Okay, I watched the second one and if anything he appeared even more clueless. You asked about all those bad outcomes in all are nearly every pregnant woman in the Pfizer RCT. He had no evidence that this limited data strongly suggested that their mRNA shot was at best not for pregnant women? He also countered your very valid concerns about Fauci's Remdesivir being part of the standard of medical care for people hospitalized with a serious COVID pheumonia. If anything he seemed to confuse "Run Death Is Near" [made by Gilead I believe] with the antibodies Trump got from Regeneron. Maybe Trump got both but all the evidence I ahve seen shows Remdesivir increased the risk of dying whereas the antibody likely benefited Trump. Jenna - You know far more about the science and what it does and does not support than Dr. Spencer does. You appear to be taken by something he is pretty good at and that is being a very good smoozer. The guy could never win a real debate about COVID with someone like Steve or even me or you. Food For Thought
I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! I agree, I did not ask all the things I wanted to ask and I told him that and he agreed to a follow up. I respected that he was willing to engage in the first place. I believe that there are many many snakes out there, but I also have come to believe that there are some truly misguided sheep. Those are my favorite because they still represent hope! If you would like to be part of an interview panel, let me know.😊
My expertise was primarily in nutrition science and clinical nutrition but I was always fascinated by how easily people could be conned into all sorts of dubious claims [nutrition quackery basically]. The way people fell for Fauci dubious and even contradictory claims back in 2020 seemed similar to the way people would cling to some charlatan touting some new [or recycled] fad supplement or diet. I favor education to indoctrination. Many times the quacks believe their own scientifically meritless claims, but sometimes they just get duped by some other quack with a convincing [to the uneducated] and become followers. IMO - Dr. Spencer got duped [or indoctrinated] into the Fauci cult, as did the majority of MDs who are surprisely bad at understanding what the best scientific data suggest is or is not most likely true. FFT
Dr. Spencer would be destroyed by Steve Kirsch [Hell I could destroy his blind faith in mRNA vaccines]. One example, he had no rebuttal to the mysterious blood clots that most embalmers started seeing not in 2020 but in 2021. He said he did see them. Well he refused to even acknowledge that they existed! By denying their existence or believing they were a sick hoax he evaded the obvious retort as to how or why they went from never being seen to suddenly being seen by most embalmers were pulling them out of a decent % of the bodies they were embalming. And we know the so-called healthcare bureaucrats were doing everything they could to shut the embalmers up. Why was that necessary? I just watched the first interview. I'll post again after I get a chance to see your second one.
getting these medical people to the discussion table is even more difficult than getting people to speak out publicly after they've been vaccine-injured.
Many vaccine injured don't want to challenge the narrative and be labeled an anti-vaxxer.
Indeed. Hard to believe but true. Imagine you were a high priest in historic times in the cult of chucking virgins in volcanoes to make it rain. Imagine you had a nice palace and tons of status of money and you were about to marry into the royal family. Life is good. Then up pops some guy who claims he can statistically prove that there is absolutely no correlation between sacrificing virgins and raining. Would you debate that guy?
Steve, I read the entire well written review of the CHD gathering written by Dr Spencer. If he was the only needle knuckle head in attendance then we are making progress. The others’ indifference is tantamount to fear. Deep down their humanity is weeping - if they still have any.
You have the tenacity of a honey badger in pursuit of truth. Makes me sad to see you use the word never, but if anyone has that right, it is Steve Kirsch.
Here's the thing. This HAS already happened and we won. You, campbell, malone, weinstein, malhotra, some other phd i read about recently and can't remember the name, and many others, all started out on the side of thinking that these "vaccines" were going to be a good thing. They all saw the effects, they all saw the data, and they changed sides. So the argument that you want to have with these people has actually played out several times, and many of them have changed sides and now see the truth. So you could get one of these doctors to agree with you and you could win and they could change sides too, but it's not going to change the mainstream narrative unfortunately. That person will just become the latest Pariah of the MSM. PERHAPS the one difference is the exposure it would get... and maybe that becomes some tipping point for more to see the light. But i am starting to think that all who would convert, already have. The rest have religious mindsets, not scientific ones, and short of their own mrna-induced death, won't see the light.
Ya know -- I think they already do "see the light" -- they're AFRAID to admit it. Those well-educated people can't be THAT STUPID ... can they??? But they easily can be VERY AFRAID.
If you watched the presentation to the ACIP Committee by Aaron Siri you will have noted how bent out of shape Dr. Cody Meissner was. He completely ignored everything that was presented to him as if he could not hear or read. Nothing he said made any sense. This is what you are up against. These indoctrinated doctors cannot see a proof when it is presented to them. They will walk blindly over a cliff screaming they are right. Keep up the excellent work as you are definitely making a difference.
