Critical Questions for Dr. Shiva About His Attempts to Splinter the Health Freedom Movement
By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
¨For many months I have remained silent in the face of defamatory and dishonest attacks against me by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. My approach was to ignore the sniping to preserve the unity of the Health Freedom Movement. However, Shiva has expanded his malevolent campaign to include venomous salvos against our community’s most prominent and effective leaders, including Del Bigtree, Mark Blaxill, Dr. Rashid Buttar, Polly Tommey and Samoan-Australian activist Taylor Winterstein. Because he now has some of our outstanding spokesmen in his gun-sites, and because his poisonous volleys have begun to damage the solidarity that is critical to our success, I reluctantly make this response.¨
It's pretty simple. Virus doesn't exist, spike proteins don't exist. Robert Kennedy Jr. knows the truth, but isn't willing to expose it. Dr. Shiva is, so your either going to expose the truth or be part of the darkness. We are in a spiritual battle, choose your side.
You are playing with words to confuse people. You put Dr Shiva and the truth in the same sentence and ask to choose the truth or darkness. Well, I am in the side of the truth but not on Dr. Shiva's side, he is darkness. He is very bright. We master well words but he is a demon.
240 Freedom of Information Requests by Christine Massey reveal NO ISOLATED VIRUS has ever been taken directly from any person. Virus doesn't exist - to get a virus, virologists have to combine DNA,RNA,cell sludge, kidney cells, nephrotoxic antibiotics, horse or cow serum and protein enzymes to magically come up with a virus. Virus proof is kinda like finding half-eaten cookies, presents, and reindeer tracks on Christmas day to prove santa exists. I used to love RKJr., but now it seems he's fine with "safe vaccines". Well....there's no such thing. They're all toxins in the depopulation agenda.
In my view RFK's overwhelming support of and Pro- Israel bias, and it's outrageous 75 yrs of "murder, theft & deception" make him a TOTAL DISCARD. No honest man can be this shamelessly dishonest or stupid could they? .....so, is he yet another grovelling puppet of the BLOB or what?
"A Must-Watch: Sohail Ahmed is a former Muslim extremist who from a young age supported Hamas, hated the West and even dreamed up a terror attack in London. Ollie speaks to Sohail about his journey from extremism to deradicalisation, as well as Sohail's insights on the current Israel-Hamas war."
We need to ride that horse as far as it takes us, then jump off. I was actually surprised to find out how much I also agreed with Jill Stein on Israel, Ukraine, and empire.
I am EXTREMELY disheartened by his stance on Israel/Palestine, completely incongruous to his positions on the Deep State, Globalism, technocracy, etc. I don't care if they all do it. And I don't care for his globalist inspired PsyOp Climate Change hysteria, either. I understand, tho, for I used to think AGW was a real thing.
But none of that is relevant to calling out Shiva on his history of dishonest personal attacks on Kennedy and now Kirsch, as well as others in the Medical Freedom Movement. In fact, Shiva seems increasingly like the controlled opposition he likes to accuse everyone else of being.
Well to be fair, Shiva attacks pretty much everyone who is part of the 'elites', he attacks gates, etc. Kennedy still wants to work with big pharma to make 'safe' vaccines.
Really!!??? I know nothing of the guy except for this article, and from the way he has behaved on Steve's data analysis, he sounds like a pro-death vax. WEF/Schwab/Gates-lover to me. Perhaps his "Gates -attacks" that you mention are false flags
You should watch one or 2 of his video's in full before making your mind up... He started the #FireFauci campaign (and got nearly 120,000 signatures) before anyone else, in late March 2020, look that up. Showed that petition, to Trump in April 2020, Trump did nothing with it. Trump ignored the people.
Anti-Zionism = anti-colonialism = anti- fascism = pro-religious freedom = pro-free speech = prohumanism does not = antisemitism. Semite refers to tribal groups that migrated out of the Arabian peninsula into the area of Palestine - Lebanon - SW Syria - Sinai and includes the various (12 biblical) Judean tribes, Samarians, Palestinians etc. Many Palestinians are descendants of Jews who converted to Islam in the face of the invasion of Islamic armies in the 7th to 9th centuries. Many current Israeli citizens are not descendants of biblical Jews but are descendants of SE European Khzarian converts to Judaism when the Khzarian king converted to Judaism in the 8th century AD (Khzarian empire existed from the 8th century till the 13th century and its history and origin are a bit muddled due to the lack of any significant written records). To be anti-Palestinian is therefore to be pro-European colonialism and also anti-semitic. Netanyahu is a Khzarian Jew and is an anti-semite. He mandated the CoVid-19 gene therapy jab on Israeli citizens and thereby has killed an estimated 27,000 to 32,000 Israeli citizens (mostly non-Khzarian Jews) given the various estimates that the jabs kill approximate 1 to 1.2 people per 1000 jabs). Given his 2013 recorded video statement that the solution to Israel's Palestinian/Gaza/Hamas problem was to drive the Gazan Palestinians into tent cities in the northern Sinai where they could resettle and rebuild and his more recent statement that Israelis were "children of the light" and Palestinians were "children of the darkness" and that the current Israeli-Gaza war was a war between forces of the light and forces of darkness, my interpretation is that Netanyahu and the ruling Zionist/Khzarian caste are a racists and proponents of both ethnic cleansing and apartheid. In the case of the Israeli - Palestinian conflict he is essentially using the control the Zionist lobby has over the US Congress and Deep State to support Israeli-Zionist piecemeal expansion plans (the Nile to the Euphrates Zionist goal enounced as early as the 1893 Zionist Congress). T
The European colonialism connection in Israel's founding is clearly evident in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 which was written by Lord Rothchild, the leader of the Jewish community of Great Britain (see Wikipedia on the Balfour Declaration). At the time of the Declaration, Palestine was a province of the Ottoman Empire with perhaps a combined Jewish-Christian population of 10%. As a consequence of the WWI treaty, Palestine and Iraq became British protectorates and Syria and Lebanon became French protectorates. Without British control of the area of Palestine, Israel would not exist. Further, as is characteristic of the British (and all colonial masters) , they promised both Jews (in Europe) and Palestinian Arabs who fought the Ottoman Empire in the Egyptian Expeditionary Force independence from the Ottoman Empire (Turkey). Israel also originated as a terrorist state and its first prime minister was David Ben-Gurion, a European Zionist emigrant and a leader of a pre-Israel Zionist terrorist group from the mid-1930's until Israel was established. In 1948 Israeli/Jewish military forces rounded up somewhere between 700,000 and 1,100,000 Palestinian Arabs, often taken from their homes at gunpoint, and bussed to Arab designated or controlled area which now comprise the West Bank, southern Lebanon, and Gaza. So now, Israel controls via occupation both the West Bank and Gaza where there are 5.1 million Palestinian Arabs who are "occupied" and have no control over there own "territory", have no legitimate representation, and are second or third class citizens in their own homeland. If I recall correctly, there was a revolution started in what became the United States, based on those very principles. In addition, Israel's actions in Gaza also represent a resource grab for both water (West Bank) and oil and gas resources in the Gaza sector of the eastern Mediterranean. As one Israeli military member once pointed out to me, Israel's right to exist, exists by right of military conquest and that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is no different than America's treatment of Native Americans., ie. Indian Reservations = Apartheid - at least until Native Americans were coerced into integrating into American society by sheer overwhelming numbers (my wife is part Native American). Integrating Palestinians into a "Greater Israel" however is impossible from the viewpoint of Zionism as there are 5.1 million Palestinians (and more in southern Lebanon and spread around the world) and given the high birthrates in Gaza and the West Bank, their fear is that Palestinian Arabs would rapidly outnumber Jews, making Israel no longer the Jewish military-political state that is the Zionist objective (and Lord Rothchild's Zionist vision and that of the Zionists of his time).
