If the vaccine is so safe, why won't anyone in the world bet against me? Not even the drug companies will stand behind their product. You should be worried. Very worried.
Graphene and other nanotechnologies are TOXIC - how long will people keep injecting themselves with this poison for CBDC, Internet of Things and other technological nonsense?
I guess I don't understand the money betting thing and the judges, it seems like a dick swinging thing. But FYI, I charted quarterly deaths for countries and USA states if you are interested. "Young" age brackets only.
I put in my two cents on the Unz article: https://sukwan.substack.com/p/steve-kirsch-has-a-taker-on-his-new His numbers seem real cherry picked I run the global mortality data a lot and as my field of study in grad school was demographics I'm pretty good at interpreting it...
I really appreciate everything you're doing Steve, you've been an incredible ally, but please reconsider the bet approach of making your point; I feel it's backfired a little a couple of times and doesn't appear to be helping to advance the discussion.
It may be true that wagering a bet is seen as a gimmick but what are his other options? I think he has tried inviting public health experts to all sorts of forums that didn’t involve bets. There is virtually no way to have a conversation with anyone responsible for the roll out of these horrifying injections. I think the option of offering a bet is simply a last ditch effort to draw attention to the silence coming from public agencies and the medical community as a way to turn public attention against the injections and to stop the harm.
Do you know of any better avenues that aren’t currently being pursued? He’s usually pretty open to suggestions.
True. But it is also true that the corporate media, public health officials, and politicians have successfully painted *anyone* who does not agree with the current consensus as “eccentric” or extreme or _________ (fill in the blank with synonyms of insane). Lots of doctors, scientists, and other professionals have been trying to have discussion with public health officials and they are censored out of view, ignored, and/or are ridiculed/slandered. I can think of many such examples of mild mannered, professional men and women who are treated the same way as Kirsch.
When I consider the seriousness of what the debate is about and how much evidence there is to support withdrawing these dangerous products from being injected in people’s body, I think people like Kirsch are conducting themselves amazingly well. But that doesn’t change how blue-pilled people will view the situation so it’s definitely something to consider. It just may not be avoidable.
While I am open to Unz's hypothesis about obesity+COVID and think there may be some truth to it, I also see a few "holes" in it, and it certainly doesn't disprove that the mRNA vaccines are killing people. For one thing, Unz has limited his analysis to "working-age mortality", and the evidence suggests that this would miss most vaccine deaths. Why? Because contrary to popular belief, most evidence suggests that the majority of the people killed by the vaccine are actually OLDER people.
First of all, the excess vaccine deaths in the Pfizer and Moderna "gold standard" randomized clinical trials (the highest quality evidence that exists, period) were confined to the OLDER age groups. The younger age groups had no excess deaths in the trials (of course they exist, just much more rare than in older). In the older age groups, the two clinical trials combined had a total of 21 deaths in the vaccine groups versus 16 deaths in the placebo groups.
Among the older age group (>55) in the Pfizer clinical trial, there were 12 deaths in the vaccine group versus 10 deaths in the placebo group. Consistent trend but 20% increase here- if they divided at age 65 like Moderna maybe the increase would be larger, who knows. https://www.fda.gov/media/152256/download - see page 57, BOTTOM of Table 25
Finally, in VAERS, over 70% of unexpected post-vaccine deaths with known ages were in people aged >65 (and about 90% with known ages were in people over age 50). https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality
Anecdotally, all 3 people I know who died unexpectedly a few months after vaccination were in the 60-80 age range, and a fourth in his early 80s (healthy) almost died of a sudden cardiovascular event. NONE of them were obese or even overweight.
I know three people who died last year. They were all in the 65+ age range, with two "vaccinated" and one of them not vaccinated. The oldest of them, who was one of the two who were vaccinated, was also extremely fit for his age due to regular exercise. None of them were obese, although it appears the current hypothesis is that the younger people who are dying are more likely to be dealing with the obesity issue.
Definitely seems like the older demographic is being purposely targeted, though. I still don't understand why they are "encouraged" to get these injections when a lot of elderly people have weaker immune systems and ANY vaccines are among the LAST interventions they should be engaging in in order to stay healthy! God-given immune systems should be built up rather than repeatedly being torn down through injected toxins and such a huge unnatural jumpstart on the system, that often backfires on people in their elderly years.
