The new Ioannidis paper claiming millions of lives saved is built on garbage inputs. Ioannidis refuses to look at the record-level data that shows he's wrong.
He wants to get back into the club. He did that study that found covid really wasn't the cause of death for (a majority?) of claimed victims, so, the Palo Alto dinner circuit won't have him.
I had to look at the Czech Republic data myself. I put it in a more visual form--basically it agrees with Kirsch's conclusion. It would still be good to know why John Ioannidis discounts it, because he's usually a very reliable guy. He was the one who took a lot of flak for analyzing California data at the very beginning of COVID that showed the public announcements of death from the virus was being extremely exaggerated, you may recall.
NEW STUDY - COVID-19 Vaccine “Millions of Lives Saved” Claim Debunked by Real-World Data
Statistical analysis dismantles Dr. Peter Hotez’s claim that COVID-19 vaccines saved millions, exposing a contradiction with real-world mortality data.
Guess Ioannidis has not read the leaked Robert Koch Institute files or the numerous statistical studies by Fenton, Chaillot, Rancourt and others, all incontrovertible proof of the global scam that was the Plandemic. Maybe he was a backup planted Pied piper from the get go, allowing for a "forgive and forget" climbdown granting impunity to the perpetrators? Sadly, it seems more than likely now.
WELL STEVE THE ABOVE IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE. TO EXPOSE THE LIE ONE HAS TO UNDERSTAND IT WAS NEVER A VACCINE OR EVER WAS. INSTEAD IT WAS A VERY TOXIC JAB WITH VERY SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS. WHEN IT IS FINALY EXPOSED THAT IT NEVER WAS A VACCINE BUT JUST A JAB. THAT IT ONLY HAD SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH IT. BIG PHARMA WILL NEVER REALEASE WHAT ITS CONTENTS ARE AS THEY WOULD BE FINNISHED AND SUED FOR VAST SUMS. THA JAB COULD NEVER EVER OBTAIN A LICENCE BECAUSE ONLY ONE THIRD REMAINED IN THE ARM MUSCLE. BIG PHARMA ARE NOW ON THE DEFENSIF AND ARE WALKING ON VERY THIN ICE AND ABOUT TO GO UNDER.IT...
Yes, I trust you far more than Ioannidis who has now lost all respect I had for him at the beginning of the plandemic. Maybe I should just feel sad for him, but instead we keep supporting heroes like you Steve and others who continue to pursue truth.
In March 2020, Ioannidis was attacked / shamed for his 3/17/20 Stat News article: "A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data". In April 2020, Jeffrey Flier, M.D. and Vinay Prasad, M.D. came to his defense: “Scientists who express different views on Covid-19 should be heard, not demonized."
What a quaint concept of how science is or was supposedly conducted. We all know how that turned out: any doctor or scientist who expressed differing opinions regarding the "pandemic" was attacked, demonized and effectively cancelled. The "practice" of medicine quickly morphed into One Size Fits All. Lockdowns and no early treatment until experimental mRNA technology could be deployed - the "vaccine" that conveniently appeared just in time to save humanity - meant You Will Obey or You Will Be Punished. All Must Be Injected.
Ioannidis was accused of a financial conflict of interest and of being a Trump supporter with a right-wing political agenda. July 24, 2020 BuzzFeed wrote: "An Elite Group Of Scientists Tried To Warn Trump Against Lockdowns In March. John Ioannidis’s controversial studies claim that the coronavirus isn’t that big a threat. Before the Stanford scientist did any of them, he wanted to take that message to the White House."
Wikipedia today: "Ioannidis was a prominent opponent of lockdowns during the COVID-19 pandemic, and he has been accused of promoting conspiracy theories about COVID-19 policies and public health and safety measures."
Gee, an esteemed, well-respected Stanford scientist, just trying to do the right thing and look what they did to him. Like so many, perhaps John has learned his lesson and thus has fallen in line. Pharma rules the world.
Anybody know how to edit 'Wickedpedia'? If so, correct the sentence to "Ioannidis was a prominent opponent of lockdowns during the COVID-19 pandemic, and a large part of the public now recognizes the societal, education, and financial burdens that lockdowns, instead of normal immunity development, cost the world and the West in particular. Lockdowns, it is now recognized, devastate civilized society rather than promoting health."
