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RLM's avatar

Does anyone on this forum have experience with having long vax and then getting covid again? Or taking IVM as prophylaxis -- did it work and how much did you take?

TMartini67's avatar

I don't have long vax but I know that Dr.Pierre Kory and his group of Drs treat patients with long vax. Dr. Kory says that getting covid again can make long vax symptoms worsen- or even develop more symptoms. I have taken ivermectin for prophylaxis or if I was around a sick person or large crowds. I haven't had covid that I know of- but I never got tested or got sick. For prophylaxis I have taken 2 mg per kilogram of my bodyweight. I weigh 135

lbs so I take 12mg. I take a dose twice a week. This is how it was done in large retrospective observational study:

" in a large retrospective observational case-control study from India, Behera et al. reported that among 186 case-control pairs (n=372) of health care workers, they identified 169 participants that had taken some form of prophylaxis, with 115 that had taken ivermectin prophylaxis (Behera et al., 2020). After matched pair analysis, they reported that in the workers who had taken two dose ivermectin prophylaxis, the odds ratio for contracting COVID-19 was markedly decreased (0.27, 95% CI, 0.15–0.51). Notably, one dose prophylaxis was not found to be protective in this study. In a much larger follow-up observational

controlled trial by the same group that included 1,195 health care workers, they found that over a 3-month period, there were no infections recorded among the 788 workers that took weekly ivermectin prophylaxis while 58% of the 407 controls had become ill with COVID-19. This study demonstrates that protection against transmission can be achieved among high-risk health care workers by taking

12mg once weekly (Carvallo et al., 2020b). The Carvallo IVERCAR protocol was also separately

tested in a prospective RCT by the Health Ministry of Tucuman, Argentina where they found that

among 234 health care workers, the intervention group that took 12 mg once weekly, only 3.4% contracted COVID-19 vs. 21.4% of controls, p<.0001(Chala, 2020).

https://flccc.net/flccc-ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-covid-19/

RLM's avatar

Thank you. Outstanding, well-documented reply. Very helpful.

I looked at the FLCCC link and found a reference to a promising study.

David Pare's avatar

Goofs sound like it was all just a big mistake. Oopsie, sorry for the million dead. And it just keeps on happening.

I do not think that mistakes were made.

Justin Observer's avatar

Speaking of "buyer's remorse", and on another note..... "Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has announced that he is open to the idea of replacing President Joe Biden on the Democratic presidential ticket. In a recent interview with News Nation, host Chris Cuomo suggested that the Biden campaign is in “free fall” and that nominating Kennedy could address the party’s challenges.

Cuomo asked, “Would you be open to talking to them if they reached out to you?”

Kennedy responded affirmatively, stating, “Of course I would talk to them. It would put me on the ballot with nobody trying to get me off.”

RFK Jnr a globalist leftist representing the murderous globalist leftists??? Who knew??? Supported, promoted and funded by S Kirsch ... again, who knew??? Weelll knock me down with a feather... Bruhahahahaha... Hahhahahahah ... Sometimes everything is indeed not what it appears to be folks.... $$ talk, BS walks....

Mckeekitty's avatar

I have a very hard time believing 75% are pleased that this biological weapon is coursing through their bodies.

Jackelyn S Myers's avatar

When the pharmaceutical companies were finically responsible for vaccine damages (like they are with ALL other products they make), they were getting out of the vaccine business. They were paying out more in court-ordered damages than they could afford.

They will continue to bombard us with more dangerous vaccines because they are NOT held responsible for their products.

We must bombard congress with demands that they reverse the VAERS legislation of 1986.

Noncompliant Mom's avatar

Thank you Steve for devoting your life to this human atrocity.

NotReallySure's avatar

Medical "goof"? At this point, there's enough to prove intent.

JQP's avatar

Gates and his ilk have been saying for years that vaccines will play a BIG role in their depopulation program. It's our own fault if we refuse to believe them. They have already implemented their population reduction program and its in full swing. The fact that the vast majority of people who took the covid death jab cannot even name THREE of the ingredients is proof positive that people will believe anything if its on TV. Since the inserts were blank I would say that is the very definition of UN-informed consent! As one scientist said before these death shots even came out..."if anyone tries to come near me with that needle, I will consider it assault with a deadly weapon and will have every right to defend myself." I could not agree more!!

