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Arlie Esau MD's avatar

The story of John Snow and his treatment by the medical establishment did a great deal for me in coming to terms with the fact that what we are up against is nothing new.

The way in which his story was whitewashed is particularly pertinent and solidified for me that this is just typical human group think.

I can verify that in medical school we were taught the version of his story (he removed the handle of a well that was the source of cholera) that spares the medical establishment the total embarrassment they so deserved.

Sadly the refusal to see the truth persisted for over a decade resulting in many excess deaths and Snow dying while penniless and disparaged.

There really is nothing new under the sun.

But please do keep speaking the truth.

https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/no-consensus-friday-october-17-2025?r=18t2wd&utm_medium=ios

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Charles's avatar

A major problem in arguing on any subject is the egotistical demand that you are more erudite and intelligent than your foe. Being old and stupid, l have no problem discussing with someone my superior, hopefully l will learn something. Alas this is seldom the case in science where dogma is everything. Steve is a legend and l would not dare to argue with him about how to tie my shoe laces.

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James Dawson's avatar

She’ll just whistle past the graveyard….literally.

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Astragale's avatar

The injection promoters almost always refuse to respond.

They have no real confidence in their arguments.

They hate to be challenged.

They fear being exposed.

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macDuff's avatar

she can't permit herself to respond. That is evident from the fact that her reputation counts on the existence of HIV. Since it has not been proven scientifically to exist her whole professional existence depends on the masses believing lies. The whole system works this way. You are Don Quixote.

But keep up the good work. I don't like those windmills either.

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Janet Babic's avatar

She never will. I live in Canada and there have been a number of people who have challenged our health officials to debate and nothing ever comes of it. I say cowards!

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Transcriber B's avatar

Good one!

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Jsaarman's avatar

Steve ✨ ✨

I get money is to be made if this debate continues. What about connecting with those Democratic Governors dead set on calling for RFK’s resignation and forming other agencies that support the for death shots. Call them out and challenge their leadership position and the platforms they stand on with your science.

LET THE LIGHT SHINE !✨ ✨

I suspect nobody profiting with this standstill want to see an end to their money machine and move on.

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Daniel Murphy's avatar

I don’t go around throwing out the word ‘hero’ often. But Steve Kirsch is the epitome of what the word stands for. For many years, as a layman, I have only had my skeptical mind to ponder why our society is sicker than ever - especially when spending unimaginable amounts of money on “health.” Because of Mr Kirsch, my suspicions regarding a malevolent ‘sick care system’ have been validated. One day after the debris has been cleared from the pharmaceutical battlefield and public trust in medicine is restored, medical schools and government offices will be named for Steve Kirsch; a hero for our time.

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Olle Durks's avatar

Are nincompoops like Epi the only victims left on your radar? Have the actual experts all gone into hiding already? Guess so.

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Queen Lolligag's avatar

I’m sorry but I’m seeing a pattern in these people: they will all be included in a large cohort of insignificant scientists with no backbone who refused to use their brains during this highly consequential period, and like the “scientists” who staunchly defended smoking and asbestos as being healthy for people, they will be forgotten and written off as ignorant and naive at best. They must feel so insecure inside, if they’re capable of feeling. The tide is turning and when it completes the turn, they will be left behind.

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ActualData's avatar

What if you offered a substack duel instead? I'm sure some might feel you will be throwing them misinformation curve balls that they won't be prepared for in real time. But maybe if there was an "article duel" of a limited number, where one of you starts, then the other rebuts and issues a challenge, with the other side then returning the favor. Maybe like 5 articles each where each is able to issue 5 challenges and 5 rebuttals or something? This would be less intimidating for them, since they can consult and plan etc, in-between. Less pressure to think on their feet. They can muster the forces of all the evil epidemiologists and mathematicians between volleys, and you can do the same if you felt the need.

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Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Another of so many cowards. May she prove me wrong.

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MSB's avatar

Very smart of you to keep challenging these pharma-funded shills.

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Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Yes, I agree, we have a public record— they were informed, they did not respond. And it's like this— you call 911 and you say, help! The house is on fire and the children are inside! And they hang on up you. And it was recorded.

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Vv's avatar

these days when we hear expert I have to ask What made them an expert? How did they earn this title? Or did they just give it to themselves? these so-called experts, don’t appear very expert to me. Steve does.

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Jerry F's avatar

Funny isn't it. The very people who demand that you "follow the science" refuse to let science be discussed (as it applies to the covid jab) even though the true definition of science is that: discussion, analysis and verification - rinse and repeat. The question is, why ?

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