Unz wrote: "I would welcome an opportunity to debate my analysis with Kirsch, Weinstein, or any other prominent anti-vaxxers."
This would certainly be Steve's most informative debate yet. It would be helpful for Steve to respond to Unz's obesity hypothesis for explaining excess deaths, and for Unz to respond to Steve's VAERS evidence.
Unz, by all appearances, is well informed, committed to the truth and acting in good faith. This is far the most legit offer to debate Steve that we've seen yet. Let's hope it happens.
Suddenly people got fat and started dying off at rates never seen before. And that this started happening with the release of the Tox Shot is just coincidence. Well, it's marginally better than climate change.
Unz claims that it is the virus itself that is causing excess deaths, especially among the obese, because the excess deaths began in 2020 before the mass vaccinations started in 2021. I think between him and Steve, we will see this sorted out. Why would Covid cause cardiac problems but not the vaccine? To the body's immune system, they are same. If myocarditis is caused by both (provable), then the mechanism is most likely the same, since myocarditis is not a common disease or side effect. Covid was always a respiratory virus, and the vaccine supposedly attacks nothing, so where do the cardiovascular issues come from? The argument that the Covid virus and not the Covid vaccine is the cause of the excess deaths is really a distinction without a difference. I would venture to say that the spike protein is the common denominator and culprit.
It's the heat, it's the humidy, it's stress, it's the cold. Where are their facts? All Fake news to cover the truth. The truth is the jab is the cause. I know 3 ppl who died.
Now that the covid vax caused cancers are ramping up the smoke resulting from that will cloud the true causes of death because naysayers will point to the proximal cause of death (cancer) not the vax, which actually caused the death through cancer☠️
Hire an experienced, successful, operational, trial lawyer. Give them considerable organizational power. They dont have to know much about the technical end, just understand how to organize a team to deliver a case.
It will free your technical people to concentrate on the questions. While the quarterback lawyer makes sure all the questions are asked and answered, and feed into the evolving case structure. So an early goal is getting the technical people to define the major elements of pro and con positions, sketch the bones of the case. It might be felt that this already exists, however you have 2 months more or less, and only 4.5 hours total to both make your case and refute theirs. Get the bones written down, folk can see and work on the detail.
Organization will be key. Our host should be posting less, that would be a good sign. And should pick his role carefully.
The forum is full of helpful suggestions. Sounds like someone not Kirsch needs to concentrate on using this resource and feeding into the case structure. I read the posts, there are a lot of very useful bits presented, but there is no case framework to organize them into. I know right? A lawyer? They have a lot of skills, you get the right one. Successful trial lawyer.
A thought is that the broad terms of the agreement allow latitude to perhaps deviate a little and bring in some elements of the broader case against the narrative. Eg we HAVE in fact been lied to about just everything. It can be part of a case to show a pattern of deception on xyz, so why not gov numbers too? 20 minutes only perhaps but what material! Sky's the limit. Visceral impact woven in.
I would be willing to take you up on your bet, if I had that kind of money. I was one of the first in line to get the Pfizer vaccine, due to the loss of precious lives when the first COVID wave happened. These were all immunocompromized &/or elderly people. It's horrific to watch the ones that barely survived the initial acute illness go downhill, then suffer & die slowly due to COVID, all due to a vaccine not being available.
Put yourself in a caregivers shoes, having to watch 20% (one in 5) of your residents die from COVID, when there's no vaccine or any way to help them be able to fight against COVID. Having to hear that a young ESRD patient die due to severe blood clotting.
I took the vaccine to not only protect myself, but also the residents, patients & family that I knew COVID would probably be fatal, if not immediately, then within several months.
Neither myself or my husband (Moderna vaccine) have had any lasting side effects. As with ANY vaccine, there is a small % that will have moderate or longer lasting side effects.
Instead of "betting" a million bucks, why don't you donate to the National Kidney Foundation for research on acute kidney injury due to COVID? Or research on the best treatment for the elderly if they contract COVID (Long Term Care residents)? I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is, rather than perpetuating misinformation yet again.