A lot of these doctors have been indoctrinated by the many pHarma funded and controlled institutions. Many doctors took the bioweapon themselves and still cannot see the harm this iatrogenic assault has inflicted upon the masses. The belief in the money these dangerous products generate, encourages blind obedience from those who have no moral or ethical backbone.
I’m so proud of you Steve. You are spot on it is their religion. Straight from hell because the devil is a liar!!! The father of lies. Keep up the fight. We appreciate every thing you doing.
So, just looking at his CV - it strikes me that this man is more of an Intelligence Operative, than he is a physician. Let's be real here. The CDC operates an Intelligence Agency, which does the same sorts of clandestine work, as all of the rest. Dissemination of fraudulent narratives, being a very common element of tradecraft - do we have any good reasons, to disbelieve that this member of the CFR and the credibly accused "Doctors Without Borders", wouldn't have been assigned to the CHD conference for the purposes of narrative control and perception management?
Steve - your tenacity in pursuit of truth was described as a honey badgerish. That made me chuckle. The more these the establishment refuses to debate a man of your status, scholarship, independence and obvious intellect the more they strengthen your arguments and weaken their own. The more they ignore you, the stronger you get. It is like a play ground fight. The crowd (us) knows full well the boy who refuses to fight is scared he will lose and that is why he refuses. Your 1800 publications have proved for my family and in my circle that you are right and they are wrong. Their refusal to engage only increases our view. I further believe that you have the fame, reputation, history, independence and ability to redefine medical science and ethics if not the whole of what science itself has sadly become in our times. Are you a member of the American Academy of Sciences? In our view you should be its President. We would vote for you in that capacity in a heart beat.
If they agreed to an honest talk they’d have to admit they helped kill tens of millions innocent men, women & children. Still happening. Never going to happen! They deserve the death penalty. 😢🙏🏻
Unfortunately Steve, your comment on “ covid vaccines were the biggest mistake In medical history “ is incorrect! Most believe this was calculated and deliberate attack on humanity!! A “mistake” infers it was miscalculated endeavour made in a rush to help humanity!! Too many variables say otherwise!
Steve you are amazing, you have exposed the death cults agenda and crimes over and over.
In a real world, with an honest judicial system, with a real government of the people, not the scam called the captured USA government, all of it, from the President, senators, house reps, state governors, etc.... all in on the criminal cartel.
So of course if one of these death cult pimps with initials like MD by their name, ever was honest, and admitted it was and is an active genocide, they would cease to exist..
Fear is a hell of powerful control button.
If these vermin knew that they were going to be put on trial, convicted and executed for their genocide, this cult of death would collapse.
You were wise not to challenge Spencer to a winner-take-all debate whereby the winner would be decided by three mutually agreed upon judges, which is what you have proposed before. That's because both of you would probably keep vetoing the other's suggested choice for a judge. Also, no one would want to serve as a debate judge unless you paid for the person's transportation, housing and meals to whatever location the debate was supposed to be held at. Further, the debate judge would have to make arrangements with his or her employer and family in order to travel to wherever you wanted the debate held. In short, the debate you've proposed before would realistically never occur for many reasons, with some of the most important problems with the idea involving logistics, finances and trust. A debate judge, for example, would need to know with 100% certainty that, after going to a lot of trouble and expense to attend the debate, which, of course, would not be a debate that simply occurs on a zoom call, but actually is a debate where the two debaters and the three judges are all in the same room, that one of the debaters won't pull out at the last minute for whatever reason (such as illness or getting cold feet). Your new proposal--to have a civil discussion with Spencer--is totally feasible and could be done online. So, stick with that approach and scrap the debate idea.
I could cry. A brilliantly worded e-mail and no response. I wonder how these people sleep at night or look themselves in the mirror. WHO (and that might even be the W.H.O.) is paying them to be so OBTUSE. "Professor" Spencer even looks mean and unhappy. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK STEVE.
Steve, I have interviewed Dr. Spencer and he has already agreed to a follow up… Perhaps you could join me?
great job. for sure!
I'll believe this when I see/hear it
That would be something!!
https://open.substack.com/pub/jennamccarthy/p/i-interviewed-the-fauci-fanboy-i?