Kathleen Nathan's avatar

Dolores Cahill was the scientist who said that. They tried to arrest her in Ireland. I don’t know what happened with that case. I think she is amazing and was one of the first voices raised in protest. There was an organization called THE DOCTORS AlliANCE —Heiko Schoning etc. These doctors were dragged off the streets literally. The WEF has huge power across the pond. Good to see Andrew Bridgen (sp?) stirring things up….

vpfund's avatar

Hopefully, Alex Berenson’s case will work. He definitely has standing and damages.

Joe's avatar

My stepsister went from a vibrant 60 yr old real estate agent of luxury property to severe Alzheimers having to wear a diaper , within one year after getting the shots. I'm pissed.

RLM's avatar

Would she or her family consider taking nattokinase and/or lumbrokinase in the event her problem is caused by microclotting? (Just an idea)

NotReallySure's avatar

We have three extended family with dementia. They all thought we were crazy when we tried to warn them.

A shoutout to Kirsch for the Darkhorse podcast and fluvoxamine!!!! Nearly instantly got rid of my brain fog with Rona.

RLM's avatar

Did you have long covid with brain fog? At what point (day, week) did you take fluvoxamine, for how long and how much? Others with long vax/long covid need to know more about what you did? Thanks.

NotReallySure's avatar

I'm not jabbed and no long covid and instantly got on the FLCCC protocol, ivermectin, HCQ, NAC, Vit D and fluvoxamine towards the end, when the fog wasn't going away. As a embedded HW/FW engineer, I was looking at my computer/code/design, blank and wondering if I was hosed as far as being able to work anymore. I just now double-checked my fluvoxamine stash and there are only 2 x 50mg pills missing. It only took 50mg for the first day to fix it...I took another the next day and it was gone....it could have been totally gone on day 1.

Are you sure it's not a vax injury if the person is jabbed?

https://covid19criticalcare.com/protocol/i-recover-post-vaccine-treatment/

Nattokinase is the cats meow...I'm still on it...it reduced my blood pressure. I think it also got rid of BAD varicose veins my wife had.

Joe's avatar

What is the Rona you are referring to?

NotReallySure's avatar

Well...it's not My Sha...

Judith M Brandon's avatar

I am so sorry. I am seeing this too. I cannot believe the mass exodus of healthy vibrant people to crippled or riddled with illness and cognitive issues. I wish more people were pissed! It seems many have become caretakers and have little or no energy for anything beyond their daily life.

Garry Blankenship's avatar

The greed of pharma and it's bottomless pocketed backers is ultimately causing them to loose their war for the control of all human resources. The COVID "vaccine" hand was grossly overplayed, exposing so many obvious lies that even the most naive among us are shocked. Many, including myself, have gone far beyond the obvious unsafe and ineffective properties of these injectables. There we have found insidious corruption in the entire medical and health care system. The mandatory co-opting, brain washing and propagandizing of otherwise intelligent people that must be endured to obtain their credentials. It starts at the medical training institutions through the media all the way down to the patient prescribing M.D. who is paid more for prescribing patented drugs. John D. Rockefeller was the Godfather, but his protégées include large investment firm managers and similar individuals like Bill Gates & Klaus Schwab. It is a vast network of corruption too voluminous and complex to illicit in a comment, so I will isolate only one small example. Patented drugs. The corruption above has demonized naturopathic medicine as archaic witch doctoring and most of us have swallowed that completely. Consider how many major media promotions from our medical leadership like the CDC, FDA, HHS, etc. you have seen for vitamins D or C, exercise or even eating vegetables. If it's not under patent, it is not adequately profitable. Health is being co-opted as a veil for greed.

Avalanche's avatar

If you do NOT have a large supply of ivermectin right now in your house: get it now! Stop wasting precious time: time that you may not have! Do you think for one second that "they" are NOT going to try again!? They already have: monkey, pox, ebola, white lung, new flu, new bird flu, 'sexually contagious' what is the new-and-improved rash? ("You're ALLLLLLLLL gonna DIE!") They're scrambling TRYING to get us scared and docile again.

I have a friend who says, "well, yes, I have some IVM, I have a few 3mg pills left that my doctor let me get." ("LET" me get?!?!) I point out the treatment dosing of IVM is 0.3-0.4mg per KILOGRAM of body weight! (Divide your weight in lbs by 2.2 -- that's your weight in kg.)

