even though it doesn't match the article. Who are you trying to convince, yourself? It won't convince anyone here. Contrary to what you might believe, vaccine dissidents are not sitting on an old sofa outside a dilapidated trailer with a three-legged dog shouting "vaccines ain't no good" and firing a shotgun into the air for emphasis.
It is telling that you equate "civil discussion" with "submitting to a peer-reviewed process on my terms." By refusing an open, public forum because the platform doesn't suit your preferred gatekeepers, you’ve confirmed that you aren't actually looking for a discussion.
You’re looking for a debate you can control. I'm sure you meet control freaks in your practice so I don't have to explain how that looks to the comment board when they see that behavior.
You keep demanding "reliable data," "verified histories," and "appropriate diagnostic methods" as if these are neutral tools. In reality, these are the exact procedural hurdles used to ensure that any observation conflicting with the status quo is buried in technicality.
You call the article's observation an "unsupported absolute claim," yet you ignore the fact that the entire medical establishment has failed to provide a single instance of an unvaccinated Amish child with autism to counter that observation.
If the observation is so easily "debunked" by your preferred consensus, why are you so afraid to discuss it in a transparent, public setting? Is it because you'll have to understand all the facts without feeding them into an AI? It would probably be by Zoom, so you could still have a friend doing that for you to pop up on another screen we don't see.
I'm not asking you to debate your way out of anything. I’m asking you to step out from behind the safety of your keyboard and engage with the reality that parents see every day. One that doesn't wait for a peer-reviewed study to be true.
If you truly cared about "evidence," you would be curious about why that observation exists in the first place, rather than just demanding it be packaged in the format you’ve been trained to accept.
The invitation to VSRF Live remains open. If you’re as confident in your position as you claim, a public discussion should be the easiest thing in the world.
Totally! Put up or shut up. In a public debate, however, he can't hide behind his AI. (( shrugs ))
You do life saving work Steve! Bravo!
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