I await your response. I would rather not use my name, due to "trolls" out there.
He won't answer you. He doesn't respond to anyone who disagrees with him. I've only been on this site for a couple of weeks. I signed on because Steve posted that Damar Hamlin, the Buffalo Bills player who went into cardiac arrest on the field, would not recover and then speculated on his autopsy results. Steve blamed the vaccine. Damar proved him wrong by not only surviving, but recovering in fine style. Several people who are anti vax still posted that Steve should have apologized. I've never seen anyone so obsessed. He complains that nobody will take him up on his million dollar bet and they won't because he comes across as very self centered, among other things.
So you came on here because you hate Steve Kirsch? Well, somebody's obsessed.
Steve Kirsch wrote about about what was in the news - the news reported that Damar Hamlin was brain dead and he wrote about it like 1,000s of others. However, Kirsch was one of the first to report Hamlin was alive and moving around with a tip from an insider.
Hamlin is not the only person to collapse on a playing field - hundreds of people are collapsing on playing fields all over the world - or didn't you know that?
It was not ever reported that Damar was brain dead. Steve stated that he would not recover and discussed what the autopsy would reveal. He wasn't reporting what was in the news...he was reporting what he thought. He was trying to use Damar's collapse to push his anti vax agenda. I think I know a lot more about what happens on playing fields than you do...at least in the NFL. Condescending comments are a defensive reaction. I don't hate Steve. Where did you come up with that.
While I very much hope that I am wrong about this, the evidence that is known is not favorable.
The medical experts I consulted believe that there is a likelihood that Damar Hamlin was brain dead within 10 minutes after he dropped to the ground.
The primary reason for this conclusion is the 9 minutes of CPR. It is simply very rare for someone not to be brain dead at that point. Nobody I talked to has ever heard of such a case. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. It just means it is rare.
I pray that this is not the case, but I think we need to prepare for that possibility.
For example, there was no news from the hospital that his brain was still alive. This would have been uplifting news to the crowd of people waiting outside the hospital, but it was never delivered. There were no reports anywhere that Hamlin’s brain was still functioning.
Again, you don't seem to know that hundreds of sports players are collapsing around the world - not just in the NFL. A person who disagreed with the above but had no hate would come here, say that and leave, not obsessively stay here and make the comments you do. That's my opinion.
No one who is a collaborator wants to take the bet about vax safety, because they know they are going to have to spend every penny they have on legal defense.
I will save you some money. Lower the wager to $1,000.00.
After you lose, donate $500,000 to support an initiative to combat misinformation so more people don't fall into the same situation that you currently find yourself.
Did you see Ron Unz's article about this? He posits that there are no excess deaths subsequent to the vaccine in many highly vaccinated countries, and that obesity can account for the excess mortality in those vaccinated countries having it.
1) His position does not explain the athletes dropping dead. I assume the videos & reports are generally new / not rehash of something that's been happening for ages. I certainly never heard of it until 2021.
2) His position does not explain the weird clots that also appear to be a new phenomenon.
3) Same for the menstrual irregularities.
4) He gets his data here: https://mpidr.shinyapps.io/stmortality/ Corbett pointed out some time ago that mortality would seemingly be easy to measure but has its own problems.
5) I don't see how his position is consistent with the Indiana insurer saying that claims for working age persons went through the roof in 2021.
I think Steve’s offer to bet is looking like the last gambit on the table. The only other option to turn around the Queen Mary ship of scientific corruption appears to be to wait years for an iceberg to loom large, formed by many years years more of scientific proof of cause.
However, waiting for the radar of science to look for harm is far too when harm to lives and economies is on the line.
And the vast majority of people in the world seem content to wait for this resolution, unless they themselves or people close to them have opened their minds to a looming danger. Meanwhile the scientists on board this ship are debating this issue of risk versus benefit, each side arguing whose radar screen is more accurate. And the rest of the world on the ship is below deck, with neither radar screen nor view of the horizon to distract us from any potential risk.
Since the resolution from science is too slow, in spite of boastful claims of “the speed of science”, I see one possible way to warn the world passengers of the risks we face.