Oh, and If you think this is the viewpoint of a neo-libtard commofascist, pro WEF progressive medical tyranny-supporting Demoncrat, I am anti-WEF, anti-coercive medical pharma-military-pharma-industrial complex, and pro-freedom and freedom of speech (all speech), anti-war anti-militant Islam, and anti-depopulations agenda of the WEF and WHO. And I will never ever vote for Biden, might vote for RJK Jr., and voted for Trump twice. I also consider the prevailing Climate Change narrative as both anti-science, because all of the climate change models violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics, and has a depopulation agenda. Consequently, the whole Climate Change narrative is a preposterous Mass Formation Psychosis delusion. Just ask an adherent to explain the origin of the Little Ice Age (1100-1850 AD and the Medieval, Roman. and Grecian Warm Periods. If they can't relate them to solar variability as indicated by the beryllium 10 isotope patterns, ozone depletion of the stratosphere, or orbital variations, they are anti-science delusional fraudsters. And that includes the whole of IPCC. See Dr. Peter Langdon Ward's website whyclimateschanges.com for details.
PS. Over the history of the earth the atmosphere's CO2 content has varied from over 7000 ppm to 150 ppm and is currently at the low end of the range at 419 ppm. The CO2 infrared absorption band is so narrow and water vapor's absorption band is so wide that attributing any significant
climate effects to CO2 is borderline nutzoid and serves only a political agenda.
PPS: Gaza is the prototype WEF "15 minute city". Confinement = rebellion means the globalist can call the 15 minute city rebels extremists. exile them to internment/concentration/extermination camps and execute them them with 1000 lb bombs. Never comply with tyrrants!!!
I just scanned your long narrative, and I can see the recurrent theme of taking apart the literal meaning of semite to negate the meaning of antisemitism pretty much pegs where you're coming from, and the anti-colonialism rhetoric clinches it. I don't need anymore. It's like Creationists distort what they perceive as science and use pseudoscience science to tried to prove a fantasy.
PS I read a bit more of your post. I agree some of the Palestinian Arabs do share genes with Jews from that area. As far as Ashkenazi Jews being Khzarian, that was one or speculation but the more recent research has shown that any population that may have converted did not propagate outside the area--this is been determined by genetic testing of modern Ashkenazi Jews. The Ashkenazi desert arose when about 1000 years ago, single male Jews left the Middle East and emigrated to Europe, taking European wives. That's what accounts for so many blue-eyed Jews, some with red hair, etc. After that singular expansion, European Jews closed ranks and did not mary outside of their community in the next thousand years.
It is interesting to me that you relate the migration of Jewish males as a consequence of the development of the Ashkenazi Desert. That makes sense to me as it is consistent with the somewhat earlier desertification of North Africa which prior to 4000 BC had a savanna type climate similar to modern day southern Kenya and Tanzania and gradually desertified between 4000 and 1000 BC (fossil skeletons of Nile crocodiles have been found in swales between sand dunes of the Sahara as far east as Mauritania). The gradual desertification of North Africa resulted in the confinement of Egyptian civilization to the Nile and dependence of its agriculture on its flooding cycles Failure of the Nile floods for extended periods often resulted in civil wars which correlate with dynasty cycles as was detailed in PBS Nova special. It is also interesting that the desertification of North Africa also correlates with the development of the Amazon rain forests (fertilized by wind blown dust from North Africa). These historical desertification climatic events all suggest that the current "Climate Change" narrative is a globalist cabal anti-science generated delusional "Mass Formation" psychosis foisted on the gullible public who don't realize that the whole house of cards violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. I'm sure violating the Second Law would be great fun and immensely profitable, but the universe's very structure, God designed or not, makes that impossible. If anything, God died laughing at the ludicrous promotion of the idea. However, its no joke as the coming inferential AI capable robots that will only be trained on the "accepted " narrative that "Climate Change" is human-caused and will consequently infer that the solution is the elimination of humans. In that case humanity's last ditch survival will require a global EMP response to disable all AI robots but it will send humanity back to the Stone Age or the early Iron Age for another try at being human.
Thank you for your detailed considered analysis of my position and putting my arguments in your mind's pigeonholes. So it appears that your real objection to my analysis is that it is an attempt to take the power away for your favorite pejorative, which is some version of "antisemitism". Please note that the Bolsheviks used that pejorative extensively to paint their opponents in the Bolshevik's communist takeover of Russia in the closing days of WWI. Today it get applied to all opposition or criticisms of Israeli actions and policies no matter how abhorrent and only serves to paint one's critics in tribal terms. So, yes, that is, in part, a minor objective as its use today is intended to blunt criticisms of Israel by envoking Western "guilt" over claimed complicity in the Holocaust. As such, the use of "antisemitism" allegations true intent is to obscure or excuse that many current Israeli actions an policies that mirror the horrors the the Nazi's heaped on the Jews in the Holocaust (the abused is justified in its abuse of less powerful others ie. the Palestinians). And so the cycle of violence is perpetuated culturally as it often is on an individual level.
My view is that we are all descendants of the colonized and the colonizers, victims and victimizers, the enslaved and slave masters - get use to it. Jericho = genocide. Gaza = the Jewish Warsaw ghetto of 1942-43. Genocide has a long tradition and in any tribal conflict the winner's god approved of each and every such act. I don't have to do so. I am sure that Hitler did not distinguish between Khzarian Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, and the different tribes of Judea as my analysis did. I find historical perspectives always interesting though I don't consider myself an expert on such historical perspectives, particularly in this case. It is also interesting from an historical perspective that Hitler's version of anti-semitic fascism borrowed more than a little bit from the Zionist interpretation of themselves as God's "chosen people" and the 1890-1950's eugenic movement in the United States and Great Britain which primarily focused on the disabled, the mentally ill, and African-Americans in the USA and "African colonies" in Britain. After all Hitler started with the disabled and mentally ill or "defectives" (as Vera Sharaz details) before targeting political opponents and finally the Jews and Gypsies. American eugenics also gave rise to Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood abortion clinics. Elitism is not an exclusive club. It is the means by which those who perceive themselves the "ruling class" or "annointed powers" denigrate others as a means to maintain themselves in their "exalted position". Its older than history. It applies to Zionism, Nazi's "germanic ideal", Brahmins and the caste system in India, the Han ethic elitists of the CCP, the Deep State USA (North Atlantic Forum and Foreign Relations Council - must have graduated from the correct school and the appropriate class and corporate pedigree), the global cabal of the WEF or the Iroquois vs the Huronian Native American Indian tribes of the Eastern Great Lakes Region, and too many others to mention and those forgotten. Nothing now makes the globalist cabal happier than seeing ethic and religious' conflict in the Middle East turn violent as it maintains their power. It also serves their depopulation agenda and obscures their financial crimes. Netanyahu (as a WEF member) and Hamas are both servants of the WEF. Israeli Massod created and initially funded Hamas in the 1980's as an opponent to the PLO and as a foil for future use in conflict creation. It is easy to do as humans are culturally inherently and probably genetically tribal (us vs the other minority). Just look at how the CoVid-19 vaxxed reviled and denigrated those who didn't bow a knee to the gene therapy jab vaccine narrative and who correctly called it a bioweapon. Examples are rife and include genocidal statements by Peter Hoetz of the Sabin Institute. the Texas Medical Board's treatment of Dr Peter McCullough, or New York governor Kathy Hochul's recent executive order (preparation for the next pandemic and expansion of government tyranny), the Ontario Medical Board's treatment of Dr. Byram Bridle., and many other examples.
You're seeing antisemitism where it isn't. For years the Winn/Gallup poll found the US to be the greatest threat to world peace. We were disliked, even hated, the world over. Maybe we are still. Does this mean they hate us for our religion? No, they hate us for what we do to people - Viet Nam, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. Always at war, plundering for profit, stealing resources and land. More likable countries abide by international law, don't force native people from their land, their homes, don't discriminate according to religion or ethnicity, don't keep children in military detention for years with no charges and no trial (that's "No Way to Treat a Child" - ask Congresswoman, Betty McCullum, MN). Oh, and don't lock up people in a concentration camp and expect them to accept it. They'll do almost anything to get out. Wouldn't you?
Such rationalization can't hide the fact of the basic antisemitism. You ignore the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, and how the Palestinians have come to be in the position they are in by their own actions. Repeatedly.
Wait... You're accusing Palestinians of being anti-Semetic? It is as if you have no idea that Palestinian Christians, Muslims, and Jews lived in harmonious integration for centuries... In direct contradiction to the Zionist narrative that said this could never be done.
Avalanche - So true!! If you're in poli'ticks' then you must bow down and serve your masters. And, to Billy, they've been murdering people for thousands of years, according to their psychopathic Bible.