If you weigh JUST 100 pounds (anyone? anyone?), that means your treatment dose is THREE mg per day (not zero-point-three: THREE; so tehn of the measly small 3mg pills she got from the doc!). And here's the thing: you MUST take them within a couple days of getting sick. All of the (false) 'managed' tests Pharma did to "prove" IVM wouldn't work? They waited around two weeks after infection to give the patients ANY (small doses of) IVM. Of course it didn't work then! No drug with anti-viral properties DOES work after 6-7 days of the little buggers setting up housekeeping in your body!

I have ordered several times from AllDayChemist (dot com); it's a couple weeks delivery, cause it's usually shipped out of Czech Republic. No scrip needed; just order it!

You must have IVM when you need it. Remember not just the "ortho-docs" refusing to write a scrip, but pharmacies REFUSING to dispense it ON receipt of a LEGAL scrip? You must have IVM on hand, in your house -- and in a large enough supply to provide treatment dosing (see FLCCC protocols) if you or a family member gets sick with the NEXT BIOWEAPON they send around! Please!

TMartini67's avatar

EXCELLENT comment!!!! 🔥 You are 100% right. I have repeatedly said this to anyone that mentioned ivermectin. If the WHO ever get the kind of control they've been scheming to get; they'll make damn sure the next time they declare a "pandemic emergency" that it will be all but impossible to get Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, antibiotics, and anything else that might help. Thanks for reminding me to get more!! ❤❤

Avalanche's avatar

Thank you. Even though I am 100% despairing of REACHING friends and family; it matters not! It is my DUTY to continue to coax, mention "in passing," (very occasionally) send an article or comment, and PLANTING SEEDS! Both my sisters, their husbands, and sons took the poison-vaxxx. I was FORBIDDEN to bringing the topic up or discuss it starting IN 2020. And I was silenced and shut out, EVEN as my bro-in-law sickened, spent a horrendous month-and-a-bit in hospital (being TORTURED, my sister described it) as the ortho-docs continued to be "baffled."

My sister later described to me (in another of my seed-planting phone cons with her {self-directed eye roll}) that she left the hospital to go home one night, and he STILL wanted to try to hang on... by the time she reached home, he called her and said 'he was done. He wanted hospice.' He was WAY too sick to come home of course, but they put him on hospice and it took him five more days of torture before he died.

Even though the poison-vaxx and the malign and evil purveyors of infection-by-injection (I think that's Dr Tenpenny's super term!) are still working to do it again -- and my sisters (neighbors and friends) still refuse to listen. {sigh} I am still working at being the turd in the punchbowl.

I will not -- I CANNOT -- just shrug and say: "hey, do stupid things, provided to you by evil people, it's on you!" I wailed to my now-widowed-sister once: "you're the only family I have left! I DON'T want to be left alone. Please, PLEASE take precautions! Build up your immune system to whatever extent you're willing to! TAKE the nutrients, get IVM in the house!" (THAT, funnily (?) enough, made a small dent, and she was finally willing to listen to a little about the precautions and possible 'clean-ups.') Rejecting and abandoning family and friends in not a service to us or them, even IF it lowers our stress and dismay!

TMartini67's avatar

Oh I definitely know how it feels to be labeled the "crazy" "ignorant" one in the family! My parents, my brother, aunts and uncles, cousins got the injectables willingly. A few got them because of the mandates. Only myself, my daughter, nephew, and 1 cousin remain unjabbed out of about 30 family members. After these injections rolled out and we refused to get them, we were banished from all family dinners, holidays, etc..for 3 and a half yrs. Most of my family members (on both sides) live nearby in the same area (it's rural). My elderly parents pressured my son so much he ended up getting them. They wouldn't let anyone in their house unless they had the shots. Whatever CNN, MSNBC, Fauchi, CDC, etc..said- they. believed. They still believe the nonsense... They used to call me and tell me who in the area had covid or who was in the hospital with covid- and then tell me I was going to die if I caught it because I'm an unvaccinated longtime smoker.. I still haven't had covid that I know of. Never had symptoms and I never got tested. I turned off ALL the news stations in March 2020. I didn't know about any of the early treatments like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin until I saw the video of Dr.Kory's Senate testimony on ivermectin. I didn't see that video until May or June of 2021. I started researching it- which led me to more and more information that I was completely unaware of. If I hadn't seen that video- I wouldn't have been aware and prepared when my daughter got deathly sick in Oct 2021 (delta wave). Luckily I bought some ivermectin (🐴paste) and it kept her out of the hospital. To this very day most of my older family members are getting boosters and would NEVER take something like ivermectin or HCQ. They think that's something that can kill you (thanks to the CDC and Fauci). When I visit my family (now that I'm allowed) we don't discuss anything that has to do with vaccines, ivermectin, or covid. It would just be an argument... I finally gave up trying to warn them about these injectables. It's very hard to watch as their health and cognitive abilities decline and they develop new issues. I hate that you're experiencing the same thing.. The world has gone mad...

