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Terry Anderson's avatar

So what is RFK Jnr going to do snout the firing of Dr. Steven Hatfill and Gray Delaney, both appointed by him to stop vaccine related corruption?

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Terry Anderson's avatar

So how many people does KCOR estimate died from the jabs, world wide, or at least from Pfizzer/Moderna?

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mark's avatar

"Journalism USED to be about understanding people on both sides of the issue and presenting both sides for the public to decide."

No it wasn't, it is just that the Overton window appeared a little wider than it does now.

Presenting "both sides" was always just a way of framing a debate within what the powers that be wanted you to believe.

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RA's avatar

The vested interests financially punish people who say anything against what makes the vested interests money.

There, that's the "science" most widely operative.

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Terry Anderson's avatar

On the subject of belief, where do you fit Denis Rancourt in the mix of science and belief. He used to say the jab killed 5-17 million people, now he says, I think, the jab only indirectly killed people. The real killer was stress induced pneumonia caused by taking the jab and associated societal pressure. Has he lost it, or is onto something?

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mark's avatar
Oct 24Edited

No. He was always an idiot. Never trusted him and his papers have been deliberately used to push a false narrative into the "resistance" community. A useful idiot in fact.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

The clotting was not stress induced. Even the Pfizer trial papers listed pages of negative effects from the shots. The death rates all rose in countries after the introduction of the shots. Stress certainly can weaken a person's health but then you introduce a toxin into that person at the same time and bad things can happen.

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shaman54inPennsylvania's avatar

Crickets, I'm sure.

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Michael's avatar

Medicine used to be about saving lives. Now it's about saving careers. Science used to be about discovery. Now it's about cover up. Journalism used to he about impartial research. Now it's about propaganda.

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Queen Lolligag's avatar

So important to continue to argue for sanity. Steve, your MO is sound. I used to think that logic and reasoning would shift public comprehension instantly; now I think this is the long game. Truth will win.

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John Frank's avatar

HAHA, THEY WILL NEVER ANSWER BACK! THEY CANNOT EVEN REPORT THE REAL NEWS THE RIGHT WAY!

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Chi-town Stan's avatar

Sorry, Steve. But journalism has been pushing up daisies for a couple of decades now.

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robert adkins's avatar

Journalism used tp present both side...but that was before we had independent fact checker.

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Jay Bernstein's avatar

Steve, you’re the best. Keep it up!

-Your friend, Jay

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Fook Keong Yip's avatar

Steve, it was very sweet of you to write such a nice letter to Michelle Smith and Laura Ungar from AP. I on the other hand think that both Michele Smith and Laura Ungar are too stupid to know anything about science even if a mega volume of science hit them in their faces. Michelle and Laura must be very good at propaganda to work for AP. They must be very Woke and have very left wing agendas. These are typical traits for them to aquire to achieve their stupidity and their tunnel vision. I hope that Michelle and Laura have read their science of the Covid mRNA vaccines and followed it by taking many boosters of that stuff.

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Denzel Koh's avatar

Not many have a pair to confront let alone dare debate Steve as they all fear his profile. We know who these eunuchs are and why

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David O'Halloran's avatar

You wrote "They just don’t want to talk about it. Science is now about defending your belief rather than a search for the truth." I would leave out the word "now" and replace the word "defending" with "asserting". Science now is about asserting beliefs not defending truth. Perhaps it never was about truth. It is hard to say since a clear definition of science is rare. I can't find a single unambiguous example of a scientific truth. Your critique of vaccine science exposes a negative truth - what they claim is true is false - they are poisoning people whilst claiming to save them. I wonder if you applied your data analytic methods to almost any drug what result you would get. The problem here is far bigger than just vaccines ( bad as they are). Today's core religion - the religion of science - is all wrong. Trying to get the majority of people to understand that their religion is all wrong when they do not even suspect it is a religion is a difficult thing to do.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

Michael Crichton had a great comment on science and consensus in science. All science has become or as you point out, always has been politicized/controlled by those in power and thus all scientists that want to get paid follow the consensus. It's why we have scientists searching high and low for causes of autism and making a good living doing so while the primary reason sits right in front of them but they don't want to see it. To see it ends your career.

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Clark's avatar

There is an Eastern tale which speaks about a very rich magician who had a great many sheep. But at the same time this magician was very mean. He did not want to hire shepherds, nor did he want to erect a fence about the pasture where his sheep were grazing. The sheep consequently often wandered into the forest, fell into ravines, and so on, and above all they ranaway, for they knew that the magician wanted their flesh and skins and this they did not like. At last the magician found a remedy. He hypnotized his sheep and suggested to them first of all that they were immortal and that no harm was being done to them when they were skinned, that, on the contrary, it would be very good for them and even pleasant; secondly he suggested that the magician was a good master who loved his flock so much that he was ready to do anything in the world for them; and in the third place he suggested to them that if anything at all were going to happen to them it was not going to happen just then, at any rate not that day, and therefore they had no need to think about it. Further the magician suggested to his sheep that they were not sheep at all; to some of them he suggested that they were lions, to others that they were eagles, to others that they were men, and to others that they were magicians.

And after this all his cares and worries about the sheep came to an end. They never ran away again but quietly awaited the time when the magician would require their flesh and skins.

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Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Somehow I imagine the sheep assembled on a meadow before a Jumbotron— watching Whoopi Goldberg.

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Clark's avatar

Whoopi Goldberg is just a sheep hypnotized to think she's a lion(ess).

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Matthew Howard's avatar

I have done some digging into the corruption and lies involving the covid vaccines as well as in the studies that discredited HCQ. I have not gone deep into regular vaccines yet, but I can a least say that the rhetoric seems familiar.

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mark's avatar

I did the digging on HCQ in Feb/March 2020 and put in an order for some with some UK online pharmacies (it was an over the counter antimalarial in 2019). Those orders never completed, by the end of March HCQ was withdrawn from sale unofficially, never to return even to this day.

If you really want to see just what the powers that be were prepared to do keep the vaccine narrative alive, look for the Surgisphere paper submitted to the Lancet in May 2020 (IIRC). Completely fraudulent, flew through peer review as quickly as the notorious Drosten paper, and withdrawn shortly after it was used as a reason to suspend all HCQ trials then being carried out in the UK and USA. People should have been jailed for that.

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