Dr. Shiva cut off the second part of his speech, which was.... but I'm against unsafe, and ineffective vaccines. This is a typical example of deceptive practices that has malicious intent.
He posted a link to the full thing. I've seen the whole thing, how do you make safe vaccines when they don't work without adjuvants? Kennedy isn't a scientist, he's a lawyer.
... If they don't work without adjuvants=poisons to produce an extreme reaction in the body, then instead of lying about the safety of their product, they should disclose "the real" safety data. In other words, allow people to make a decision based on real risk vs. real benefit ratio. But that would take a lot of money out of the their pocket, wouldn't it?
I am 58 years old, my husband is 74, we grew up in Eastern Europe and have not received any vaccination ever including childhood vaccinations. We rarely get colds (none of us ever had the flu), and we don't take any pharmaceutical drugs, while everybody else is constantly sick with cold or in the last three years with covid around us including our three grown children.
I cook from scratch and buy mostly organic food, make my own fermented sour kraut and Kombucha tea at home, do not eat out unless a rare special occasion, and I make sure to spend at least an hour a day outdoors waling or working in my garden. I did get covid from a vaccinated realtor who visited my house in the spring of 2021. I had fever for four days, and my husband (who came down with it after me), it was only one day of mild fever.
I got fevers often as a child during the early spring months, but quickly recovered without any medications. My mother did not even use fever reducing drugs like Tylenol, instead she wrapped wet towel around my chest to reduce the fever if it was too high. I had to stay in bed (which was the most annoying as I remember back) until my fever lasted and had to drink supersized glasses of tea with lemon and honey all day long.
I had contracted only two childhood illnesses - chicken pox (when I was 6) and Mums (when I was 13), even though there were Rubeola and Measles around me. Interestingly, only one child got Rubeola (who was my best friend) in the entire village (!) and nobody else. Many got chicken pox in my cohort, but there was a good size of minority who did not even get it.
My village had about 400 -500 children under the age of 14 at the time.
We all understood that not everyone was equally at risk of contracting a contagious disease and boosting the immune system was always the best solution to either avoid getting sick, or a strong, healthy immune system was needed, in case we did get sick, to get over the illness fast and without any complications. As a matter of fact, many elderly (like my grandma) believed that it was beneficial for the children to get exposed to all viruses and bacteria (and literally get dirty playing outside) in order to train their immune system. But, of course at that time, we all ate organic food, spent a lot of time outside playing in the fresh air and roaming around the village regardless of the season. The adults in my village had no chronic diseases and lived into their 90's except the few well known alcoholics who died early.
I was shocked to my core to see how different the approach was to health here in the US when I arrived in 1987. I have three grown children and they received all the immunization shots recommended, even though I was doubting the need for it in my head. What happened that we need so many shots? The voice said it my head each time I took my children for the well visits, but pushed away my motherly instinct and common sense, because I blindly trusted the system.
I noticed that there was a dramatic increase in the number of shots between my first and third child, who are 10 years apart. At that point I knew that my children received too many poison shots, but I went along, because I did not know that I could get an exemption for them.
My oldest, my daughter who is 28 years old now, came down with meningitis after one of her immunization shots when she was 10 years old. Of course, the pediatrician could not answer where it came from. It was the most scary experience in my life. After that, I "woke up" and started searching for information about these childhood vaccines and learned the shocking truth. I still feel ashamed of myself for being ignorant and not looking after the well being of my children even though I sensed that it was not right. However, at least I give myself a break, because my knowledge prevented them from getting the Gardasil, and yearly flu shots and of course the covid shots. My sons were 18 and 21 at the time the covid shot was forced on the nation.
or RFK's speech in Sacramento in July 2020, BEFORE the covid injections massacre?? Where he warned about the CIA tactics involving FEAR!!! Can't find the link right now, but there was that whistle-blowing nurse from NY reporting about intentional hospital killings in face of 'covid' wave (she wrote a book about it), there was Judy Mikovits reporting about Faucis past crimes, etc...
The entire event was telling ENOUGH in order NOT TO TAKE any 'offered injection' against something what starts with LIES and once again, FEAR...
What part isn't true? "I have always been fiercely pro-vaccine ... and I believe we should have policies to encourage full vaccination of all Americans" I don't need to say more than that, you can't take that out of context. Someone is either trying to play both sides or full of BS. Do your own research and make up your mind as to which one it is, because those are the only 2 possibilities.
This canard has been traveling the circuit for the past 3 years.
What Kennedy goes on to say as that video continues is that he believes in SAFE vaccines, which he is well aware do not exist.
Come on, Shiva, Kennedy has been fighting pharma/vaccine corruption for years.
I don't agree with everything Kennedy espouses but after watching every interview he did for over 3 years, I know he is passionate about pharma corruption.
Oh goodie! Empty Substack Vee. Thanks for outing yourself. You guys really aren't very bright. Pharma Cartel doesn't seem to be hiring the top of the line. I guess money isn't everything.
Nope. I'm gonna comment every single time I see someone with a fake substack. its kinda curious how fake-substack commenters always don't like Steve. Probably just a "coincidence", right?
Aaaaand here come the ad hominem attacks. I wasn't aware that someone with an "empty substack" wasn't allowed to have an opinion. Thanks for filling me in. What does that say about you then?
Haha it says I can tell when someone is trying to have gravitas, but failing, by having an empty substack. Thanks for playing Vee! And for outing yourself too.
Haha. You already know yourself - who you are, and what you are up to. Now everyone else does too - thanks to your Empty Substack. They really don't hire the best-and-the-brightest, do they?
"Vee" asked: He's a parasite based on what information? Who exactly is he feeding off of?
I wrote the following in reply to "Vee" - for that question, above and below... I suspect it will be hidden on the page, below, because of site architecture, so I'm reposting it here, so you and others can see it.
'The high profiles of the people he's attacking.
Even when his critiques are valid - like his apt criticism of RFK Jr.'s fealty to the Genocidal Zionist-Apartheid Entity, and his Sheldon Adelson sponsored Chabad Cult member, the perennial rightwing race hustler Schmuley Boteach - he does it in a fashion designed to perhaps draw attention to himself, rather than the larger issues. Case in point - a direct quote from Dr. Shiva, "...RFK sucks Zionist Cock...". Even though arguably true...is THAT the way you would put it, if you were a serious candidate for President, actually hoping to win the office?"
Even when his critiques are valid - like his apt criticism of RFK Jr.'s fealty to the Genocidal Zionist-Apartheid Entity, and his Sheldon Adelson sponsored Chabad Cult member, and perennial rightwing race hustler Schmuley Boteach - he does it in a fashion designed to perhaps draw attention to himself, rather than the larger issues. Case in point - a direct quote from Dr. Shiva, "...RFK sucks Zionist Cock...". Even though arguably true...is THAT the way you put it, if you're a serious candidate for President?
Catch a few of his vids -- he is ABSOLUTELY filled with rage! I'm guessing, but him being a Brahmin and thus superior to everyone else, he's getting angry at being ignored!
All truth????? If he has bought into the bioweapon Vaxx nonsense? Being pro- genetic modification drugs that make one's body literally into a bioweapon factory is about as stupid and dangerous, and UNtruthful, as anyone could ever be!!! And that position (spreading Globalist depopulation‐shot propaganda) is about as B.S. as anyone could possibly get!!!!!
Got it. You have time to sling mud but not enough time to back up. RFK Jr is pro-lockdown, pro-climate change, and anti-gun. This is all verifiable information. RFK Jr. is not our savior and neither is Dr. Shiva. I would like to see an open conversation and dialogue between Dr. Shiva and Kirsch, especially since they are both MIT grads, inventors, and scientifically and mathematically minded individuals.
Yes. But WHY did Shiva NOT have Steve in this alleged "discussion" but just held himself out -- without any questioner(s) -- as being completely right? Steve has -- by my minimal statistics background -- more than adequately demonstrated HOW the incomplete data DOES provide entirely useful information to draw Steve's conclusions.
¨no injections plan?¨ RFK Jr is doing that for the last ten years. He did a lot of videos, has created the site Children Healths Defense, wrote books etc.