We need to get this debate in the open to the world, in spite of the efforts of those who would obfuscate and mislead, especially governments and corporate media. I cheered when Steve launched his public billboard idea. This needs to happen though in some fashion on a much, much grander scale. Sharper minds than mine might develop such a plan, but it appears that it needs to come from the grass roots and not get corrupted by co-option by the macro forces that will resist.
Typo: $1 should be $1M. Fixed.
Also, check out this idea: https://twitter.com/LisaNG_Hawaii01/status/1612709652176814080?s=20&t=dVAB9EJKai-BSs1wr_o6Dg I would CRUSH him.
For Saar Wilf to win:
Show the FULL list of ingredients for this INJECTION!!!
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/exact_quantity_of_water_for_inje Exact amount of Water for Injection before and after dilution in BNT162b2
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/801347/response/1912708/attach/3/description%20and%20composition%20redacted.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1
Graphene and other nanotechnologies are TOXIC - how long will people keep injecting themselves with this poison for CBDC, Internet of Things and other technological nonsense?
https://outraged.substack.com/p/internet-of-virus-things-and-qantum
https://outraged.substack.com/p/graphene-conspiracy
https://outraged.substack.com/p/is-it-a-virus-or-is-it-graphene-toxicity
Kitsch. I'll take your bet and your money. Come on. Stop being such a coward.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Truth_in_Number
I guess I don't understand the money betting thing and the judges, it seems like a dick swinging thing. But FYI, I charted quarterly deaths for countries and USA states if you are interested. "Young" age brackets only.
https://spud1984.substack.com/p/looking-for-excess-deaths-among-young
I put in my two cents on the Unz article: https://sukwan.substack.com/p/steve-kirsch-has-a-taker-on-his-new His numbers seem real cherry picked I run the global mortality data a lot and as my field of study in grad school was demographics I'm pretty good at interpreting it...
Nobody is interested in a million bucks of fiat paper money. Make the bet for a 1000 Krugerrands and see if Gates accepts.
Gates could just pick up his phone and buy 100,000 Krugerands with his fiat money, so why is that an incentive?
I really appreciate everything you're doing Steve, you've been an incredible ally, but please reconsider the bet approach of making your point; I feel it's backfired a little a couple of times and doesn't appear to be helping to advance the discussion.
It may be true that wagering a bet is seen as a gimmick but what are his other options? I think he has tried inviting public health experts to all sorts of forums that didn’t involve bets. There is virtually no way to have a conversation with anyone responsible for the roll out of these horrifying injections. I think the option of offering a bet is simply a last ditch effort to draw attention to the silence coming from public agencies and the medical community as a way to turn public attention against the injections and to stop the harm.
Do you know of any better avenues that aren’t currently being pursued? He’s usually pretty open to suggestions.
The other reason that there are no takers may be because he comes across as very eccentric.
True. But it is also true that the corporate media, public health officials, and politicians have successfully painted *anyone* who does not agree with the current consensus as “eccentric” or extreme or _________ (fill in the blank with synonyms of insane). Lots of doctors, scientists, and other professionals have been trying to have discussion with public health officials and they are censored out of view, ignored, and/or are ridiculed/slandered. I can think of many such examples of mild mannered, professional men and women who are treated the same way as Kirsch.
When I consider the seriousness of what the debate is about and how much evidence there is to support withdrawing these dangerous products from being injected in people’s body, I think people like Kirsch are conducting themselves amazingly well. But that doesn’t change how blue-pilled people will view the situation so it’s definitely something to consider. It just may not be avoidable.
Puhleeze. Our lives have always been measured in $$$. That’s the point.
:) hehe.
FYI I also made some charts inspired by Ron's data set.
https://spud1984.substack.com/p/looking-for-excess-deaths-among-young
While I am open to Unz's hypothesis about obesity+COVID and think there may be some truth to it, I also see a few "holes" in it, and it certainly doesn't disprove that the mRNA vaccines are killing people. For one thing, Unz has limited his analysis to "working-age mortality", and the evidence suggests that this would miss most vaccine deaths. Why? Because contrary to popular belief, most evidence suggests that the majority of the people killed by the vaccine are actually OLDER people.