Okay, I watched the second one and if anything he appeared even more clueless. You asked about all those bad outcomes in all are nearly every pregnant woman in the Pfizer RCT. He had no evidence that this limited data strongly suggested that their mRNA shot was at best not for pregnant women? He also countered your very valid concerns about Fauci's Remdesivir being part of the standard of medical care for people hospitalized with a serious COVID pheumonia. If anything he seemed to confuse "Run Death Is Near" [made by Gilead I believe] with the antibodies Trump got from Regeneron. Maybe Trump got both but all the evidence I ahve seen shows Remdesivir increased the risk of dying whereas the antibody likely benefited Trump. Jenna - You know far more about the science and what it does and does not support than Dr. Spencer does. You appear to be taken by something he is pretty good at and that is being a very good smoozer. The guy could never win a real debate about COVID with someone like Steve or even me or you. Food For Thought
I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! I agree, I did not ask all the things I wanted to ask and I told him that and he agreed to a follow up. I respected that he was willing to engage in the first place. I believe that there are many many snakes out there, but I also have come to believe that there are some truly misguided sheep. Those are my favorite because they still represent hope! If you would like to be part of an interview panel, let me know.😊
My expertise was primarily in nutrition science and clinical nutrition but I was always fascinated by how easily people could be conned into all sorts of dubious claims [nutrition quackery basically]. The way people fell for Fauci dubious and even contradictory claims back in 2020 seemed similar to the way people would cling to some charlatan touting some new [or recycled] fad supplement or diet. I favor education to indoctrination. Many times the quacks believe their own scientifically meritless claims, but sometimes they just get duped by some other quack with a convincing [to the uneducated] and become followers. IMO - Dr. Spencer got duped [or indoctrinated] into the Fauci cult, as did the majority of MDs who are surprisely bad at understanding what the best scientific data suggest is or is not most likely true. FFT
Dr. Spencer would be destroyed by Steve Kirsch [Hell I could destroy his blind faith in mRNA vaccines]. One example, he had no rebuttal to the mysterious blood clots that most embalmers started seeing not in 2020 but in 2021. He said he did see them. Well he refused to even acknowledge that they existed! By denying their existence or believing they were a sick hoax he evaded the obvious retort as to how or why they went from never being seen to suddenly being seen by most embalmers were pulling them out of a decent % of the bodies they were embalming. And we know the so-called healthcare bureaucrats were doing everything they could to shut the embalmers up. Why was that necessary? I just watched the first interview. I'll post again after I get a chance to see your second one.
getting these medical people to the discussion table is even more difficult than getting people to speak out publicly after they've been vaccine-injured.
Many vaccine injured don't want to challenge the narrative and be labeled an anti-vaxxer.
Indeed. Hard to believe but true. Imagine you were a high priest in historic times in the cult of chucking virgins in volcanoes to make it rain. Imagine you had a nice palace and tons of status of money and you were about to marry into the royal family. Life is good. Then up pops some guy who claims he can statistically prove that there is absolutely no correlation between sacrificing virgins and raining. Would you debate that guy?
Yep - Steve would be that guy who pops up! 😃💪🏼
What you describe is,in truth, the face of true evil.
Steve, I read the entire well written review of the CHD gathering written by Dr Spencer. If he was the only needle knuckle head in attendance then we are making progress. The others’ indifference is tantamount to fear. Deep down their humanity is weeping - if they still have any.
You have the tenacity of a honey badger in pursuit of truth. Makes me sad to see you use the word never, but if anyone has that right, it is Steve Kirsch.
Keep fighting the good fight!
Here's the thing. This HAS already happened and we won. You, campbell, malone, weinstein, malhotra, some other phd i read about recently and can't remember the name, and many others, all started out on the side of thinking that these "vaccines" were going to be a good thing. They all saw the effects, they all saw the data, and they changed sides. So the argument that you want to have with these people has actually played out several times, and many of them have changed sides and now see the truth. So you could get one of these doctors to agree with you and you could win and they could change sides too, but it's not going to change the mainstream narrative unfortunately. That person will just become the latest Pariah of the MSM. PERHAPS the one difference is the exposure it would get... and maybe that becomes some tipping point for more to see the light. But i am starting to think that all who would convert, already have. The rest have religious mindsets, not scientific ones, and short of their own mrna-induced death, won't see the light.
Ya know -- I think they already do "see the light" -- they're AFRAID to admit it. Those well-educated people can't be THAT STUPID ... can they??? But they easily can be VERY AFRAID.
If you watched the presentation to the ACIP Committee by Aaron Siri you will have noted how bent out of shape Dr. Cody Meissner was. He completely ignored everything that was presented to him as if he could not hear or read. Nothing he said made any sense. This is what you are up against. These indoctrinated doctors cannot see a proof when it is presented to them. They will walk blindly over a cliff screaming they are right. Keep up the excellent work as you are definitely making a difference.