Regarding Israel, maybe he doesn't feel to receive a bullit in the head like his father and his uncle JFK. The Cabal behind Biden doesn't want to provide him government security. The DNC ignore him. AIPAC looks like a criminal organisation. They seem to own a lot of people.
I read a lot of extremely negative comments agaisnt RFK Jr regarding what you have mentionned, comments written by people who hide their identity. Very ¨brave¨ there are... not.
I must have expressed it wrongly, I know all RFK videos, myself posted a newest sub-stack summary including 2 of RFK extremely important speeches, BUT, after seeing this right now:
I think appreciating his anti-vaccines involvement is NOT ENOUGH. Btw. Today we should be talking about anti-genetic modifications, not even 'vaccines'! Something RFK doesn't do at all, not to mention Highwire. All these parties present part truths, which are NOT ENOUGH, we need 100% truths, in particular in terms of genetic modifications of 'gentiles'(!!) and killings of Palestinians, or any HUMAN for that matter.
Agree on any of the 'candidates' annihilation, totally unconstitutional.
OK... He is not Jesus. He does what he can. Other talks about gene modification like myself three years ago. Yes, three years ago I was saying that. Now a lot more people. We have to stay united and stop backstabbing others. We are a small minority doing what we can to gring the truth. Divide and conquer is the startegy of the cabal so let's try to avoid that and stay united.
Regarding post-vaxx mortality charts, such as the one in this post and the several in the MIT presentation, why is the 'baseline' not set at zero on the y-axis, where the (steeper) upslope of deaths starts and where the pre-vaxx death rate presumably sat?
There is without doubt holes in the whistleblower data.
Holes that can lead to false conclusions, that are skewed by the demographic of the records obtained - meaning it can never be represented strive at population level
I believe the vaccines are killing people and are a driver in excess deaths
Fior NZ I’d estimate that to be around 5,000 vaccine-caused deaths. Liz Gunn / Barry Young are claiming 36,000 excess deaths. That simply isn’t possible, given mortality rates in NZ only have around -10k excess deaths in last 3 years.
It’s not 36,000. But it’s also not the 4 that NZ Government claim have been killed.
We need ALL the data. Fully transparent - and then the picture will be complete
There is without doubt holes in the whistleblower data.
Holes that can lead to false conclusions, that are skewed by the demographic of the records obtained - meaning it can never be represented strive at population level
I believe the vaccines are killing people and are a driver in excess deaths
Fior NZ I’d estimate that to be around 5,000 vaccine-caused deaths. Liz Gunn / Barry Young are claiming 36,000 excess deaths. That simply isn’t possible, given mortality rates in NZ only have around -10k excess deaths in last 3 years.
It’s not 36,000. But it’s also not the 4 that NZ Government claim have been killed.
We need ALL the data. Fully transparent - and then the picture will be complete
There is without doubt holes in the whistleblower data.
Holes that can lead to false conclusions, that are skewed by the demographic of the records obtained - meaning it can never be represented strive at population level
I believe the vaccines are killing people and are a driver in excess deaths
Fior NZ I’d estimate that to be around 5,000 vaccine-caused deaths. Liz Gunn / Barry Young are claiming 36,000 excess deaths. That simply isn’t possible, given mortality rates in NZ only have around -10k excess deaths in last 3 years.
It’s not 36,000. But it’s also not the 4 that NZ Government claim have been killed.
We need ALL the data. Fully transparent - and then the picture will be complete
I sensed a highly arrogant, condescending tone and complete LACK of Empathy in Dr Shiva from day one, thus I have never trusted him. This is just one more thing that reinforces that assessment.
Dr. Shiva claims he invented email, which means he created a program he named "email." He tried to take over the medical freedom movement, calling Bobby Kennedy a "loser." He then turned his attention to the 2020 election and tried to worm his way in there to prove fraud. I posted something about him several years ago when he was involving himself in the medical freedom movement. A friend of mine who went to MIT warned me about him. Yes, he's an MIT graduate but my friend told me he was not well thought of by the MIT community, to say the least. It's really time to give this loser the heave ho. He's not honest. His main achievement in life is to be the ex husband of Fran Drescher.
Apparently, the New Zealand deep staters who reacted like the Gestapo or the NKVD against the data leak and leaker, think the data is dangerous to them, as opposed to Dr. Shiva's analysis...
I think that the reason Dr. Shiva is so critical and resentful has to do with his caste. If you have ever lived in India you will understand how important that is and how maddening it must be for someone of his intellect to be condescended to all the time.
Kennedy is certainly a Brahmin in our setup. Perhaps that is why Dr S. dislikes him so thoroughly.
I agree with your rebuttals but there needs to be more explanation of how this data was gathered. What about the presumably "missing" lots, why is that data not available? I saw in an interview that demographics were also available with the data.
Problem is anybody could create this data table, or massage it by exclusion, Got to be careful this isnt a provocateur with the aim of discrediting dissenters?
The data looks frightening; to the point of incredulity. If I know 50 vaccinated people, I don't think 10 of them are dead. I have heard of 1 in a thousand deaths but these numbers are orders of mag bigger and hard to swallow. Thats why they need more background as to their validity.
I don't like Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai.
Critical Questions for Dr. Shiva About His Attempts to Splinter the Health Freedom Movement
By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
¨For many months I have remained silent in the face of defamatory and dishonest attacks against me by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. My approach was to ignore the sniping to preserve the unity of the Health Freedom Movement. However, Shiva has expanded his malevolent campaign to include venomous salvos against our community’s most prominent and effective leaders, including Del Bigtree, Mark Blaxill, Dr. Rashid Buttar, Polly Tommey and Samoan-Australian activist Taylor Winterstein. Because he now has some of our outstanding spokesmen in his gun-sites, and because his poisonous volleys have begun to damage the solidarity that is critical to our success, I reluctantly make this response.¨
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It's pretty simple. Virus doesn't exist, spike proteins don't exist. Robert Kennedy Jr. knows the truth, but isn't willing to expose it. Dr. Shiva is, so your either going to expose the truth or be part of the darkness. We are in a spiritual battle, choose your side.
You are playing with words to confuse people. You put Dr Shiva and the truth in the same sentence and ask to choose the truth or darkness. Well, I am in the side of the truth but not on Dr. Shiva's side, he is darkness. He is very bright. We master well words but he is a demon.
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¨Robert Kennedy Jr. knows the truth.¨ What truth?
240 Freedom of Information Requests by Christine Massey reveal NO ISOLATED VIRUS has ever been taken directly from any person. Virus doesn't exist - to get a virus, virologists have to combine DNA,RNA,cell sludge, kidney cells, nephrotoxic antibiotics, horse or cow serum and protein enzymes to magically come up with a virus. Virus proof is kinda like finding half-eaten cookies, presents, and reindeer tracks on Christmas day to prove santa exists. I used to love RKJr., but now it seems he's fine with "safe vaccines". Well....there's no such thing. They're all toxins in the depopulation agenda.
Lethal. Just lethal. RFK Jr hits it out of the park. A "smocking" gun. He had me at: "Shiva, the Vaccine Maker", but he just kept on going. Lethal.
In my view RFK's overwhelming support of and Pro- Israel bias, and it's outrageous 75 yrs of "murder, theft & deception" make him a TOTAL DISCARD. No honest man can be this shamelessly dishonest or stupid could they? .....so, is he yet another grovelling puppet of the BLOB or what?
RFK Jr has torpedoed his prospects for a successful run for POTUS. Disappointing. But better we know know than later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW2NS7jGR0s
"A Must-Watch: Sohail Ahmed is a former Muslim extremist who from a young age supported Hamas, hated the West and even dreamed up a terror attack in London. Ollie speaks to Sohail about his journey from extremism to deradicalisation, as well as Sohail's insights on the current Israel-Hamas war."
We need to ride that horse as far as it takes us, then jump off. I was actually surprised to find out how much I also agreed with Jill Stein on Israel, Ukraine, and empire.
Genghis Khan was right. Peace agreements are what prolong wars. No place more peaceful than a cemetery. Dead people don't fight.
Quite the puppet to be saying this in the discussion. Go away tool
I am EXTREMELY disheartened by his stance on Israel/Palestine, completely incongruous to his positions on the Deep State, Globalism, technocracy, etc. I don't care if they all do it. And I don't care for his globalist inspired PsyOp Climate Change hysteria, either. I understand, tho, for I used to think AGW was a real thing.