“COVID-19 vaccinations had a substantial benefit on global mortality during 2020-2024, but this benefit was mostly limited to a minority of the population of older individuals.”
The fact the vaccine had little effect on the young is not “buried” in this paper: the above quote is in the second paragraph of it.
I’d be curious why Ioannidis won’t look at the Czech data. He usually has a good reason for what he does. Anyway, I’m looking at the Czech data, thanks for sharing it. I would caution your conclusion that the all-cause mortality being higher with the vaccinated vs. the vaccinated means the vaccine caused more deaths. In such cases, there’s always secondary factors at play, such as the demographics of the cohort in question. Nonetheless, I like what you’re trying to do.
Of course this paper is the only technique they can use. If they used real science the results to be published would be very different. MY question: Why was this study not done in USA? This is the technique they are used to, publish a bunch of garbage that looks good and doctors and AMA will revere it.
Unfortunately, so many “highly educated “people will not question this because it’s published in JAMA. Promoting safety, efficacy and tolerability from prior publications is not creative science?..
Look at Table 2 in the paper - they are counting 454,272 lives saved in people who were previously infected! How many previously infected people died when contracting Covid a second time? Even people who believe the vaccine has benefits should have a hard time swallowing this one.
I have saved my own life over the last more than 50 years by avoiding all vaccines and mRNA poisons and severely limiting using any drugs, even OTC. I have no control over anyone else and I'll be damned if I am going to surrender my health to the modern stone age medical mafia.
He wants to get back into the club. He did that study that found covid really wasn't the cause of death for (a majority?) of claimed victims, so, the Palo Alto dinner circuit won't have him.
I had to look at the Czech Republic data myself. I put it in a more visual form--basically it agrees with Kirsch's conclusion. It would still be good to know why John Ioannidis discounts it, because he's usually a very reliable guy. He was the one who took a lot of flak for analyzing California data at the very beginning of COVID that showed the public announcements of death from the virus was being extremely exaggerated, you may recall.
https://leetd.substack.com/p/czech-database-visuals
OT, new slogan for my fellow dissident conservatives:
"Covid-vax, Cover-up, G.O.P.--Keep Your Silence, and You Lose Me!" https://dissidentcon.substack.com/p/covid-vax-cover-up-gop
The time for ultimatums and support-boycotts is coming upon us. The Party is betraying us and its basic principles.
Waiting Trump to "look at vaccine deaths" is as good as waiting for the wolf to report the missing chickens.
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-covid-19-vaccine-millions
NEW STUDY - COVID-19 Vaccine “Millions of Lives Saved” Claim Debunked by Real-World Data
Statistical analysis dismantles Dr. Peter Hotez’s claim that COVID-19 vaccines saved millions, exposing a contradiction with real-world mortality data.
Nicolas Hulscher, MPH
March 13, 2025
excess deaths
https://www.mortality.watch/explorer/?c=AUS&c=SGP&c=DNK&c=NOR&t=cmr&ct=yearly&e=1&cs=line&df=2009&ss=2000&bf=2009&bt=2019&sb=1&bm=lin_reg&ce=0&m=0&pi=0&sl=0&p=0
Guess Ioannidis has not read the leaked Robert Koch Institute files or the numerous statistical studies by Fenton, Chaillot, Rancourt and others, all incontrovertible proof of the global scam that was the Plandemic. Maybe he was a backup planted Pied piper from the get go, allowing for a "forgive and forget" climbdown granting impunity to the perpetrators? Sadly, it seems more than likely now.
WELL STEVE THE ABOVE IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE. TO EXPOSE THE LIE ONE HAS TO UNDERSTAND IT WAS NEVER A VACCINE OR EVER WAS. INSTEAD IT WAS A VERY TOXIC JAB WITH VERY SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS. WHEN IT IS FINALY EXPOSED THAT IT NEVER WAS A VACCINE BUT JUST A JAB. THAT IT ONLY HAD SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH IT. BIG PHARMA WILL NEVER REALEASE WHAT ITS CONTENTS ARE AS THEY WOULD BE FINNISHED AND SUED FOR VAST SUMS. THA JAB COULD NEVER EVER OBTAIN A LICENCE BECAUSE ONLY ONE THIRD REMAINED IN THE ARM MUSCLE. BIG PHARMA ARE NOW ON THE DEFENSIF AND ARE WALKING ON VERY THIN ICE AND ABOUT TO GO UNDER.IT...