Avalanche's avatar

Oh and...

"Whatever CNN, MSNBC, Fauchi, CDC, etc..said- they. believed."

You could "carelessly" drop around their houses, in their car, stuff in their jacket pocket or purse, the Big Media reports of Fauci backtracking on his lies, and ALL the backtracking and scrambling CDC and FED and CNN and etc. are now doing....

Just the headlines and a URL; or for the 'un-computered' ... just the headlines and the "meat" of the article: just a paragraph or two... short enough to get them to read it. (And if you want to be snarky {wink} -- your PHONE number if they want to know more!)

Plant seeds... SOME might grow!

Avalanche's avatar

"longtime smoker"

Have you looked into Dr Bryan Ardis?! After following him obsessively for a couple months, I chucked him 14-15 months ago when I decided he was just nuts.... but then when I checked back in 3-4 mos ago: holy CRAP! He is backing up EVERY nutty thing he said with peer-reviewed (ha! possibly CRAP!) published papers, patents, articles, and various govts' data. I'm totally impressed, and he's making some headway with out other "rebel" docs!

One of the data bits he has put out -- with refs -- that disassembles one thread of the LYING about this whole bioweapon arrack -- is that contrary to the govt lies: their won data shows that SMOKERS were the LEAST likely group to get sick, to get hospitalized, and to die!! Can't remember if it was 1.5% of smokers or 5.1% smokers he says often... "our" govt is trying again to force smoking cessation, and trying to make nicotine harder and harder to get! (We ALL agree smoking is VERY unhealthy (and stinky and disgusting besides!) -- but nicotine is NOT!

He pulled data from Harvard filing FOIA requests back in 2015 for Big Tobacco's files reports from the '30s, '40s, and '50s. Turns out Big T was having NO success in making new ciggs addictive. So they brought in chemists and discovered that nicotine is NOT addictive! But if they added a chemical called pyrozine to anything, that *thing* became madly deeply addictive!

"Our" govt has approved SIX HUNDRED chemical additives to ciggs. Another chemical they add is a mix of sugar and arsenic. (I get the effects of the two mixed up: it's enough that I don't CARE!) Turns out when you BURN sugar, it turns into a carcinogen, and when you burn arsenic, it facilitates that carcinogen's entry into your cells!

Ardis is WELL WELL worth a lot of listens!

TMartini67's avatar

2020 article about smoking/covid that I read on this subject. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7210099/

TMartini67's avatar

YES I actually had read some articles (a couple in PubMed) about Chinese studies on why the smokers in China weren't the main ones hospitalized when covid first hit them. This was before Brian Ardis was talking about it. Of course there have been counter-studies that claim to debunk this BUT...in my own personal experience- I think there's some truth to it. One study I read said that it's not the nicotine that seems to prevent smokers from covid, but the cigarette smoke. I also read that the nicotine patches help with long covid symptoms in many people BUT do not prevent catching covid. I've saved quite a few links to articles on the subject. I too watched Brian Ardis when he was getting the word out about Remdesivir but I haven't watched much of him lately. My boyfriend hasn't had covid either and he smoked cigarettes up until he started vaping 6 months ago. To be fair, I do know a couple of unjabbed smokers that caught covid- but they're still alive and they don't have any lingering issues from it. Maybe there's something to it- maybe not... YES smoking is a dirty stinking filthy habit- I can't deny that. I can honestly say that it is definitely more addictive now than it was a decade or two ago.

Nicotine is being tested and used now for many things. It's the added chemicals in cigarettes that make them so awful.

Joe's avatar

Tractor Supply sell a tube of " horse paste" IVM for about $13. A South African woman who has been studying IVM long before Covid 19 came around recommend that you rub the paste in fatty parts of your body ( the virus loves fat) and also take a anti histamine containing Laratadine for better absorbtion. I do it every three weeks as a prophalactic. So far so good.