First of all, the excess vaccine deaths in the Pfizer and Moderna "gold standard" randomized clinical trials (the highest quality evidence that exists, period) were confined to the OLDER age groups. The younger age groups had no excess deaths in the trials (of course they exist, just much more rare than in older). In the older age groups, the two clinical trials combined had a total of 21 deaths in the vaccine groups versus 16 deaths in the placebo groups.
Among the older age group (>65) in the Moderna clinical trial, there were 9 deaths in the vaccine group versus 6 deaths in the placebo group. Small numbers, but that's a 50% increase in deaths. https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2113017/suppl_file/nejmoa2113017_appendix.pdf - see page 53, Table S19
Among the older age group (>55) in the Pfizer clinical trial, there were 12 deaths in the vaccine group versus 10 deaths in the placebo group. Consistent trend but 20% increase here- if they divided at age 65 like Moderna maybe the increase would be larger, who knows. https://www.fda.gov/media/152256/download - see page 57, BOTTOM of Table 25
Finally, in VAERS, over 70% of unexpected post-vaccine deaths with known ages were in people aged >65 (and about 90% with known ages were in people over age 50). https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality
Anecdotally, all 3 people I know who died unexpectedly a few months after vaccination were in the 60-80 age range, and a fourth in his early 80s (healthy) almost died of a sudden cardiovascular event. NONE of them were obese or even overweight.
I know three people who died last year. They were all in the 65+ age range, with two "vaccinated" and one of them not vaccinated. The oldest of them, who was one of the two who were vaccinated, was also extremely fit for his age due to regular exercise. None of them were obese, although it appears the current hypothesis is that the younger people who are dying are more likely to be dealing with the obesity issue.
Definitely seems like the older demographic is being purposely targeted, though. I still don't understand why they are "encouraged" to get these injections when a lot of elderly people have weaker immune systems and ANY vaccines are among the LAST interventions they should be engaging in in order to stay healthy! God-given immune systems should be built up rather than repeatedly being torn down through injected toxins and such a huge unnatural jumpstart on the system, that often backfires on people in their elderly years.
Unz wrote: "I would welcome an opportunity to debate my analysis with Kirsch, Weinstein, or any other prominent anti-vaxxers."
This would certainly be Steve's most informative debate yet. It would be helpful for Steve to respond to Unz's obesity hypothesis for explaining excess deaths, and for Unz to respond to Steve's VAERS evidence.
Unz, by all appearances, is well informed, committed to the truth and acting in good faith. This is far the most legit offer to debate Steve that we've seen yet. Let's hope it happens.
Suddenly people got fat and started dying off at rates never seen before. And that this started happening with the release of the Tox Shot is just coincidence. Well, it's marginally better than climate change.
Unz claims that it is the virus itself that is causing excess deaths, especially among the obese, because the excess deaths began in 2020 before the mass vaccinations started in 2021. I think between him and Steve, we will see this sorted out. Why would Covid cause cardiac problems but not the vaccine? To the body's immune system, they are same. If myocarditis is caused by both (provable), then the mechanism is most likely the same, since myocarditis is not a common disease or side effect. Covid was always a respiratory virus, and the vaccine supposedly attacks nothing, so where do the cardiovascular issues come from? The argument that the Covid virus and not the Covid vaccine is the cause of the excess deaths is really a distinction without a difference. I would venture to say that the spike protein is the common denominator and culprit.
My favorite? "Long Covid".
You are all wrong... it has to be Melania’s fault.
It's the heat, it's the humidy, it's stress, it's the cold. Where are their facts? All Fake news to cover the truth. The truth is the jab is the cause. I know 3 ppl who died.
Now that the covid vax caused cancers are ramping up the smoke resulting from that will cloud the true causes of death because naysayers will point to the proximal cause of death (cancer) not the vax, which actually caused the death through cancer☠️
I've also heard "stress from covid."
My favorite bullshit reason is "global warming" second only to "cold showers"
that's all handwaving and it's wrong.
You mean weather?
What climate change?
Steve K, what is your response to Ron Unz's offer to debate him?
If you have replied, I apologize ahead of time.
