If you live in Israel or Palestine or know someone who does, I need your help to understand what is going on with respect to COVID deaths in the two countries.
The link I'm sharing is to an article from August 24 2021 which studied the post infection and post vaccination infection rates in Israel. It noted those "vaccinated" were 13 times more likely to get reinfected ("breakthrough infections" ) than those who had been infected without having been vaccinated (reinfections). There was 27.02 fold increase in symptomatic breakthrough infections in comparison to symptomatic reinfections. With regard to hospital admissions post infection or post vaccination, the vaccinated had 7 x the rate of hospital admission in comparison to the previously infected. You can pasted the following link into your browser to get to the article. https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415
These results alone could explain most of your second graph. However, Israel and Palestine have very different medical systems and poverty rates such that it is likely that some of the explanation may need to include underreporting in Palestine. Higher income and easier access to health care in Israel should explain some of the graph as that is certainly a confounding variable.
“Palestine” is likely the most highly monitored region of the world outside of Africa for health profiles of society as a result of the attention given it by the UN and WHO. I would be surprised if the data were incomplete causing a sampling error to create the antithesis you are suggesting.
Can you look at the initial New Zealand data? They locked down before C19 got to them, jabbed to 80%+ I think, opened up the boarders then …… they should have been fine but wasn’t. I recall that an epidemiologist was sacked for releasing data …….. what could the data possibly have said?
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COVID infections are fatal in a small percentage of cases. Therefore, more cases cause more deaths. COVID deaths in Palestine and Israel tracked together until the end of 2021. Then COVID deaths in Israel suddenly jumped above Palestine. It makes perfect sense that Palestinians had fewer COVID deaths than Israelis by avoiding the lethal injections.
We know for certain that the jabs cause more COVID infections from this study;
My brother in law took 6 jabs before his immune system was weak enough for COVID to kill him last summer. He trusted his doctor not his brother in law.
I would not rely on "covid" death data. It is based on the false PCR test which has zero clinical meaning. Instead - look at the all cause mortality. I bet Israel had increased rate following the aggressive injection campaign. I live in Israel and I can tell you that death rates increased mostly in correlation to lockdowns and injections.
I think it is fair to say that the decision by Israel’s PM to use Israel as a Pfizer test bed has contributed in more deaths of Israelis then any other event in the last 5 years.
"Also, the unvaccinated group when a population is highly vaccinated can have an absurdly high non-COVID all-cause mortality (like 3x higher) so that’s a factor as well."
You throw that out there at the end, but without explanation or data.
It doesn't make sense to me. I live in the US, not Israel, but the unvaccinated group here all seem to be doing just fine.
To a scientist/doctor a covid death should be one in which the causative organism was wholly responsible for the subsequent death. i.e it caused the events which led to the death.
Unfortunately because the lying swine wanted massive numbers of deaths and mayhem attributed to covid, virtually every death got labelled with covid in some way and this distorts things dreadfully.
So, are you assuming parity of 'lying' in medical professionals?
Mr. Kirsch:
The link I'm sharing is to an article from August 24 2021 which studied the post infection and post vaccination infection rates in Israel. It noted those "vaccinated" were 13 times more likely to get reinfected ("breakthrough infections" ) than those who had been infected without having been vaccinated (reinfections). There was 27.02 fold increase in symptomatic breakthrough infections in comparison to symptomatic reinfections. With regard to hospital admissions post infection or post vaccination, the vaccinated had 7 x the rate of hospital admission in comparison to the previously infected. You can pasted the following link into your browser to get to the article. https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415
These results alone could explain most of your second graph. However, Israel and Palestine have very different medical systems and poverty rates such that it is likely that some of the explanation may need to include underreporting in Palestine. Higher income and easier access to health care in Israel should explain some of the graph as that is certainly a confounding variable.
unfortunately, that just shows infection >> vaccination. It doesn't compare vaxxed to naieve.
“Palestine” is likely the most highly monitored region of the world outside of Africa for health profiles of society as a result of the attention given it by the UN and WHO. I would be surprised if the data were incomplete causing a sampling error to create the antithesis you are suggesting.
It should be like you say
Can you look at the initial New Zealand data? They locked down before C19 got to them, jabbed to 80%+ I think, opened up the boarders then …… they should have been fine but wasn’t. I recall that an epidemiologist was sacked for releasing data …….. what could the data possibly have said?
Looks to me like some Palestinian decided not to care about the data so they just kept hitting the same button.
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You don't understand comment moderation or how to avoid being banned? I believe you can understand it. Just show a modicum of restraint and you'll be fine.
COVID infections are fatal in a small percentage of cases. Therefore, more cases cause more deaths. COVID deaths in Palestine and Israel tracked together until the end of 2021. Then COVID deaths in Israel suddenly jumped above Palestine. It makes perfect sense that Palestinians had fewer COVID deaths than Israelis by avoiding the lethal injections.
We know for certain that the jabs cause more COVID infections from this study;
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v5.full Look at figure 2. Employees who avoided the jabs had the fewest COVID infections. Jabbed employees suffered increasing COVID infections with every additional jab.
My brother in law took 6 jabs before his immune system was weak enough for COVID to kill him last summer. He trusted his doctor not his brother in law.
What about the validity of sources of data ?
I would not rely on "covid" death data. It is based on the false PCR test which has zero clinical meaning. Instead - look at the all cause mortality. I bet Israel had increased rate following the aggressive injection campaign. I live in Israel and I can tell you that death rates increased mostly in correlation to lockdowns and injections.
Hard to conclude anything concrete from this. Weren't they too busy planning a huge terror attack to worry about getting accurate data for COVID?
It might be helpful to take a look at the information at howbadismybatch.com
I think it is fair to say that the decision by Israel’s PM to use Israel as a Pfizer test bed has contributed in more deaths of Israelis then any other event in the last 5 years.
Hi Steve. There’s a reporter from Israel named Ilana Rachel Daniel. She may be able to help. I watched some of her videos on the CHD website during the pandemic. Here is a link to one of her videos. https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/the-jerusalem-report-with-ilana-rachel-daniel/isreal-pfizer-deal-revealed/
"Also, the unvaccinated group when a population is highly vaccinated can have an absurdly high non-COVID all-cause mortality (like 3x higher) so that’s a factor as well."
You throw that out there at the end, but without explanation or data.
It doesn't make sense to me. I live in the US, not Israel, but the unvaccinated group here all seem to be doing just fine.
How much more proof do we need before everyone admits the "vax" was useless?
To a scientist/doctor a covid death should be one in which the causative organism was wholly responsible for the subsequent death. i.e it caused the events which led to the death.
Unfortunately because the lying swine wanted massive numbers of deaths and mayhem attributed to covid, virtually every death got labelled with covid in some way and this distorts things dreadfully.
So, are you assuming parity of 'lying' in medical professionals?