Yes, I trust you far more than Ioannidis who has now lost all respect I had for him at the beginning of the plandemic. Maybe I should just feel sad for him, but instead we keep supporting heroes like you Steve and others who continue to pursue truth.
In March 2020, Ioannidis was attacked / shamed for his 3/17/20 Stat News article: "A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data". In April 2020, Jeffrey Flier, M.D. and Vinay Prasad, M.D. came to his defense: “Scientists who express different views on Covid-19 should be heard, not demonized."
What a quaint concept of how science is or was supposedly conducted. We all know how that turned out: any doctor or scientist who expressed differing opinions regarding the "pandemic" was attacked, demonized and effectively cancelled. The "practice" of medicine quickly morphed into One Size Fits All. Lockdowns and no early treatment until experimental mRNA technology could be deployed - the "vaccine" that conveniently appeared just in time to save humanity - meant You Will Obey or You Will Be Punished. All Must Be Injected.
Ioannidis was accused of a financial conflict of interest and of being a Trump supporter with a right-wing political agenda. July 24, 2020 BuzzFeed wrote: "An Elite Group Of Scientists Tried To Warn Trump Against Lockdowns In March. John Ioannidis’s controversial studies claim that the coronavirus isn’t that big a threat. Before the Stanford scientist did any of them, he wanted to take that message to the White House."
Wikipedia today: "Ioannidis was a prominent opponent of lockdowns during the COVID-19 pandemic, and he has been accused of promoting conspiracy theories about COVID-19 policies and public health and safety measures."
Gee, an esteemed, well-respected Stanford scientist, just trying to do the right thing and look what they did to him. Like so many, perhaps John has learned his lesson and thus has fallen in line. Pharma rules the world.
Anybody know how to edit 'Wickedpedia'? If so, correct the sentence to "Ioannidis was a prominent opponent of lockdowns during the COVID-19 pandemic, and a large part of the public now recognizes the societal, education, and financial burdens that lockdowns, instead of normal immunity development, cost the world and the West in particular. Lockdowns, it is now recognized, devastate civilized society rather than promoting health."
“COVID-19 vaccinations had a substantial benefit on global mortality during 2020-2024, but this benefit was mostly limited to a minority of the population of older individuals.”
The fact the vaccine had little effect on the young is not “buried” in this paper: the above quote is in the second paragraph of it.
I’d be curious why Ioannidis won’t look at the Czech data. He usually has a good reason for what he does. Anyway, I’m looking at the Czech data, thanks for sharing it. I would caution your conclusion that the all-cause mortality being higher with the vaccinated vs. the vaccinated means the vaccine caused more deaths. In such cases, there’s always secondary factors at play, such as the demographics of the cohort in question. Nonetheless, I like what you’re trying to do.
How mighty are the fallen. Chomsky, so many academics and now the golden boy of meta research. Hinc illae lacrimae
Of course this paper is the only technique they can use. If they used real science the results to be published would be very different. MY question: Why was this study not done in USA? This is the technique they are used to, publish a bunch of garbage that looks good and doctors and AMA will revere it.
Turtles All the Way Down fits all the Plandemic and Covid 19 narratives perfectly.
Well done Steve, what a great reaction to a pile of b/s.....
Unfortunately, so many “highly educated “people will not question this because it’s published in JAMA. Promoting safety, efficacy and tolerability from prior publications is not creative science?..
Look at Table 2 in the paper - they are counting 454,272 lives saved in people who were previously infected! How many previously infected people died when contracting Covid a second time? Even people who believe the vaccine has benefits should have a hard time swallowing this one.
I have saved my own life over the last more than 50 years by avoiding all vaccines and mRNA poisons and severely limiting using any drugs, even OTC. I have no control over anyone else and I'll be damned if I am going to surrender my health to the modern stone age medical mafia.
Another typical kill jab PSYOP! Watch that hypocrite RFK…he’s one of them