Hire an experienced, successful, operational, trial lawyer. Give them considerable organizational power. They dont have to know much about the technical end, just understand how to organize a team to deliver a case.
It will free your technical people to concentrate on the questions. While the quarterback lawyer makes sure all the questions are asked and answered, and feed into the evolving case structure. So an early goal is getting the technical people to define the major elements of pro and con positions, sketch the bones of the case. It might be felt that this already exists, however you have 2 months more or less, and only 4.5 hours total to both make your case and refute theirs. Get the bones written down, folk can see and work on the detail.
Organization will be key. Our host should be posting less, that would be a good sign. And should pick his role carefully.
The forum is full of helpful suggestions. Sounds like someone not Kirsch needs to concentrate on using this resource and feeding into the case structure. I read the posts, there are a lot of very useful bits presented, but there is no case framework to organize them into. I know right? A lawyer? They have a lot of skills, you get the right one. Successful trial lawyer.
A thought is that the broad terms of the agreement allow latitude to perhaps deviate a little and bring in some elements of the broader case against the narrative. Eg we HAVE in fact been lied to about just everything. It can be part of a case to show a pattern of deception on xyz, so why not gov numbers too? 20 minutes only perhaps but what material! Sky's the limit. Visceral impact woven in.
I'll take that bet. Seriously. Stop ducking me. Don't be such a SNIVELING COWARD, Steve.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Truth_in_Number
"One man of courage makes a majority."
– Andrew Jackson
Courage is, "Grace under pressure."
– Ernest Hemingway
Hi Mr. Kirsch,
I would be willing to take you up on your bet, if I had that kind of money. I was one of the first in line to get the Pfizer vaccine, due to the loss of precious lives when the first COVID wave happened. These were all immunocompromized &/or elderly people. It's horrific to watch the ones that barely survived the initial acute illness go downhill, then suffer & die slowly due to COVID, all due to a vaccine not being available.
Put yourself in a caregivers shoes, having to watch 20% (one in 5) of your residents die from COVID, when there's no vaccine or any way to help them be able to fight against COVID. Having to hear that a young ESRD patient die due to severe blood clotting.
I took the vaccine to not only protect myself, but also the residents, patients & family that I knew COVID would probably be fatal, if not immediately, then within several months.
Neither myself or my husband (Moderna vaccine) have had any lasting side effects. As with ANY vaccine, there is a small % that will have moderate or longer lasting side effects.
Instead of "betting" a million bucks, why don't you donate to the National Kidney Foundation for research on acute kidney injury due to COVID? Or research on the best treatment for the elderly if they contract COVID (Long Term Care residents)? I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is, rather than perpetuating misinformation yet again.
I await your response. I would rather not use my name, due to "trolls" out there.
You don't know that the Kirsch Foundation funds medical research?
I do know that.
He won't answer you. He doesn't respond to anyone who disagrees with him. I've only been on this site for a couple of weeks. I signed on because Steve posted that Damar Hamlin, the Buffalo Bills player who went into cardiac arrest on the field, would not recover and then speculated on his autopsy results. Steve blamed the vaccine. Damar proved him wrong by not only surviving, but recovering in fine style. Several people who are anti vax still posted that Steve should have apologized. I've never seen anyone so obsessed. He complains that nobody will take him up on his million dollar bet and they won't because he comes across as very self centered, among other things.
So you came on here because you hate Steve Kirsch? Well, somebody's obsessed.
Steve Kirsch wrote about about what was in the news - the news reported that Damar Hamlin was brain dead and he wrote about it like 1,000s of others. However, Kirsch was one of the first to report Hamlin was alive and moving around with a tip from an insider.
Hamlin is not the only person to collapse on a playing field - hundreds of people are collapsing on playing fields all over the world - or didn't you know that?
It was not ever reported that Damar was brain dead. Steve stated that he would not recover and discussed what the autopsy would reveal. He wasn't reporting what was in the news...he was reporting what he thought. He was trying to use Damar's collapse to push his anti vax agenda. I think I know a lot more about what happens on playing fields than you do...at least in the NFL. Condescending comments are a defensive reaction. I don't hate Steve. Where did you come up with that.