But none of that is relevant to calling out Shiva on his history of dishonest personal attacks on Kennedy and now Kirsch, as well as others in the Medical Freedom Movement. In fact, Shiva seems increasingly like the controlled opposition he likes to accuse everyone else of being.
Well to be fair, Shiva attacks pretty much everyone who is part of the 'elites', he attacks gates, etc. Kennedy still wants to work with big pharma to make 'safe' vaccines.
Really!!??? I know nothing of the guy except for this article, and from the way he has behaved on Steve's data analysis, he sounds like a pro-death vax. WEF/Schwab/Gates-lover to me. Perhaps his "Gates -attacks" that you mention are false flags
You should watch one or 2 of his video's in full before making your mind up... He started the #FireFauci campaign (and got nearly 120,000 signatures) before anyone else, in late March 2020, look that up. Showed that petition, to Trump in April 2020, Trump did nothing with it. Trump ignored the people.
Great comment Antoine
Find ANY American pol who is not a groveling servant to that shitty little country!
So the blatant antisemitism that in many cases was just under the surface has now crawled out from under its rock.
Anti-Zionism = anti-colonialism = anti- fascism = pro-religious freedom = pro-free speech = prohumanism does not = antisemitism. Semite refers to tribal groups that migrated out of the Arabian peninsula into the area of Palestine - Lebanon - SW Syria - Sinai and includes the various (12 biblical) Judean tribes, Samarians, Palestinians etc. Many Palestinians are descendants of Jews who converted to Islam in the face of the invasion of Islamic armies in the 7th to 9th centuries. Many current Israeli citizens are not descendants of biblical Jews but are descendants of SE European Khzarian converts to Judaism when the Khzarian king converted to Judaism in the 8th century AD (Khzarian empire existed from the 8th century till the 13th century and its history and origin are a bit muddled due to the lack of any significant written records). To be anti-Palestinian is therefore to be pro-European colonialism and also anti-semitic. Netanyahu is a Khzarian Jew and is an anti-semite. He mandated the CoVid-19 gene therapy jab on Israeli citizens and thereby has killed an estimated 27,000 to 32,000 Israeli citizens (mostly non-Khzarian Jews) given the various estimates that the jabs kill approximate 1 to 1.2 people per 1000 jabs). Given his 2013 recorded video statement that the solution to Israel's Palestinian/Gaza/Hamas problem was to drive the Gazan Palestinians into tent cities in the northern Sinai where they could resettle and rebuild and his more recent statement that Israelis were "children of the light" and Palestinians were "children of the darkness" and that the current Israeli-Gaza war was a war between forces of the light and forces of darkness, my interpretation is that Netanyahu and the ruling Zionist/Khzarian caste are a racists and proponents of both ethnic cleansing and apartheid. In the case of the Israeli - Palestinian conflict he is essentially using the control the Zionist lobby has over the US Congress and Deep State to support Israeli-Zionist piecemeal expansion plans (the Nile to the Euphrates Zionist goal enounced as early as the 1893 Zionist Congress). T
The European colonialism connection in Israel's founding is clearly evident in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 which was written by Lord Rothchild, the leader of the Jewish community of Great Britain (see Wikipedia on the Balfour Declaration). At the time of the Declaration, Palestine was a province of the Ottoman Empire with perhaps a combined Jewish-Christian population of 10%. As a consequence of the WWI treaty, Palestine and Iraq became British protectorates and Syria and Lebanon became French protectorates. Without British control of the area of Palestine, Israel would not exist. Further, as is characteristic of the British (and all colonial masters) , they promised both Jews (in Europe) and Palestinian Arabs who fought the Ottoman Empire in the Egyptian Expeditionary Force independence from the Ottoman Empire (Turkey). Israel also originated as a terrorist state and its first prime minister was David Ben-Gurion, a European Zionist emigrant and a leader of a pre-Israel Zionist terrorist group from the mid-1930's until Israel was established. In 1948 Israeli/Jewish military forces rounded up somewhere between 700,000 and 1,100,000 Palestinian Arabs, often taken from their homes at gunpoint, and bussed to Arab designated or controlled area which now comprise the West Bank, southern Lebanon, and Gaza. So now, Israel controls via occupation both the West Bank and Gaza where there are 5.1 million Palestinian Arabs who are "occupied" and have no control over there own "territory", have no legitimate representation, and are second or third class citizens in their own homeland. If I recall correctly, there was a revolution started in what became the United States, based on those very principles. In addition, Israel's actions in Gaza also represent a resource grab for both water (West Bank) and oil and gas resources in the Gaza sector of the eastern Mediterranean. As one Israeli military member once pointed out to me, Israel's right to exist, exists by right of military conquest and that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is no different than America's treatment of Native Americans., ie. Indian Reservations = Apartheid - at least until Native Americans were coerced into integrating into American society by sheer overwhelming numbers (my wife is part Native American). Integrating Palestinians into a "Greater Israel" however is impossible from the viewpoint of Zionism as there are 5.1 million Palestinians (and more in southern Lebanon and spread around the world) and given the high birthrates in Gaza and the West Bank, their fear is that Palestinian Arabs would rapidly outnumber Jews, making Israel no longer the Jewish military-political state that is the Zionist objective (and Lord Rothchild's Zionist vision and that of the Zionists of his time).
Oh, and If you think this is the viewpoint of a neo-libtard commofascist, pro WEF progressive medical tyranny-supporting Demoncrat, I am anti-WEF, anti-coercive medical pharma-military-pharma-industrial complex, and pro-freedom and freedom of speech (all speech), anti-war anti-militant Islam, and anti-depopulations agenda of the WEF and WHO. And I will never ever vote for Biden, might vote for RJK Jr., and voted for Trump twice. I also consider the prevailing Climate Change narrative as both anti-science, because all of the climate change models violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics, and has a depopulation agenda. Consequently, the whole Climate Change narrative is a preposterous Mass Formation Psychosis delusion. Just ask an adherent to explain the origin of the Little Ice Age (1100-1850 AD and the Medieval, Roman. and Grecian Warm Periods. If they can't relate them to solar variability as indicated by the beryllium 10 isotope patterns, ozone depletion of the stratosphere, or orbital variations, they are anti-science delusional fraudsters. And that includes the whole of IPCC. See Dr. Peter Langdon Ward's website whyclimateschanges.com for details.
PS. Over the history of the earth the atmosphere's CO2 content has varied from over 7000 ppm to 150 ppm and is currently at the low end of the range at 419 ppm. The CO2 infrared absorption band is so narrow and water vapor's absorption band is so wide that attributing any significant
climate effects to CO2 is borderline nutzoid and serves only a political agenda.
PPS: Gaza is the prototype WEF "15 minute city". Confinement = rebellion means the globalist can call the 15 minute city rebels extremists. exile them to internment/concentration/extermination camps and execute them them with 1000 lb bombs. Never comply with tyrrants!!!
WOW, I have learned so much from your writing. Thanks!
I just scanned your long narrative, and I can see the recurrent theme of taking apart the literal meaning of semite to negate the meaning of antisemitism pretty much pegs where you're coming from, and the anti-colonialism rhetoric clinches it. I don't need anymore. It's like Creationists distort what they perceive as science and use pseudoscience science to tried to prove a fantasy.
PS I read a bit more of your post. I agree some of the Palestinian Arabs do share genes with Jews from that area. As far as Ashkenazi Jews being Khzarian, that was one or speculation but the more recent research has shown that any population that may have converted did not propagate outside the area--this is been determined by genetic testing of modern Ashkenazi Jews. The Ashkenazi desert arose when about 1000 years ago, single male Jews left the Middle East and emigrated to Europe, taking European wives. That's what accounts for so many blue-eyed Jews, some with red hair, etc. After that singular expansion, European Jews closed ranks and did not mary outside of their community in the next thousand years.