Yes Meissner is part of the 'Vaccines, Amen' cult. There is no reasoning when he believes that all vaccines are "safe and effective".
Read Aaron Siri's brillant new book: 'Vaccines, Amen' . 🙏
A lot of these doctors have been indoctrinated by the many pHarma funded and controlled institutions. Many doctors took the bioweapon themselves and still cannot see the harm this iatrogenic assault has inflicted upon the masses. The belief in the money these dangerous products generate, encourages blind obedience from those who have no moral or ethical backbone.
You got it ... RIGHT ON TARGET ... these people are LACKING MORAL OR ETHICAL BACKBONE ...
Indoctrinated by Gates $$$$
I've given up on "the data", all that matters is my observations.
I’m so proud of you Steve. You are spot on it is their religion. Straight from hell because the devil is a liar!!! The father of lies. Keep up the fight. We appreciate every thing you doing.
None of the pro vaccines mob dare to debate as they are all yellow cowards and know they are liars
Though unsure of this origin of this quote (Mark Twain?), its premise is still true.
“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
So, just looking at his CV - it strikes me that this man is more of an Intelligence Operative, than he is a physician. Let's be real here. The CDC operates an Intelligence Agency, which does the same sorts of clandestine work, as all of the rest. Dissemination of fraudulent narratives, being a very common element of tradecraft - do we have any good reasons, to disbelieve that this member of the CFR and the credibly accused "Doctors Without Borders", wouldn't have been assigned to the CHD conference for the purposes of narrative control and perception management?
Steve - your tenacity in pursuit of truth was described as a honey badgerish. That made me chuckle. The more these the establishment refuses to debate a man of your status, scholarship, independence and obvious intellect the more they strengthen your arguments and weaken their own. The more they ignore you, the stronger you get. It is like a play ground fight. The crowd (us) knows full well the boy who refuses to fight is scared he will lose and that is why he refuses. Your 1800 publications have proved for my family and in my circle that you are right and they are wrong. Their refusal to engage only increases our view. I further believe that you have the fame, reputation, history, independence and ability to redefine medical science and ethics if not the whole of what science itself has sadly become in our times. Are you a member of the American Academy of Sciences? In our view you should be its President. We would vote for you in that capacity in a heart beat.
If they agreed to an honest talk they’d have to admit they helped kill tens of millions innocent men, women & children. Still happening. Never going to happen! They deserve the death penalty. 😢🙏🏻
Unfortunately Steve, your comment on “ covid vaccines were the biggest mistake In medical history “ is incorrect! Most believe this was calculated and deliberate attack on humanity!! A “mistake” infers it was miscalculated endeavour made in a rush to help humanity!! Too many variables say otherwise!
Wonderful Steve!
Ii don't think you'll get a life member of the Council on Foreign Relations to budge.
Steve you are amazing, you have exposed the death cults agenda and crimes over and over.
In a real world, with an honest judicial system, with a real government of the people, not the scam called the captured USA government, all of it, from the President, senators, house reps, state governors, etc.... all in on the criminal cartel.
So of course if one of these death cult pimps with initials like MD by their name, ever was honest, and admitted it was and is an active genocide, they would cease to exist..
Fear is a hell of powerful control button.
If these vermin knew that they were going to be put on trial, convicted and executed for their genocide, this cult of death would collapse.
Stubborn asses
You were wise not to challenge Spencer to a winner-take-all debate whereby the winner would be decided by three mutually agreed upon judges, which is what you have proposed before. That's because both of you would probably keep vetoing the other's suggested choice for a judge. Also, no one would want to serve as a debate judge unless you paid for the person's transportation, housing and meals to whatever location the debate was supposed to be held at. Further, the debate judge would have to make arrangements with his or her employer and family in order to travel to wherever you wanted the debate held. In short, the debate you've proposed before would realistically never occur for many reasons, with some of the most important problems with the idea involving logistics, finances and trust. A debate judge, for example, would need to know with 100% certainty that, after going to a lot of trouble and expense to attend the debate, which, of course, would not be a debate that simply occurs on a zoom call, but actually is a debate where the two debaters and the three judges are all in the same room, that one of the debaters won't pull out at the last minute for whatever reason (such as illness or getting cold feet). Your new proposal--to have a civil discussion with Spencer--is totally feasible and could be done online. So, stick with that approach and scrap the debate idea.
I could cry. A brilliantly worded e-mail and no response. I wonder how these people sleep at night or look themselves in the mirror. WHO (and that might even be the W.H.O.) is paying them to be so OBTUSE. "Professor" Spencer even looks mean and unhappy. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK STEVE.