Through lack of reporting: Here's what Steve Kirsch actually said:
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While I very much hope that I am wrong about this, the evidence that is known is not favorable.
The medical experts I consulted believe that there is a likelihood that Damar Hamlin was brain dead within 10 minutes after he dropped to the ground.
The primary reason for this conclusion is the 9 minutes of CPR. It is simply very rare for someone not to be brain dead at that point. Nobody I talked to has ever heard of such a case. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. It just means it is rare.
I pray that this is not the case, but I think we need to prepare for that possibility.
For example, there was no news from the hospital that his brain was still alive. This would have been uplifting news to the crowd of people waiting outside the hospital, but it was never delivered. There were no reports anywhere that Hamlin’s brain was still functioning.
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Again, you don't seem to know that hundreds of sports players are collapsing around the world - not just in the NFL. A person who disagreed with the above but had no hate would come here, say that and leave, not obsessively stay here and make the comments you do. That's my opinion.
No one who is a collaborator wants to take the bet about vax safety, because they know they are going to have to spend every penny they have on legal defense.
because BELiving means not knowing!
I will save you some money. Lower the wager to $1,000.00.
After you lose, donate $500,000 to support an initiative to combat misinformation so more people don't fall into the same situation that you currently find yourself.
Steve.... Accept the 500k.
That's not exactly chump change.
It's not about the dollar.... It's important to get the facts out!
Would be excellent 👌 publicity, worth way beyond a $1 million wager!!
This says she didn't have covid which all the pro-vax were hoping for in a ghoulish way since she was anti-vax.
https://www.businessinsider.com/diamond-collapsed-not-sick-death-mike-lindell-says-trump-2023-1
"If I win the bet, no mainstream media will cover my win."
Probably true in the short run, but you'll end up as a good guy in the history books, of that I have no doubt.
Did you see Ron Unz's article about this? He posits that there are no excess deaths subsequent to the vaccine in many highly vaccinated countries, and that obesity can account for the excess mortality in those vaccinated countries having it.
https://www.unz.com/runz/obesity-and-the-end-of-the-vaxxing-debate/
1) His position does not explain the athletes dropping dead. I assume the videos & reports are generally new / not rehash of something that's been happening for ages. I certainly never heard of it until 2021.
2) His position does not explain the weird clots that also appear to be a new phenomenon.
3) Same for the menstrual irregularities.
4) He gets his data here: https://mpidr.shinyapps.io/stmortality/ Corbett pointed out some time ago that mortality would seemingly be easy to measure but has its own problems.
5) I don't see how his position is consistent with the Indiana insurer saying that claims for working age persons went through the roof in 2021.
I think Steve’s offer to bet is looking like the last gambit on the table. The only other option to turn around the Queen Mary ship of scientific corruption appears to be to wait years for an iceberg to loom large, formed by many years years more of scientific proof of cause.
However, waiting for the radar of science to look for harm is far too when harm to lives and economies is on the line.
And the vast majority of people in the world seem content to wait for this resolution, unless they themselves or people close to them have opened their minds to a looming danger. Meanwhile the scientists on board this ship are debating this issue of risk versus benefit, each side arguing whose radar screen is more accurate. And the rest of the world on the ship is below deck, with neither radar screen nor view of the horizon to distract us from any potential risk.
Since the resolution from science is too slow, in spite of boastful claims of “the speed of science”, I see one possible way to warn the world passengers of the risks we face.
We need to get this debate in the open to the world, in spite of the efforts of those who would obfuscate and mislead, especially governments and corporate media. I cheered when Steve launched his public billboard idea. This needs to happen though in some fashion on a much, much grander scale. Sharper minds than mine might develop such a plan, but it appears that it needs to come from the grass roots and not get corrupted by co-option by the macro forces that will resist.
Steve.
Check out Denis Rancourt's post:
https://twitter.com/denisrancourt/status/1612844170980327425?s=19
Hunter Brown, an offensive lineman for Air Force, has died at 21.
The school announced that Brown suffered an unspecified “medical emergency”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/hunter-brown-air-force-offensive-lineman-dead-at-21/ar-AA16c9lF?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W046&cvid=d797760898d14121a74c03fe66f034c9