It is interesting to me that you relate the migration of Jewish males as a consequence of the development of the Ashkenazi Desert. That makes sense to me as it is consistent with the somewhat earlier desertification of North Africa which prior to 4000 BC had a savanna type climate similar to modern day southern Kenya and Tanzania and gradually desertified between 4000 and 1000 BC (fossil skeletons of Nile crocodiles have been found in swales between sand dunes of the Sahara as far east as Mauritania). The gradual desertification of North Africa resulted in the confinement of Egyptian civilization to the Nile and dependence of its agriculture on its flooding cycles Failure of the Nile floods for extended periods often resulted in civil wars which correlate with dynasty cycles as was detailed in PBS Nova special. It is also interesting that the desertification of North Africa also correlates with the development of the Amazon rain forests (fertilized by wind blown dust from North Africa). These historical desertification climatic events all suggest that the current "Climate Change" narrative is a globalist cabal anti-science generated delusional "Mass Formation" psychosis foisted on the gullible public who don't realize that the whole house of cards violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. I'm sure violating the Second Law would be great fun and immensely profitable, but the universe's very structure, God designed or not, makes that impossible. If anything, God died laughing at the ludicrous promotion of the idea. However, its no joke as the coming inferential AI capable robots that will only be trained on the "accepted " narrative that "Climate Change" is human-caused and will consequently infer that the solution is the elimination of humans. In that case humanity's last ditch survival will require a global EMP response to disable all AI robots but it will send humanity back to the Stone Age or the early Iron Age for another try at being human.
Thank you for your detailed considered analysis of my position and putting my arguments in your mind's pigeonholes. So it appears that your real objection to my analysis is that it is an attempt to take the power away for your favorite pejorative, which is some version of "antisemitism". Please note that the Bolsheviks used that pejorative extensively to paint their opponents in the Bolshevik's communist takeover of Russia in the closing days of WWI. Today it get applied to all opposition or criticisms of Israeli actions and policies no matter how abhorrent and only serves to paint one's critics in tribal terms. So, yes, that is, in part, a minor objective as its use today is intended to blunt criticisms of Israel by envoking Western "guilt" over claimed complicity in the Holocaust. As such, the use of "antisemitism" allegations true intent is to obscure or excuse that many current Israeli actions an policies that mirror the horrors the the Nazi's heaped on the Jews in the Holocaust (the abused is justified in its abuse of less powerful others ie. the Palestinians). And so the cycle of violence is perpetuated culturally as it often is on an individual level.
My view is that we are all descendants of the colonized and the colonizers, victims and victimizers, the enslaved and slave masters - get use to it. Jericho = genocide. Gaza = the Jewish Warsaw ghetto of 1942-43. Genocide has a long tradition and in any tribal conflict the winner's god approved of each and every such act. I don't have to do so. I am sure that Hitler did not distinguish between Khzarian Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, and the different tribes of Judea as my analysis did. I find historical perspectives always interesting though I don't consider myself an expert on such historical perspectives, particularly in this case. It is also interesting from an historical perspective that Hitler's version of anti-semitic fascism borrowed more than a little bit from the Zionist interpretation of themselves as God's "chosen people" and the 1890-1950's eugenic movement in the United States and Great Britain which primarily focused on the disabled, the mentally ill, and African-Americans in the USA and "African colonies" in Britain. After all Hitler started with the disabled and mentally ill or "defectives" (as Vera Sharaz details) before targeting political opponents and finally the Jews and Gypsies. American eugenics also gave rise to Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood abortion clinics. Elitism is not an exclusive club. It is the means by which those who perceive themselves the "ruling class" or "annointed powers" denigrate others as a means to maintain themselves in their "exalted position". Its older than history. It applies to Zionism, Nazi's "germanic ideal", Brahmins and the caste system in India, the Han ethic elitists of the CCP, the Deep State USA (North Atlantic Forum and Foreign Relations Council - must have graduated from the correct school and the appropriate class and corporate pedigree), the global cabal of the WEF or the Iroquois vs the Huronian Native American Indian tribes of the Eastern Great Lakes Region, and too many others to mention and those forgotten. Nothing now makes the globalist cabal happier than seeing ethic and religious' conflict in the Middle East turn violent as it maintains their power. It also serves their depopulation agenda and obscures their financial crimes. Netanyahu (as a WEF member) and Hamas are both servants of the WEF. Israeli Massod created and initially funded Hamas in the 1980's as an opponent to the PLO and as a foil for future use in conflict creation. It is easy to do as humans are culturally inherently and probably genetically tribal (us vs the other minority). Just look at how the CoVid-19 vaxxed reviled and denigrated those who didn't bow a knee to the gene therapy jab vaccine narrative and who correctly called it a bioweapon. Examples are rife and include genocidal statements by Peter Hoetz of the Sabin Institute. the Texas Medical Board's treatment of Dr Peter McCullough, or New York governor Kathy Hochul's recent executive order (preparation for the next pandemic and expansion of government tyranny), the Ontario Medical Board's treatment of Dr. Byram Bridle., and many other examples.
You're seeing antisemitism where it isn't. For years the Winn/Gallup poll found the US to be the greatest threat to world peace. We were disliked, even hated, the world over. Maybe we are still. Does this mean they hate us for our religion? No, they hate us for what we do to people - Viet Nam, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. Always at war, plundering for profit, stealing resources and land. More likable countries abide by international law, don't force native people from their land, their homes, don't discriminate according to religion or ethnicity, don't keep children in military detention for years with no charges and no trial (that's "No Way to Treat a Child" - ask Congresswoman, Betty McCullum, MN). Oh, and don't lock up people in a concentration camp and expect them to accept it. They'll do almost anything to get out. Wouldn't you?
Such rationalization can't hide the fact of the basic antisemitism. You ignore the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, and how the Palestinians have come to be in the position they are in by their own actions. Repeatedly.
Wait... You're accusing Palestinians of being anti-Semetic? It is as if you have no idea that Palestinian Christians, Muslims, and Jews lived in harmonious integration for centuries... In direct contradiction to the Zionist narrative that said this could never be done.
And no other Arab or Muslim country will now take them in and lock their borders off against them. Why is that?
Avalanche - So true!! If you're in poli'ticks' then you must bow down and serve your masters. And, to Billy, they've been murdering people for thousands of years, according to their psychopathic Bible.
rebuttal www.rfkexposed.com watch the Kennedy video's.
From the horse's mouth
Freedom of information request on all of Dr.Shiva’s financial conflicts of interest… follow the money.
Which conflicts of interest did you have in mind? Or are you suggesting a fishing expedition to see what we can find?
What about Kennedy's speech were he said all Americans should be vaccinated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oisntdEljnM&ab_channel=Dr.SHIVAAyyadurai%2CMITPhD
posting edited clips is disingenuous, it's transparent and there's no way you don't already know this
Dr. Shiva cut off the second part of his speech, which was.... but I'm against unsafe, and ineffective vaccines. This is a typical example of deceptive practices that has malicious intent.
He posted a link to the full thing. I've seen the whole thing, how do you make safe vaccines when they don't work without adjuvants? Kennedy isn't a scientist, he's a lawyer.
... If they don't work without adjuvants=poisons to produce an extreme reaction in the body, then instead of lying about the safety of their product, they should disclose "the real" safety data. In other words, allow people to make a decision based on real risk vs. real benefit ratio. But that would take a lot of money out of the their pocket, wouldn't it?
I am 58 years old, my husband is 74, we grew up in Eastern Europe and have not received any vaccination ever including childhood vaccinations. We rarely get colds (none of us ever had the flu), and we don't take any pharmaceutical drugs, while everybody else is constantly sick with cold or in the last three years with covid around us including our three grown children.
I cook from scratch and buy mostly organic food, make my own fermented sour kraut and Kombucha tea at home, do not eat out unless a rare special occasion, and I make sure to spend at least an hour a day outdoors waling or working in my garden. I did get covid from a vaccinated realtor who visited my house in the spring of 2021. I had fever for four days, and my husband (who came down with it after me), it was only one day of mild fever.
I got fevers often as a child during the early spring months, but quickly recovered without any medications. My mother did not even use fever reducing drugs like Tylenol, instead she wrapped wet towel around my chest to reduce the fever if it was too high. I had to stay in bed (which was the most annoying as I remember back) until my fever lasted and had to drink supersized glasses of tea with lemon and honey all day long.
I had contracted only two childhood illnesses - chicken pox (when I was 6) and Mums (when I was 13), even though there were Rubeola and Measles around me. Interestingly, only one child got Rubeola (who was my best friend) in the entire village (!) and nobody else. Many got chicken pox in my cohort, but there was a good size of minority who did not even get it.
My village had about 400 -500 children under the age of 14 at the time.
We all understood that not everyone was equally at risk of contracting a contagious disease and boosting the immune system was always the best solution to either avoid getting sick, or a strong, healthy immune system was needed, in case we did get sick, to get over the illness fast and without any complications. As a matter of fact, many elderly (like my grandma) believed that it was beneficial for the children to get exposed to all viruses and bacteria (and literally get dirty playing outside) in order to train their immune system. But, of course at that time, we all ate organic food, spent a lot of time outside playing in the fresh air and roaming around the village regardless of the season. The adults in my village had no chronic diseases and lived into their 90's except the few well known alcoholics who died early.
I was shocked to my core to see how different the approach was to health here in the US when I arrived in 1987. I have three grown children and they received all the immunization shots recommended, even though I was doubting the need for it in my head. What happened that we need so many shots? The voice said it my head each time I took my children for the well visits, but pushed away my motherly instinct and common sense, because I blindly trusted the system.
I noticed that there was a dramatic increase in the number of shots between my first and third child, who are 10 years apart. At that point I knew that my children received too many poison shots, but I went along, because I did not know that I could get an exemption for them.
My oldest, my daughter who is 28 years old now, came down with meningitis after one of her immunization shots when she was 10 years old. Of course, the pediatrician could not answer where it came from. It was the most scary experience in my life. After that, I "woke up" and started searching for information about these childhood vaccines and learned the shocking truth. I still feel ashamed of myself for being ignorant and not looking after the well being of my children even though I sensed that it was not right. However, at least I give myself a break, because my knowledge prevented them from getting the Gardasil, and yearly flu shots and of course the covid shots. My sons were 18 and 21 at the time the covid shot was forced on the nation.
Robert F Kennedy Jr Shocking Vaccine Cover Up Part2 5:45 min. 14 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjPox5xBOLI
TRACE AMOUNTS Q&A with Robert F. Kennedy jr in Sacramento at the Crest on April 7, 2015 https://youtu.be/XxLjtLPNxP4?si=8S1cujMNvLxmBGGe
or RFK's speech in Sacramento in July 2020, BEFORE the covid injections massacre?? Where he warned about the CIA tactics involving FEAR!!! Can't find the link right now, but there was that whistle-blowing nurse from NY reporting about intentional hospital killings in face of 'covid' wave (she wrote a book about it), there was Judy Mikovits reporting about Faucis past crimes, etc...
The entire event was telling ENOUGH in order NOT TO TAKE any 'offered injection' against something what starts with LIES and once again, FEAR...
This is not true. Stop spreading false information. Do your own research.
What part isn't true? "I have always been fiercely pro-vaccine ... and I believe we should have policies to encourage full vaccination of all Americans" I don't need to say more than that, you can't take that out of context. Someone is either trying to play both sides or full of BS. Do your own research and make up your mind as to which one it is, because those are the only 2 possibilities.
This canard has been traveling the circuit for the past 3 years.
What Kennedy goes on to say as that video continues is that he believes in SAFE vaccines, which he is well aware do not exist.
Come on, Shiva, Kennedy has been fighting pharma/vaccine corruption for years.
I don't agree with everything Kennedy espouses but after watching every interview he did for over 3 years, I know he is passionate about pharma corruption.
But then he's been hounding on about the military industrial complex, but wants to blow Gaza off the map. There are inconsistencies in Kennedy too.
Shiva says not to follow anyone from above, but to trust our selves from below, the working people to work together, that's the key.
Spirited debate is essential for truth to be distilled. What Shiva participated in was obviously not a debate.
Like, as if Steve has never done an interview alone?
Have you not seen all the efforts Kirsch has made for someone to debate him? He offered substantial sums to encourage debate.
Exactly
Interesting you should conflate "interview" with "debate". Seems to me you're engaged in obfuscation rather than truth telling.
I get your point, withdrawn after considering this deeper. It would have been far fairer, yes.
Shiva's business revenues are pharma related. Follow the money.
So why won't RFK Jr debate Shiva then?
Oh goodie! Empty Substack Vee. Thanks for outing yourself. You guys really aren't very bright. Pharma Cartel doesn't seem to be hiring the top of the line. I guess money isn't everything.
Will you stop with the "empty substack" comments? It's annoying!
Nope. I'm gonna comment every single time I see someone with a fake substack. its kinda curious how fake-substack commenters always don't like Steve. Probably just a "coincidence", right?
Aaaaand here come the ad hominem attacks. I wasn't aware that someone with an "empty substack" wasn't allowed to have an opinion. Thanks for filling me in. What does that say about you then?
Haha it says I can tell when someone is trying to have gravitas, but failing, by having an empty substack. Thanks for playing Vee! And for outing yourself too.
Got it. Thanks for helping me find myself.
Haha. You already know yourself - who you are, and what you are up to. Now everyone else does too - thanks to your Empty Substack. They really don't hire the best-and-the-brightest, do they?
RFK is a hypocrite, he complains that no one will debate him, then won't debate Shiva, double standards!
Why lower himself to Shiva a negative shill?
He frequently calls him "Robert Fuc**ng Kennedy.
If I were Bobby Jr. I would not give him the time of day in another time zone on leap year at midnight.
Don't you think Kennedy is a hypocrite then? He constantly complained that no-one would debate him, now he won't debate Shiva....
I don't know. You have to ask him. After saying that, Shiva Ayyadurai is like a parasite. You don't discuss with parasites. It is a waste of time.
what Shiva does is worse than a work of a parasite...
"Vee" asked: He's a parasite based on what information? Who exactly is he feeding off of?
I wrote the following in reply to "Vee" - for that question, above and below... I suspect it will be hidden on the page, below, because of site architecture, so I'm reposting it here, so you and others can see it.
'The high profiles of the people he's attacking.
Even when his critiques are valid - like his apt criticism of RFK Jr.'s fealty to the Genocidal Zionist-Apartheid Entity, and his Sheldon Adelson sponsored Chabad Cult member, the perennial rightwing race hustler Schmuley Boteach - he does it in a fashion designed to perhaps draw attention to himself, rather than the larger issues. Case in point - a direct quote from Dr. Shiva, "...RFK sucks Zionist Cock...". Even though arguably true...is THAT the way you would put it, if you were a serious candidate for President, actually hoping to win the office?"
He's a parasite based on what information? Who exactly is he feeding off of?
Empty Substack Vee.
The high profiles of the people he's attacking.
Even when his critiques are valid - like his apt criticism of RFK Jr.'s fealty to the Genocidal Zionist-Apartheid Entity, and his Sheldon Adelson sponsored Chabad Cult member, and perennial rightwing race hustler Schmuley Boteach - he does it in a fashion designed to perhaps draw attention to himself, rather than the larger issues. Case in point - a direct quote from Dr. Shiva, "...RFK sucks Zionist Cock...". Even though arguably true...is THAT the way you put it, if you're a serious candidate for President?
hadn't heard that Shiva quote. Wow. Vulgar and full of rage.
Catch a few of his vids -- he is ABSOLUTELY filled with rage! I'm guessing, but him being a Brahmin and thus superior to everyone else, he's getting angry at being ignored!
Dr. Shiva is crass. Absolutely. But he's all truth and no bullshit.
Too bad your "substack" is empty.
If that were the case, why did Steve Kirsch write this piece?
Being crude does not make what a person says true.
All truth????? If he has bought into the bioweapon Vaxx nonsense? Being pro- genetic modification drugs that make one's body literally into a bioweapon factory is about as stupid and dangerous, and UNtruthful, as anyone could ever be!!! And that position (spreading Globalist depopulation‐shot propaganda) is about as B.S. as anyone could possibly get!!!!!
LOL! No , he’s no truth and all bullshit!
What information? Me. I don't have time to discuss with you Vee.
Good instinct. Vee has an empty substack. Guess what that means?
Got it. You have time to sling mud but not enough time to back up. RFK Jr is pro-lockdown, pro-climate change, and anti-gun. This is all verifiable information. RFK Jr. is not our savior and neither is Dr. Shiva. I would like to see an open conversation and dialogue between Dr. Shiva and Kirsch, especially since they are both MIT grads, inventors, and scientifically and mathematically minded individuals.
Poor Vee. He has an empty substack. All Hat, No Cattle.
Yes. But WHY did Shiva NOT have Steve in this alleged "discussion" but just held himself out -- without any questioner(s) -- as being completely right? Steve has -- by my minimal statistics background -- more than adequately demonstrated HOW the incomplete data DOES provide entirely useful information to draw Steve's conclusions.
Shiva is very dangerous. He is an agitator. Shiva Ayyadurai Gets Attacked By Warren Supporter 5:43min https://youtu.be/LBQEBPLziDg
Shiva the cosmic dancer, from CERN...
On the other hand, he addresses ZIONISM seems like the proper way. Strangely RFK does NOT do it, while bowing to Israel and allowing to kill..
That's where one should start thinking: is there ANYONE decent out there to lead those who want a human leader with empathy and no injections plan?
Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy Present Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Shocking Vaccine Cover Up: Apr 25, 2009
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=N-Af0ar7gE4
Part 2: Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy Present Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Shocking Vaccine Cover Up Apr 25, 2009
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=2ysbUM5jk54
RFK Jr. Launches Independent 2024 Run: Here Are All The Conspiracies He Promotes—From Vaccines To Mass Shootings
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=22c8dbc33cef
TRACE AMOUNTS Q&A with Robert F. Kennedy jr in Sacramento at the Crest on April 7, 2015
https://youtu.be/XxLjtLPNxP4?si=G5tadnzby9Qul2LM
¨no injections plan?¨ RFK Jr is doing that for the last ten years. He did a lot of videos, has created the site Children Healths Defense, wrote books etc.
Regarding Israel, maybe he doesn't feel to receive a bullit in the head like his father and his uncle JFK. The Cabal behind Biden doesn't want to provide him government security. The DNC ignore him. AIPAC looks like a criminal organisation. They seem to own a lot of people.
I read a lot of extremely negative comments agaisnt RFK Jr regarding what you have mentionned, comments written by people who hide their identity. Very ¨brave¨ there are... not.
I must have expressed it wrongly, I know all RFK videos, myself posted a newest sub-stack summary including 2 of RFK extremely important speeches, BUT, after seeing this right now:
https://www.brighteon.com/7cdb995a-5c37-4c45-816d-3bcc2148d91a
I think appreciating his anti-vaccines involvement is NOT ENOUGH. Btw. Today we should be talking about anti-genetic modifications, not even 'vaccines'! Something RFK doesn't do at all, not to mention Highwire. All these parties present part truths, which are NOT ENOUGH, we need 100% truths, in particular in terms of genetic modifications of 'gentiles'(!!) and killings of Palestinians, or any HUMAN for that matter.
Agree on any of the 'candidates' annihilation, totally unconstitutional.
OK... He is not Jesus. He does what he can. Other talks about gene modification like myself three years ago. Yes, three years ago I was saying that. Now a lot more people. We have to stay united and stop backstabbing others. We are a small minority doing what we can to gring the truth. Divide and conquer is the startegy of the cabal so let's try to avoid that and stay united.
all true.
Last word about Shiva, why is he not scared to get killed and is talking left and right about Zionists?
Found this, pretty good piece of historical evidence: https://www.mintpressnews.com/from-dallas-to-gaza-jfk-assassination-good-for-israel/286457/
My impression, after watching severaI of his videos over the past few years, is that he has a massive ego, and it runs the show.
Regarding post-vaxx mortality charts, such as the one in this post and the several in the MIT presentation, why is the 'baseline' not set at zero on the y-axis, where the (steeper) upslope of deaths starts and where the pre-vaxx death rate presumably sat?
There is without doubt holes in the whistleblower data.
Holes that can lead to false conclusions, that are skewed by the demographic of the records obtained - meaning it can never be represented strive at population level
I believe the vaccines are killing people and are a driver in excess deaths
Fior NZ I’d estimate that to be around 5,000 vaccine-caused deaths. Liz Gunn / Barry Young are claiming 36,000 excess deaths. That simply isn’t possible, given mortality rates in NZ only have around -10k excess deaths in last 3 years.
It’s not 36,000. But it’s also not the 4 that NZ Government claim have been killed.
We need ALL the data. Fully transparent - and then the picture will be complete
There is without doubt holes in the whistleblower data.
Holes that can lead to false conclusions, that are skewed by the demographic of the records obtained - meaning it can never be represented strive at population level
I believe the vaccines are killing people and are a driver in excess deaths
Fior NZ I’d estimate that to be around 5,000 vaccine-caused deaths. Liz Gunn / Barry Young are claiming 36,000 excess deaths. That simply isn’t possible, given mortality rates in NZ only have around -10k excess deaths in last 3 years.
It’s not 36,000. But it’s also not the 4 that NZ Government claim have been killed.
We need ALL the data. Fully transparent - and then the picture will be complete
There is without doubt holes in the whistleblower data.
Holes that can lead to false conclusions, that are skewed by the demographic of the records obtained - meaning it can never be represented strive at population level
I believe the vaccines are killing people and are a driver in excess deaths
Fior NZ I’d estimate that to be around 5,000 vaccine-caused deaths. Liz Gunn / Barry Young are claiming 36,000 excess deaths. That simply isn’t possible, given mortality rates in NZ only have around -10k excess deaths in last 3 years.
It’s not 36,000. But it’s also not the 4 that NZ Government claim have been killed.
We need ALL the data. Fully transparent - and then the picture will be complete
Reference the claim: "You need a control group. Without that, you can’t tell anything".
Really? So if 100 people across 8 states get violently ill after eating cantaloupes, we cannot tell anything from that without a control group?
I sensed a highly arrogant, condescending tone and complete LACK of Empathy in Dr Shiva from day one, thus I have never trusted him. This is just one more thing that reinforces that assessment.
Dr. Shiva claims he invented email, which means he created a program he named "email." He tried to take over the medical freedom movement, calling Bobby Kennedy a "loser." He then turned his attention to the 2020 election and tried to worm his way in there to prove fraud. I posted something about him several years ago when he was involving himself in the medical freedom movement. A friend of mine who went to MIT warned me about him. Yes, he's an MIT graduate but my friend told me he was not well thought of by the MIT community, to say the least. It's really time to give this loser the heave ho. He's not honest. His main achievement in life is to be the ex husband of Fran Drescher.
For a moment, I was worried that Steve was referring to Vandana Shiva. Thankfully not!
Apparently, the New Zealand deep staters who reacted like the Gestapo or the NKVD against the data leak and leaker, think the data is dangerous to them, as opposed to Dr. Shiva's analysis...
Steve, have you seen this recent development from VAERS Aware?
> P13 New Zealand Data-The MOH Brown Shirts Have Taken Down Dashboard!
-- https://welcometheeagle.substack.com/p/p13-new-zealand-data-the-moh-brown
Maybe there's an opportunity here to collaborate?
Please see this statistical analysis of US excess-deaths data by The Ethical Skeptic: https://theethicalskeptic.com/2023/12/11/the-state-of-things-pandemic-week-47-2023/
I am sorry that Kennedy tolerates the unpleasant criminals that now run Israel.
I think that the reason Dr. Shiva is so critical and resentful has to do with his caste. If you have ever lived in India you will understand how important that is and how maddening it must be for someone of his intellect to be condescended to all the time.
Kennedy is certainly a Brahmin in our setup. Perhaps that is why Dr S. dislikes him so thoroughly.
Sadly Dr Shiva, a person I used to really admire, has gone off the reservation. He never has a good thing to say about anyone and now this?
Incidentally, how does a whistleblower end up in prison for 7 years? What a corrupted world we live in. This must change.
I agree with your rebuttals but there needs to be more explanation of how this data was gathered. What about the presumably "missing" lots, why is that data not available? I saw in an interview that demographics were also available with the data.
Problem is anybody could create this data table, or massage it by exclusion, Got to be careful this isnt a provocateur with the aim of discrediting dissenters?
The data looks frightening; to the point of incredulity. If I know 50 vaccinated people, I don't think 10 of them are dead. I have heard of 1 in a thousand deaths but these numbers are orders of mag bigger and hard to swallow. Thats why they need more background as to their validity.